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Ask a Motoring Advisor: Answers

This first edition of Ask an MA has been a huge success! We had almost 50 questions withins days of the article being posted. If you didn't get your question in don't worry – we'll have another edition soon. Sorry to anyone who didn't get their questions answsered – not all questions were appropriate for a Motoring Advisor to address. That being said we may create a similar Q&A session with a more technical angle soon.

Here's our guest MA and the answers:

First off, let me say that I am surprised by the response to this feature! It's great to get feedback and questions from the community, and I'm happy to be able to help. Having said that, keep in mind as I answer what questions I can that I do not work for MINI, just my local dealer, so I am not privy to future products or developments. Occasionally we catch snippets by paying attention to our regional factory reps and at training sessions, but those instances are rare.

Here goes:

Question:
Greg –
I want to order a MCS Works manufactured after Jan 2005 (w/LSD) with a specific set of options. I would like delivery before the end of March 2005. I live in California. At what point should I go to a dealer and be placed on a waiting list to ensure I get an early 05 car? And what is the standard deposit required for a custom ordered MINI? Thanks.

Answer: Your best bet would be to contact a dealer now to see what their availability is like. All dealers have the ability to order cars in advance of their production allocation by placing them into an order bank in DCS (BMW/MINI's Dealer Communication System). This is what we do when we run out of the current month's production in advance of our next month's allocation being released. I checked today, and we can actually order cars for week 01/01/05 production. Now, the likelihood that a dealer would be willing to do that for you this far in advance is VERY low, but it wouldn't hurt to call around and ask.

Question:
James –
I noticed that the second line item on the 2005 Individual Specs sheet is “Euro Delivery Price Munich Pick Up”.

Does this mean that european delivery will be offered in 2005? And if so, what details can you share?

Thanks!

Answer: While I sincerely hope that eventually we will be able to offer our customers the option of European delivery, I suspect this was a misprint or a carry-over from a BMW Spec sheet cut-and-paste job. It seems unlikely that MINI would build a car in Oxford then ship it to Munich for overseas customers to pick up then ship back to the US.

For example: BMW does not offer European delivery of the X5 and Z4 lines, because they are built here in the US.

Question:
Pete –
hey, i have a 2004 jcw mini s, and i was wondering if i put a 15% supercharger pulley upgrade on it, will the jcw exhaust stand up to it, or will i need to change out the line?

Answer: This would be pretty much unnecessary. The uprated supercharger included in the JCW package already has a 13.8% smaller pulley than the stock supercharger.

Question:
NK –
Since there's only rumors going on:

What will the specs for the 05 MCS JohnCooperWorks Kits be, and when will they finally be available (Europe and US)?

Thanks

Answer: Unfortunately I'm as in the dark on this one as the rest of the community. I haven't heard of any shortfalls in availability, especially since there aren't any 2005 MCS in the US yet.

[See this article from a couple weeks ago for more information: 2005 JCW MCS to get HP Increase - Gabe]

Question:
JiminVirginia –
Does MINI plan any changes in windshield configuration (such as increasing thickness)?

Will the LSD in 2005 be a factory or a dealer installed option?

When would you guess a 2005 model will be available for a test drive? October-ish?

Answer: I don't know about planned windshield changes. It's possible that because of the convertible they will all get thicker windshields, but I don't know for sure even if the convertible will have a thicker windshield. I assume it will, though.

The LSD will be a factory option, for which pricing has not yet been announced. Expect pricing probably in December, at which point we'll be ordering “blind” for February production.

Demonstrator availability depends entirely on your local MINI Dealer. We rotate ours every 5000 miles. This can happen quickly in the case of the MCS and MC CVT, or take months and months as in the case of the MC 5-speed. I have already been told that my particular dealership will not get an '05 just to have one, but will ride it out with our current demonstrator until the miles are up.

Question:
Victoria –
Is there any easy, at-home fix for slight rattles in A-pillars, door insets, etc.? Everyplace I've got the silvertone dash trim, I seem to be developing noise that's dampened by pressing lightly against the trim. OR…is this covered by warranty? Thx!

