Official MINI/iPod Adapter Review

[Update: Matthew was kind enough to substantially update his review with another day's worth of use behind him. Skip down to the end of this article for the update portion.]

For all of you patiently awaiting the official iPod adapter here is the first review of the actual MINI version of the product.

Installation:
The entire process was very painless at about 2 hours. (Bare in mind that this was their very first official 'consumer' install they have ever done aside from the demo MINI so they did spend time to make sure it was just right.) My guess is that it could be done in less than an hour if the glovebox & centre console area are already cleared. Wanted to do the install myself, but there isn't an install manual with the kit like many other oem parts.

The cable is just a bit over 62 cm from the interior glovebox gasket to the beginning of the dock module. Sadly, this isn't long enough to put my ipod in it's usual resting place below the e-brake.

I'm still searching for that perfect passthrough mount that has a 'dock' connected to it so i don't have to clasp & unplug the cable every time i leave the car. Something like the Belkin or PowerSupport models for the cup holder but with a rigid dock connector, something that can be mounted on the Centre Console Pillar screws, or something with super-strong suction cups.

Display:
Like it's BMW sibling, the MINI Interface system displays 'MINI' in the iPod screen when connected & 'Do not disconnect' when it's in use. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news to my fellow iPod Photo users, but you won't see any of your favorite album cover, song, or track information as with normal operation. (Perhaps the only defense for the AUX cable…which is still usable with the interface kit installed.)

There is a clause in the Manual that does say: 'Future firmware updates for your iPod or iPod mini may affect the features and functions described in this manual.' So one would hope that more features perhaps would be supported as opposed to functionality taken away every time we update the iPod…

Operation:
There is a definitely noticeable time delay as the system scans through your playlists when the iPod is first plugged in. (My standard motoring playlist has 203 songs & takes over a minute and a half to scan) You may avoid this by not removing the iPod as you depart; but that is highly inadvisable if you usually keep it in plain view & don't have a lockable glovebox of the 2005 models.

I'd also like to mention that quite often the iPod won't be recognized if plugged in after the radio is turned on. (Just as with the computer, the iPod isn't hot-swappable so be sure the radio is off before you remove it.)

As with the BMW interface, the MINI kit also requires that you name your 5 playlists starting with 'MINI1….MINI2', & so on. You do however, have the ability to add to additional text, such as 'MINI3-Motoring_Tunes' or 'MINI5_CanyonRun'.

One interesting feature is that when in RND or random mode (which shuffles your current iPod playlist) you can't fast forward through the current song, but rather skip through tracks which gains speed in increments of 10 (not exponentially by powers of ten alla Charles & Ray) as you hold the fast forward button down. So if on track 5, it'll go to 15…25…35 etc.

When not using RND mode, you can fast forward through a song as normal & skip tracks with a single click too. I don't have any feelings about this as any songs with unfortunate or extraordinarily long intros can be set to start at a certain time frame in iTunes. (Be sure to recopy them to your playlist when doing so from the computer's library.)

Those of you who like to listen to your MINI's stereo while detailing will be happy to know that the MINI Interface kit does work for 20 minutes without the key in the ignition.

Conclusion:
All things considered, I fully agree with Gabe's review in that though limited in function; there are definite benefits to being able to keep your eyes on the road & hands on the wheel. This is the best interface thus far for those who have the Multi-Function Steering Wheel. I'd liken it to having a 5 CD changer, but with less delay for track access & 100s of songs per CD.

*Special thanks to Long Beach MINI for offering this as the grand-prize for this year's Poker Rally. (They not only gave away the interface kit, but also a mini iPod to go with it & free installation)

-Matthew [2003 SLKGRN-MC]

[Update]

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Here's an update on yesterday's findings:

The Connection with AUX port looks as follows:

When first going to the MINI this morning, I tried using the dock. The iPod Photo connected as expected with the “MINI” screen, but no sound was present (probably due to line out on dock). The MFSW controls were activating the iPod as i could clearly hear it accessing it when advancing tracks. However, after testing it & turning the radio off, it failed to go back to the main menu! It wasn't until the iPod was plugged back into the Desktop G4 that it reverted to the menu screen.

(Dock : Bad, Cable: Good)

Next, the dock-cable was used directly, but discovered that it wasn't quite in all the way as shown here:

The iPod now worked as before, allowing control from both MFSW & click wheel; showing all track, album, & album art info! Thinking that this loose connection was the key to “new functionality,” i snapped the connector all the way in. But no change, everything still worked without any skipping or delay in song management.

