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	<title>Comments on: MF Mailbox: White Lights Install</title>
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		<title>By: Casey</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/08/06/mf_mailbox_white_lights_install/comment-page-1/#comment-23357</link>
		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2005 21:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Those are the same factory tail lights....i don&#039;t believe moss sells the pure white ones anymore...just the newer red and white (no amber) ones....all the same.  I have never had a problem with the white taillights on any of the three MINIs i&#039;ve owned.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those are the same factory tail lights&#8230;.i don&#8217;t believe moss sells the pure white ones anymore&#8230;just the newer red and white (no amber) ones&#8230;.all the same.  I have never had a problem with the white taillights on any of the three MINIs i&#8217;ve owned.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/08/06/mf_mailbox_white_lights_install/comment-page-1/#comment-23356</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2005 21:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Going on Ebay - I have seen these white backlights going for as little as 48.00 plus 25.00 shipping. My question is, are these the same quality as MossMINI or Outmotoring? My OEM 2003 backlights have a thin layer of dust in between the clear lense and the colored lenses - is there any way to correct/clean this? It has been like this since I bought it new - very frustrating when I clean it up and look at it during day, but especially at night - you can see the dust within that area clinging to the inter part of clear lense. Any help is very much appreciated.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going on Ebay &#8211; I have seen these white backlights going for as little as 48.00 plus 25.00 shipping. My question is, are these the same quality as MossMINI or Outmotoring? My OEM 2003 backlights have a thin layer of dust in between the clear lense and the colored lenses &#8211; is there any way to correct/clean this? It has been like this since I bought it new &#8211; very frustrating when I clean it up and look at it during day, but especially at night &#8211; you can see the dust within that area clinging to the inter part of clear lense. Any help is very much appreciated.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Casey</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/08/06/mf_mailbox_white_lights_install/comment-page-1/#comment-23355</link>
		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2005 16:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The harness strengthens the current...but it in itself will not make them DOT approved...to do so you have to install those fugly red reflectors that pretty much NO one does....my dealer actually refused to install the white lights as i refused the reflectors and they couldn&#039;t sell the car with the white lights on but no reflectors as it wouldn&#039;t be DOT approved....so in about 10 minutes at Gabe&#039;s house (staying there while i was in town to pick up my MINI) we had them installed...i have the harness - just never got around to installing it.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The harness strengthens the current&#8230;but it in itself will not make them DOT approved&#8230;to do so you have to install those fugly red reflectors that pretty much NO one does&#8230;.my dealer actually refused to install the white lights as i refused the reflectors and they couldn&#8217;t sell the car with the white lights on but no reflectors as it wouldn&#8217;t be DOT approved&#8230;.so in about 10 minutes at Gabe&#8217;s house (staying there while i was in town to pick up my MINI) we had them installed&#8230;i have the harness &#8211; just never got around to installing it.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Charles Talen</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/08/06/mf_mailbox_white_lights_install/comment-page-1/#comment-23354</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Talen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2005 16:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You can install the white taillights on a 2005 Mini! The 2005 OEM lights have the reverse light built into them, when you install the white taillights on a 2005 Mini the top fog lights act as the reverse lights. I dont know if it is DOT approved, but it works.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can install the white taillights on a 2005 Mini! The 2005 OEM lights have the reverse light built into them, when you install the white taillights on a 2005 Mini the top fog lights act as the reverse lights. I dont know if it is DOT approved, but it works.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2005 08:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Without the harness I don&#039;t think the brake lights don&#039;t meet DOT standards.  If you have done brake light diode mod, then you basically have done what the harness would do less any extra current the harness might provide.  Also with the harness in place, rear fog lights are an not an option.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without the harness I don&#8217;t think the brake lights don&#8217;t meet DOT standards.  If you have done brake light diode mod, then you basically have done what the harness would do less any extra current the harness might provide.  Also with the harness in place, rear fog lights are an not an option.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Gabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2005 06:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve recently heard it strengthens the electrical signal, the lights look a little pink w/o it...this just makes it stronger so it looks a bit more red.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve recently heard it strengthens the electrical signal, the lights look a little pink w/o it&#8230;this just makes it stronger so it looks a bit more red.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Gabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2005 01:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Can you buy/install only the white third brake light for 2005+ MC &amp; MCS?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Yes - the 02-04 and the 05+ are no different when it comes to the third brake light.  One of the few places where there&#039;s no difference it would seem!&lt;/p&gt;
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  <p>Can you buy/install only the white third brake light for 2005+ MC &amp; MCS?</p>
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<p>Yes &#8211; the 02-04 and the 05+ are no different when it comes to the third brake light.  One of the few places where there&#8217;s no difference it would seem!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mark Vogler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Vogler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2005 00:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Rolin,
Check EBAY, I&#039;ve seen just the 3rd brake light on there a lot.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rolin,
Check EBAY, I&#8217;ve seen just the 3rd brake light on there a lot.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rollin</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/08/06/mf_mailbox_white_lights_install/comment-page-1/#comment-23349</link>
		<dc:creator>Rollin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2005 21:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Can you buy/install only the white third brake light for 2005+ MC &amp; MCS?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you buy/install only the white third brake light for 2005+ MC &amp; MCS?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mark Vogler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Vogler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2005 04:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dave you are correct as far as the bulbs being soldered and the board being different.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have rear fogs enabled and working. I did not need the harness installed to do that. Thats my main reason for this question. I have the harness now but don&#039;t want to install it unless it going to give me a function that I need or want.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave you are correct as far as the bulbs being soldered and the board being different.</p>

<p>I have rear fogs enabled and working. I did not need the harness installed to do that. Thats my main reason for this question. I have the harness now but don&#8217;t want to install it unless it going to give me a function that I need or want.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: David Bunting</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Bunting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2005 23:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Caveat: I&#039;m a bit fuzzy on this, but this is what I recall from a couple years ago.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The additional harness was necessary if you wanted to have the rear foglight active on the clear tails.  Additionally, the circuit board on the clear tails was different and the bulbs may have been soldered in as well.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caveat: I&#8217;m a bit fuzzy on this, but this is what I recall from a couple years ago.</p>

<p>The additional harness was necessary if you wanted to have the rear foglight active on the clear tails.  Additionally, the circuit board on the clear tails was different and the bulbs may have been soldered in as well.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mike Wildman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Wildman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2005 20:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The white rear lights can be used on 05 Minis with a very minor mod to the light. I have them ready prepared&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The white rear lights can be used on 05 Minis with a very minor mod to the light. I have them ready prepared</p>]]></content:encoded>
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