Comments on: AutoBilde on the Next Generation MINI http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/10/21/autobilde_on_the_next_generation_mini/ MotoringFile | MINI news, reviews and opinion. MINI Cooper, Cooper S, Clubman, Countryman Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:14:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Patrick http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/10/21/autobilde_on_the_next_generation_mini/comment-page-1/#comment-12201 Patrick Sun, 31 Oct 2004 19:41:09 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/10/21/#comment-12201 <p>Notice the side view of the speedster: one with the soft top and one with the hard top: the driver's window is shaped differently in each... so do you think the speedster would ship with two different sets of windows for seasonal change-out... now that's DESIGN!</p> Notice the side view of the speedster: one with the soft top and one with the hard top: the driver's window is shaped differently in each… so do you think the speedster would ship with two different sets of windows for seasonal change-out… now that's DESIGN!

]]> By: Gabe http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/10/21/autobilde_on_the_next_generation_mini/comment-page-1/#comment-12200 Gabe Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:48:21 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/10/21/#comment-12200 <p>What are you talking about? The BMW updates models every seven years... a much longer time frame than most automakers.</p> <p>What your saying makes absolutely no sense.</p> What are you talking about? The BMW updates models every seven years… a much longer time frame than most automakers.

What your saying makes absolutely no sense.

]]> By: BJ http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/10/21/autobilde_on_the_next_generation_mini/comment-page-1/#comment-12199 BJ Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:43:29 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/10/21/#comment-12199 <p>P.D. I`ll better invest on a porsche.</p> P.D. I`ll better invest on a porsche.

]]> By: BJ http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/10/21/autobilde_on_the_next_generation_mini/comment-page-1/#comment-12198 BJ Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:40:22 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/10/21/#comment-12198 <p>What a waste of time, planning on buying a 2005 mini s, mainly because It would not change in a long time, (what they said). Now it is just another 3-4 year car. How about that, now they are copying from the Japanese, "change the car when ever you can". A shame for some of us who are keepers, not pro-consuming type of people. That is right BMW, why don`t you make a crapy cheap car and sell it like it is, oh , sorry that is where you are heading, only you will sell it like a gem. Now availiable at every Walmart! FOCUS, Make the diference, BE Unique.</p> What a waste of time, planning on buying a 2005 mini s, mainly because It would not change in a long time, (what they said). Now it is just another 3-4 year car. How about that, now they are copying from the Japanese, “change the car when ever you can”. A shame for some of us who are keepers, not pro-consuming type of people. That is right BMW, why don`t you make a crapy cheap car and sell it like it is, oh , sorry that is where you are heading, only you will sell it like a gem. Now availiable at every Walmart! FOCUS, Make the diference, BE Unique.

]]> By: Steve or liza http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/10/21/autobilde_on_the_next_generation_mini/comment-page-1/#comment-12197 Steve or liza Tue, 26 Oct 2004 01:02:08 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/10/21/#comment-12197 <p>I hate that red car with the top. Looks to me like an SUV that was in an accident.</p> I hate that red car with the top. Looks to me like an SUV that was in an accident.

]]> By: flyboy 2160 http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/10/21/autobilde_on_the_next_generation_mini/comment-page-1/#comment-12196 flyboy 2160 Sun, 24 Oct 2004 07:58:48 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/10/21/#comment-12196 <p>nonononononono you idiots don't change the basic car!! if you put a big european nanny car snout on it, you'll ruin the looks. if you want to cut costs, delete extras like the body computer and the electric windows and locks. if the metal hood is too hard to stamp or deep draw, make it out of smc, but don't change the shape or the size, so you can avoid the naany car regulations WE DON'T WANT A GOLF OR A WRX.</p> nonononononono you idiots don't change the basic car!! if you put a big european nanny car snout on it, you'll ruin the looks. if you want to cut costs, delete extras like the body computer and the electric windows and locks. if the metal hood is too hard to stamp or deep draw, make it out of smc, but don't change the shape or the size, so you can avoid the naany car regulations WE DON'T WANT A GOLF OR A WRX.

