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		<title>By: Beamer</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/06/28/exhaust_popping/comment-page-2/#comment-908051</link>
		<dc:creator>Beamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2011 03:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This popping is one of the worst thing mini could have done to a stock Cooper S. Many people including myself think this is childish. If you want to make your car backfire (pop) you should have to upgrade your exhaust or something. I think this is going to be a big problem for Mini in the future. &lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;li&gt;Marketing 101 - 
*Make add ons for any item your selling (mini)
*Find your market and what they like (mini enthusiasts, young drivers and many people like the sound)
*The option (what to add some horsepower and make your Mini sound like original $1,265)&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Sorry, I am just fed up with the popping sound.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This popping is one of the worst thing mini could have done to a stock Cooper S. Many people including myself think this is childish. If you want to make your car backfire (pop) you should have to upgrade your exhaust or something. I think this is going to be a big problem for Mini in the future. </p>

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<li>Marketing 101 - 
*Make add ons for any item your selling (mini)
*Find your market and what they like (mini enthusiasts, young drivers and many people like the sound)
*The option (what to add some horsepower and make your Mini sound like original $1,265)</li>
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<p>Sorry, I am just fed up with the popping sound.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: jon</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/06/28/exhaust_popping/comment-page-2/#comment-328649</link>
		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 20:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m in the minority, in that I don&#039;t like it. It&#039;s not that it has to be a bad thing, but if anything, I would have preferred a more subtle &quot;burble&quot; than a &quot;pop&quot;. I don&#039;t know if an aftermarket exhaust would address this, but to me, the stock system with it&#039;s popping just doesn&#039;t sound right. As it is, I wish this &quot;feature&quot; could easily be removed.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in the minority, in that I don&#8217;t like it. It&#8217;s not that it has to be a bad thing, but if anything, I would have preferred a more subtle &#8220;burble&#8221; than a &#8220;pop&#8221;. I don&#8217;t know if an aftermarket exhaust would address this, but to me, the stock system with it&#8217;s popping just doesn&#8217;t sound right. As it is, I wish this &#8220;feature&#8221; could easily be removed.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Motorr</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/06/28/exhaust_popping/comment-page-2/#comment-40384</link>
		<dc:creator>Motorr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 18:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Amen to all those who commented and appreciate the warm and fuzzy sounds of engines performing as they were intended to. Every burble, pop-pop-pop gives me mondo goosebumps and makes me feel ALIVE!!!What&#039;s there not to like?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen to all those who commented and appreciate the warm and fuzzy sounds of engines performing as they were intended to. Every burble, pop-pop-pop gives me mondo goosebumps and makes me feel ALIVE!!!What&#8217;s there not to like?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: minigolf</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/06/28/exhaust_popping/comment-page-2/#comment-30360</link>
		<dc:creator>minigolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I love the sound of the 05 MCS exhaust. I wish my 04 sounded as good!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the sound of the 05 MCS exhaust. I wish my 04 sounded as good!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: garrett</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/06/28/exhaust_popping/comment-page-2/#comment-29692</link>
		<dc:creator>garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2005 06:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;anyone know who sells the &quot;single pipe&quot; exhaust system for an &quot;05 S and how it sounds?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anyone know who sells the &#8220;single pipe&#8221; exhaust system for an &#8220;05 S and how it sounds?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Lazarus 2025</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/06/28/exhaust_popping/comment-page-2/#comment-29439</link>
		<dc:creator>Lazarus 2025</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I for one cannot stand popping or whatever, makes the car sound cheap and defective. I have a 2003 and thank goodness it doesn&#039;t exhibit this. Call me strange but it&#039;s far too boy racer for my taste, and I&#039;m not conservative in the least. :)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Cheers.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;J\&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I for one cannot stand popping or whatever, makes the car sound cheap and defective. I have a 2003 and thank goodness it doesn&#8217;t exhibit this. Call me strange but it&#8217;s far too boy racer for my taste, and I&#8217;m not conservative in the least. :)</p>

