Comments on: No Recaro Seats for the US Market http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/07/12/no_recaro_seats_for_the_us_market/ MotoringFile | MINI news, reviews and opinion. MINI Cooper, Cooper S, Clubman, Countryman Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:14:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: MotoringFile » Blog Archive » New 2006 Options for the US Market http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/07/12/no_recaro_seats_for_the_us_market/comment-page-2/#comment-27594 MotoringFile » Blog Archive » New 2006 Options for the US Market Mon, 07 Nov 2005 20:13:15 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/07/12/#comment-27594 <p>[...] We wrote about it last week but it’s probably worth mentioning again; the US won’t be getting the new Recaro seats (seen here) that will be available elsewhere in the world. [...]</p> [...] We wrote about it last week but it’s probably worth mentioning again; the US won’t be getting the new Recaro seats (seen here) that will be available elsewhere in the world. [...]

]]> By: Taylor http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/07/12/no_recaro_seats_for_the_us_market/comment-page-2/#comment-22284 Taylor Wed, 14 Sep 2005 01:51:02 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/07/12/#comment-22284 <p>I'm way behind here and just now catching up. I was also waiting for the Recaros, I've had them on a 325is for 15 years and they were great, really great. But with grey insets only, I agree, I don't care for them anyway. I feel sort of stupid that I did not order an 05 when I had the chance - and now the electric blue is gone.</p> I’m way behind here and just now catching up. I was also waiting for the Recaros, I’ve had them on a 325is for 15 years and they were great, really great. But with grey insets only, I agree, I don’t care for them anyway. I feel sort of stupid that I did not order an 05 when I had the chance – and now the electric blue is gone.

]]> By: BAR http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/07/12/no_recaro_seats_for_the_us_market/comment-page-2/#comment-22283 BAR Fri, 29 Jul 2005 16:44:47 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/07/12/#comment-22283 <p>Any chance a petition for the new seats would change anything? I'm sure we could get enough signatures to get the seat option. As well, a question for Gabe or anyone else in "the know", will the Recaro’s come to Canada? no DOT might mean they could slip through.</p> Any chance a petition for the new seats would change anything? I’m sure we could get enough signatures to get the seat option. As well, a question for Gabe or anyone else in “the know”, will the Recaro’s come to Canada? no DOT might mean they could slip through.

]]> By: Erik Cullins http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/07/12/no_recaro_seats_for_the_us_market/comment-page-2/#comment-22282 Erik Cullins Sun, 17 Jul 2005 03:56:30 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/07/12/#comment-22282 <p>I'm disappointed...I have a 2003 Mini S with the sport seats and hate them. I've dreamed of a more supportive seat and have toyed with after-market, but didn't want the insurance/legal questions.</p> <p>I planned on buying the new mini seats and swapping them...guess I'm going after-market.</p> <p>I'm just amazed that such a good handling car has such poor seats. Why again does the rest of the world get what we are also asking for. How tough is is to install a manual airbag bypass, if the sensor is the problem?</p> I’m disappointed…I have a 2003 Mini S with the sport seats and hate them. I’ve dreamed of a more supportive seat and have toyed with after-market, but didn’t want the insurance/legal questions.

I planned on buying the new mini seats and swapping them…guess I’m going after-market.

I’m just amazed that such a good handling car has such poor seats. Why again does the rest of the world get what we are also asking for. How tough is is to install a manual airbag bypass, if the sensor is the problem?

]]> By: Jim http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/07/12/no_recaro_seats_for_the_us_market/comment-page-2/#comment-22281 Jim Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:21:24 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/07/12/#comment-22281 <p>Scarlett- We must drive together sometime and I will show you what I mean by sloshing around in my seat. I love lateral g forces.</p> <p>Gabe_ No I have not sat in the new seats. Thanks for the heads up.</p> Scarlett- We must drive together sometime and I will show you what I mean by sloshing around in my seat. I love lateral g forces.

