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Clear Photos of the Next MINI's Interior

While we’ve already reported extensively on what will be seen both inside and outside the next generation MINI, we hadn’t gotten our hands on any clear photos of the upcoming potential interior changes. Until now. Wheels20.co.za has now taken care of that issue with a full page of the same rough prototypes AutoExpress had already published in it’s printed magazine a last week. While there’s nothing new here that wasn’t reported on MotoringFile in our Next Generation MINI Revealed story, the pics do a great job of illustrating many of the reported changes. Check ‘em out:

[ MINI Cooper Interior (2007) ] Wheels24.co.za

For further detailed info on the next generation MINI’s interior, exterior, and new engine range, be sure to check out last week’s MotoringFile scoop: Next Generation MINI Revealed.

Note: The exterior photos also on the site are of a camouflaged testing mule and do not represent the next MINI’s exterior in any way.

Written By: Gabe




97 Comments

Matt Mar 29th, 2005 Link

not bad. pretty lukewarm on the center stack, and the 2 spoke though.

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Josh Wardell Mar 29th, 2005 Link

It certainly seems a little better thought out as far as functionality goes. It has lost some character though.

I really like the new speedo both and without the nav. And how cool is that old fashioned radio dial-like tuning bar on the nav? I hope BMW takes the opportunity to improve the Nav software too, it’s currently one of the worst in the industry.

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Ian Mar 29th, 2005 Link

Initial gut reaction – I like the narrower “streamlined” look of the dash.

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Gabe Mar 29th, 2005 Link

BTW – thanks Mike!

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Gabe Mar 29th, 2005 Link

If you want a sneak peak at what could be the new nav software on the MINI – check out the new BMW 1 or 3 series.

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Miles Mar 29th, 2005 Link

One thing that sticks out as an improvement to me are the cupholders that are brought out from under the console, to hopefully allow for some taller cups :-D

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mini vanilli Mar 29th, 2005 Link

looks like the interior of a small retro aircraft.

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Frank Mar 29th, 2005 Link

This is a more clean looking muckup. Not bad. i am glad to see the return of the 2 spoke steering wheel.

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tim Mar 29th, 2005 Link

its ok. a little dry for me. im just in love with my current 05 mcs i really like the 3 piece dash change for the 05.

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SrBlanco Mar 29th, 2005 Link

I am not sure how I feel about the center stack. It looks kind of plain and there seems to be to much non-functional “white space”. I guess that is just the nerd in me talking though.

Overall I like the dash style. It looks more aggressive and futuristic. I REALLY like the larger Speedo and the fact that they have integrated NAV into it. I always felt the the MINI lost something when the speedo was moved the the steering wheel to make room for a NAV system.

I was never a much of a fan of the two spoke steering wheel so I am pretty unenthused about then new design. Is it me or does it seem to have a larger diameter?

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You have got to be kidding Mar 29th, 2005 Link

Stick a cup in the cup holder and turn off your DSC by accident.

The interior looks like it was built with Legos by a 7 year old.

The exterior bulge around the back is hideous.

I was willing to give it the benefit of the doubt until more pictures arrived, but man, the only thing this MINI is going to have going for it is more HP.

I can see people loading up on 2006 models. They are going to be worth something after this monster flops.

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nrkist Mar 29th, 2005 Link

Agreed. Those who posted above as being “luke warm” about this design… check your temperature, people. Someone indulged a little too deeply in their early-70s-Japanese-automotive-interior fetish. Totally disconnected with the exterior. Check out those mitered joints where the center stack meets the dash… hello?

I’m not a huge fan of the current interior, but let us pray that these are bogus photos.

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mpez Mar 29th, 2005 Link

Nooo… I think I am going to be sick

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niggelig Mar 30th, 2005 Link

looks cheap to me, like an fiat of the 80th. dislike it.

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RednWhiteCooper Mar 30th, 2005 Link

quite possibly one of the ugliest interiors ive ever seen…. that crap rivals the dashboard from my old volkswagen!

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Gabe Mar 30th, 2005 Link

Okay – judging from the responses I’m guessing a few of you haven’t read the article from last week about the new interior and new MINI. Just to reiterate – these are rough mock-ups of the proposed interior. While a few of the details seen in the pics will undoubtedly change, most will be similar to what you see here.

And if you would like to know a ton more info on the next generation car (and its interior) read this: motoringfile.com/2005/03/20/nextgenerationmini_revealed

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ANTSMINI Mar 30th, 2005 Link

Anyone else notice that the CD player in the center stack has a DVD logo on it??

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Zack Mar 30th, 2005 Link

I agree with Gabe that the pictures are not 100% accurate as to the final outcome of the new MINI. However, I assume MINI’s corporate folks read boards like this, and I am not a fan of the larger speedo. It reminds me of Texas, where the general notion is to improve things by making them bigger. The speedo in my ‘05 MCS is perfect.

Other things I don’t like (again, judging by the latest photos only) is the placement of what looks like the hazard lights button on top of the speedo, the two-spoke wheel, and the J-Lo boot-y.