<p>Cheers.</p>

<p>J\</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: greatgro</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/06/28/exhaust_popping/comment-page-2/#comment-21375</link>
		<dc:creator>greatgro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 21:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have an 03 and there was absolutely no popping under any conditions.  It sucked quite frankly.  I replaced my exhaust with an aftermarket UUC one and it burbles so much you would think my exhaust is having a complete conversation!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve test driven an 05 S and I must say I&#039;m glad they added the burbling so you don&#039;t have to get your own exhaust.  However, the stock 05 S makes more of a popping noise than a true burbling.  I would still probably change the exhaust on a new one.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an 03 and there was absolutely no popping under any conditions.  It sucked quite frankly.  I replaced my exhaust with an aftermarket UUC one and it burbles so much you would think my exhaust is having a complete conversation!</p>

<p>I&#8217;ve test driven an 05 S and I must say I&#8217;m glad they added the burbling so you don&#8217;t have to get your own exhaust.  However, the stock 05 S makes more of a popping noise than a true burbling.  I would still probably change the exhaust on a new one.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ramon-from pr</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/06/28/exhaust_popping/comment-page-2/#comment-21374</link>
		<dc:creator>ramon-from pr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;like really who doesn&#039;t want a little of backfire.. please its soi god damn beautiful. jaja. if u dont like it change ur exhaust!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>like really who doesn&#8217;t want a little of backfire.. please its soi god damn beautiful. jaja. if u dont like it change ur exhaust!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: LouiefromStLou</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/06/28/exhaust_popping/comment-page-2/#comment-21373</link>
		<dc:creator>LouiefromStLou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2005 04:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My 05 MC Cabrio makes the popping sound. I was told by my MA that all 05s were programmed to make the sound.So I don&#039;t think it&#039;s unique to the MCS.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 05 MC Cabrio makes the popping sound. I was told by my MA that all 05s were programmed to make the sound.So I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s unique to the MCS.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Kaelaria</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/06/28/exhaust_popping/comment-page-2/#comment-21372</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaelaria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2005 07:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;GIAC and MTH does not effect it, they both retain the timing pull on off-throttle.  They &lt;em&gt;could&lt;/em&gt; eliminate if they so programmed it though.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GIAC and MTH does not effect it, they both retain the timing pull on off-throttle.  They <em>could</em> eliminate if they so programmed it though.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Osmodious</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/06/28/exhaust_popping/comment-page-2/#comment-21371</link>
		<dc:creator>Osmodious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2005 06:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;How is this noise different from that nifty burbling you get on overrun with certain aftermarket exhausts?  I&#039;ve always kind of loved that...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is this noise different from that nifty burbling you get on overrun with certain aftermarket exhausts?  I&#8217;ve always kind of loved that&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: VoiD</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/06/28/exhaust_popping/comment-page-2/#comment-21370</link>
		<dc:creator>VoiD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Anyone know if a ECU reflash like GIAC will elimiate the noise? then I&#039;m not doing it. :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone know if a ECU reflash like GIAC will elimiate the noise? then I&#8217;m not doing it. :)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: sleepy-nokkie</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/06/28/exhaust_popping/comment-page-2/#comment-21369</link>
		<dc:creator>sleepy-nokkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I love the popping sound .. If I want a quiet exhaust car I would have bought the Accord or Camry.  Why nobody complain about the stupid cupholder?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the popping sound .. If I want a quiet exhaust car I would have bought the Accord or Camry.  Why nobody complain about the stupid cupholder?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/06/28/exhaust_popping/comment-page-2/#comment-21368</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My translation of the &quot;official MINIUSA&quot; explanation is.....
When we solved the surge/pulsing problem with the 03/04 MCS model years, we never could get the engine management system perfectly right.  Therefore, the fuel to air ratio is too rich on the overrun. (i.e.  3000+ rpm, in gear, foot off accelerator, coasting against engine compression).  So, we decided to call it an advantage for a bettter fun factor.&lt;br /&gt;
