Comments on: When 210hp Just Isn't Enough http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/08/04/when_210hp_just_isnt_enough/ MotoringFile | MINI news, reviews and opinion. MINI Cooper, Cooper S, Clubman, Countryman Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:32:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Billy http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/08/04/when_210hp_just_isnt_enough/comment-page-1/#comment-29805 Billy Tue, 03 Jan 2006 13:40:32 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/08/04/#comment-29805 <p>minicooper bbr 300t is the best car in the world</p> minicooper bbr 300t is the best car in the world

]]> By: Rocketboy http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/08/04/when_210hp_just_isnt_enough/comment-page-1/#comment-23263 Rocketboy Sat, 13 Aug 2005 02:06:07 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/08/04/#comment-23263 <p>So?</p> So?

]]> By: expert http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/08/04/when_210hp_just_isnt_enough/comment-page-1/#comment-23262 expert Mon, 08 Aug 2005 18:03:02 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/08/04/#comment-23262 <p>my nissan skyline has 855hp so shut up.ps its braking distance from 100km/h is 25m</p> my nissan skyline has 855hp so shut up.ps its braking distance from 100km/h is 25m

]]> By: boyitsfast http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/08/04/when_210hp_just_isnt_enough/comment-page-1/#comment-23261 boyitsfast Sat, 06 Aug 2005 17:58:18 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/08/04/#comment-23261 <p>Remember that the numbers Hubie uses are wheel horse power which are lower than what horsepower is created by the engine (aka crank horse power, base horse power). AutoExpress are using the higher bhp spec'd numbers. Convert that 300bhp to whp numbers and you get about 265 whp. I also remember reading somewhere that Hubies car is his daily driver and he's put 10's of thousands of miles on it with the modifications he's doing.</p> <p>Jake, the throttle pedal is not an on/off switch. It's proportional to how much you push on it. Learn to use the throttle to your advantage and you'll keep from spinning the wheels of your 160hp ride.</p> Remember that the numbers Hubie uses are wheel horse power which are lower than what horsepower is created by the engine (aka crank horse power, base horse power). AutoExpress are using the higher bhp spec’d numbers. Convert that 300bhp to whp numbers and you get about 265 whp. I also remember reading somewhere that Hubies car is his daily driver and he’s put 10′s of thousands of miles on it with the modifications he’s doing.

Jake, the throttle pedal is not an on/off switch. It’s proportional to how much you push on it. Learn to use the throttle to your advantage and you’ll keep from spinning the wheels of your 160hp ride.

]]> By: Jake http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/08/04/when_210hp_just_isnt_enough/comment-page-1/#comment-23260 Jake Sat, 06 Aug 2005 02:49:10 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/08/04/#comment-23260 <p>It's hard keeping tires from spinning with 160, I can't imagine 300 or more.</p> It’s hard keeping tires from spinning with 160, I can’t imagine 300 or more.

]]> By: Ricardo http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/08/04/when_210hp_just_isnt_enough/comment-page-1/#comment-23259 Ricardo Fri, 05 Aug 2005 18:19:33 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/08/04/#comment-23259 <p>The SPI is just a Demo car that just makes dyno run´s, yes it can run the quarter mile and stop, I´ve read many threads about this SPI project and the hole thing about criogenics is just crazy, I´ve spoke many times with Hubie Fuh, he is a great person, but I think the project is most for show, who gets most power on a MINI in the dyno. not an everyday car for the street or the track.</p> The SPI is just a Demo car that just makes dyno run´s, yes it can run the quarter mile and stop, I´ve read many threads about this SPI project and the hole thing about criogenics is just crazy, I´ve spoke many times with Hubie Fuh, he is a great person, but I think the project is most for show, who gets most power on a MINI in the dyno. not an everyday car for the street or the track.

