Comments on: Official 2005 Rear Foglight Retrofit Kit http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/02/03/official_2005_rear_foglight_retrofit_kit/ MotoringFile | MINI news, reviews and opinion. MINI Cooper, Cooper S, Clubman, Countryman Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:14:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: David http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/02/03/official_2005_rear_foglight_retrofit_kit/comment-page-1/#comment-32135 David Mon, 20 Feb 2006 17:22:20 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/02/03/#comment-32135 <p>I too am having the same problem with my dealer (MINI Woodbridge).</p> <p>When I ordered my car I choose the fog lights (front and rear) - when I took deliver of the car I was told that the fog light hadn't been installed and that they would be by the dealer - the following week.</p> <p>After 9 months of fighting with them - they insist that the rear ones can not be installed - I have told them the part numbers and have shown them the bulletin. They shrug the bulletin off as "something found on the internet".</p> <p>I have had to file a complaint with BMW Canada - and to the day are still at battle with them.</p> I too am having the same problem with my dealer (MINI Woodbridge).

When I ordered my car I choose the fog lights (front and rear) – when I took deliver of the car I was told that the fog light hadn’t been installed and that they would be by the dealer – the following week.

After 9 months of fighting with them – they insist that the rear ones can not be installed – I have told them the part numbers and have shown them the bulletin. They shrug the bulletin off as “something found on the internet”.

I have had to file a complaint with BMW Canada – and to the day are still at battle with them.

]]> By: Gabe http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/02/03/official_2005_rear_foglight_retrofit_kit/comment-page-1/#comment-16271 Gabe Thu, 10 Feb 2005 03:27:36 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/02/03/#comment-16271 <p>I'd recommend printing the bulletin and bringing it into the dealer.</p> I’d recommend printing the bulletin and bringing it into the dealer.

]]> By: MsBrit http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/02/03/official_2005_rear_foglight_retrofit_kit/comment-page-1/#comment-16270 MsBrit Thu, 10 Feb 2005 03:25:46 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/02/03/#comment-16270 <p>I called my Mini Dealer yesterday to see about getting the rear fog light installed in my O5 MCSC(I have a 11/04 build-date)- evidently they didn't get the update on the 05 retro-fit as they acted like they didn't know what I was talking about. I told them about the letter posted on this site, but I still couldn't get a straight answer out of them. Anyone else having this problem ?</p> I called my Mini Dealer yesterday to see about getting the rear fog light installed in my O5 MCSC(I have a 11/04 build-date)- evidently they didn’t get the update on the 05 retro-fit as they acted like they didn’t know what I was talking about. I told them about the letter posted on this site, but I still couldn’t get a straight answer out of them. Anyone else having this problem ?

]]> By: Matt D. http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/02/03/official_2005_rear_foglight_retrofit_kit/comment-page-1/#comment-16269 Matt D. Thu, 10 Feb 2005 01:29:31 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/02/03/#comment-16269 <p>I was in for service for another reason, so I had them check the wiring harness for me, as I had a 10/04 MINI with a TD9xxx VIN, and was unsure (like some here) if the letter mattered.</p> <p>It turns out that the 'D' is, in fact, significant. Mine was not pre-wired.</p> I was in for service for another reason, so I had them check the wiring harness for me, as I had a 10/04 MINI with a TD9xxx VIN, and was unsure (like some here) if the letter mattered.

It turns out that the ‘D’ is, in fact, significant. Mine was not pre-wired.

]]> By: steve http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/02/03/official_2005_rear_foglight_retrofit_kit/comment-page-1/#comment-16268 steve Wed, 09 Feb 2005 22:42:46 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/02/03/#comment-16268 <p>Same question for me. Missed the cutoff date by a week or so, my MCSC isn't prewired, so I need instructions/parts list for the retrofit.</p> <p>Thanks in advance, Steve</p> <p>"Does anyone have a parts list and instructions for a rear fog light retrofit kit for '05 MINI's that were built prior to 10-14?"</p> Same question for me. Missed the cutoff date by a week or so, my MCSC isn’t prewired, so I need instructions/parts list for the retrofit.

Thanks in advance, Steve

“Does anyone have a parts list and instructions for a rear fog light retrofit kit for ’05 MINI’s that were built prior to 10-14?”

]]> By: TJKonarski http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/02/03/official_2005_rear_foglight_retrofit_kit/comment-page-1/#comment-16272 TJKonarski Wed, 09 Feb 2005 22:00:35 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/02/03/#comment-16272 <p>Does anyone have a parts list and instructions for a rear fog light retrofit kit for '05 MINI's that were built prior to 10-14?</p> Does anyone have a parts list and instructions for a rear fog light retrofit kit for ’05 MINI’s that were built prior to 10-14?

