Comments on: The 2005 JCW Kit to get New Injectors http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/09/03/the_2005_jcw_kit_to_get_new_injectors/ MINI Cooper news, reviews and opinion. Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:20:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Scott http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/09/03/the_2005_jcw_kit_to_get_new_injectors/comment-page-1/#comment-10403 Scott Mon, 06 Sep 2004 17:06:03 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/09/03/#comment-10403 <p>JimV - from my MINI tech - Adding JCW kit after initial break-in appears to make the car a little faster than a JCW installed when the car is brand new. Don't know the truth to that, but...</p> <p>Charlie - that $1000 core refund should already be part of the deal, not something special. If it is, then Classic has been ripping people off.</p> <p>Can't wait for the JCW stage 2 for my '04MCS JCW.</p> <p>Thanks for the update Gabe - keep 'em coming!</p> JimV – from my MINI tech – Adding JCW kit after initial break-in appears to make the car a little faster than a JCW installed when the car is brand new. Don't know the truth to that, but…

Charlie – that $1000 core refund should already be part of the deal, not something special. If it is, then Classic has been ripping people off.

Can't wait for the JCW stage 2 for my '04MCS JCW.

Thanks for the update Gabe – keep 'em coming!

]]> By: Rick B. http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/09/03/the_2005_jcw_kit_to_get_new_injectors/comment-page-1/#comment-10402 Rick B. Mon, 06 Sep 2004 04:42:38 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/09/03/#comment-10402 <p>Maybe the new injectors with new ECM technology, more is going on than just dumping fuel in. I'd give em the benifit of the doubt. They run these on dynos for improvement, and I'm sure your not going to be at any loss. Maybe it will be like a four barrel effect!</p> Maybe the new injectors with new ECM technology, more is going on than just dumping fuel in. I'd give em the benifit of the doubt. They run these on dynos for improvement, and I'm sure your not going to be at any loss. Maybe it will be like a four barrel effect!

]]> By: JCSS http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/09/03/the_2005_jcw_kit_to_get_new_injectors/comment-page-1/#comment-10399 JCSS Mon, 06 Sep 2004 01:29:28 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/09/03/#comment-10399 <p>Wow, all this feedback is just supreme. ABSOLUTELY CANNOT WAIT to get my hands on my new Mini. Just dreaming about the options... PLUS I plan on some sweet mods. COOL!!!!</p> Wow, all this feedback is just supreme. ABSOLUTELY CANNOT WAIT to get my hands on my new Mini. Just dreaming about the options… PLUS I plan on some sweet mods. COOL!!!!

]]> By: Gabe http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/09/03/the_2005_jcw_kit_to_get_new_injectors/comment-page-1/#comment-10398 Gabe Mon, 06 Sep 2004 00:43:51 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/09/03/#comment-10398 <p>That is just one of the changes that was mentioned to me by someone from MINI. There will be a few others.</p> That is just one of the changes that was mentioned to me by someone from MINI. There will be a few others.

]]> By: Patrick http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/09/03/the_2005_jcw_kit_to_get_new_injectors/comment-page-1/#comment-10401 Patrick Sun, 05 Sep 2004 21:35:35 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/09/03/#comment-10401 <p>Scooby it would make more sense for them to add a TB & intake and claim 210hp versus adding injectors. From the A/F charts I've seen the JCW could make upwards of 210hp with the stock injectors. If they were going for 220hp maybe but I don't see the point at 210hp. Plus, since air is the thing lacking adding fuel won't make more power and will probably be worse for emissions increasing the amount of unburned fuel.</p> <p>If they are shooting for 210hp I don't understand new injectors.</p> Scooby it would make more sense for them to add a TB & intake and claim 210hp versus adding injectors. From the A/F charts I've seen the JCW could make upwards of 210hp with the stock injectors. If they were going for 220hp maybe but I don't see the point at 210hp. Plus, since air is the thing lacking adding fuel won't make more power and will probably be worse for emissions increasing the amount of unburned fuel.

If they are shooting for 210hp I don't understand new injectors.

]]> By: scooblymonchee http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/09/03/the_2005_jcw_kit_to_get_new_injectors/comment-page-1/#comment-10400 scooblymonchee Sun, 05 Sep 2004 06:57:12 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/09/03/#comment-10400 <p>I'm totally with you Patrick. Larger injectors aren't making much sense to me either. The only way I can see this is if the 05 kit increases intake flow as well - via intake/throttle body?</p> I'm totally with you Patrick. Larger injectors aren't making much sense to me either. The only way I can see this is if the 05 kit increases intake flow as well – via intake/throttle body?