The new engine and turbo-charger in the 07 will not have the &quot;feature&quot;; because we can solve the problem with the turbo.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My translation of the &#8220;official MINIUSA&#8221; explanation is&#8230;..
When we solved the surge/pulsing problem with the 03/04 MCS model years, we never could get the engine management system perfectly right.  Therefore, the fuel to air ratio is too rich on the overrun. (i.e.  3000+ rpm, in gear, foot off accelerator, coasting against engine compression).  So, we decided to call it an advantage for a bettter fun factor.<br />
The new engine and turbo-charger in the 07 will not have the &#8220;feature&#8221;; because we can solve the problem with the turbo.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Goatherder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goatherder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2005 02:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I will tend to let off the gas in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, purposefully just so I can hear the acoustics.  Sure is music to my ears!  Wife thinks I am nuts though.....&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will tend to let off the gas in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, purposefully just so I can hear the acoustics.  Sure is music to my ears!  Wife thinks I am nuts though&#8230;..</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Long Run Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/06/28/exhaust_popping/comment-page-2/#comment-21366</link>
		<dc:creator>Long Run Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Coming from several straight pipe V8&#039;s to my 05 MCS I grinned when I heard the little pops. I needed more. At 1,000 miles addded a Magna Flow and a Pro Mini CAI. Talk about a Harmonic Convergence--the whine of the SC and the Basso Profundo of the Magna Flow &quot;Trumpets&quot;. SWEET. The HK rarely is on.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coming from several straight pipe V8&#8242;s to my 05 MCS I grinned when I heard the little pops. I needed more. At 1,000 miles addded a Magna Flow and a Pro Mini CAI. Talk about a Harmonic Convergence&#8211;the whine of the SC and the Basso Profundo of the Magna Flow &#8220;Trumpets&#8221;. SWEET. The HK rarely is on.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Melanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I would also like to hear someone compare the pops and burbles heard in the stock 05 MCS to the 05 JCW.  I have just bought a slightly used JCW exhaust (off of a 05 MCS Works car that the owner put a Borla Street on instead)and am waiting to get it installed.&lt;br /&gt;
Please tell me that I won&#039;t lose any of that great MCS sound if I replace the stock exhaust withe the JCW one!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would also like to hear someone compare the pops and burbles heard in the stock 05 MCS to the 05 JCW.  I have just bought a slightly used JCW exhaust (off of a 05 MCS Works car that the owner put a Borla Street on instead)and am waiting to get it installed.<br />
Please tell me that I won&#8217;t lose any of that great MCS sound if I replace the stock exhaust withe the JCW one!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: joeytheboxman</title>
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		<dc:creator>joeytheboxman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;love her &quot;backfire&quot; sound as well...but i  cant help but to wonder if this is adding a great deal of wear and tear on the exhaust?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>love her &#8220;backfire&#8221; sound as well&#8230;but i  cant help but to wonder if this is adding a great deal of wear and tear on the exhaust?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2005 03:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Strange I have an 04 MCS and switched the stock exhaust (super quiet, I don&#039;t really remember much if any burble) out to a Miltek cat-back, a JCW intake and a 15% pulley and definately notice more burbling with engine braking (no software change)... but perhaps it was there all along the freeer/louder exhaust just allowed to be more audible.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Erik&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strange I have an 04 MCS and switched the stock exhaust (super quiet, I don&#8217;t really remember much if any burble) out to a Miltek cat-back, a JCW intake and a 15% pulley and definately notice more burbling with engine braking (no software change)&#8230; but perhaps it was there all along the freeer/louder exhaust just allowed to be more audible.</p>

<p>Erik</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Kaelaria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaelaria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2005 03:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I did data logging and found the cause - on sharp off-throttle movement, the ECU pulls timing to -30 to -40 deg.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did data logging and found the cause &#8211; on sharp off-throttle movement, the ECU pulls timing to -30 to -40 deg.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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