I know this is repeating some of things others have mentioned, but I have to throw in my two cents. If these pics are closely aligned with the final product, I may have look elsewhere when I go car shopping in the years to come.

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Zack Mar 30th, 2005 Link

Sorry about the bad grammar and a few missing words from the last post. After all, it is pretty late.

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nrkist Mar 30th, 2005 Link

“While a few of the details seen in the pics will undoubtedly change, most will be similar to what you see here.”

This is not making me fell any better…

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nrkist Mar 30th, 2005 Link

Sorry – this is not making me FEEL any better.

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JW Mar 30th, 2005 Link

It’s grotesquely out of proportion.

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Glassintrepid Mar 30th, 2005 Link

I new it couldnt be as drastic as the first photos. HA! We thought WE had a big speedometer!

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ben Mar 30th, 2005 Link

The standard pkg in my mcs is the acs+t(i turn it off, i dont like it), would you recomend the dsc, lsd. And will it make a big diference.

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Mark Mar 30th, 2005 Link

Are you sure this is not a Geo Metero with a big speedo and a Mini logo on the wheel?? They might be improving the quality of the materials used inside, but it look cheap. You would have to limo tint the windows and make sure no one was around when you opened the doors!

I really hope this is just a prototype! I would have to say, if this is what roles of the line, that would keep me from buying another mini. Maybe even selling the 2 that I have just from embarrassment!

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Rob Mar 30th, 2005 Link

Can’t say I like their direction as much as the current design but as long as the new dash and door panels don’t rattle like the current I could live with it. Hopefully they’re taking the rattles into consideration.

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ben Mar 30th, 2005 Link

First of all I agree, the speedometer is almost as big as de s.wheel, it looks like it has a large red screen on it(well for the size of that thing you can get wall-street tiker info). But I now why they did this, so even the guy three cars behind can see that you are overspeeding. Not good my friend, not good

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F.R Walter Mar 30th, 2005 Link

I like it, It’s Cool Jetsons Retro. As long as there is room for Astro. George, Jane, Elroy, Judy and I will like the entire MINI.

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ajigel Mar 30th, 2005 Link

“not bad. pretty lukewarm on the center stack, and the 2 spoke though.”

My thoughts exactly. I love my 3 spoke wheel, and that center console is iffy. I like the speedo, and the fact that they want it to house everything is great (I never liked the speedo and tach on the wheel with the navigation in the current mini). Its just that the AC/stereo/toggle arrangement looks a little weird. Still has that goofy “concept car” feel to it.

However, for the most part its nice. I’m reserving final judgement until I see it in person. After all, the Mini didn’t totally blow me away until I found myself sitting behind the wheel of one.

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ben Mar 30th, 2005 Link

I forgot, what seems to be the climate control, looks like its done with the mini logo, this is so if you, for a second turn your head from the wheel(wich is where the logo is and should be)and turn to the climate you don´t get confused, what was this? a hummer, my dad´s pacer, oh no, now i remember, there it is. sorry but I had to say it; not good not good

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Lee L Mar 30th, 2005 Link

I will echo the comments about liking the dash but not the center stack. Somehow the A/C, disc player and swithches do not match the rest of the dash and look fake/stuck on.

I like the steering wheel better than the current 3-spoke wheel. I have always liked the 2-spoke better anyway.

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Kurt Mar 30th, 2005 Link

I like the current 3 spoke wheel on my MCS 2005 better then the 2 spoke…

and the wood look just can’t compete with the silver look in those pictures… maybe they’ll come up with a better wood for production…

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Dean Mar 30th, 2005 Link

I like the new 2 piece dash. Seems like less to rattle and much more streamlined.

The instrument pod beneth the speedo is very clean and simple. Reminds me of art deco styling.

The steering wheel is not a good match with the interior.

the door panels are much nicer than the current on my ‘05 MCS.

The bonnet reminds me of a Mercedes. Not bad, not great either.

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Gabe Mar 30th, 2005 Link

You won’t be able to tell much from the spy shots they have of the exterior. They are the same ones that have been around for months now and are of a full covered and camouflaged R56.

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Nicholas P Mar 30th, 2005 Link

I don’t like it…it looks more like a BMW than a MINI…

the current interior fits with the go-kart theme…this new interior gives off zero go-kart feelings…it looks like they are trying to mature the car, when it’s supposed to be a kid…

the new speedo is too big, the 2-spoke is bleh and either has a larger diameter (so much for our tight go-kart steering, barely turning the wheel to turn) and/or is thinner (i like the beefy feel of the current wheel)…

the center area looks cool, but what happens when i want to put in my own cd player? or an in-dash carputer/screen?

the speedo is now way too big…any bigger than now is too much…

i like the 05 dash 1000x more…the only thing this has going for it is the cup holders further back…

and u DEFINITELY need a Whalen with that new shift knob…

it looks like an 80s 3-series with some silver and circles (and new stereo area)

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ajigel Mar 30th, 2005 Link

Here’s a question – what’s going on behind the steeling sheel on the right side? It looks like it might be the ignition (I’m thinking new 3-series here). I assume BMW would be updating it along with all of their cars, I just haven’t seen a clear shot of it.

