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		<title>By: michael Boice</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/11/24/twin-lamp_shock_for_new_mini/comment-page-1/#comment-13853</link>
		<dc:creator>michael Boice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;...trying way too hard.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;trying way too hard.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t worry about the headlights or the nasty, huge grill...  I&#039;ve got confidence that someone in the MINI community will have an &quot;Original New MINI&quot; mod out within a few months to change the design back to the current look...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t worry about the headlights or the nasty, huge grill&#8230;  I&#39;ve got confidence that someone in the MINI community will have an &#8220;Original New MINI&#8221; mod out within a few months to change the design back to the current look&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Vanwall</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/11/24/twin-lamp_shock_for_new_mini/comment-page-1/#comment-13851</link>
		<dc:creator>Vanwall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2004 18:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Evolution and revolution don&#039;t mix well in the styling game, and most radical changes seem to come from stylists attempting to make a statement that resonates with the buying public, kinda like throwing something out there that sticks to the old dartboard. No matter how well or ill intentioned, change happens because people buy the dang things enough to make it acceptable. Examples: Aztek = ugly, hence not as  many sales as wished, by a long shot, and general condemnation by those with good eyesight; MINI = nirvana, hence its more than evident success and overwhelming kudos from the car-art world. In this case evolution wins over revolution, as the MINI is basically a refined classic Mini in overall look, whereas the Aztec and others of this kind of ilk are best left on the drawing room floor. Why mess with success? Because you are now in charge, and have the opportunity to make a statement.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As far as I can tell, the real heavyweight we must understand in all this brouhaha over the MINI styling cues is one Gerhard Volker Hildebrand, according to the October issue of Automobiles Classique, the new head of MINI design, within the BMW group. The mag has a nice series of profiles on the heads of design for just about every manufacturer. Bangle and Hooydonck are pretty much the  Beemer guys, and Hildebrand is Stephenson&#039;s direct successor, it seems. Looks like a nice guy, and he&#039;s not some young buck, trying to run off the reservation and cause choas, so hopefully, he&#039;ll keep the basic look intact. Cross your fingers. And toes. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As an aside, the one Maker who refrained from identifying it&#039;s Design Chief was Honda - THE most evolutionary stylists of all. I bet if you set one model of every Honda car ever built in a row chronologically, it would raise the hair on the back of your head - this company has a looooooonnnng-distance time-scale plan for its cars. Scary. Bland, but scary none the less. (yeah, I know you could do that with Minis, but that&#039;s cause perfection doesn&#039;t need change. HeHe.)
Let&#039;s hope old Gert is class act, and not a slash &amp; burn kinda guy.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;     BCNU,
    Rob in Dago
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evolution and revolution don&#39;t mix well in the styling game, and most radical changes seem to come from stylists attempting to make a statement that resonates with the buying public, kinda like throwing something out there that sticks to the old dartboard. No matter how well or ill intentioned, change happens because people buy the dang things enough to make it acceptable. Examples: Aztek = ugly, hence not as  many sales as wished, by a long shot, and general condemnation by those with good eyesight; MINI = nirvana, hence its more than evident success and overwhelming kudos from the car-art world. In this case evolution wins over revolution, as the MINI is basically a refined classic Mini in overall look, whereas the Aztec and others of this kind of ilk are best left on the drawing room floor. Why mess with success? Because you are now in charge, and have the opportunity to make a statement.</p>

<p>As far as I can tell, the real heavyweight we must understand in all this brouhaha over the MINI styling cues is one Gerhard Volker Hildebrand, according to the October issue of Automobiles Classique, the new head of MINI design, within the BMW group. The mag has a nice series of profiles on the heads of design for just about every manufacturer. Bangle and Hooydonck are pretty much the  Beemer guys, and Hildebrand is Stephenson&#39;s direct successor, it seems. Looks like a nice guy, and he&#39;s not some young buck, trying to run off the reservation and cause choas, so hopefully, he&#39;ll keep the basic look intact. Cross your fingers. And toes. </p>