Answer: I'm sure someone out there in the VERY industrious MINI enthusiast community has come up with a fix for these things, but I don't personally know of any. These items ARE covered under your warranty, typically for at least the first few months. Remember that part of the beauty of MINI is the firm ride, which gives you not only unbelievable handling, but also tends to shake things loose.

[Yes go get them fixed at your dealer, that's what your warranty is for - Gabe]

Question:
Bill –
Can a Harmon Kardon System be added at the dealership later? I really want to install that system now.

Answer: It probably could, but it would cost you WAY more than $550 to buy the parts and have the work done. Your best bet would be to visit an aftermarket shop and see what they can do for you. For around $1000, you can get an aftermarket system that puts the H/K to shame.

Question:
Scott –
Will installing a CAI cause me any hassle when i take my car in for service?

Answer: This depends entirely on your dealer. My gut response would be no, since basically all you're doing is replacing the factory airbox with something that breathes a little better. However, remember that dealers ALWAYS look with suspicion at people doing modifications. The general feeling is that if you're adding extra “go-fast” stuff, then you're going to be harder on the car and possibly causing things to break. In this case, a CAI is probably no more harmful than an aftermarket “high-flow” air filter like something from K&N.

Question:
Sean Bancroft –
I have an 02 MCS. I recently noticed what seems to be a defect in the rear bumper. Their is a horizontal outward crease about 6″ long. The crease is prortruding outward from the bumper as if the plastic buckled outward. It is pretty subtle, but obvious once pointed out. I had my indsurance adjuster examine the bumper. In looking at the bumper together, my adjuster showed me that it couldn't be the result of another car or object striking the bumper becasue their are none of the tell tale signs (i.e. scrathces, rubbed off paint, scars, etc…). It seems to me that if it is in no way attributable to any sort of accident, then it must be a defect. Have you heard of this before? Should this be a warranty item?

Answer: This could be a warranty item. Have your Service Advisor and technician check it out. If necessary, enlist the help of your insurance adjuster to show them how it's not the result of impact.

Question:
Ansel Olson –

At idle, there is a sound under the hood like a low whirring soft moan, it undulates a little. The sound goes away as the car starts driving. Is this normal or is it a struggling fan. Any idea?

The car is an 03 may MCS.

Answer: This is probably your power steering motor. It operates electrically while the car is running at low speeds to provide extra boost to the steering, then at higher speeds, a more direct hydraulic system takes over. The result effect is that you hear a sort of whine or moan from under the hood. If you're confident that this is not what's causing it, take it in to your dealer to have it looked at.

Question:
Peter –
Considering the slight changes to the '05 bumpers, will there be any changes to the '05 aero kit?

Answer: We'll find out when MINI aftersales puts out the new accessory catalog.

[Judging from these photos there may not be - Gabe]

Question:
David -
Simple question,

Do you know the average wait time for orders for an MCS?

I want to order an '05 MCS around the end of the year.

Answer: Simple, yet complex at the same time! This is one of my favorite questions, because the answer is never a good one.

Wait time varies from dealer to dealer, and there's no good way to figure out why the wait is so long, because each dealer handles their allocation differently.

My dealership, for example, tries to pre-sell every allocation we get. We don't want ANYTHING coming in to be inventory. This makes things more fair to the general public, because they get to pick and choose exactly what they want on the cars, instead of settling for whatever we order. I suspect that other dealers reserve a portion of their allocation to come in as inventory so that they can mark it up or add expensive accessories to the cars. We do not do this, so we have no reason not to order the cars on a first come first served basis. Most people would be shocked that there are people out there who get REALLY upset when you tell them that not only can't they buy our demos, but they also can't buy the cars in the showroom because they're already sold. I have been bribed and threatened (not physically, but with threats to take their business elsewhere) by people trying to get an earlier production slot or buy a demo.