Here is the iPod resting very precariously on the cupholder with Boost Radio in plain view playing a song chosen with the MFSW:

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*note the radio display says: CD 2-09 which indicating Playlist 2 and song #9 out of 10. Special thanks to my buddy Jay who brought the fancy click wheel cover back for me from Japan a 1+years ago; for my 2G iPod :-)

Hmmmm….i know what you're thinking: “Speedo Wheel” instead of Tach wheel eh? (Apologies for the grainy photo; couldn't get external light source mounted for this one..)

This next photo show a manual change of songs with the iPod: As i've skipped through songs 1-3 on the iPod, the display updates on the Boost Radio & lands on Song 4 in synchrony.

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Now to control the iPod with both MTFSW & Click Wheel:

1. 1st the iPod was plugged in & the radio turned on.

2. The Playlist “MINI2_Hitz” is chosen via radio preset button #2 & the 1st song starts playing.

3. The song is skipped to the next one (#2) with the MFSW, so i know the iPod is synced.

(The screen won't change, but rather stays as in picture above. I went through the hierarchy to find that it had been changed miraculously to the right playlist & song!)

4. As i dig deeper into the hierarchy, the ipod shows that it's playing the correct song chosen.

5. Now I click once more on the iPod button to reveal the Song Info. Correct again :-) From now on, the iPod stays on this Track Info screen & updates as i skip songs on the MFSW.

6. When I click on iPod Button again, the full album art shows as usual for a few seconds, then goes back to the previous screen.

*Note all the photos had the Backlight turned on with no sleep from the settings menu. Otherwise the screen will go dark according to the Backlight settings. Unlike accessing the iPod normally, the Backlight won't turn on when any changes are made with the MFSW. Thus i've chosen to turn “Backlight Timer Off” since the iPod is being charged while plugged into the MINI.

*On the occasions when i do get the standard “MINI” screen, touching the click wheel only activates the Backlight if the timer is set & hold slider deactivated.

7. I can still click further & access the Song timing/advance and the Rating screen too; which all revert back to the Track Info Screen as usual.

8. No other Playlists other than the “MINIx” ones where accessed as the manual specifically says to make only 5 Presets & name them accordingly.

Not sure if i've confused myself and everyone else more or less, but i'm happy to see that my findings weren't just a fluke.

-Matthew

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  • http://motoringfile.com Gabe

    Wow Melanie… well done :) I can vouch for the ICE-Link being a great solution.

  • David

    I too bought my Ice-link from Tom at Dension. He seems to know his stuff, when it comes to the install on the Mini Cooper. I will be installing it this weekend.

  • Amy

    I spoke to the parts guy at my dealer today and he said that there are roughly 1400 ipod interface kits in the US ready to go right now. He's holding one for me for install 11/27.

  • Joe K.

    LB Mini called me today and said my ipod kit is in. So I would imagine that they will be hitting other dealers around the country about now.

  • Rick

    Matthew-your soundtest between the ipod adapter and the aux. input isn't a fair one if you didn't make the aux connection using a line-level out plug (as opposed to running a male-male wire from the ipod headphone jack to the aux port). I have the Sik car adapter (includes cigarette adapter plug and line level out) and my ipod has amazing sonic quality through the aux port and unlike the Mini ipod adapter, I have full control over my songs. You can't select songs on the fly in the car with the Mini ipod adapter-that's a huge disadvantage.

  • Matthew

    Aux Port-Line Out: i'll have to try the line out (from the dock perhaps) as my previous iPod didn't have that option.

    The option to play songs from your entire iPod library does work with the BMW/MINI interface.

    As mentioned in the update, songs can be chosen directly on iPod via any of 5 playlists.

    Its really much safer to just skip songs via the MFSW than “look” for a song while driving. A scroll wheel on the MFSW & a Heads-Up Display would make the experience better possibly. In fact, positioning the iPod or radio in the vacinity of the tachometer would also be nice.

  • http://www.hyperbluemini.com Mike

    Rick, is it true that the line-out makes all the difference? I was always disappointed in the quality from the aux input. I mean it's good, but it's no contest when I play the same song from a CD, just far more clear on the CD. Do you think getting the line-out adapter for my iPod would nmake it sound identical to CD, or does the H/K system also do some sort of special processing from the CD?