Gabe_ No I have not sat in the new seats. Thanks for the heads up.

]]> By: Chris http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/07/12/no_recaro_seats_for_the_us_market/comment-page-2/#comment-22280 Chris Thu, 14 Jul 2005 16:02:30 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/07/12/#comment-22280 <p>Yeah, now that I've seen the Recaro, I can't say I'll miss it that much. It's not that the seats are a deal breaker, but I just want something special for the last year, otherwise I'll just wait, maybe consider the new model. A factory Works package changes that though, that might be worth it if it's not overpriced. From the factory, even with the brakes, it shouldn't cost more than like $3900, and really it should be like $2500-3000. </p> <p>I wasn't aware the '05 sport seats are different, that true? I'll have to go check it out.</p> Yeah, now that I’ve seen the Recaro, I can’t say I’ll miss it that much. It’s not that the seats are a deal breaker, but I just want something special for the last year, otherwise I’ll just wait, maybe consider the new model. A factory Works package changes that though, that might be worth it if it’s not overpriced. From the factory, even with the brakes, it shouldn’t cost more than like $3900, and really it should be like $2500-3000.

I wasn’t aware the ’05 sport seats are different, that true? I’ll have to go check it out.

]]> By: Gabe http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/07/12/no_recaro_seats_for_the_us_market/comment-page-2/#comment-22279 Gabe Thu, 14 Jul 2005 14:50:00 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/07/12/#comment-22279 <p>Well that rational makes a bit more sense. While I don't agree with it, I can at least respect it. I just don't want there to be this misconception that the engine will be designed and built in France by PSA when that couldn't be farther from the truth.</p> Well that rational makes a bit more sense. While I don’t agree with it, I can at least respect it. I just don’t want there to be this misconception that the engine will be designed and built in France by PSA when that couldn’t be farther from the truth.

]]> By: KevinR http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/07/12/no_recaro_seats_for_the_us_market/comment-page-2/#comment-22278 KevinR Thu, 14 Jul 2005 14:02:06 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/07/12/#comment-22278 <p>Gabe, I'm not interested in the next generation MINI, regardless of who is the engine building partner. The advance shots I've seen here and elsewhere turned me off long before I knew the details of the new engine. </p> <p>The fact that the car will have a totally new, unproven engine designed and built in partnership with a manufacturer that has a suspect reputation in this country (confirmed in my own experience) only solidifies my feelings.</p> <p>And remember that BMW isn't exactly ding free when it comes to product offerings. M42 engine profile gaskets, early V8 engine blocks and the current 7 series issues are just a few points where BMW's engineering fell a little short.</p> <p>Finally, I don't have to be rational in my car buying decisions. If I were rational about it, I probably wouldn't have bought a car whose nearest dealer is 85 miles away.</p> Gabe, I’m not interested in the next generation MINI, regardless of who is the engine building partner. The advance shots I’ve seen here and elsewhere turned me off long before I knew the details of the new engine.

The fact that the car will have a totally new, unproven engine designed and built in partnership with a manufacturer that has a suspect reputation in this country (confirmed in my own experience) only solidifies my feelings.

And remember that BMW isn’t exactly ding free when it comes to product offerings. M42 engine profile gaskets, early V8 engine blocks and the current 7 series issues are just a few points where BMW’s engineering fell a little short.

Finally, I don’t have to be rational in my car buying decisions. If I were rational about it, I probably wouldn’t have bought a car whose nearest dealer is 85 miles away.

