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	<title>Comments on: BMW/MINI to Buy JCW?</title>
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		<title>By: DINAN 3</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/04/25/bmwmini_to_buy_jcw/comment-page-1/#comment-151715</link>
		<dc:creator>DINAN 3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 01:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;CORRECTION / Dinan Warranty&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;After more THOROUGH RESEARCH, I come to find that Dinan is permitted to perform the work at independent BMW dealerships as long as they warranty their work.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That appears to be the extent of the relationship at the national level.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Partnerships are formed by Dinan with each Dealership, which seems to be very beneficial for all parties involved, INCLUDING BMW CORPORATE.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Dinan does BMW cars exclusively.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As far as the Dinan badge, The dealership permits it, and BMW doesn&#039;t seem to object to it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But the Dealership / relationship with Dinan could change, as BMW may  offer their own custom performance
 parts.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It will be interesting to see what the dealers themselves will do.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Can BMW force the independent dealers to sell ONLY BMW Performance parts ?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Perhaps not the EXISTING ONES.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But I can guess that new dealerships may have to sell the BMW perfomance line as a part of business.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We&#039;ll see.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As for me, I am happy with my Dinan upgrade.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Funny that no one at bmw told me this.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I thought the relationship was more involved at a national level.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Now I realize that it&#039;s up to the individual dealerships to call the shots as far as Dinan Work goes.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You learn something new every day.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So to say there IS a definite relationship with BMW corporate, is not accurate at all. ( Sorry about that )&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Still, Dinan is an excellent company with a great product.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I stand by Dinan and their superior performance products.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m proud to be a Dinan 3 owner.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CORRECTION / Dinan Warranty</p>

<p>After more THOROUGH RESEARCH, I come to find that Dinan is permitted to perform the work at independent BMW dealerships as long as they warranty their work.</p>

<p>That appears to be the extent of the relationship at the national level.</p>

<p>Partnerships are formed by Dinan with each Dealership, which seems to be very beneficial for all parties involved, INCLUDING BMW CORPORATE.</p>

<p>Dinan does BMW cars exclusively.</p>

<p>As far as the Dinan badge, The dealership permits it, and BMW doesn&#8217;t seem to object to it.</p>

<p>But the Dealership / relationship with Dinan could change, as BMW may  offer their own custom performance
 parts.</p>

<p>It will be interesting to see what the dealers themselves will do.</p>

<p>Can BMW force the independent dealers to sell ONLY BMW Performance parts ?</p>

<p>Perhaps not the EXISTING ONES.</p>

<p>But I can guess that new dealerships may have to sell the BMW perfomance line as a part of business.</p>

<p>We&#8217;ll see.</p>

<p>As for me, I am happy with my Dinan upgrade.</p>

<p>Funny that no one at bmw told me this.</p>

<p>I thought the relationship was more involved at a national level.</p>

<p>Now I realize that it&#8217;s up to the individual dealerships to call the shots as far as Dinan Work goes.</p>

<p>You learn something new every day.</p>

<p>So to say there IS a definite relationship with BMW corporate, is not accurate at all. ( Sorry about that )</p>