So, in short, call your local dealer and ask them what their wait time is. If you're not satisfied with that, or if they offer to bump you up for an additional charge, decide how far away you're willing to go to get a car, then call all the dealers within that radius. The average time from start of production to delivery is 6-8 weeks. Anything more than that is pad for inventory or upcharged “line jumpers” on their part. Most dealers should be able to tell you to within 2-3 weeks when your car will go into production, then you can extrapolate delivery time from there.

Question:
Tony -
Will the JCW Kit ever be a factory option?

Seems silly to pay for parts that will never be used, are stripped out of your car and replaced with new ones.

Answer: Probably not. You're actually paying $5500 for those parts you get in the JCW kit. $1000 of that is a core charge, which is automatically refunded when you return the factory parts, making the total $4500. Installing this at the factory would take away some of the cachet of having a limited availability kit and true aftermarket tuner accessories.

Question:
Bob -
I will be purchasing the Cabrio in the U.S. in 1/2005.

  1. Do you have any idea about the automatic, 5 or 6 gear, what make.
  2. Will the U.S. be able to spec the automatic folding electric side rearview mirrors that is offered in the U.K.?

Answer: To the best of my knowledge, the Cooper Convertible will continue to get the CVT automatic. The MCS Convertible will get the new automatic being installed in the MCS hardtop, which I have no more information on other than that it will be a Steptronic and not SMG, but will have steering wheel mounted shifter paddles.

Folding electric side mirrors are not available for the US market yet, at least according to the current ordering guide.

Question:
Heather -
I am seriously considering purchasing a Mini, but with all the changes that are coming should i either try and get a 2004 or wait until 2006 to make sure all the bugs are worked out…?

Answer: Most of the changes for '05 (with the exception of the gearbox changes and LSD) are cosmetic. I don't think you have anything to worry about, especially considering the success MINI has had at basically building a new car from the ground up starting in 2002.

Question:
SB –
The JCW website shows the JCW Sport Seats as an option. My dealer has little information on these seats … although they do seem to have stock numbers. Can you shed any light on price and availability in the US? Is this a dealer added option or factory installed option?

Answer: These would be a dealer installed option, as are all other JCW parts. I do not know of availability of these seats in the US, but if you can get me a part number, I would be happy to look them up for pricing and availability.

This fall, John Cooper Works will be releasing a catalog of aftermarket parts which can be installed at the dealer and will be covered under your warranty if done at the dealership.

Question:
Jeff –
When will the Bluetooth hands free phone option be available for cars with the HK stereo system? Will it make use of the buttons on the steering wheel, or be a dash mount button?

Answer: Great question! When the Bluetooth hadsfree was announced, the plan was to release a separate part with the modifications needed to work with '03 H/K sound systems. If you have an '04, it will work just fine, there is just a brief period during '03 when the two are not compatible.

It does not use the steering wheel buttons, but rather has a controller which mounts next to the stereo on the right downtube. This will pose an interesting problem when the new cupholder is introduced, since the cupholder is mounted in the same place as the handsfree control should be.

Question:
Gianna -
When is MINI USA going to revisit the dealer allocation policy so it is more in line with demand? Here in the NW US, the WA dealer has an 18 month wait for an MCS and isn't taking new orders at all and the OR dealer has a wait of 11 months. I see on the other boards the wait on the East Coast is a month or two at most.

Answer: MINI USA recently changed the way allocations are handled to make things more fair and equitable in all regions. Some of this “shortage” may be artificial, caused by dealers reserving production slots for people willing to pay more, or wanting to get in inventory to which they can add expensive accessories, thereby increasing profit. My suggestion is that if you're not happy with the service or availability at your local dealer, call around until you find one with better availability. The money you'll save on markup will usually more than cover shipping or airfare to an out of state dealer.

Question:
Joey –
I am torn between buying out the lease on my 2001 BMW 330xi or purchasing a 2005 MCS w/ automatic. What do you recommend? Keep in mind in live in snowy Ohio. Problem is my lease can only be extended until Feb. and not even sure if the 2005 MCS w/ automatic would be available.