]]> By: Howard http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/02/03/official_2005_rear_foglight_retrofit_kit/comment-page-1/#comment-16267 Howard Sat, 05 Feb 2005 23:17:08 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/02/03/#comment-16267 <p>Ok I check again today and it looks like a black wire that splits off into a V. I didn't see any connector or anything. So my question I guess would be, is it still possible to get the foglight, but now its going to cost twice as much since its not wired?</p> Ok I check again today and it looks like a black wire that splits off into a V. I didn’t see any connector or anything. So my question I guess would be, is it still possible to get the foglight, but now its going to cost twice as much since its not wired?

]]> By: Mike http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/02/03/official_2005_rear_foglight_retrofit_kit/comment-page-1/#comment-16266 Mike Sat, 05 Feb 2005 01:15:42 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/02/03/#comment-16266 <p>Howard,</p> <p>When I popped my cover off, I looked in the hole with a flashlight and in the back (on the left) was a (gray) connector taped onto the existing wiring harness. It was quite obvious that it was there and it was very easy to reach in and grab it. Thus, if you don't see it right away, then it's probably not there I'm afraid.</p> Howard,

When I popped my cover off, I looked in the hole with a flashlight and in the back (on the left) was a (gray) connector taped onto the existing wiring harness. It was quite obvious that it was there and it was very easy to reach in and grab it. Thus, if you don’t see it right away, then it’s probably not there I’m afraid.

]]> By: Gabe http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/02/03/official_2005_rear_foglight_retrofit_kit/comment-page-1/#comment-16265 Gabe Fri, 04 Feb 2005 23:26:53 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/02/03/#comment-16265 <p>This is probably as good a time as any to say that any technical instructions seen on MotoringFile are followed at your own risk :)</p> This is probably as good a time as any to say that any technical instructions seen on MotoringFile are followed at your own risk :)

]]> By: Howard http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/02/03/official_2005_rear_foglight_retrofit_kit/comment-page-1/#comment-16264 Howard Fri, 04 Feb 2005 23:24:26 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/02/03/#comment-16264 <p>I just popped off the black cover. I saw what looked to be 2 black wires. Is that what your talking about? I didn't pull them out, since I'm not a big fan of messing with parts I don't know what they do.</p> I just popped off the black cover. I saw what looked to be 2 black wires. Is that what your talking about? I didn’t pull them out, since I’m not a big fan of messing with parts I don’t know what they do.

]]> By: Mike http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/02/03/official_2005_rear_foglight_retrofit_kit/comment-page-1/#comment-16263 Mike Fri, 04 Feb 2005 22:38:53 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/02/03/#comment-16263 <p>Are you guys who just missed the date by a few days absolutely sure that the connector is not there? You should try popping off the black plastic panel and looking for the connector as I've read on one of the other forums that someone with an earlier build date still had the connector in place.</p> <p>If you look in the hole (once you've popped off the black plastic cover - I just lightly pried mine out with a small screwdriver), you will see the connector taped (with some light colored tape) to the main wiring harness on the left-hand side.</p> <p>It's worth a try I guess.</p> Are you guys who just missed the date by a few days absolutely sure that the connector is not there? You should try popping off the black plastic panel and looking for the connector as I’ve read on one of the other forums that someone with an earlier build date still had the connector in place.

If you look in the hole (once you’ve popped off the black plastic cover – I just lightly pried mine out with a small screwdriver), you will see the connector taped (with some light colored tape) to the main wiring harness on the left-hand side.

It’s worth a try I guess.

]]> By: Howard http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/02/03/official_2005_rear_foglight_retrofit_kit/comment-page-1/#comment-16262 Howard Fri, 04 Feb 2005 21:27:51 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/02/03/#comment-16262 <p>My convertible was built 10/9/04. How much does this suck to miss the date by 4 days. </p> My convertible was built 10/9/04. How much does this suck to miss the date by 4 days.

]]> By: Frank http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/02/03/official_2005_rear_foglight_retrofit_kit/comment-page-1/#comment-16261 Frank Fri, 04 Feb 2005 21:10:22 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/02/03/#comment-16261 <p>My soon to be '05 MCS will have the rear fog lights installed from factory ($100 option, much cheaper than dealer installed). I can't stand that ugly black plastic cover put in the middle of the back bumper. Aside from the safety aspect, I always wanted to have a fully functional 6 toggle switch panel.</p> <p>I originally intended to enable the rear fogs in my '04 MCS but got discourage about the cost of doing it at the dealer.</p> My soon to be ’05 MCS will have the rear fog lights installed from factory ($100 option, much cheaper than dealer installed). I can’t stand that ugly black plastic cover put in the middle of the back bumper. Aside from the safety aspect, I always wanted to have a fully functional 6 toggle switch panel.