]]> By: Ryan http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/10/21/autobilde_on_the_next_generation_mini/comment-page-1/#comment-12195 Ryan Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:30:33 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/10/21/#comment-12195 <p>The speedster is pretty cool looking. The off-road is interesting, but I'd never drive it. I agree with the person who said the wagon looks like a hearse, and the coupe is the worst of them all. Changing the roof like that is not true to the idea of the traditional Mini</p> The speedster is pretty cool looking. The off-road is interesting, but I'd never drive it. I agree with the person who said the wagon looks like a hearse, and the coupe is the worst of them all. Changing the roof like that is not true to the idea of the traditional Mini

]]> By: Ben Auty http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/10/21/autobilde_on_the_next_generation_mini/comment-page-1/#comment-12194 Ben Auty Sat, 23 Oct 2004 16:28:57 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/10/21/#comment-12194 <p>UTTER CHUD ... This is not MINI ... Dont stray away from the original and best ! You are going to turn a tradition into euro shat !</p> UTTER CHUD … This is not MINI … Dont stray away from the original and best ! You are going to turn a tradition into euro shat !

]]> By: Gabe http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/10/21/autobilde_on_the_next_generation_mini/comment-page-1/#comment-12193 Gabe Sat, 23 Oct 2004 14:30:51 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/10/21/#comment-12193 <p>pooc - being a designer myself I'm always one to trust the designers... at least initially. And especially at this level. I also don't like to second guess anything that is just conjecture at this point. However it's fun to read the opinions and conversation that follows articles like this... it's great to hear well thoughtout opinions and ideas. Frankly these are conversations that designers and engineers at MINI should be reading.</p> <p>But of course two word negative comments don't exactly help anyone.</p> pooc – being a designer myself I'm always one to trust the designers… at least initially. And especially at this level. I also don't like to second guess anything that is just conjecture at this point. However it's fun to read the opinions and conversation that follows articles like this… it's great to hear well thoughtout opinions and ideas. Frankly these are conversations that designers and engineers at MINI should be reading.

But of course two word negative comments don't exactly help anyone.

]]> By: pooc http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/10/21/autobilde_on_the_next_generation_mini/comment-page-1/#comment-12192 pooc Sat, 23 Oct 2004 12:17:01 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/10/21/#comment-12192 <p>What are core values of the Mini as a Mini? I have bought my Mini because it’s retro urban car with the spirit from the past. My previous comment was regarding this issue. As a mini owner I’m not considering to have another mini and especially not something that doesn’t look or feel Mini. I like to read comments, but sometimes I feel like ppl don’t have a lot of criticism (or it’s because I’m designer myself :-) Sorry if I was hurting someone’s feelings. Ciao</p> What are core values of the Mini as a Mini? I have bought my Mini because it’s retro urban car with the spirit from the past. My previous comment was regarding this issue. As a mini owner I’m not considering to have another mini and especially not something that doesn’t look or feel Mini. I like to read comments, but sometimes I feel like ppl don’t have a lot of criticism (or it’s because I’m designer myself :-) Sorry if I was hurting someone’s feelings. Ciao

]]> By: MrsMini http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/10/21/autobilde_on_the_next_generation_mini/comment-page-1/#comment-12191 MrsMini Sat, 23 Oct 2004 01:32:27 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/10/21/#comment-12191 <p>I'm not big on station wagons but the coupe, speedster, and offroader pretty cool!! motor on</p> I'm not big on station wagons but the coupe, speedster, and offroader pretty cool!! motor on

]]> By: Gabe http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/10/21/autobilde_on_the_next_generation_mini/comment-page-1/#comment-12188 Gabe Fri, 22 Oct 2004 23:43:12 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/10/21/#comment-12188 <p>Oh no - I love a good debate... it's just the sorta mindless two word comments that always bother me.</p> Oh no – I love a good debate… it's just the sorta mindless two word comments that always bother me.

]]> By: AlanB http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/10/21/autobilde_on_the_next_generation_mini/comment-page-1/#comment-12190 AlanB Fri, 22 Oct 2004 22:40:44 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/10/21/#comment-12190 <p>I have seen the coupe on Monster Garage! It is the new AMC Pacer! Give me a MINI not some sort of crossover thingy!</p> I have seen the coupe on Monster Garage! It is the new AMC Pacer! Give me a MINI not some sort of crossover thingy!

]]> By: RB http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/10/21/autobilde_on_the_next_generation_mini/comment-page-1/#comment-12189 RB Fri, 22 Oct 2004 22:25:52 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/10/21/#comment-12189 <p>Gabe & Frank...</p> <p>debate</p> <p>To contend in words; to dispute; hence, to deliberate; to consider; to discuss or examine different arguments in the mind; -- often followed by on or upon.</p> <p>It seems to me that, this time around, anyway, at least the comments are civil and a debate should have all sides or it's just a backslapping contest. </p> <p>By the way I think the moderne MINI MOKE is a kick!</p> <p><em>*</em>RB</p> Gabe & Frank…

debate

To contend in words; to dispute; hence, to deliberate; to consider; to discuss or examine different arguments in the mind; — often followed by on or upon.