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Gabe Mar 30th, 2005 Link

ajigel – that will be where the push button starting system is (similar to the new 1 and 3 series).

Everyone: If you want to read all the details on the interior and other changes expected for the next generation MINI, please check out our previous story: The Next Generation MINI Revealed (from last week).

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Sean Bancroft Mar 30th, 2005 Link

Please tell me that this is not how the boot is going to look for real.

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Gabe Mar 30th, 2005 Link

The exterior is completely camouflaged and doesn’t represent the form of the final car. No – the rear of the car (or the front) won’t look like the pics).

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Sean Bancroft Mar 30th, 2005 Link

Sorry…

Ugly boot pic

That is just straight up scary.

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Ken Mar 30th, 2005 Link

Not too bad for a handmade mock up. I don’t care for the silver buttons down the center. I love the idea of more legroom around the center console and the return of the two spoke wheel. I was wondering what the stick in front of the handbrake was for? I read the earlier story but still not sure witch gizmo it would control.

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05DSMCS Mar 30th, 2005 Link

I’m ok with it. I think the steering wheel needs to be a bit more beefy, looks a bit thin to me – I wasn’t originally a fan of the 3 spoke until I got my 05, and I like it much better than the 2 spoke now.

I agree that the speedo is too big, also. I think the size now is just right. Classy without becoming exaggerated.

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Nathaniel Salzman Mar 30th, 2005 Link

Wow, such drama. It entertains me to no end how intense some folks get when something new comes along. I love hearing everybody’s opinion, but these spy pictures of the prototype cars are turning into an episode of Dynasty. “Maybe this is the evil twin of the real interior.” On some of these posts, I feel like I’ll have to throw my head back and rest the back of hand on my forehead, and in a deep southern drawl declare “wherever shall I go, whatever shall I do?”

Makes me laugh, keep it up.

My reaction to the new interior is mixed. I agree that they’ve over-simplified the center console and not being able to swap out the head unit for the stereo borders on being just plain mean. Minimilist though I am, they’ve gone over the border from clean to over-simple on the center console. I second the “Jetson’s” comments and the discordance between the interior and exterior. It doesn’t feel british to me and I would like to see something with a little more character. The MINI logo A/C control is cute, but it’s not that cute. In many ways, it looks like simply an over-simplification of the current interior but it’s lost a lot of character in the process. Diddo as well on the two-spoke stearing wheel, I would much rather see a streamlined three-spoke.

That said, I don’t disslike it. I’m excited to see what the final version looks like. I hope they trim it out a bit better than what we’re seeing here. I’m also just thankful that they haven’t gone the Fisher Price route of so many Fords and Toyota’s with gigantic preschooler-sized dash buttons and seemingly palm-sized dials. I personally love the toggle switches and relative simplicity and cleanliness of the current interior. It sets the MINI interior apart in a great way from other cars. That will contiinue, changes and all, and hopefully the build quality will be such that it’s at least well put together even if not as pretty as it used to be.

Beyond the interior details, I also am not a fan of the bit of an ass they seem to have put on the car. I’ll be very interested to see what the final design accents on the exterior turn out to be. All in all, I’m personally more skeptical about the powertrain change than many of these stylistic adjustments.

“…of course that’s just my opinion, I could be wrong.”

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greg Mar 30th, 2005 Link

not sure how i feel about this much less the photos of the new exterior. change is tough when the current is so great.

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ChrisW Mar 30th, 2005 Link

Holy moly, the speedo is steering wheel sized! The thing has its own gravitational pull. No thanks.

Oops, allow me to rephrase: Please, please, BMW, make the new interior look exactly like this mockup. I want to keep my ‘05 forever, and an interior like this will certainly kill off any need or desire for me to upgrade in ‘07.

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Alex Mar 30th, 2005 Link

I think MINI will read all our comments and fix some things, hopefully the center stack! It just looks plastic-y and out of place, we at least need a black finish!

They weren’t planning on the clamshell bonnet or bonnet scoop for the next MINI, but they listened to us and decided to keep them – lets hope they do the same here!

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Brian Mar 30th, 2005 Link

Speedo is WAY too big. Not cool. It’s trying too hard.

Im sure the interior will look better when its done, but its getting too BMWish.

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dgszweda Mar 30th, 2005 Link

I don’t like the exterior a lot, but I can live with it. The interior though, has got to be one of the most hideous interior I have ever seen. It seems really disjointed, like they were trying to incorporate the old interior with a Z4 interior with the new 1 series interior, and in the process got nothing right. The speedo is huge. It is kind of like they took the bad things about the current interior and exemplified them in to this interior.