<p>Still, Dinan is an excellent company with a great product.</p>

<p>I stand by Dinan and their superior performance products.</p>

<p>I&#8217;m proud to be a Dinan 3 owner.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: MotoringFile &#187; Archive &#187; BMW Acquires John Cooper Works Brand</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/04/25/bmwmini_to_buy_jcw/comment-page-1/#comment-69583</link>
		<dc:creator>MotoringFile &#187; Archive &#187; BMW Acquires John Cooper Works Brand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] As we reported way back in the spring of 2005, BMW has been working on bringing the JCW brand completely in house. As of today, that&#8217;s just what BMW has done.Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â  According toÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â a report onÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â Forbes.com, BMW and MINI have aquired the rights to the John Cooper Works brand in a deal signed yesterday.Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â The move brings &#8220;JCW&#8221; one step closer to becoming the the MINI equivalent of BMW&#8217;s in-house ///M brand. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As we reported way back in the spring of 2005, BMW has been working on bringing the JCW brand completely in house. As of today, that&#8217;s just what BMW has done.Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â  According toÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â a report onÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â Forbes.com, BMW and MINI have aquired the rights to the John Cooper Works brand in a deal signed yesterday.Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â The move brings &#8220;JCW&#8221; one step closer to becoming the the MINI equivalent of BMW&#8217;s in-house ///M brand. [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: CHRISTIAN MEYER</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/04/25/bmwmini_to_buy_jcw/comment-page-1/#comment-63557</link>
		<dc:creator>CHRISTIAN MEYER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;HEY!. WHY DONÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´T INVITE MINI MANIA (FROM USA) FOR THE AFTERMARKET PARTS? THEY SEEM TO BE AFFORDABLE AND THE 
PRODUCTS FIRST RATE. I OWNN A 210 STAGE 2 KIT ON MY MCS AND IT GOES BALLISTIC...MAYBE MORE THAN THE 214 JCW. THEY ARE RELIABLE AND VERY PROFESSIONAL.. BUT MAYBE THEY DONÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´T SPEAK GERMAN!!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HEY!. WHY DONÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´T INVITE MINI MANIA (FROM USA) FOR THE AFTERMARKET PARTS? THEY SEEM TO BE AFFORDABLE AND THE 
PRODUCTS FIRST RATE. I OWNN A 210 STAGE 2 KIT ON MY MCS AND IT GOES BALLISTIC&#8230;MAYBE MORE THAN THE 214 JCW. THEY ARE RELIABLE AND VERY PROFESSIONAL.. BUT MAYBE THEY DONÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´T SPEAK GERMAN!!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: MotoringFile &#187; Archive &#187; John Cooper Garage Closes Shop</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/04/25/bmwmini_to_buy_jcw/comment-page-1/#comment-44264</link>
		<dc:creator>MotoringFile &#187; Archive &#187; John Cooper Garage Closes Shop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 13:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] John Cooper Garages, the shop and dealership owned by Mike Cooper that has become the spiritual home of all JCW products is reportedly closing it&#8217;s doors. It&#8217;s unclear how much this has to do with Mike Cooper selling the rights to the John Cooper Challenge (now called the MINI Challenge) or partnering with BMW to offer the JCW kit at the factory. It&#8217;s also interesting to read this in light of rumors we ran last year saying that BMW was considering buying JCW name. We know that BMW is developing the next JCW kit in house and with resources from within BMW and MINI rather than working with JCG. We also know that demand for the current, dealer installed JCW kit has fallen off dramatically since it became a factory option. It seems to make sense but we have yet to confirm any specifics. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] John Cooper Garages, the shop and dealership owned by Mike Cooper that has become the spiritual home of all JCW products is reportedly closing it&#8217;s doors. It&#8217;s unclear how much this has to do with Mike Cooper selling the rights to the John Cooper Challenge (now called the MINI Challenge) or partnering with BMW to offer the JCW kit at the factory. It&#8217;s also interesting to read this in light of rumors we ran last year saying that BMW was considering buying JCW name. We know that BMW is developing the next JCW kit in house and with resources from within BMW and MINI rather than working with JCG. We also know that demand for the current, dealer installed JCW kit has fallen off dramatically since it became a factory option. It seems to make sense but we have yet to confirm any specifics. [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: RC</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/04/25/bmwmini_to_buy_jcw/comment-page-1/#comment-43768</link>
		<dc:creator>RC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 17:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;JCW own the &#039;Cooper&#039; name. They allowed BMW to use it for the MINI. I think this is what BMW might be after.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t think the article implies a &#039;M&#039; version of the MINI. It just states that JCW would join the Motorsport division.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I hope Mike Cooper retains these rights, continues their R&amp;D and allows BMW to put these parts in the MINI.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;MINI is NOT a BMW!!!!!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JCW own the &#8216;Cooper&#8217; name. They allowed BMW to use it for the MINI. I think this is what BMW might be after.</p>

<p>I don&#8217;t think the article implies a &#8216;M&#8217; version of the MINI. It just states that JCW would join the Motorsport division.</p>