]]> By: mataku http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/07/12/no_recaro_seats_for_the_us_market/comment-page-2/#comment-22277 mataku Thu, 14 Jul 2005 06:25:18 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/07/12/#comment-22277 <blockquote>In my head, I was imagining the Recaros to be a lot more aggressive than the ones in that picture. I suddenly don't care so much that they're unavailable. I was considering trading in my '04 MCS for an '06 and I'm not seeing any reason to rethink that, especially if the factory installed JCW kits are still a go. </blockquote> <p>yah, I thought they would look really out of place, however, they don't look bad at all. But, I certainly don't understand all the comotion over these seats when they don't look that much better and i'm sure are expensive.</p> In my head, I was imagining the Recaros to be a lot more aggressive than the ones in that picture. I suddenly don’t care so much that they’re unavailable. I was considering trading in my ’04 MCS for an ’06 and I’m not seeing any reason to rethink that, especially if the factory installed JCW kits are still a go.

yah, I thought they would look really out of place, however, they don’t look bad at all. But, I certainly don’t understand all the comotion over these seats when they don’t look that much better and i’m sure are expensive.

]]> By: Gabe http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/07/12/no_recaro_seats_for_the_us_market/comment-page-1/#comment-22276 Gabe Thu, 14 Jul 2005 06:06:04 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/07/12/#comment-22276 <p>So you're less interested in an '06 if the JCW kits are available from the factory?</p> So you’re less interested in an ’06 if the JCW kits are available from the factory?

]]> By: James K http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/07/12/no_recaro_seats_for_the_us_market/comment-page-1/#comment-22275 James K Thu, 14 Jul 2005 06:04:19 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/07/12/#comment-22275 <p>In my head, I was imagining the Recaros to be a lot more aggressive than the ones in that picture. I suddenly don't care so much that they're unavailable. I was considering trading in my '04 MCS for an '06 and I'm not seeing any reason to rethink that, especially if the factory installed JCW kits are still a go.</p> In my head, I was imagining the Recaros to be a lot more aggressive than the ones in that picture. I suddenly don’t care so much that they’re unavailable. I was considering trading in my ’04 MCS for an ’06 and I’m not seeing any reason to rethink that, especially if the factory installed JCW kits are still a go.

]]> By: Gabe http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/07/12/no_recaro_seats_for_the_us_market/comment-page-1/#comment-22274 Gabe Thu, 14 Jul 2005 04:54:23 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/07/12/#comment-22274 <p>KevinR - I don't mean to be harsh here... but what you're saying is essentially: because BMW's logistics partner built a car 20 years ago that I had problems with, I won't be buying the next generation MINI. The first MINI with an engine built and designed by BMW.</p> <p>I understand bad 80's Peugeots... but I just can't understand that reasoning...</p> KevinR – I don’t mean to be harsh here… but what you’re saying is essentially: because BMW’s logistics partner built a car 20 years ago that I had problems with, I won’t be buying the next generation MINI. The first MINI with an engine built and designed by BMW.

I understand bad 80′s Peugeots… but I just can’t understand that reasoning…

]]> By: KevinR http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/07/12/no_recaro_seats_for_the_us_market/comment-page-1/#comment-22273 KevinR Thu, 14 Jul 2005 04:24:12 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/07/12/#comment-22273 <p>I entertained thoughts of trading my '04 MCS for an '06 (last of the model run...). However, with each new revelation about the '06s, I see fewer reasons to trade. There just doesn't seem to be enough difference to me...</p> <p>As to the 2007s, I'm not impressed by what I've seen so far and I have very vivid, very bad memories of a mid-'80s Peugeot. It's highly unlikely that I'll be buying one of those.</p> I entertained thoughts of trading my ’04 MCS for an ’06 (last of the model run…). However, with each new revelation about the ’06s, I see fewer reasons to trade. There just doesn’t seem to be enough difference to me…

As to the 2007s, I’m not impressed by what I’ve seen so far and I have very vivid, very bad memories of a mid-’80s Peugeot. It’s highly unlikely that I’ll be buying one of those.