As for those who either laugh because of the strong posts or complain because we should reserve our judgement, are way out of touch. The last time I looked this was a blog/board on the Mini. The purpose of this site is to disseminate information and collect comments/discussions. If it wasn’t then Gabe should disable the comments sections. If you are going to post it, and solicit comments, than this is what you will get. So what if they are strong, and so what if they are prototype shots, not-production…. It is still very interesting to see them and hear people’s comments, both positive and negative on the evolution of the items. If all you want is mild mannered comments, and only when all the information in the post is 100% confirmed and in production, than you are looking for another site. Who wants to see a bunch of boring comments like “It looks interesting, I can’t wait to see a production piece”. I love seeing the spy shots, and I personally love hearing the comments. I think it looks hideous, but that is just my opinion. I like to hear some of the other people with their positive comments and what items they like. Maybe they point out something I didn’t see.

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KevinR Mar 30th, 2005 Link

My only question now is, do I keep my ‘04 model or try to get one of the last ‘06 models? Like someone said in a previous story, “it was fun while it lasted.”

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Gabe Mar 30th, 2005 Link

Personally, I welcome a good debate with well thought out opinions (for or against anything). The comments that I see as unfortunate are the ones that give us nothing but negative comments with no real reasoning behind them.

So if you love or hate the look of the mock-up – let’s hear why. For those that dislike the design – is it that you just don’t like change and you like the current car’s design? Are you uncomfortable with the size of the speedometer? Is the MINI logo designed into the HVAC controls now too obvious (compared with the current car)?

Let’s hear it – both good and bad. Hopefully the folks from MINI are listening.

And not to beat this to death but – if you want to read all the details on the interior and other changes expected for the next generation MINI, please check out our previous story: The Next Generation MINI Revealed (from last week).

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I said it before Mar 30th, 2005 Link

Gabe,

Put a cup in the cup holder and accidently toggle off the DSC or something else in that little cluster.

Why put important switches near such a heavily traficked section of the car like the cupholders/ligthers.

The interior looks like it was thrown together by different people with different ideas on what they wanted.

My 04 interior is not perfect, but at least it is consistent.

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Gabe Mar 30th, 2005 Link

I totally agree with you on the DSC button issue. I think that’s an example where the designers were trying to create a rally inspired interior without thinking of actual usability. I love the look but can only imagine the issues in real life with the layout. I would assume that will be caught in the design reviews.

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Damon Mar 30th, 2005 Link

UGLY! is all I have to say. MINI has not made one positive improvement visually. The 2002-2004 are the best. Too bad. they can’t leave greatness alone.

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RB Mar 30th, 2005 Link

Exterior is not my taste but who knows if this is just a mule?

Likes….New door panels, but looks like it looses some storage….some of the center stack….I wonder if that tall toggle-like switch where the mirror button is now is still the mirror button? Kinda goofy and breakable.

Do some of the steering wheels look really large?

Dislikes………..Exterior…… especially the trunk area, as shown….someone here commented JHo butt….I’d have to agree. That totally gets away from the original clean look, but it may just be a cover. The front end………well I’ll just have to wait. Hope the keep the S scoop.

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Mike Mar 30th, 2005 Link

All,

I’ve actually seen the new MINI in real-life and so I can tell you first hand that the exterior looks absolutely NOTHING like those pictures. The MINIs in those photos have a bunch of junk added on to them to hide what the car really looks like underneath. I’m under NDA and so I can’t really say too much, but I can tell you that you won’t be disappointed with the exterior of the car (from what I’ve seen anyway).

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Gabe Mar 30th, 2005 Link

“I wonder if that tall toggle-like switch where the mirror button is now is still the mirror button? “

As mentioned in the article we released last week, that’s the optional iDrive controller.

“Dislikes………..Exterior…… especially the trunk area, as shown….someone here commented JHo butt….I’d have to agree. That totally gets away from the original clean look, but it may just be a cover. The front end………well I’ll just have to wait. Hope the keep the S scoop.”

Again – that exterior pictures on that site (and eventually stolen and seen on Autospies) are totally camouflaged and do not represent the next MINI’s exterior in any way.

If you’d like to know if the next generation MINI will keep it’s hood scoop (among other things) read our previous story: The Next Generation MINI Revealed (from last week).

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petsounds Mar 30th, 2005 Link

Well, there’s not much reason for me to rehash the comments I posted in the previous article about this new interior, suffice it to say that these new photos have only cemented my earlier thoughts for me. Unlike Gabe, I don’t hold much hope that this design will be massaged significantly before rollout next year. It seems too far along in the design process to completely rethink the center console area. The best we can hope for is some sort of damage control. Just putting the console components in black instead of silver would be a big step in reducing the “look at me, I’m a gadget” feel it has going on right now. I actually like the MINI logo-shaped climate unit, but maybe that’s because I have the auto-A/C in my MINI. Unfortunately, the other components fight with it.

Things they can easily change: the shifter that has “sedate BMW” written all over it; the air vents that look like a cheap 70’s Euro model.

You know, I do still like the center speedo area overall, but these photos more significantly underscore just how huge it is. As I’ve said in my previous comments, it tends to fight visually with the steering wheel due to its large proportions. The tiny air vents next to it only exaggerate its domination of th e upper dash.