]]> By: Bob Reilly http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/09/03/the_2005_jcw_kit_to_get_new_injectors/comment-page-1/#comment-10397 Bob Reilly Sat, 04 Sep 2004 22:24:39 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/09/03/#comment-10397 <p>Just got this e-mail from my MA. Is this true? I have NEVER seen this mentioned anywhere.</p> <p>"You can put the JCW kit anytime. The difference is the warranty. If you put it on before you pick up the car you get the full 4/50 for the kit. After the fact you would get a 2 year."</p> Just got this e-mail from my MA. Is this true? I have NEVER seen this mentioned anywhere.

“You can put the JCW kit anytime. The difference is the warranty. If you put it on before you pick up the car you get the full 4/50 for the kit. After the fact you would get a 2 year.”

]]> By: Patrick http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/09/03/the_2005_jcw_kit_to_get_new_injectors/comment-page-1/#comment-10396 Patrick Sat, 04 Sep 2004 20:24:02 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/09/03/#comment-10396 <p>Ok I'm lost here... I thought that the 200hp JCW ran pretty rich already. So adding larger injectors would let you dump more fuel in an already rich mix?</p> <p>I don't see how adding injectors to a rich mix gets you 10hp. Gabe hear of anything else? Also, I thounght official specs were due out about now.</p> Ok I'm lost here… I thought that the 200hp JCW ran pretty rich already. So adding larger injectors would let you dump more fuel in an already rich mix?

I don't see how adding injectors to a rich mix gets you 10hp. Gabe hear of anything else? Also, I thounght official specs were due out about now.

]]> By: dillon http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/09/03/the_2005_jcw_kit_to_get_new_injectors/comment-page-1/#comment-10395 dillon Sat, 04 Sep 2004 18:04:26 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/09/03/#comment-10395 <p>JimV,tell the wife that waiting a few more months to get the '05 JCW kit,will increase the resale value of the MINI;not to mention,the cool points you'll get from her for getting a fully tricked-out MINI that'll make a great conversation piece.</p> JimV,tell the wife that waiting a few more months to get the '05 JCW kit,will increase the resale value of the MINI;not to mention,the cool points you'll get from her for getting a fully tricked-out MINI that'll make a great conversation piece.

]]> By: Josh Wardell http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/09/03/the_2005_jcw_kit_to_get_new_injectors/comment-page-1/#comment-10394 Josh Wardell Sat, 04 Sep 2004 17:17:51 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/09/03/#comment-10394 <p>Still waiting to see if they do anything on the intake side, the one thing not touched by JCW. Holding off on installing an intake till I know for sure the '05 upgrade changes it or not.</p> Still waiting to see if they do anything on the intake side, the one thing not touched by JCW. Holding off on installing an intake till I know for sure the '05 upgrade changes it or not.

]]> By: scooblymonchee http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/09/03/the_2005_jcw_kit_to_get_new_injectors/comment-page-1/#comment-10393 scooblymonchee Sat, 04 Sep 2004 07:15:54 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/09/03/#comment-10393 <p>Hmmm... 10hp on top of 200 peak (5%) doesn't sound like a dramatic increase. I'm assuming the big difference is going to be felt in the low end - more power/torque earlier, more linear response (zzz). Call me old school, but I'm a fan of an engine with a relatively narrow, peaky power band - one that you have to wring power out of by keeping the revs up. Much more fun to play with, even if the absolute numbers are inferior. I'll test drive the new version, but I'm guessing that I'll end up sticking with my first gen JCW.</p> Hmmm… 10hp on top of 200 peak (5%) doesn't sound like a dramatic increase. I'm assuming the big difference is going to be felt in the low end – more power/torque earlier, more linear response (zzz). Call me old school, but I'm a fan of an engine with a relatively narrow, peaky power band – one that you have to wring power out of by keeping the revs up. Much more fun to play with, even if the absolute numbers are inferior. I'll test drive the new version, but I'm guessing that I'll end up sticking with my first gen JCW.

]]> By: Gabe http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/09/03/the_2005_jcw_kit_to_get_new_injectors/comment-page-1/#comment-10392 Gabe Sat, 04 Sep 2004 06:32:37 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/09/03/#comment-10392 <p>Timothy - the '05 kit will only be available to the '05 MCS. However, according to sources there will be a extra kit available from JCW for all other MCSs that will bring the power up to '05 levels.</p> Timothy – the '05 kit will only be available to the '05 MCS. However, according to sources there will be a extra kit available from JCW for all other MCSs that will bring the power up to '05 levels.