It seems to me that, this time around, anyway, at least the comments are civil and a debate should have all sides or it's just a backslapping contest.

By the way I think the moderne MINI MOKE is a kick!

*RB

]]> By: Bill Lawrence http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/10/21/autobilde_on_the_next_generation_mini/comment-page-1/#comment-12187 Bill Lawrence Fri, 22 Oct 2004 16:28:27 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/10/21/#comment-12187 <p>"....and less playful control elements will be used. The Tach will remain in it's current position but the center console will be cleared out."</p> <p>I don't like the sound of that! The materials of a "higher order" sounds good, but I love the current interior. </p> <p>The center speedometer is one of my favorite parts of the car. I can't imagine a MINI without it (no offense to my friends with NAV's and guage packages). The toggle switches in the center is another MINIism that must remain. </p> <p>The MINI is one of the few cars that is as recognizable from the inside as it is the outside. If any BMW/MINI people are reading this, I beg you to PLEASE not make changes that will cancel out MINI's distinctive interior features.</p> “….and less playful control elements will be used. The Tach will remain in it's current position but the center console will be cleared out.”

I don't like the sound of that! The materials of a “higher order” sounds good, but I love the current interior.

The center speedometer is one of my favorite parts of the car. I can't imagine a MINI without it (no offense to my friends with NAV's and guage packages). The toggle switches in the center is another MINIism that must remain.

The MINI is one of the few cars that is as recognizable from the inside as it is the outside. If any BMW/MINI people are reading this, I beg you to PLEASE not make changes that will cancel out MINI's distinctive interior features.

]]> By: Christopher W http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/10/21/autobilde_on_the_next_generation_mini/comment-page-1/#comment-12186 Christopher W Fri, 22 Oct 2004 11:36:34 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/10/21/#comment-12186 <p>I find the very steeply raked windscreen and roofline curvature to be a real departure from current MINI design. Not that it's a bad thing (the proportions are a tiny bit off, but since these are just Photoshop images it's useless to nitpick). I just wonder what both changes might do to the create inefficiencies in interior volume. </p> <p>-CW</p> I find the very steeply raked windscreen and roofline curvature to be a real departure from current MINI design. Not that it's a bad thing (the proportions are a tiny bit off, but since these are just Photoshop images it's useless to nitpick). I just wonder what both changes might do to the create inefficiencies in interior volume.

-CW

]]> By: Weslim http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/10/21/autobilde_on_the_next_generation_mini/comment-page-1/#comment-12185 Weslim Fri, 22 Oct 2004 10:47:27 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/10/21/#comment-12185 <p>I think the idea of a speedster is quite good and would fit in quite well in the current rage. I´m not so sure about the others.</p> I think the idea of a speedster is quite good and would fit in quite well in the current rage. I´m not so sure about the others.

]]> By: Gabe http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/10/21/autobilde_on_the_next_generation_mini/comment-page-1/#comment-12184 Gabe Fri, 22 Oct 2004 04:24:15 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/10/21/#comment-12184 <p>Yeah Frank - there's an unusual amount of narrow-minded comments on this one...</p> Yeah Frank – there's an unusual amount of narrow-minded comments on this one…

]]> By: Joey http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/10/21/autobilde_on_the_next_generation_mini/comment-page-1/#comment-12183 Joey Fri, 22 Oct 2004 04:19:05 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/10/21/#comment-12183 <p>speedster and coupe are cool but the other 2 are retarded</p> speedster and coupe are cool but the other 2 are retarded

]]> By: Herman L. http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/10/21/autobilde_on_the_next_generation_mini/comment-page-1/#comment-12182 Herman L. Fri, 22 Oct 2004 03:58:08 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2004/10/21/#comment-12182 <p>speedster and off roader seems mildly intriguing, but to me the best is still gonna be the hatch</p> <p>coupe? that kinda defeats the purpose, and the wagon is just plain ugly.. i wish they just use castaga to redesign it again</p> speedster and off roader seems mildly intriguing, but to me the best is still gonna be the hatch

coupe? that kinda defeats the purpose, and the wagon is just plain ugly.. i wish they just use castaga to redesign it again

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