Thanks

Answer: This is an interesting choice. Being an Ohio native myself (Go Bucks!), I know what a great benefit AWD can be. However, front wheel drive can provide a lot of the same benefits during the winter, while saving weight and increasing fuel economy the rest of the year.

As for availability, the best thing would be to get on the phone with your local dealer and try to work something out. Since production of the MCS w/ automatic transmission is scheduled to begin in January, theoretically you should be able to have a car by the end of February at the latest. Again, if your local dealer isn't willing to work with you, call around until you find one that will.

Question:
Tom –
How can I find out what updates/service bulletins have been issued that cover a specific VIN#? If MINI has identified specific problems with my car I would like to be able to have them fixed before the warranty expires. An example would be the powersteering/cooling fan problem on the early cars. Is there a service bulletin that can be performed even if I have not had a malfunction (yet)?

Answer: Call up your Service Advisor and ask him/her. They should be able to tell you everything you need to know.

Question:
Rex –
hi..we have a production number and are “on order” for a 2005 jet black mcs to be here mid – september or so. :) when ordering we chose the 17″ s-lite wheels…we picked the all season tires thinking they might help with the ride comfort and last longer. are we right?? pros and cons of the all season and the performance tires, please?

Answer: Congratulations! The general consensus is that since they're both run-flats, your ride quality will be about the same. The main difference, in my estimation, is the tread pattern. The A/S tyre is slightly more blocky, and the Performance is more aggressive. In my own personal experience with my 16″ A/S runflats, they wore out pretty quickly (about 20,000 miles). I don't think A/S vs. Performance makes all that much difference when they're both runflats.

Question:
Dave -
I was wondering if any of the '05 options could be added to an '04. Such as the Universal Garage Door opener?

Answer: I hope so! I haven't seen an '05 yet, so we'll just have to wait and see. I guess it depends on what kind of electronics are involved in the UGDO aside from just the modified rear-view mirror.

Question:
John –
Question #1/#2: What's the real reason a british accent isn't available on US MINIs? Is MINIUSA considering adding it, again (it used to be available on older models)?

Question #3: Why isn't Apple's iPod BMW/MINI hook up available for cars with Nav when Dennison's (sp?) Ice-link works? Apple's kit seems very limited.

Answer:I don't know why a British accent isn't available on US MINIs. It would be cool if they did add it again, but I don't have any insight into their product planning process.

I too am slightly disappointed with the offering from Apple/BMW. I had VERY high hopes for it, but unfortunately they are limited to the capabilities of the head unit they're working with. I suspect that the reason it's not available for cars with Nav is that the wiring harnesses between the navigation system and the head unit are different than non-Nav cars. This would create more complexity and therefore more cost, and since there aren't that many Nav-equipped MINIs out there, the decision was made to exclude them from this product. This is only my speculation, though. Again, I have no insight into MINI's product planning.

Question:
Dave -
I would like more details on the 1-05 MCS Automatice transmission. How much? 5 or 6 speed. Paddle shifters? Is it a clean sheet of paper design?

Answer: Me too! Pricing and more details should be announced in the Fall, I'd guess.

Question:
dino -
just ordered an 05 MCS and paid sticker. i called 9 dealerships and got a variety of answers to the quesiotn of price negotiation. Some dealers were charging over sticker while others claimed to be espousing saturn's model (no negotiation) for dealer and customer ease. Is there a MINI policy on this? should i have kept looking to find a way to get a better deal or does the demand make this impossible?

Answer: Congratulations on your new car! You're getting the best deal out there because you refused to pay over MSRP for the car.

While I choke on the idea of comparing ANYTHING MINI to Saturn, the parallel is a good one. Negotiating on price is the main thing that people hate about the car buying process. Every customer leaves the table thinking they could have gotten a better deal, even if the dealer cut the price as deeply as they could and still make a profit.

MINI's official policy is that individual dealers set the price of the product they're selling. This is because of restrictive anti-monopoly laws in place in the US which govern the way automotive manufacturers sell to the public. Saturn dealers sign an agreement that they won't negotiate, and “officially” they won't, but push them a little and you'll start seeing some discounts.