]]> By: blalor http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/08/04/when_210hp_just_isnt_enough/comment-page-1/#comment-23258 blalor Fri, 05 Aug 2005 16:18:48 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/08/04/#comment-23258 <blockquote> <p>So when will we see a 1000HP MCS?</p> <p>These horsepower wars are really silly, IMHO.</p> </blockquote> <p>Yep. I'd rather see torque wars. :-)</p> <p>Besides, there's a limit to how useful HP and even torque are. I have no interest in going fast in a straight line. Leave that to the top-fuel dragsters. How about a new benchmark for tuning, that focusses on handling? Let's define a standard road section, like the quarter mile, but with prescribed turns with set radii and distance between them, and then hold up your ETs through there.</p>

So when will we see a 1000HP MCS?

These horsepower wars are really silly, IMHO.

Yep. I’d rather see torque wars. :-)

Besides, there’s a limit to how useful HP and even torque are. I have no interest in going fast in a straight line. Leave that to the top-fuel dragsters. How about a new benchmark for tuning, that focusses on handling? Let’s define a standard road section, like the quarter mile, but with prescribed turns with set radii and distance between them, and then hold up your ETs through there.

]]> By: Michael Burchill http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/08/04/when_210hp_just_isnt_enough/comment-page-1/#comment-23257 Michael Burchill Fri, 05 Aug 2005 14:55:55 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/08/04/#comment-23257 <p>...Oh - and if you want 300+ bhp, theres also no need to go to the UK. You can also get that rignt here in the USA with Eric Savage, at Helix MINIsports.</p> <p>His Garrett/TurboKompressor Kit sells for $4,800 - and he has it on his very own everyday-driver MCS too.</p> <p>http://www.helix13.com/html/products/productview.php?p=6&h=m</p> <p>(scroll down on the page about halfway)</p> <ul> <li><ul> <li>m</li> </ul></li> </ul> …Oh – and if you want 300+ bhp, theres also no need to go to the UK. You can also get that rignt here in the USA with Eric Savage, at Helix MINIsports.

His Garrett/TurboKompressor Kit sells for $4,800 – and he has it on his very own everyday-driver MCS too.

http://www.helix13.com/html/products/productview.php?p=6&h=m

(scroll down on the page about halfway)

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]]> By: Michael Burchill http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/08/04/when_210hp_just_isnt_enough/comment-page-1/#comment-23256 Michael Burchill Fri, 05 Aug 2005 14:50:56 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/08/04/#comment-23256 <p>These guys have been around for quite a while... They also have a number of other kits available, with various amount of HP.</p> <p>http://www.bbrgti.com/mini.php</p> <ul> <li><ul> <li>m</li> </ul></li> </ul> These guys have been around for quite a while… They also have a number of other kits available, with various amount of HP.

http://www.bbrgti.com/mini.php

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]]> By: dgszweda http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/08/04/when_210hp_just_isnt_enough/comment-page-1/#comment-23255 dgszweda Fri, 05 Aug 2005 13:08:04 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/08/04/#comment-23255 <p>THomas,</p> <p>What does that have to do with the thread? This is a blog, not a forum. I would suggest that you ask the question on http://www.northamericanmotoring.com or http://www.mini2.com</p> <p>Both excellent locations for these types of questions.</p> THomas,

What does that have to do with the thread? This is a blog, not a forum. I would suggest that you ask the question on http://www.northamericanmotoring.com or http://www.mini2.com

Both excellent locations for these types of questions.

]]> By: THomas http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/08/04/when_210hp_just_isnt_enough/comment-page-1/#comment-23254 THomas Fri, 05 Aug 2005 09:43:39 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/08/04/#comment-23254 <p>I have a question. I have a cooper S, and just wonder if I just add a JCW air filter, is it any good? Worth the money?</p> I have a question. I have a cooper S, and just wonder if I just add a JCW air filter, is it any good? Worth the money?

]]> By: Philip http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/08/04/when_210hp_just_isnt_enough/comment-page-1/#comment-23253 Philip Fri, 05 Aug 2005 09:33:50 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/08/04/#comment-23253 <p>I like the facts that they kept the focus on tuning the engine, suspension and brakes, but left the exterior nearly untouched. British understatement.</p> <p>Most of the tuned MINIs look like monsters with their ugly body conversion kits.</p> I like the facts that they kept the focus on tuning the engine, suspension and brakes, but left the exterior nearly untouched. British understatement.