<p>As an aside, the one Maker who refrained from identifying it&#39;s Design Chief was Honda &#8211; THE most evolutionary stylists of all. I bet if you set one model of every Honda car ever built in a row chronologically, it would raise the hair on the back of your head &#8211; this company has a looooooonnnng-distance time-scale plan for its cars. Scary. Bland, but scary none the less. (yeah, I know you could do that with Minis, but that&#39;s cause perfection doesn&#39;t need change. HeHe.)
Let&#39;s hope old Gert is class act, and not a slash &amp; burn kinda guy.</p>

<p><pre><code>     BCNU,
    Rob in Dago
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/11/24/twin-lamp_shock_for_new_mini/comment-page-1/#comment-13850</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2004 17:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We should welcome some actual &quot;evolution&quot; but the cautions expressed here are properly big concerns.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;An immediately recognized &quot;Mini&quot; shape (going back to the original &#039;59) appears to be retained, even if LOA grows slightly for interior room.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I personally think two (2) distinctive round front lamps are an integral part of Mini recognition, but we must prepare for the advent of digital lighting (much smaller individual lamps).  This will drive design; witness the [some goofy] Audi design exercises.  Could the four lamp design be prep for LED?  I think we&#039;ll see &quot;two&quot; front lamps in &#039;06; one you recognize and perhaps another much smaller to carry a &quot;pencil beam&quot; driving light or some such idea.  The existing lamp (with integrated washers) carries the look I&#039;d bet on.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;All the talk of big wheels (for looks, not performance) has me a bit worried about on-track acceleration and handling.  Will the 18&#039;s be &quot;standard&quot; or options in those wheel wells?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But...  I&#039;m looking forward to the driving dynamics, the motors, the gearboxes, and the sheer joy of three machines in our garage: &#039;67 MCS, &#039;02 MC CVT, and &#039;06 MC?  Yeah!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should welcome some actual &#8220;evolution&#8221; but the cautions expressed here are properly big concerns.</p>

<p>An immediately recognized &#8220;Mini&#8221; shape (going back to the original &#39;59) appears to be retained, even if LOA grows slightly for interior room.</p>

<p>I personally think two (2) distinctive round front lamps are an integral part of Mini recognition, but we must prepare for the advent of digital lighting (much smaller individual lamps).  This will drive design; witness the [some goofy] Audi design exercises.  Could the four lamp design be prep for LED?  I think we&#39;ll see &#8220;two&#8221; front lamps in &#39;06; one you recognize and perhaps another much smaller to carry a &#8220;pencil beam&#8221; driving light or some such idea.  The existing lamp (with integrated washers) carries the look I&#39;d bet on.</p>

<p>All the talk of big wheels (for looks, not performance) has me a bit worried about on-track acceleration and handling.  Will the 18&#39;s be &#8220;standard&#8221; or options in those wheel wells?</p>

<p>But&#8230;  I&#39;m looking forward to the driving dynamics, the motors, the gearboxes, and the sheer joy of three machines in our garage: &#39;67 MCS, &#39;02 MC CVT, and &#39;06 MC?  Yeah!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: JoeDentist</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/11/24/twin-lamp_shock_for_new_mini/comment-page-1/#comment-13849</link>
		<dc:creator>JoeDentist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2004 15:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You guys sure can make a lot of stink about nothing. 96% of the people in the world probably could not tell the new model from the old. It looks like the current Mini, with a few changes, mostly caused by crazy laws from around the world. Some country outlaws toggle switches for windows, or makes exposed wipers illegal, or requires a dead chicken on the hood. Its tough to meet all the laws of every country. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I find absolutely nothing wrong with the new design. People who buy it will think of our cars like 1968 Beetle owners thought of 1965 Beetle owners, i.e. not at all.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is not like when the MG&#039;s got rubber bumpers. No one is going to die. When car makers all over the world create &quot;all new&quot; versions of successful cars, we can rejoice that Mini has merely facelifted again.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys sure can make a lot of stink about nothing. 96% of the people in the world probably could not tell the new model from the old. It looks like the current Mini, with a few changes, mostly caused by crazy laws from around the world. Some country outlaws toggle switches for windows, or makes exposed wipers illegal, or requires a dead chicken on the hood. Its tough to meet all the laws of every country. </p>