What NO ONE likes to hear is that paying MSRP is actually GOOD for people who own MINIs. It helps keep resale value high and lease residual values better than anything else on the market. What happens when dealers start to discount their cars? It becomes cheaper to buy a new one than a used one. Think about it; say you own a car (not a MINI) that is one or two model years old. Your mileage is good, but you financed it for 5 years and still owe a large chunk of that to the bank. If you tried to sell your car right now for what you owe, chances are good that because of discounts, rebates and incentives, it would be cheaper for someone to go buy a new car than the one you're selling because of depreciation. The high demand and limited availability, along with across the board MSRP sales of MINIs had virtually eliminated this problem.

Thanks Everyone for participating! We'll be doing this again soon.

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35 Comments

Ian Cull Jul 5th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

One question: What is “CAI”?

One comment: Post-delivery install of JCW helps maintain a reasonable level of business for your dealership and also, I suspect, avoids MINI/BMW losing any CAFE benefits due to reduced MPG of the works upgrade (assuming there is an MPG reduction – hard to be certain but likely at least a little).

Kurt Collins Jul 5th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

Actually highway mpg has been said to increase by 2-3 mpg.

Steve Jul 5th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

CAI = Cold Air Intake

That must have been a ton of work putting all those answers together. Thank you mystery person Motoring Advisor!

ioan Jul 5th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

CAI means Cold Air Intake ;-)

typo alert Jul 5th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

Gabe, near the bottom, John's Question #3 is placed in the answer section.

Gabe Jul 5th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

thanks!

Darryl Jul 5th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

CAI = Cold Air Intake.

Ian Cull Jul 5th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

Thanks all for the CAI. As far as JCW, GBMINI definitely does not show a 2-3mpg improvement. An eyeball average of the (hand-calculated) MPG for last year compared with this year (pre- and post- JCW) suggests about 1mpg less with the JCW. But of course, maybe I drive differently now? ;)

Trevor Jul 5th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

quote-What's the real reason a british accent isn't available on US MINIs?

what does this refer to?

dgszweda1 Jul 5th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

Interesting responses.

One that stuck out is that the $5,500 charge for the JCW kit includes a $1000 core charge, which is refunded after the parts are returned.

I do not believe I have ever heard this. It has alwasy been $5,500 with no other caveat. Is this true. The $4500 price is beginning to sound more reasonable. Someone can you please confirm this? Thanks.

foolsdragon Jul 5th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

dgs,

The price listed in the MINI Accessory catalog is $4500. However, if you choose to keep your factory parts, you will be charged an additional $1000, thus making the ACTUAL price of the JCW kit $5500.

pete Jul 5th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

thanks for the help! i dont think im going to put on the 15% pulley upgrade, becuase it may give me 1 extra horsepower, woo hooo, yay! ive notcied that the jcw does get better gas milaege on the highway, but im usually speeding along, getting the MINImal amount of mpg

Robert Jul 5th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

great answers. you are right on each answer. Gabe this was a wonderful idea. congrats

scott Jul 5th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

trevor, i was wondering that myself and thought that maybe it could be the voice of the NAV system? anyone know?

Richard Jul 6th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

The core charge answer also was interesting to me. Does anyone know if you get a core charge back on the extra set of 17″ rims your left with aftre ordering the R90s?

David Bunting Jul 6th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

When I got the R90's, Westchester MINI had my S-lites packed in the back of my MINI and the R90's mounted with my 17″ tires (that I paid for with the S-lites as part of the sport package).

I paid MSRP for the car, the sport package, and the R90's. I was then charged for labor to swap the tires from the s-lites to the R90's.

Totally fair way to handle it IMO.

NK Jul 6th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

Thanks, great idea – great answers.

niggelig Jul 6th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

european pick up:

its real. the pick ist done at munich. i did so. theres no way to pick up the car in the uk.

when i was in munich, on same day there were 3 cars delivered at factory to us-citisans, who wanted to make a big europe-trip with there new car and then bring it to the us. just for fun.