In the end, the overarching design criticism I have is that nothing flows anymore — the FrankenMINI, as I described it before. Not only does the dash have a different style for each section (upper dash -70’s retro, center console – Best Buy cheap techy gadget, shifter area – stodgy BMW sedan), but the lines of the dash don’t flow very well either. The major lines form this sort of stretched out oval with awkward lines stretching down to the floor..reminds me vaguely of a warped Infiniti logo. The problem area for me are the corner points where the curve of the upper dash meets the vertical lines underneath the speedo (as if the speedo needed another focal point to point it out). The lines just feel very 70s to me.

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Michael Burchill Mar 30th, 2005 Link

Is it me, or is the MINI’s interior moving too far in a ‘Buck Rodgers-esque’ direction? I don’t like the idea of integrating the stereo head unit into the speedo.

I’m also not a fan of the way the boot is shaping up… it’s too notchy and sticks out too far. The current car’s boot is better sorted, and ties everything together nicely.

Other than that, I guess it’s OK.

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KevinR Mar 30th, 2005 Link

OK Gabe, here are some of my thoughts when looking at the pictures:

Have you ever seen the sequel to a hit movie and walked out feeling like the directors tried too hard to top themselves?

The speedometer reminds me of a scale at an old grocery store.

The center stack wants too much to be hip, cool and retro all at the same time.

The shape of the dash reminds me of mid-’70s BMWs, but with none of the style or feel of quality. It also doesn’t seem to fit with a 21st century car.

The door panels look nice, but they do away with storage space in a car that is very short on it to begin with.

I’m not sure how someone is supposed to access the DSC, Sport and the third button from the driver’s seat, but I can see how they could easily hit them by putting something in the cupholder.

I’ll refrain from comment on the exterior until a non-camouflaged picture is posted. But I don’t think that making the car bigger is a good thing.

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renaultf1 Mar 30th, 2005 Link

The speedo is way too big as is the arse end of the car…Gabe, swear on your MINI’s owners manual that the rear won’t look like that…it looks like a Jeep or a Subaru Forrester.

The rest I can live with (oh, except iDrive).

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Gabe Mar 30th, 2005 Link

I swear!

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GSKChicago Mar 30th, 2005 Link

Okay, so when will the speculation of what we see in this and previous posts of yours be confirmed, denied or otherwise? I mean, when will the ‘07 actually be released to public view for ordering, etc., where we will see actual press coverage from MINI, etc.?

I would think they will need to start letting people place orders several months in advance like they did when the MINI came out in 2002… That said, late ‘05 they will release concrete data? Early ‘06? Can you say Gabe?

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rbm4 Mar 30th, 2005 Link

General design of the doors look ok but needs room for storage and the oval detail is too thin. The monotone door dosn’t work. The dash detailing is out of porportion. The overall dash shape has too much BMW influence. I they need to look back more to the original Mini and the current one and try and evolve the shape. Dash is a bit too serious. Speedos surround has too much mass around it. If it can be thinned out it might work. Center console: Poor use of space and porportions need work. I miss the tubes which I think is a styling cue that gave the interior character. The buttons by the shifter need to be moved. I’m sure they will be more improved mock-ups and these posts a a cheap way for BMW to gather comments on there work rather than paying people in focus groups. Looking forward to seeing more updates!

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Gabe Mar 30th, 2005 Link

GSKChicago – I’ve heard two timeframes.

(1) that production will start in the fall of 2006

(2) that the next MINI will debut at Geneva in March of 2007.

I’m hoping it’s the former personally. But of course MINI will have something special for us in regards to the current MINI for the 2006 model year to make you forget all about this “new” MINI talk and keep sales robust through the end of the current MINI’s lifecycle. I’ll have more on that next week though :)

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Nicholas P Mar 30th, 2005 Link

maybe the ugly markups are to get all of us to trade in our current MINIs (for them to sell certified pre-owned, no less) and buy 06 to keep the sales strong for the next year until the 07 comes along…

then they’ll make the 07 much better looking in order to continue sales for 07+ models…

it’s all starting to make sense now…

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johnsocal Mar 30th, 2005 Link

As much as I try to like it, I can’t.

I wont argue that the quality will be better, but it lacks soul.

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Nicholas P Mar 30th, 2005 Link

” wont argue that the quality will be better, but it lacks soul.”