]]> By: Jack Wolfe http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/07/12/no_recaro_seats_for_the_us_market/comment-page-1/#comment-22272 Jack Wolfe Thu, 14 Jul 2005 04:20:24 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/07/12/#comment-22272 <p>after looking at the park lane seats I would prefer them anyway, I think they are awesome. More important then seats is the factory installed Works Package, I am counting the days until I can order a 06 MCS</p> after looking at the park lane seats I would prefer them anyway, I think they are awesome. More important then seats is the factory installed Works Package, I am counting the days until I can order a 06 MCS

]]> By: rustyb http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/07/12/no_recaro_seats_for_the_us_market/comment-page-1/#comment-22271 rustyb Thu, 14 Jul 2005 01:28:09 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/07/12/#comment-22271 <p>They are nice (see link for pic), but IMO the stock seats are pretty decent. For the posts that are stating they will no longer purchase a MINI because of the seats--you never really wanted the car anyway! </p> <p>The bolsters on my '05 stock sport seats are bigger than the Recaros, and keep you right where you are supposed to be under spirited driving conditions. Saying you would not buy a car because of the seats, that's a good one!</p> They are nice (see link for pic), but IMO the stock seats are pretty decent. For the posts that are stating they will no longer purchase a MINI because of the seats–you never really wanted the car anyway!

The bolsters on my ’05 stock sport seats are bigger than the Recaros, and keep you right where you are supposed to be under spirited driving conditions. Saying you would not buy a car because of the seats, that’s a good one!

]]> By: Gabe http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/07/12/no_recaro_seats_for_the_us_market/comment-page-1/#comment-22270 Gabe Thu, 14 Jul 2005 01:16:16 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/07/12/#comment-22270 <p>btw for all those interested in at least seeing what they look like there's now a link to a photo of the seats in the story above.</p> btw for all those interested in at least seeing what they look like there’s now a link to a photo of the seats in the story above.

]]> By: Scarlett http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/07/12/no_recaro_seats_for_the_us_market/comment-page-1/#comment-22269 Scarlett Thu, 14 Jul 2005 00:28:40 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/07/12/#comment-22269 <p>Jeesh Jim--do you wear a seatbelt? I"m small, and I don't 'slosh around' my seat.</p> Jeesh Jim–do you wear a seatbelt? I”m small, and I don’t ‘slosh around’ my seat.

]]> By: Gabe http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/07/12/no_recaro_seats_for_the_us_market/comment-page-1/#comment-22268 Gabe Wed, 13 Jul 2005 23:27:10 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/07/12/#comment-22268 <p>Jim - have you sat in the redesigned sport seats? They may fit you better.</p> Jim – have you sat in the redesigned sport seats? They may fit you better.

]]> By: Jim http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/07/12/no_recaro_seats_for_the_us_market/comment-page-1/#comment-22267 Jim Wed, 13 Jul 2005 23:21:00 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/07/12/#comment-22267 <p>I want to trade my "03 JCW for a lot of reasons but I am a skinny guy and without the Recaro's, I would still slosh around too much like I do now. No Recaros is seriously causing me to change my mind on the purchase of the '05. Why get all the power and g force ability and not be able to stay in me seat!</p> I want to trade my “03 JCW for a lot of reasons but I am a skinny guy and without the Recaro’s, I would still slosh around too much like I do now. No Recaros is seriously causing me to change my mind on the purchase of the ’05. Why get all the power and g force ability and not be able to stay in me seat!

]]> By: Z4MINI http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/07/12/no_recaro_seats_for_the_us_market/comment-page-1/#comment-22266 Z4MINI Wed, 13 Jul 2005 23:03:22 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/07/12/#comment-22266 <p>"Anything interesting for '06 might have tipped me in favor, but we are getting snubbed across the board it seems."</p> <p>I am intrigued. Please clarify. It seems from the other articles that the US is getting lots of new options which are not being restricted to "Specials" like they are elsewhere. </p> <p>However, we aren't getting one particular seat. I'm not sure that is a snubb.</p> “Anything interesting for ’06 might have tipped me in favor, but we are getting snubbed across the board it seems.”

I am intrigued. Please clarify. It seems from the other articles that the US is getting lots of new options which are not being restricted to “Specials” like they are elsewhere.

However, we aren’t getting one particular seat. I’m not sure that is a snubb.

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