I originally intended to enable the rear fogs in my ’04 MCS but got discourage about the cost of doing it at the dealer.

]]> By: SL http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/02/03/official_2005_rear_foglight_retrofit_kit/comment-page-1/#comment-16260 SL Fri, 04 Feb 2005 19:56:22 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/02/03/#comment-16260 <p>bummer. found out mine was built on 10/13/04</p> bummer. found out mine was built on 10/13/04

]]> By: RB http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/02/03/official_2005_rear_foglight_retrofit_kit/comment-page-1/#comment-16259 RB Fri, 04 Feb 2005 18:19:27 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/02/03/#comment-16259 <p>Frank...nice toyz...I may have to buy some.+++RB</p> Frank…nice toyz…I may have to buy some.+++RB

]]> By: Matt http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/02/03/official_2005_rear_foglight_retrofit_kit/comment-page-1/#comment-16258 Matt Fri, 04 Feb 2005 16:36:23 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/02/03/#comment-16258 <p>Joe - I'm with you on the VIN thing (my last set being TD94150). Does anyone have a VIN that is THxxxxx?</p> Joe – I’m with you on the VIN thing (my last set being TD94150). Does anyone have a VIN that is THxxxxx?

]]> By: Ian http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/02/03/official_2005_rear_foglight_retrofit_kit/comment-page-1/#comment-16257 Ian Fri, 04 Feb 2005 14:11:46 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/02/03/#comment-16257 <p>TJ, You are correct about installing a new switch panel. As to whether it is better to get your dealership to do it - it depends how high their set their labor rates. I have heard $200 labor to do the rear fog install!</p> <p>Joe, From the retrofit instructions it sounds like you should be able to remove the blanking plate in the rear bumper and check to see if the connector is present.</p> TJ, You are correct about installing a new switch panel. As to whether it is better to get your dealership to do it – it depends how high their set their labor rates. I have heard $200 labor to do the rear fog install!

Joe, From the retrofit instructions it sounds like you should be able to remove the blanking plate in the rear bumper and check to see if the connector is present.

]]> By: mataku http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/02/03/official_2005_rear_foglight_retrofit_kit/comment-page-1/#comment-16256 mataku Fri, 04 Feb 2005 09:40:33 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/02/03/#comment-16256 <p>matt - you can tell by your VIN. Look at the last 6 figures and you should be able to tell. wiht that said, it seems most likely that your car is pre-wired. Mine was built 10/19 and delivered 11/28. I doubt your car sat at the dealer longer than a month.</p> matt – you can tell by your VIN. Look at the last 6 figures and you should be able to tell. wiht that said, it seems most likely that your car is pre-wired. Mine was built 10/19 and delivered 11/28. I doubt your car sat at the dealer longer than a month.

]]> By: Joe K. http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/02/03/official_2005_rear_foglight_retrofit_kit/comment-page-1/#comment-16255 Joe K. Fri, 04 Feb 2005 09:02:38 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/02/03/#comment-16255 <p>I'm still not quite sure if my TD94408 is before or after the TH50468 cut-off vin for allowing the retrofit; i.e. is it the last 5 digits, or does it include the H? Any know for sure? Thanks.</p> I’m still not quite sure if my TD94408 is before or after the TH50468 cut-off vin for allowing the retrofit; i.e. is it the last 5 digits, or does it include the H? Any know for sure? Thanks.

]]> By: Frank http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/02/03/official_2005_rear_foglight_retrofit_kit/comment-page-1/#comment-16254 Frank Fri, 04 Feb 2005 05:57:04 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/02/03/#comment-16254 <p>I realize everyoe is discussing the rear fog light, however, I was wondering if anyone has installed or knows the 'good' and/or bad about the MINI-SPORT driving lights and mounting bar (which allows up to 4 driving lights to be mounted). I am just about to order an '05 MCS and cannot decide if I want the factory installed driving lights or if I want the MINI-SPORT driving lights. Any comments/suggestions would be appreciated.</p> I realize everyoe is discussing the rear fog light, however, I was wondering if anyone has installed or knows the ‘good’ and/or bad about the MINI-SPORT driving lights and mounting bar (which allows up to 4 driving lights to be mounted). I am just about to order an ’05 MCS and cannot decide if I want the factory installed driving lights or if I want the MINI-SPORT driving lights. Any comments/suggestions would be appreciated.

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