Most of the tuned MINIs look like monsters with their ugly body conversion kits.

]]> By: Ralph http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/08/04/when_210hp_just_isnt_enough/comment-page-1/#comment-23252 Ralph Fri, 05 Aug 2005 09:27:58 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/08/04/#comment-23252 <p>Minispeed UK modifies MCS to a Bhp of 275. For an article on what they do check out their website at: http://www.minispeed.co.uk/new_mini/index.cgi?task=load&content=newcars</p> <p>Minispeed Mini Cooper S Specifications:</p> <p>Wheels Image split rim 8x18 Brakes AP Racing big brake kit. Performance Staggering. Power 275 Bhp</p> Minispeed UK modifies MCS to a Bhp of 275. For an article on what they do check out their website at: http://www.minispeed.co.uk/new_mini/index.cgi?task=load&content=newcars

Minispeed Mini Cooper S Specifications:

Wheels Image split rim 8×18 Brakes AP Racing big brake kit. Performance Staggering. Power 275 Bhp

]]> By: Mike http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/08/04/when_210hp_just_isnt_enough/comment-page-1/#comment-23251 Mike Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:54:37 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/08/04/#comment-23251 <p>"In the time it's taken you to read this paragraph"? Well, with an average reading speed of 200 words per minute, and 60 words in the paragraph (depending on what you call a word, anyway), that's 18 seconds, which I wouldn't call very impressive. :P</p> “In the time it’s taken you to read this paragraph”? Well, with an average reading speed of 200 words per minute, and 60 words in the paragraph (depending on what you call a word, anyway), that’s 18 seconds, which I wouldn’t call very impressive. :P

]]> By: nemi http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/08/04/when_210hp_just_isnt_enough/comment-page-1/#comment-23250 nemi Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:04:59 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/08/04/#comment-23250 <p>I found the BBR web site info:</p> <p>Turbo Mini: http://www.bbrgti.com/minit.php</p> <p>Other Mini Conversions: http://www.bbrgti.com/mini.php</p> I found the BBR web site info:

Turbo Mini: http://www.bbrgti.com/minit.php

Other Mini Conversions: http://www.bbrgti.com/mini.php

]]> By: Derek http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/08/04/when_210hp_just_isnt_enough/comment-page-1/#comment-23249 Derek Fri, 05 Aug 2005 05:27:19 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/08/04/#comment-23249 <p>OOH - is it available for the automatic?</p> OOH – is it available for the automatic?

]]> By: gokartride http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/08/04/when_210hp_just_isnt_enough/comment-page-1/#comment-23248 gokartride Fri, 05 Aug 2005 05:10:22 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/08/04/#comment-23248 <p>That's awesome........but I'll keep my Cooper, thanks.</p> That’s awesome……..but I’ll keep my Cooper, thanks.

]]> By: Siddhartha http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/08/04/when_210hp_just_isnt_enough/comment-page-1/#comment-23247 Siddhartha Fri, 05 Aug 2005 04:11:59 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/08/04/#comment-23247 <p>ZZZZZZZzzzzzz</p> ZZZZZZZzzzzzz

]]> By: Kyle http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/08/04/when_210hp_just_isnt_enough/comment-page-1/#comment-23246 Kyle Fri, 05 Aug 2005 03:44:15 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/08/04/#comment-23246 <p>That's incredible. Are there any numbers on it (0-60,ect.)?</p> That’s incredible. Are there any numbers on it (0-60,ect.)?

]]> By: O(=^=)O Capn http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/08/04/when_210hp_just_isnt_enough/comment-page-1/#comment-23245 O(=^=)O Capn Fri, 05 Aug 2005 03:37:02 +0000 http://matthewgifford.com/2005/08/04/#comment-23245 <p>oooohh, Getrag AWD, hmmn, me like.</p> oooohh, Getrag AWD, hmmn, me like.

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