<p>I find absolutely nothing wrong with the new design. People who buy it will think of our cars like 1968 Beetle owners thought of 1965 Beetle owners, i.e. not at all.</p>

<p>This is not like when the MG&#39;s got rubber bumpers. No one is going to die. When car makers all over the world create &#8220;all new&#8221; versions of successful cars, we can rejoice that Mini has merely facelifted again.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rocketboy</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/11/24/twin-lamp_shock_for_new_mini/comment-page-1/#comment-13848</link>
		<dc:creator>Rocketboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2004 15:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If this really is the way MINI is going, Um, um, well, um.  Bigger? A few inches? Ok, bring it up to 150&quot; in length, no problem.  Twin Lamps?  Um, bug-eyes are one of the major design elements.  Not to mention that it looks very parts bin-ish.  Traditional Bonnet?  I would rather it didn&#039;t, mainly because the current setup is such a nice design.  Would it kill the looks of a MINI? Not at all.  Would it make it look cheaper?  Yes.  Again, I do seriously doubt that many of the changes will make it into the final design.  After spending all the money on the tooling for the current bonnet, I can&#039;t seem them getting rid of it.  Yes, it&#039;s an expensive part to make, but it was an expensive part to design also. And why use all the expensive parts on a car which is nothing more than a test mule?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this really is the way MINI is going, Um, um, well, um.  Bigger? A few inches? Ok, bring it up to 150&#8243; in length, no problem.  Twin Lamps?  Um, bug-eyes are one of the major design elements.  Not to mention that it looks very parts bin-ish.  Traditional Bonnet?  I would rather it didn&#39;t, mainly because the current setup is such a nice design.  Would it kill the looks of a MINI? Not at all.  Would it make it look cheaper?  Yes.  Again, I do seriously doubt that many of the changes will make it into the final design.  After spending all the money on the tooling for the current bonnet, I can&#39;t seem them getting rid of it.  Yes, it&#39;s an expensive part to make, but it was an expensive part to design also. And why use all the expensive parts on a car which is nothing more than a test mule?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Gabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2004 15:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Much of what&#039;s in the article is indeed correct.  However most of everyone&#039;s concerns are totally unfounded.  I&#039;d remind everyone that these exact comments were said when the current MINI was at this stage.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Things will be fine.  The car will be faster.  The car will handle well.  The car will look much better than the photo above.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Don&#039;t take the above image too seriously.  AutoExpress has a habit of poor PhotoShop jobs... this is certainly another. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I almost didn&#039;t even post the image since I know many people just comment on that without really reading the article.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much of what&#39;s in the article is indeed correct.  However most of everyone&#39;s concerns are totally unfounded.  I&#39;d remind everyone that these exact comments were said when the current MINI was at this stage.  </p>

<p>Things will be fine.  The car will be faster.  The car will handle well.  The car will look much better than the photo above.</p>

<p>Don&#39;t take the above image too seriously.  AutoExpress has a habit of poor PhotoShop jobs&#8230; this is certainly another. </p>