Gabe Jul 6th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

niggelig – are you sure that those people were picking up MINIs? I've been told several times by people at MINIUSA that there are no plans for a pick-up outside the US.

JiminVirginia Jul 6th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

Great answers. EXTREMELY useful info.

Thanks, and thanks to Gabe for arranging this.

Sean Bartnik Jul 6th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

One minor technical quibble with one of the answers regarding the power steering system:

“This is probably your power steering motor. It operates electrically while the car is running at low speeds to provide extra boost to the steering, then at higher speeds, a more direct hydraulic system takes over. “

This description of how the power steering works is not quite correct. The MINI power steering system does not have any direct steering assist from an electric motor at low speeds or any other speeds. Though there are cars out there with direct electrical steering assist, the MINI is not one of them.

The MINI power steering system is just like every other standard hydraulic power steering system out there except that the hydraulic pump is driven by an electric motor instead of a pump belt-driven by the engine as in most other cars.

At all speeds, steering assist is provided hydraulically. The (noisy) electric motor simply drives the pump that supplies hydraulic pressure. Hence the concept of “electro-hydraulic” power steering. The quote above seems to imply that there are two separate steering assist systems for different speeds (one electric and one hydraulic) which is not the case.

Chris M Jul 6th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

Thanks, Gabe, and thanks to the anonymous MA. Reading and answering all those questions was a lot of work.

BTW I'm also wondering what John's 'British accent' question refers to! Didn't know that the MINI talks….

RB Jul 6th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

Thump, thump thump?

No thump theories? …RB

Richard Jul 6th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

Thanks David… that is what my dealer said as well. They would pack my stock 17″ rims in the back when I pick up the car. I am assuming there is some demand from those MC & MCS owners who did not get upgraded wheels. Do you think there is a better place than eBay to sell them? Or did you just keep yours for posterity?

Scott Jul 6th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

Richard – core charge for rims? Depends on the dealer and the condition of the rims I would bet. I have heard that my local dealer will buy rims back if you are getting other MINI rims. I would assume they would only want new rims back that they can resell – maybe to sell individually to someone who bent a rim bad.

Randolph Lee Jul 7th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

The British accent was replaces in the sat Nav voice about the same time as the switch to the DVD version came out (though some late CD nav systems also suffer from this change… see this thread on MINI2.com for all the details and what some of us are doing to get the proper british voice back for our British MINI http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55841

Cheers a very interesting read

David Jul 7th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

Good info to know what happens to the original wheels when you order the r90s. Question: I know that the r90s are wider than the 17″ s-lites. Are they lighter than the s-lites? This could affect my decision to get some on my MCS. Thanks.

John Jul 7th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

Back in February 2004 I emailed MINIUSA about the American vs. British accent on the Nav system. Here's the response I got from Jen Schuelke, MINI Division Customer Relations:

“Congratulations on your upcoming MINI, how exciting for you! I apologize for your disappointment. I know that the British voice was more “MINI” but it was found that this setting was causing the Navigation system to malfunction, and this is why it is no longer offered. My apologies again, if they diagnose the cause for this problem and a fix becomes available, we will notify the dealer network.”

Most of us thought that this response was not the real reason as to why the British accent was discontinued because it seems a little far-fetched that a voice track could cause malfunctions. Who knows, maybe it actually could. Anyway, that's why I asked for the real reason. There's a lot of us in the US who would love to have a British accent on our MINIs.

John Jul 7th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

BTW… Thank you, Gabe, for organizing this cool Q&A session, and thank you, MA, for taking the time to answer my question.

ian Jul 7th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

Hi,

acording to my local dealer the price for the JCW is $6060.00 they also charge $99 for the aux input instead of $40. am i getting ripped off or did i just miss something.

niggelig Jul 7th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

@gabe

our mentor found it quite silly, that bmw should bring the cars from oxford to munich for pick up. but they do so.

when we were there in sept 03, one mini was for an us-citisans. but i remember, he was working for us-forces in frankfurt – i supose he ordered the car in germany.