perfectly put

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Andy Mar 30th, 2005 Link

Oh my, where to start? …I feel the dash looks very disjointed, like there are pieces stuck together that don’t belong. The air vents on the ends are a good example of this. The seam above and below are very obvious instead of a clean surface or line… The joint-lines where the dash meets the center stack are another example… The center speedo I kind of like. The data center could be a nice touch and it does have a sort of retro feel to it. However, unlike the current speedo that seems “housed” in the dash, this speedo seems to protrude from the dash like it was wedged in or is simply too big for the space. Part of this is, again, the use of seams around the top and bottom instead of smooth, flowing lines… The hazard button on top of the speedo looks like an afterthought… I like the idea of a simple slot feed for the cd player but the protruding silver(?!) head unit is too obvious given that the radio info will now be in the data center of the speedo. Why not integrate a clean, simple slot into the dash without the silver surround?… The “mini styled” climate controls are now too obvious. The current setup is much cleaner and understated. Again, instead of seeming integrated it looks silver plastic blocks were stuck on the clean black center stack background… ditto the toggles. Does there need to be a big plastic surround engulfing the toggle switches?… The new shift knob lacks character but I don’t mind the placement of the dsc, etc. switches. There’s really no other logical spot for the iDrive joystick as the MINI doesn’t really have a center console… I personally prefer a 3 spoke steering wheel. It is much more sport oriented. I don’t dislike 2 spoke steering wheels. The one on the 02-03 MINI wasn’t bad. This one is. The spokes are very thick, or tall, almost as big as the center of the wheel. Also, unlike the 02-03 MINI, these are more horizontal giving the wheel a very “boulevard cruiser” look instead of a sporty or fun look… All that being said, I don’t think the new interior is necessarily a disaster. It could be, if it looks very close to this. I’m hoping that because this is a rough mock up many of the seams, joints and “stuck-on” pieces will be more integrated and flowing in the final version. Making the center stack components black to match the dash would be a big help also… The current tach looks almost out of place among all the new pieces. Just my 2 cents…

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Allan Mar 30th, 2005 Link

Two words. Very BMW..

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joe Mar 30th, 2005 Link

Allan – I agree, looks like it is influenced by BMW style

the general contours make it looks more ‘mature’, not quite as fun as the current models

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Alex Mar 30th, 2005 Link

“Why not integrate a clean, simple slot into the dash without the silver surround?”

That would be a LOT better!

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Zack Mar 30th, 2005 Link

After thinking a little more about it, I still do not like the speedometer. If I needed Nav, I wouldn’t mind the speedo because it kinda works with the screen in the middle. But without the LCD screen, I see no reason for it to be the size of a basketball.

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Rocketboy Mar 30th, 2005 Link

I’m not seeing that center stack making it to production. It looks exactally the same as a rejected idea during the concept phase of the new MINI. I wish i had the pics, because they were actually on one of MINI’s websites (Canada, I think, but I can’t be sure which one), and I swear, it looks just like the mockup-mockup pictured above…

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schmoop Mar 30th, 2005 Link

I love my ‘02 Cooper and plan to keep it forever. There have been very few changes since ‘02 that I actually prefer. But if through some sort of tragedy I had to replace mine with one of these 2007 versions, the bottom line for me would be: is it still one of the most fun cars to drive?

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Bart Mar 30th, 2005 Link
  • I love the idea of incorporating the nav screen into the middle of the speedo, so I understand that tends to make the speedo bigger

  • I think the outer casing of the speedo looks to bulky/padded and seems to magnify the speedo size too much

  • I really love the (Hyper Blue) painted dash surfaces in my MCS, and I’d like to see more/larger painted surfaces on the new dash..I think it lets you experience the color of your car from the inside much more, and I think that is missing here (I see a lot of padding on the new dash)

  • I like the MINI logo climate control

  • I think the center stack is trying really really hard to be cool, and maybe needs to calm down some, perhaps by dropping some (or all) of the other silver shapes

  • c’mon, a joystick behind the stick shift for Idrive has got to be as awkward to deal with as a rotary cellphone ;p … why not a 4-way mouse button on the backside of the steering wheel (like the original MFSW-which I still miss BTW) -?

~ overall it looks like the roll cage concept of the current interior would give way to a more conventional padded plastic interior..

nevertheless, it’s STILL beats a Camry interior ;)

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mataku Mar 30th, 2005 Link

i agree with most of the comments: The center console looks very odd. Too much of the MINI logo put in there. First speedo with the vents mimic the look, then the non-nav speed has the logo at the bottom, then another logo with the A/C controls. Way too much in there, very overwhelming and tacky.

Also, there does seem to be quite a bit of wasted space in there. Lastly, I agree with the tubes comment, I really liked them on my current MINI, and liked the silver tubes, black center better.

what is that big red thing on top of the speedo though?

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mataku Mar 30th, 2005 Link

one more thing, i’d like to see less buttons and more toggles (for the DSC and such). Possibly on the headliner, that would be fun, although i’m sure many disagree.

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Bart Mar 30th, 2005 Link

You know, on second thought, they should just ditch the speedo altogether and make that big circle a giant analog clock… so when the big hand is on the 8 and the little hand is on the 6 you know it’s time to be at work…..

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Bart Mar 30th, 2005 Link

lol or is it the little hand on the 8 and the big hand on the 6 -?? I guess I’ll find out tomorrow……

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Gabe Mar 30th, 2005 Link

mataku – the next MINI will feature toggles on the headliner. Specifically near the rear view mirror.

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James Mar 30th, 2005 Link

There are two slightly different center stacks in those photos. The one with the nav is much better than the squared-off joint below the speedo without nav. If the speedo has the nav system, where will the speedo needle be, in the middle of the nav screen and the needle with move in front of the screen? It’s not clear.