<p>I hope Mike Cooper retains these rights, continues their R&amp;D and allows BMW to put these parts in the MINI.</p>

<p>MINI is NOT a BMW!!!!!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: MGear</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/04/25/bmwmini_to_buy_jcw/comment-page-1/#comment-19474</link>
		<dc:creator>MGear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;BMW could simply reach a &quot;licensing Agreement&quot; with JCW that would allow BMW to develop, badge and sell JCW components on factory Mini&#039;s. BMW wouldn&#039;t have to purchase any phsysical plant from JCW and JCW could go on doing what they have always done. The agreement could go far enough to give JCW &quot;approval rights&quot; to what there name is going to be used on as well as desgin and engineering involvement. This would also provide JCW with a fabulous cash flow position taking in royalties from a broader product line that BMW is responsible for, not to mention the increase in sales would have an enormous impact on royalties to JCW. Go for it John Cooper Works, everyone is a winner with this scenario!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BMW could simply reach a &#8220;licensing Agreement&#8221; with JCW that would allow BMW to develop, badge and sell JCW components on factory Mini&#8217;s. BMW wouldn&#8217;t have to purchase any phsysical plant from JCW and JCW could go on doing what they have always done. The agreement could go far enough to give JCW &#8220;approval rights&#8221; to what there name is going to be used on as well as desgin and engineering involvement. This would also provide JCW with a fabulous cash flow position taking in royalties from a broader product line that BMW is responsible for, not to mention the increase in sales would have an enormous impact on royalties to JCW. Go for it John Cooper Works, everyone is a winner with this scenario!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: jackorange</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/04/25/bmwmini_to_buy_jcw/comment-page-1/#comment-19473</link>
		<dc:creator>jackorange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 10:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;imagine a combination of BMW&#039;s M technology with JCW&#039;s... on a MINI....
OMG!!!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>imagine a combination of BMW&#8217;s M technology with JCW&#8217;s&#8230; on a MINI&#8230;.
OMG!!!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Gabe</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/04/25/bmwmini_to_buy_jcw/comment-page-1/#comment-19472</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2005 05:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As I mentioned previously, Dinan warranties their products through DInan authorized dealers - some of which are also MINI dealers.  Remember that dealers are independant of MINIUSA.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Again, MINIUSA or BMWUSA look at Dinan as just another aftermarket parts company. This is something I&#039;ve heard many times over the years, from quite a few dealer parts department managers and MINI corporate folks.  If you have further questions on this I highly recommend calling MINI corporate and asking about this first hand.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I mentioned previously, Dinan warranties their products through DInan authorized dealers &#8211; some of which are also MINI dealers.  Remember that dealers are independant of MINIUSA.  </p>

<p>Again, MINIUSA or BMWUSA look at Dinan as just another aftermarket parts company. This is something I&#8217;ve heard many times over the years, from quite a few dealer parts department managers and MINI corporate folks.  If you have further questions on this I highly recommend calling MINI corporate and asking about this first hand.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/04/25/bmwmini_to_buy_jcw/comment-page-1/#comment-19471</link>
		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2005 18:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Gabe. What did you think about the warranty claim?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gabe. What did you think about the warranty claim?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Gabe</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/04/25/bmwmini_to_buy_jcw/comment-page-1/#comment-19470</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2005 00:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Greg - actually  I&#039;ve seen what Dinan has available for the MCS already.  In fact I posted something about it probably close to two years ago.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Greg &#8211; actually  I&#8217;ve seen what Dinan has available for the MCS already.  In fact I posted something about it probably close to two years ago.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/04/25/bmwmini_to_buy_jcw/comment-page-1/#comment-19469</link>
		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2005 00:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Gabe. I am reading a print off the DINAN website for MCS mods that states &quot;the S2 program delivers acceleration and handling that make the MINI driving experience the most exciting, without compromising drivability or warranty coverage.&quot;. And there&#039;s twelve pages of MINI performance mods. Check it out and give us your feelings.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gabe. I am reading a print off the DINAN website for MCS mods that states &#8220;the S2 program delivers acceleration and handling that make the MINI driving experience the most exciting, without compromising drivability or warranty coverage.&#8221;. And there&#8217;s twelve pages of MINI performance mods. Check it out and give us your feelings.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/04/25/bmwmini_to_buy_jcw/comment-page-1/#comment-19468</link>
		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2005 00:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Patrick, did I misunderstand your 4/25 posting stating that your MCS had a DINAN supercharger AND 2005 JCW?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick, did I misunderstand your 4/25 posting stating that your MCS had a DINAN supercharger AND 2005 JCW?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: chrisfb1</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/04/25/bmwmini_to_buy_jcw/comment-page-1/#comment-19467</link>
		<dc:creator>chrisfb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2005 04:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;the funniest thing is that i put a ///Mini badge on my MCS two days before this thread came out, i thought it will be cool to see a ///M mini which beats M3 on the autox course sometime.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I guess i should have work for BMW! yeah right!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think it is a good thing to have a ///Mini. they dont have to have it, but it will be nice to have it!
again, let&#039;s leave it to them!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the funniest thing is that i put a ///Mini badge on my MCS two days before this thread came out, i thought it will be cool to see a ///M mini which beats M3 on the autox course sometime.</p>