Gabe Jul 7th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

Ah yes – I've heard of people in the US military being able to do the pick up in Germany.

dino Jul 7th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

great work and informative answers. initially unsure about not ordering my MINI locally. the $500 dealer markup included $95 dollar floormats, but otherwise lacked justification. the MA was right about the negotiation taking some of the fun out of buying.

the dealer i ended up ordering from has been accomodating in every respect and even threw in the floor mats for free.

thanks again.

foolsdragon Jul 7th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

ian-

The prices above are for parts only. What your dealer is quoting you includes installation, I hope! I've found that dealers are charging between $5500 and $6100 for a JCW install.

Gretchen Jul 9th, 2004 Link Reply to this comment

Does anyone know if I can order the Mini Cooper in Electric Blue? I was looking at the new color wheel and unless it's a mistake on Mini USA…that is what it shows! Thanks

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» MINI Clubman Update & Sketch
» BMW To Re-Brand JCW
» 2007 MINI MotoringFile Q&A
» MINI One and MINI Cooper D Now Official
» 2007 MINI Reader Reviews
» 2007 MINI USA Pricing and Options
» MINI Unveils the Sidewalk

2006
» MF Design Analysis: 2007 MINI
» 2007 JCW Accessories Revealed
» MINI Names the R55: The Clubman » 2007 MINI In Detail (Part 2 / Part 3)
» 2007 MINI Official Photos (Part 2 / Part 3)
» 2007 MINI Drops Weight
» Official 2007 MINI UK PDFs
» 2007 Nav Includes iDrive-Like Controller
» 2007 US Market Options Packages
» Hey Stracco: The Interview
» Let's Plan: MINI Clubs & MTTS
» MINI's Official R56 Preview Photos
» MINI's Official R56 Preview
» Next Generation MINI Revealed (#2)
» '07 MC & MCS Spotted in Death Valley
» 2007 MINI Color List (US Market)
» '07 MINI Gets More Power/Less Weight
» MF Review: MINIs on the Dragon
» MINI USA Releases JCW GP Pricing
» JCW Cooper S Long Term Review
» Seven New Colors for 2007
» MINI Release Info on Next Gen Engines
» Chicago Autoshow Gallery
» JCW GP at Geneva (final release info)
» 2006 JCW Product Info
» MINI Concept Detroit - In Detail
» MINI Sourced Triump Still Years Away
» US Connection for MINI's new Roadster
» First MINI Now Triumph?
» More News on the MINI Triumph Concept

2005
» Behind the Wheel of the 2007 MINI
» MINI Concept Tokyo - In Detail
» MINI Concept Frankfurt - In Detail
» Driven: The Nürburgring Nordschleife
» MINI Wins at Targa Newfoundland
» 2006 JCW Accessories
» US Market Color Changes for 2006
» Getrag's All Wheel Drive MINI In Depth
» BMW/MINI to Buy JCW?
» Official 2006 MINIUSA Pricing
» Special Editions/Package for 2006
» Checkmate Options Package (USA)
» JCW Direct From to the Factory in '06
» Tips on How to Sell Your MINI
» 2006 Model Year Timeline
» MINI's 2006 Color Changes
» Next Generation MINI Revealed
» Official MINI Armrest Revealed
» MotoringFile Review: MCS Auto

2004
» Details on the MCS Limited Slip Dif
» MotoringFile 2004 Holiday Gift Guide
» Getrag Tests All-Wheel Drive MINI
» Q&A on the OutMotoring ARC Armrest
» 2005 Chicago Auto Show / Gallery
» MINI USA's JCW GP Delivery Program
» 2005 MINI Changes
» The Cabrio In Depth / Gallery
» Special Edition MC40 / Gallery
» MINI Plant Tour Review
» Hood Rub Service Bulletin
» 2004 Chicago Auto Show / Gallery