<p>I almost didn&#39;t even post the image since I know many people just comment on that without really reading the article.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: SuperCharged</title>
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		<dc:creator>SuperCharged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2004 13:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I can&#039;t believe how many people are getting all stressed out because of a photoshop job and information which is nowhere near official. That picture was drawm from a description that someone told someone. Aside from that, sometimes they do a nasty job for testing purposes and then they change it completely for the final product. The truth is, no one can be sure what it&#039;s going to look like, that pic might be way off... just got to wait and see...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#39;t believe how many people are getting all stressed out because of a photoshop job and information which is nowhere near official. That picture was drawm from a description that someone told someone. Aside from that, sometimes they do a nasty job for testing purposes and then they change it completely for the final product. The truth is, no one can be sure what it&#39;s going to look like, that pic might be way off&#8230; just got to wait and see&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Tavis1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tavis1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2004 09:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Pure fugly! period&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pure fugly! period</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rollin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rollin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2004 08:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢m with Ron, the item that concerns me most is the lengthening of the chase. Can someone with car design knowledge tell me if this will change the handling? And, has anyone heard if the &quot;high-performance&quot; multi-link rear suspension will be as good in light of the reported manufacturing cost cutting?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢m with Ron, the item that concerns me most is the lengthening of the chase. Can someone with car design knowledge tell me if this will change the handling? And, has anyone heard if the &#8220;high-performance&#8221; multi-link rear suspension will be as good in light of the reported manufacturing cost cutting?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: me</title>
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		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2004 06:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ya&#039;ll need some downers, take a deep breath and realise the source.  AutoExpress.  When was AutoExpress right about anything?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya&#39;ll need some downers, take a deep breath and realise the source.  AutoExpress.  When was AutoExpress right about anything?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: SrBlanco</title>
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		<dc:creator>SrBlanco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2004 06:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is anybody else upset about the loss of the supercharger on the S?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is anybody else upset about the loss of the supercharger on the S?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: flyboy2160</title>
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		<dc:creator>flyboy2160</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2004 06:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;this stupid ugly mess is what happens when incompetents try to take over something brilliant. it&#039;s right out of the fountainhead:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;-making the base car larger is a large mistake by non-car bean heads. they may sell a few more, but the weight must go up. WE DON&quot;T WANT A GOLF, YOU BMW FOOLS.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;-why should everybody now have to suffer a large tire to well gap because a few blingheads want larger wheels? let the blingheads shell out for custom wells, not us.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;-the bumper strip ruins the line of the side of the car.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;-the ugle twin headlights are a stupid excercise in change for change&#039;s sake.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;-the autoexpress article is incorrect about the pedestrian nannymobile standards. you don&#039;t have to change the car UNLESS you are making a substantial change to the model. so they could have and should have left well enough alone&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;-at this rate, the miata nc is looking more and more attractive. reportedly, they have returned to their roots with a simple, small, lightweight, moderately powered car. at least there are still some car guys left....&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this stupid ugly mess is what happens when incompetents try to take over something brilliant. it&#39;s right out of the fountainhead:</p>

<p>-making the base car larger is a large mistake by non-car bean heads. they may sell a few more, but the weight must go up. WE DON&#8221;T WANT A GOLF, YOU BMW FOOLS.</p>

<p>-why should everybody now have to suffer a large tire to well gap because a few blingheads want larger wheels? let the blingheads shell out for custom wells, not us.</p>

<p>-the bumper strip ruins the line of the side of the car.</p>

<p>-the ugle twin headlights are a stupid excercise in change for change&#39;s sake.</p>

<p>-the autoexpress article is incorrect about the pedestrian nannymobile standards. you don&#39;t have to change the car UNLESS you are making a substantial change to the model. so they could have and should have left well enough alone</p>

<p>-at this rate, the miata nc is looking more and more attractive. reportedly, they have returned to their roots with a simple, small, lightweight, moderately powered car. at least there are still some car guys left&#8230;.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Melanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2004 06:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Eeeek!  I thought Halloween was over...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Although, I would like to see the MINI Moke revived, but with a more rigid roof frame and better looking softtop - something a bit more stylin&#039; that would still be a head-turner (and elicit grins, not gasps).&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eeeek!  I thought Halloween was over&#8230;</p>