  • http://www.lackofstyle.com Julie

    Matthew –

    How goes the iPod photo hookup? Are you still able to see the iPod's regular screen while playing through the adaptor?

  • Rick

    Mike-in my subjective listening experiences with both (albeit short experience-I just got my Mini a week ago), my ipod sounds a lot better through the line level out than it does through the headphone jack. It sounds as good as a CD through the car's HK system.

    And about being able to select any song from your ipod to play in the mini through the ipod adapter: it's my impression that you can only do that IF that song's on one of your pre-made playlists. And even then, there's no way to directly access the song if it's, say, #10 on one of your mini playlists. Let's put it this way: suppose your friend hops in your Mini and pulls out his iPod. With the aux port, you can plug it in and immediately listen to any song you want. With the Mini adapter, you won't be able to listen to it at all because there isn't a Mini playlist on it.

  • Alejandro SanchezM

    Rick that does not sound right. You should be able to listen to all the library on cd 6 even if you don't have any playlists on the ipod.

    Also seeing as you can do playlists on the fly in the ipod you won't be impeded to listen to music on your friends ipod.

    (asking again, anyone got the part number? I am seriously leaning towards the icruze from monstercable since the mini solution is taking forever. I am a bit concerned that the icruze won't be compatible with the mini but I just have to wait a few more days to find out.)

  • AldoS

    Since I don't have the MFSW it would seem the AUX input makes the most sense. Any opinions?

  • Matthew

    Selecting Songs Directly: Yes, Alejandro is right. When Preset 6 is chosen, any song on the iPod can be selected.

  • Matthew

    Julie, I can still see the current song/track/album info while using the MFSW. :-)

    However, it is a 50/50% chance as it changes every time i start the MINI.

    Sometimes it will display the “MINI” screen, & other times you get the “List View”

  • RHT3

    I bought the adaptor. Is there an install how-to or factory pdf of how to put it in?

    Looks like certain wires in the factory radio harness need to be swapped out for some in the adaptor.

  • Alejandro SanchezM

    Can someone who bought the adapter please post the part number for it?

    Thanks

  • Rick

    Matthew- about your comment “When Preset 6 is chosen, any song on the iPod can be selected”: do you select the song on the ipod or do you have to use the head unit or steering wheel control to access songs through a Preset 6 playlist? If the latter (i.e. all controls on the ipod are disabled once it's hooked up to the car) then again, this is bad because if you have 1,000 songs on your ipod and the only way to navigate through them is on the head units display (pressing forward track to songg #431 can't be fun), then that's really bad.

  • RHT3

    adaptor: 65 41 0 395 293 instructions (free to customer, separate from adaptor): 01 29 0 395 295

    You're welcome!

  • Matthew

    Preset 6: Yes Rick, when i the iPod display works with the MFSW; showing the List View, any song can be chosen while on Preset 6.

    BTW: When using the MFSW for your entire library, you can hold the “skip/FFWD” button to skip through songs 10 at a time. You can also use a “scan mode” which previews a bit of every song for a few seconds.

  • Matthew

    RHT3, Thanks for providing the official part numbers. Did you also get the installation “instructions”?

  • J Wilson

    I have just had an ipod adapter installed in my mini. It is made by Dension and has a bracket connector. http://www.everythingipod.co.uk expensive but bloody brilliant!

  • RHT3

    Matthew,

    Yes, I received the instructions. Thanks. My dealer was supposed to provide them, but didn't at time of purchase. I was first in Colorado to preoder an adaptor, so they didn't know the kit needed to be delivered with install instructions printed by the dealer.

  • doug81

    Hi

    The dension kit is good my mate has that got it from everything ipod as well. I just got a new cardock FM in black ive not seen them many places got mine at http://www.easyipod.co.uk came next day.

    Ive also heard of a new harmon kardon piece of kit you can find it by putting in

    “drive and play” on google

    cheers

  • http://www.easyipod.co.uk doug81

    Hi

    The dension kit is good my mate has that got it from everything ipod as well. I just got a new cardock FM in black ive not seen them many places got mine at

    http://www.easyipod.co.uk

    came next day.

    Ive also heard of a new harmon kardon piece of kit you can find it by putting in

    “drive and play” on google

    cheers

  • Ataxic

    New MINI las night. Dead iPod this morning. Whatever you do, don’t dis/connect iPod with the radio on!

  • alllan m.

    THX.

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