I don’t mind the larger speedo. The two outer air vents look bad, though. And I will always prefer a two-spoke steering wheel, I sometimes like to rest my hand at the bottom where the third spoke is. I like changing the station and volume without taking my hands from the wheel, like you have to do with the Nintendo-style buttons on the front.

I have seen few changes since 2004 that haven’t screamed “cost savings”. BMW is definitely making the MINI cheaper to build. But then why all the wasted money changing an already great design?

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mini d Mar 30th, 2005 Link

I don’t know where to start, I see the dash of a 79 Corolla, mated to air vents from a 72 GMC pickup and the steering wheel from an early 80’s Buick Century and the center console looks like something one of my friends would have built in auto shop to put inside his Chevy Luv pickup. I really dislike the interior and the direction they are going. It has been said ad nauseum that it seems as though the designers are trying to be too cool and retro. I think they miss on all accounts. The speedo is over the top, way too big. The outside vents are too big compared to the center vents. I know that they probably spent countless hours in design, but I am afraid with the mish mash of shapes and contours it looks completely thrown together. I am not a fan of the MINI logo climate control either, it looks way too contrived, almost Disneyesque. My opinion is biased I am sure, because I love the current interior. They hit a home run when they designed it, and I think MINI is the first of the retro themed cars to find out the next generation of “retro” is not going to be easy to pull off.

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J Mar 31st, 2005 Link

I like the new interiors feel. The plastics look to be of a higher grade. It looks more like a BMW than the current MINI’s interior. I really dislike the new speedo. The current speedo has a much better layout. I really really hate the long digital display within the new speedo. It’s really ugly. The moving of more buttons to shifter area is really stupid. The current layout is perfect with the seat warmers located in that area but moving DSC from the toggle switch cluster would be a really bad choice. The button layout makes no sense and seems to make the interior look busy. I’m not really sure about the climate controls. The new door panel layout is also a little odd but the materials look to be made of higher grade plastics. MINI needs to be careful with changing an almost perfect interior. I could see a need for better materials and more storage but a complete makeover is not needed.

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StevieC Mar 31st, 2005 Link

I have to agree with most comments posted so far, in that I am not very fond of this new interior design. Firstly, the speedo is WAY too big. The current size is more than enough, this new one is much too overpowering – it looks like there’s two steering wheels!!

I also prefer my two spoke over this new design. It looks like a bad clash of styles, & nowhere near as sporty as the current 2 or 3 spokes.

The air vents look very generic and don’t match the character of the car, not like the current ones do. The outer vents are also much too large and have the effect of squeezing the dash (making the speedo look even larger again).

The new shift knob is screaming to me – replacement. The original one is much cooler, literally. :)

The new cup holders and shifter area of the satnav version looks like Mickey Mouse.

I also prefer the downtubes in our current minis

Negative space works great for creating beautiful, clean design, which it seemed they had with the centre console until they ruined it by putting all that useless, unnecessary silver all over it. The toggle switches don’t need the silver fluff all around. And the buttons should be retained as toggles (whether on the centre stack or around the rearview mirror), not placed behind the gearshift.

I don’t mind the MINI Logo styled A/C control, but don’t care for the earmuffs either side.

No iDrive, period!! (We don’t need another BMW model)

In fact this new interior looks much less sporty, a lot more over-designed, contrived & boring. And it poorly translates the cool exterior character of the car to the inside. All of a sudden my 04 rattles are becoming a lot less noticeable! :) Lets hope they’re just playing with us to hear our reactions and see what we really want…

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Gabe Mar 31st, 2005 Link

Well I can firmly say they aren’t “playing” with you. This is a true mock-up of the next generation MINI interior. I’d recommend everyone who dislikes it either try to get used to the new design and features or began taking really good care of your current MINI as it’ll have to last awhile.

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Bill Lawrence Mar 31st, 2005 Link

I like:

The new dash surface and the vents. That part looks better than the current MINI. It will look even better with chrome accents.

The door panel. At least the overall design. I hope there are some color choices other than the ones shown.

It looks like the cup holders are more fuctional. Heaven for bid if a car sold in the US has crappy cupholders!

The MINI logo shaped climate control system. It looks like I will have to have another option on my 2007.

The fact the the NAV system will have the center speedometer too.

I dont like:

the downtubes are not as nice as the current ones.

The non-nav speedometer seems way too fussy and hard to read. Center mounted speedometers need to be easier to read.

The gimmicky ICE in the center.

I-drive – keep that crap Bangled crap off our MINIs!

The new 2 spoke steering wheel, bring back the 2002-2004 one!

Overall, it’s acceptable and will still want a 2007 MINI when the time comes.

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Evan Mar 31st, 2005 Link

So, you may have to shoot me, but overall I like it. Yes, it is more modern, but not too over the top. SOmet items should be downsized a tad. These include the speedo- a size in between the current one and this may work, but MINI HAS to remove the radio readout from the bottom of the speedo. TOO BUSY. Also, the HVAC vents on the ends of the dash are disproportionately large. The new climate controls are cool and the toggles are great. They probably moved the DSC buttons out of there to prevent the dead spots among all of the toggles. It’s tacky to notice right off that you didn’t opt for an option with the blanks in the current toggle panel.