<p>Although, I would like to see the MINI Moke revived, but with a more rigid roof frame and better looking softtop &#8211; something a bit more stylin&#39; that would still be a head-turner (and elicit grins, not gasps).</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Sparky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sparky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2004 05:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Moving away from round headlights is a mistake - though a common one.  911: moved away - now back.  Jeep CJ/Wrangler?  Ditto.  Volvo 240:  very cool with 2 round headlights (1975), less cool with 4 round headlights (1978), BORING with rectangular lights (1981-on).  Remember the cool-looking original Isuzu Trooper?  Round headlights - very cool.  How&#039;d they kill the coolness of the Trooper?  Yep: squared-off headlights.  VW GTI: what model was better looking than the round-light second generation?  Mercedes biggest design victory EVER: round headlights on the 300 a few years ago.  It seems like the car designers would figure this out.  The only reason to un-round the Mini lights is to round them again in a few years to bump sales.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moving away from round headlights is a mistake &#8211; though a common one.  911: moved away &#8211; now back.  Jeep CJ/Wrangler?  Ditto.  Volvo 240:  very cool with 2 round headlights (1975), less cool with 4 round headlights (1978), BORING with rectangular lights (1981-on).  Remember the cool-looking original Isuzu Trooper?  Round headlights &#8211; very cool.  How&#39;d they kill the coolness of the Trooper?  Yep: squared-off headlights.  VW GTI: what model was better looking than the round-light second generation?  Mercedes biggest design victory EVER: round headlights on the 300 a few years ago.  It seems like the car designers would figure this out.  The only reason to un-round the Mini lights is to round them again in a few years to bump sales.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Gabe</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/11/24/twin-lamp_shock_for_new_mini/comment-page-1/#comment-13838</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2004 04:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;140hp engine will be part of the next MINI and will be introduced in late 2006 as a 2007 model. The 2006 MINI will be pretty much the same to the 2005.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>140hp engine will be part of the next MINI and will be introduced in late 2006 as a 2007 model. The 2006 MINI will be pretty much the same to the 2005.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/11/24/twin-lamp_shock_for_new_mini/comment-page-1/#comment-13837</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2004 03:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why are the Germans so busy bangling all their design work...  Mercedes, Audi, VW, and BMW are all throwing everything right down the toilet for the sake of... of... what again?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The new Audi&#039;s all look they&#039;ve been punched in the mug and given a swollen lower lip...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are the Germans so busy bangling all their design work&#8230;  Mercedes, Audi, VW, and BMW are all throwing everything right down the toilet for the sake of&#8230; of&#8230; what again?</p>

<p>The new Audi&#39;s all look they&#39;ve been punched in the mug and given a swollen lower lip&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Pete Foglia</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/11/24/twin-lamp_shock_for_new_mini/comment-page-1/#comment-13836</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Foglia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2004 00:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OMG, would SOMEONE please hire Chris Bangle away from BMW, like Hyundai or KIA!  Make him an offer he can&#039;t refuse! I&#039;m actually waiting for the Wolsely rear end to return to the lineup next!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG, would SOMEONE please hire Chris Bangle away from BMW, like Hyundai or KIA!  Make him an offer he can&#39;t refuse! I&#39;m actually waiting for the Wolsely rear end to return to the lineup next!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2004 00:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m with you Steven. I think a 2006 6-speed 140hp Cooper, with shorter wait time and light 16&quot; wheels with the sport package, becomes a bargain over the pricier 163hp S with the heavy 17&quot; wheels in the sport package. But I can&#039;t wait that long...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m with you Steven. I think a 2006 6-speed 140hp Cooper, with shorter wait time and light 16&#8243; wheels with the sport package, becomes a bargain over the pricier 163hp S with the heavy 17&#8243; wheels in the sport package. But I can&#39;t wait that long&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/11/24/twin-lamp_shock_for_new_mini/comment-page-1/#comment-13834</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2004 00:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I can only hope that the four-eyed look will not come as standard and will be an option for those who want to make their Mini a bit meaner...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As posted in January 2004:
http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/01/04/TheMINIGetsAPrince
a 140hp R50 (current-model) Cooper is planned for 2006, if this would be the case I see no reason to wait for the R56...but can anyone confirm this information???&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can only hope that the four-eyed look will not come as standard and will be an option for those who want to make their Mini a bit meaner&#8230;</p>

<p>As posted in January 2004:
<a href="http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/01/04/TheMINIGetsAPrince" rel="nofollow">http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/01/04/TheMINIGetsAPrince</a>
a 140hp R50 (current-model) Cooper is planned for 2006, if this would be the case I see no reason to wait for the R56&#8230;but can anyone confirm this information???</p>]]></content:encoded>
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