2003
» MINI Accessory Additions for 2004
» CVT Paddles Retrofit
» 2005 MINI Spotted
» Rear Fogs Almost Here
» New Prince Engine Caught Testing
» MINI Releases Hood Rub Bulletin
» MINI_Motion Launched
» MINI Conquers Snow and Ice
» MINI One D Announced
» MINI Named North American Car of the Year
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Auto Reviews:
'09 Cooper S Convertible
'09 JCW Coupe
'09 JCW Clubman
JCW Stage I vs JCW Stage II
'08 Clubman S (Auto)
1st Drive: '08 MINI Clubman
Comparison: '08 BMW 135i
'06 R53 MCS vs '07 R56 MCS
'07 R56 JCW (Stage 1)
'07 MINI Cooper S Long Term
'07 BMW Z4 M Coupe
'07 MINI Cooper & Cooper S
Audio: '07 MC/MCS at the Track
'06 JCW GP Long term
Reader Review: JCW GP
'06 JCW Cooper S Long Term
Comparison: '06 Lotus Elise
Comparison: '06 Mazda MX5
Comparison: '06 UK Focus ST
Comparison: '06 Civic Si
Comparison: '04 TVR T350
Comparison: '06 Nissan 350z
Comparison: '06 VW GTI w/DSG
Podcast: Cooper S Auto
Podcast: BMW 325i
Podcast: JCW MC Soundkit
'04 JCW MINI Cooper Tuning Kit
'05 MCS: One Month Review
'05 MCS Auto
'05 JCW S 1st Drive
'05 MINI Cooper
'05 MCS Conv. Long Term
'05 MINI Cooper S
'05 MCS Cabrio 1st Drive
'04 JCW MCS First Drive
'04 MC w/JCW Tuning Kit
BMW M3 SMG Vs. MCS
'04 MINI Cooper CVT
'02 MCS 3 year Review
Autocrossing the MINI Range

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Performance Accessories:
R56 JCW Engine Kit
R56 JCW Suspension (Long-Term)
R56 JCW Suspension (Track)
R56 JCW Suspension (Street)
R53 Craven Speed Short Shifter
R53 M7 Understrut System
Kumho Ecsta SPT Tires
R53 M7 Strut Tower Plates
R53 JCW Alcantara Wheel
R53 JCW Brake Kit
R53 Webb 15% Pulley
R53 Helix MCSa 15% Pulley
R53 H-Sport 19mm Sway Bar
R53 MCS Supersprint Exhaust
Podcast: R53 MCS SS Exhaust
R53 JCW Cold Air Intake
Reader Rev.: R53 JCW Brakes
R50 Supersprint Exhaust
R50 Remus Exhaust
R50 Promini Intake
R50 Remus Dual Exhaust
Schroth Harness System
R50 CVT Steering Wheel Paddles

Exterior Accessories:
Miniature's Receiver Hitch
OEM White Tail Lights

Lifestyle Accessories:
MINI_Motion Watch
MINI_Motion Driving Shoe

Audio:
MINI Digital SoundModul
ICE-Link Plus iPod Adapter
Official BMW/iPod adapter
ICE-Link iPod Adapter
Kenwood iPod Interface
Alpine iPod Interface
Harman Kardon Stereo

Interior Accessories:
JCW Alcantara Steering Wheel JCW Leather Dash
MCAW Auto Up Circuit
MINI Rear Camera
MINI Rear Saddle (official)
MINI Rear Cargo Storage Case
Official MINI Rear Saddle Bag
2004 MINI Armrest Reviewed
Mymini Knee Pad
MINI Bluetooth Kit
MINI Video Input
Aftermarket Bluetooth Integration
Ian Cull Auto-up Circuit
Universal Mobile Phone Holder

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MINI Model Number Cheat Sheet:

1st Gen MINI
R50: One & MC Coupe
R52: All 1st Gen MINI Convt.
R53: MCS Coupe
2nd Gen MINI
R55: Clubman
R56: One/MC/MCS Coupe
R57: One/MC/MCS Convt.
R60: MINI SUV