Everyone hates iDrive, but everyone is headed in this direction for nav systems and the like. Audi has its MMI and Mercedes will be showing its version soon on the new S Class. BMW was the first to do it so has the received the most critism- but it is improving and at least iDrive version 3.0 or later will be in the MINI.

One key thing is to make the downtubes more noticable and to make sure a large, black plastic background doesn’t surround everything in the center stack. Make it more compact and keep the storage underneath.

It is more modern, but reasonably clean for a mock up this early- we’re probably still at least a year from finalizing the interior. They want our reactions and boy do they have them. Right now it’s a 7.5 out of 10 for design and probably an 8 out of 10 for apparent quality in the mock up.

Keep the info coming Gabe!

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Gabe Mar 31st, 2005 Link

Very well said Evan.

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RoccosModernLife Apr 1st, 2005 Link

It’s okay, but I think there’s too much going on – too many different design elements, too many different screens, buttons, and shapes, in too many different places! Remember – less is more! :)

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bullrot Apr 1st, 2005 Link

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simon english Apr 1st, 2005 Link

WOW !! Thank you Evan for standing up for BMW and the iDrive, yes at first it was a pain ! but it has been improved 10 fold and it’s not by chance everyone is following. Please for everyone out there that jumps to the conclusion that the iDrive is awful, please take the time to try it ! as I’m sure 90% of you that say it’s crape just go off popular car journalist’s opinions! who, just so most of you know are 55 to 65 years of age and can’t program there own voice mail , yes it will take a week to get use to but it’s innovative . If not for BMW, Mini wouldn’t be around anymore… iDrive more than likely will only be a option attached with Nav, most of the people who have nav don’t use it , it just looks cool to have a TV screen in your dash ! lets be honest people. The dash is simple and I’m sure for those who don’t like the Pics once they see it in the flesh will like it and appreciate the better material quality.

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Andrei Voicu Apr 4th, 2005 Link

I hope this picture was released for April 1st.

This is ugly.

I am trading in my 02 MCS for an 05, but it doesn’t look like I will be doing that again, if this horror shows up as an 07.

Bangle GO HOME

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simon english Apr 5th, 2005 Link

Bangle signed a contract with Ford a year ago, he is head of design for BMW until his contract is up which is the end of 05, Mini had it’s own design team….nothing Mini has looks anything like Bangles work , also the iDrive was designed and Made by HK…learn the facts Bill and Andrei. Also everyone is following bangles work.God people see something they don’t like and bangle gets the blame…it’s not fair and it’s wrong !!!

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Gabe Apr 5th, 2005 Link

Simon – i appreciate what you’re trying to say, I really do. However i have to point out a few things. First off Chris Bangle did not sign any contract with Ford. He was promoted to design director of the entire BMW group last year. Secondly iDrive is not made by HK.

That said I agree that people should lay to rest the whole Chris Bangle design criticism. First off he has yet to design a single BMW. Secondly all the BMWs that have come out while he’s been design director have gone on to outsell their predecessors by wide margins (including the current 7 series)

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Ralph Jun 4th, 2005 Link

As an owner of a 2004 Mini I am very dissappointed in the new interior. It is ugly. Who the heck wants the LED info of the radio/CD in the Speedo. If something fails it will cost alot to fix. Right now the audio equip can just be pulled and replaced.

And the CD slot looks like some type of flying saucer or cat eye. I think they are trying to compete with SCION and the Young crowd to much.

I’m glad that they will bring back the 2 spoke steering wheel.

I have also viewed pictures of the exterior and while I understand some changes had to be made (European Ped Safety) the rear end doesn’t appeal to me.

If MINI brings in all these changes especially the Radio/CD interior then they have lost me as a return customer.

I’m sure glad I purchased a 2004 Mini. I don’t understand why the 2005 had so many of it’s options eliminated/cut down for the regular MINI (no 8 Spoke rim; which is a classic design i.e Mini Lites), Steering wheel option reduced to one, no bumper inserts, and in the interior the clock was made smaller and moved.

Everyone I know that purchased a 2005 dislikes what happen to the placement of the clock.

On the positive side for 2005 A Chrono pack option and the stand alone option for an Autodim Rearview mirror (without the Autodim Headlights. I wish they would have done that for the 2004 Mini.

While I understand that some changes are always done, it’s a shame they decided to make so many drastic changes. They should have kept the MINI in a Classic style.

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Gabe Jun 4th, 2005 Link

It all depends on how you look at it. I’ve owned a ‘02 Cooper and now an ‘05 MCS. While there are a few things I like about the ‘02 interior and exterior design, as a whole, the 2005 is really superior in engineering and functionality. And for my money, the design as well.

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[...] Later that same month a clear image of a somewhat more refined design model became available. In retrospect, this model is turning out to be a more accurate prediction of the R56 interior than even the concepts shown later in the year. It features such utilitarian items as the correct number of air vents, windshield defroster vents on the outside corners of the dash, cup holders, and a glove box. [...]

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