]]> By: Gabe http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/09/03/the_2005_jcw_kit_to_get_new_injectors/comment-page-1/#comment-10391 Gabe Sat, 04 Sep 2004 06:04:32 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/09/03/#comment-10391 <p>Charlie - I think it's a little premature at this point to think in those terms. Hopefully there will be more info soon.</p> Charlie – I think it's a little premature at this point to think in those terms. Hopefully there will be more info soon.

]]> By: Charlie http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/09/03/the_2005_jcw_kit_to_get_new_injectors/comment-page-1/#comment-10390 Charlie Sat, 04 Sep 2004 04:54:16 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/09/03/#comment-10390 <p>So are the injectors the principal component of the "JCW Upgrade" that was talked about a few weeks ago, costing around $500? Any mention of a Cold Air Intake or new ECU Programming? Charlie</p> So are the injectors the principal component of the “JCW Upgrade” that was talked about a few weeks ago, costing around $500? Any mention of a Cold Air Intake or new ECU Programming? Charlie

]]> By: Charlie http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/09/03/the_2005_jcw_kit_to_get_new_injectors/comment-page-1/#comment-10389 Charlie Sat, 04 Sep 2004 04:51:43 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/09/03/#comment-10389 <p>According to Classic MINI, the JCW Kits for the 04 and earlier models are not compatible with the '05 Models. Accordingly they find themselves with some "excess inventory", and will sell you the '04 Kit at a killer price, plus a $1,000 refundable core charge for the blower and head. Supplies are limited. Check with Brian or Steve at Classic. BMWparts@classicautocampus.com</p> <p>Charlie</p> According to Classic MINI, the JCW Kits for the 04 and earlier models are not compatible with the '05 Models. Accordingly they find themselves with some “excess inventory”, and will sell you the '04 Kit at a killer price, plus a $1,000 refundable core charge for the blower and head. Supplies are limited. Check with Brian or Steve at Classic. BMWparts@classicautocampus.com

Charlie

]]> By: JCSS http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/09/03/the_2005_jcw_kit_to_get_new_injectors/comment-page-1/#comment-10388 JCSS Sat, 04 Sep 2004 04:50:36 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/09/03/#comment-10388 <p>Big money is right. But i'll be the first in line!!! BLESS YOU MINI!!!!</p> Big money is right. But i'll be the first in line!!! BLESS YOU MINI!!!!

]]> By: Whitman http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/09/03/the_2005_jcw_kit_to_get_new_injectors/comment-page-1/#comment-10387 Whitman Sat, 04 Sep 2004 04:15:15 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/09/03/#comment-10387 <p>How 'bout some JCW Injector specs, Gabe? ;D</p> <p>Frank, 10-to-1 says no matter what's possible, MINI dealers will be bravely coy about making an 05MY kit available for your 04MY MCS. Big money in the trunk on the pre-05 kits sees them getting installed for $4500. [Full shelves.]</p> How 'bout some JCW Injector specs, Gabe? ;D

Frank, 10-to-1 says no matter what's possible, MINI dealers will be bravely coy about making an 05MY kit available for your 04MY MCS. Big money in the trunk on the pre-05 kits sees them getting installed for $4500. [Full shelves.]

]]> By: Gabe http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/09/03/the_2005_jcw_kit_to_get_new_injectors/comment-page-1/#comment-10386 Gabe Sat, 04 Sep 2004 03:59:56 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/09/03/#comment-10386 <p>Frank - a kit will be available for '03 and '04 JCW MINIs that will match output for the '05. No details yet.</p> Frank – a kit will be available for '03 and '04 JCW MINIs that will match output for the '05. No details yet.

]]> By: JB http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/09/03/the_2005_jcw_kit_to_get_new_injectors/comment-page-1/#comment-10385 JB Sat, 04 Sep 2004 03:35:22 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/09/03/#comment-10385 <p>hhmmmmm!@$!@ ive ordered JCW but its being applied separately to avoid <em>luxury car tax</em> that would apply if i bought it as a single purchase. so end of october my mcs gets here, then JCW gets ordered. bigger injectors hopefully included!</p> hhmmmmm!@$!@ ive ordered JCW but its being applied separately to avoid luxury car tax that would apply if i bought it as a single purchase. so end of october my mcs gets here, then JCW gets ordered. bigger injectors hopefully included!

]]> By: JCSS http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/09/03/the_2005_jcw_kit_to_get_new_injectors/comment-page-1/#comment-10384 JCSS Sat, 04 Sep 2004 02:44:54 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/09/03/#comment-10384 <p>Very cool Gabe. definitely a win-win situation. I ABSOLUTELY CANNOT WAIT to test drive that beast!!!!!</p> Very cool Gabe. definitely a win-win situation. I ABSOLUTELY CANNOT WAIT to test drive that beast!!!!!

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