<p>I guess i should have work for BMW! yeah right!</p>

<p>I think it is a good thing to have a ///Mini. they dont have to have it, but it will be nice to have it!
again, let&#8217;s leave it to them!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mike aka ChiliCooperS</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike aka ChiliCooperS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2005 02:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I hope this happens, but like Ian said I hope nothing happens to the garage. I think it will be neat maybe M will help in designing some aftermarket stuff for the MINI??!!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Awesome Idea&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Mikey&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope this happens, but like Ian said I hope nothing happens to the garage. I think it will be neat maybe M will help in designing some aftermarket stuff for the MINI??!!</p>

<p>Awesome Idea</p>

<p>Mikey</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/04/25/bmwmini_to_buy_jcw/comment-page-1/#comment-19465</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;BMW&#039;s M division in Germany is separate to the assembly plant. The cars bodies are made in the factory and then sent to the M division for further fit-out. Hence if you spec an M-technic body kit or other mods, the M-people do the job.
This must be similar to JCW people working with MINI at the plant. This makes sense.
Down our way, dealers fit the JCW kits, and the job can be done by any number of technicians - I don&#039;t know of any specially appointed &quot;JCW expert&quot;. Which means you could get your gear fitted by some &quot;untrained guy&quot; reading the instructions as he goes. This may add to the bill and mistakes being made.
I would prefer my kit fitted by a guy who has done a few and can do it blindfolded, and considered and expert from JCW.
It is my understanding that the MINI Challenge Race series in Germany are having their cars worked on by BMW Motorsport division already.
I really can&#039;t see JCW being phased out - this would contradict everything about MINI heritage so far...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BMW&#8217;s M division in Germany is separate to the assembly plant. The cars bodies are made in the factory and then sent to the M division for further fit-out. Hence if you spec an M-technic body kit or other mods, the M-people do the job.
This must be similar to JCW people working with MINI at the plant. This makes sense.
Down our way, dealers fit the JCW kits, and the job can be done by any number of technicians &#8211; I don&#8217;t know of any specially appointed &#8220;JCW expert&#8221;. Which means you could get your gear fitted by some &#8220;untrained guy&#8221; reading the instructions as he goes. This may add to the bill and mistakes being made.
I would prefer my kit fitted by a guy who has done a few and can do it blindfolded, and considered and expert from JCW.
It is my understanding that the MINI Challenge Race series in Germany are having their cars worked on by BMW Motorsport division already.
I really can&#8217;t see JCW being phased out &#8211; this would contradict everything about MINI heritage so far&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I really don&#039;t think BMW would make an M MINI for the simple reason that there is already wide brand recognition for JCW when it comes to MINI. WHy would BMW want to fix something that ain&#039;t broke?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Even if M technology finds its way into MINIs they would still be better off packaging it under the JCW name. MINI isn&#039;t BMW, just like Lexus isn&#039;t Toyota. Owned by the same people, marketed differently to different audiences.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t think BMW would make an M MINI for the simple reason that there is already wide brand recognition for JCW when it comes to MINI. WHy would BMW want to fix something that ain&#8217;t broke?</p>

<p>Even if M technology finds its way into MINIs they would still be better off packaging it under the JCW name. MINI isn&#8217;t BMW, just like Lexus isn&#8217;t Toyota. Owned by the same people, marketed differently to different audiences.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Elliot</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/04/25/bmwmini_to_buy_jcw/comment-page-1/#comment-19463</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 03:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Those are certainly interesting thoughts about what precludes BMW from bestowing the ///M badge on a MINI...but certainly rules are made to be broken.....&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Just because there hasn&#039;t been a FWD or forced induction M-badged car in the past doesn&#039;t mean there won&#039;t be one in the future.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;BMW didn&#039;t make SUVs in the very recent past....the X3 and X5 changed all that.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Roundel suggests that BMW will shortly announce people-carriers to compete with the new R class vehicles from M-B.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I wouldn&#039;t make predictions that BMW will hold true to the past for the application of the M badge to BMW products of the future.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those are certainly interesting thoughts about what precludes BMW from bestowing the ///M badge on a MINI&#8230;but certainly rules are made to be broken&#8230;..</p>

<p>Just because there hasn&#8217;t been a FWD or forced induction M-badged car in the past doesn&#8217;t mean there won&#8217;t be one in the future.</p>

<p>BMW didn&#8217;t make SUVs in the very recent past&#8230;.the X3 and X5 changed all that.</p>

<p>Roundel suggests that BMW will shortly announce people-carriers to compete with the new R class vehicles from M-B.</p>

<p>I wouldn&#8217;t make predictions that BMW will hold true to the past for the application of the M badge to BMW products of the future.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/04/25/bmwmini_to_buy_jcw/comment-page-1/#comment-19462</link>
		<dc:creator>patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2005 23:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;um why is that last paragraph so huge?  thats weird&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>um why is that last paragraph so huge?  thats weird</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/04/25/bmwmini_to_buy_jcw/comment-page-1/#comment-19461</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2005 23:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There will NEVER be a ///M Mini for a couple of reasons. All ///M cars have to meet 3 requirements to get an ///M badge, they are:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ol&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;all ///M cars must be RWD--mini is FWD &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;they have NA/high revving engine&#039;s---MCS uses forced induction, this is a no-no for the ///M division&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;and of course they have to be manual (with the exception of the e36 M3)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;

&lt;p&gt;#3 is no problem but #1 and #2 pretty much exclude the mini from being an ///M car...i would expect something similar to the performance package on 330&#039;s or the competition performance package on e46 M3&#039;s&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There will NEVER be a ///M Mini for a couple of reasons. All ///M cars have to meet 3 requirements to get an ///M badge, they are:</p>

<ol>
<li><p>all ///M cars must be RWD&#8211;mini is FWD </p></li>
<li><p>they have NA/high revving engine&#8217;s&#8212;MCS uses forced induction, this is a no-no for the ///M division</p></li>
<li><p>and of course they have to be manual (with the exception of the e36 M3)</p></li>
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<p>#3 is no problem but #1 and #2 pretty much exclude the mini from being an ///M car&#8230;i would expect something similar to the performance package on 330&#8242;s or the competition performance package on e46 M3&#8242;s</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: 2nd MINI</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/04/25/bmwmini_to_buy_jcw/comment-page-1/#comment-19460</link>
		<dc:creator>2nd MINI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The one thing that concerns me in this is that an &#039;outsider&#039; perpective on improving the breed will be lost.  While I understand that everything JCW was tested by BMW, I had understood the germ of the ideas for improvements came from the works guys, outside the house.  Was I wrong?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Bob&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one thing that concerns me in this is that an &#8216;outsider&#8217; perpective on improving the breed will be lost.  While I understand that everything JCW was tested by BMW, I had understood the germ of the ideas for improvements came from the works guys, outside the house.  Was I wrong?</p>

<p>Bob</p>]]></content:encoded>
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