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	<title>Comments on: English Leather Seats Changed for US Market</title>
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		<title>By: Gary Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/09/07/english_leather_seats_changed_for_us_market/comment-page-1/#comment-215385</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 07:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is there anywhere the English Panther Leather seats may be purchased to replace my &#039;06 MCS JCW sport seats?  From an English supplier or U.S. supplier (I&#039;m, in the U.S.).&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there anywhere the English Panther Leather seats may be purchased to replace my &#8217;06 MCS JCW sport seats?  From an English supplier or U.S. supplier (I&#8217;m, in the U.S.).</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: kaelaria</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/09/07/english_leather_seats_changed_for_us_market/comment-page-1/#comment-24674</link>
		<dc:creator>kaelaria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2005 09:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ew - those are hideous!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ew &#8211; those are hideous!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: MINIAC</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/09/07/english_leather_seats_changed_for_us_market/comment-page-1/#comment-24673</link>
		<dc:creator>MINIAC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 22:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;If you compare the leather samples for the panther black leather and the &quot;English&quot; leather the panther black is much darker than the &quot;English&quot; leather.
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I was at a dealership today and looked at the swatches ... the English and Gravity Leathers had a different grain but were almost identical in color.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The grey cloth on the Checkmate upholstery is lighter than that on the Space cloth.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><blockquote>If you compare the leather samples for the panther black leather and the &#8220;English&#8221; leather the panther black is much darker than the &#8220;English&#8221; leather.
<blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></p>

<p>I was at a dealership today and looked at the swatches &#8230; the English and Gravity Leathers had a different grain but were almost identical in color.</p>

<p>The grey cloth on the Checkmate upholstery is lighter than that on the Space cloth.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: RB</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/09/07/english_leather_seats_changed_for_us_market/comment-page-1/#comment-24672</link>
		<dc:creator>RB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 22:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;another thought......MGTD seats&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another thought&#8230;&#8230;MGTD seats</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: CraigE</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/09/07/english_leather_seats_changed_for_us_market/comment-page-1/#comment-24671</link>
		<dc:creator>CraigE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 18:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If you compare the leather samples for the panther black leather and the &quot;English&quot; leather the panther black is much darker than the &quot;English&quot; leather.  Most MINI dealers should have the new seat materials displayed.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you compare the leather samples for the panther black leather and the &#8220;English&#8221; leather the panther black is much darker than the &#8220;English&#8221; leather.  Most MINI dealers should have the new seat materials displayed.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Gabe</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/09/07/english_leather_seats_changed_for_us_market/comment-page-1/#comment-24670</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 05:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I can&#039;t believe it took that long for someone to catch that ;-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe it took that long for someone to catch that ;-)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/09/07/english_leather_seats_changed_for_us_market/comment-page-1/#comment-24669</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 05:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The English Leather seats are a standalone option in the US that, on the face of it, seam to be taken straight out of the special edition &#039;Park Lane&#039; Cooper&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;seam&quot;--haha--you&#039;re a clever one, Gabe!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>The English Leather seats are a standalone option in the US that, on the face of it, seam to be taken straight out of the special edition &#8216;Park Lane&#8217; Cooper</blockquote>

<p>&#8220;seam&#8221;&#8211;haha&#8211;you&#8217;re a clever one, Gabe!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: GMINI</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/09/07/english_leather_seats_changed_for_us_market/comment-page-1/#comment-24668</link>
		<dc:creator>GMINI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 05:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;let me reiterate:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;the english leather seats pictured above are indeed putty grey.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>let me reiterate:</p>

<p>the english leather seats pictured above are indeed putty grey.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: GMINI</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/09/07/english_leather_seats_changed_for_us_market/comment-page-1/#comment-24667</link>
		<dc:creator>GMINI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 05:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;oh. look who beat me to the post. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;mike: having seen the very same seats, i assure you the seats are quite washed out. nowhere near the rich dark sumptuous color i had seen here and on mini2.com. softer, finer leather, but not worth $1600 imho. crap color choice.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh. look who beat me to the post. </p>

<p>mike: having seen the very same seats, i assure you the seats are quite washed out. nowhere near the rich dark sumptuous color i had seen here and on mini2.com. softer, finer leather, but not worth $1600 imho. crap color choice.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: GMINI</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/09/07/english_leather_seats_changed_for_us_market/comment-page-1/#comment-24666</link>
		<dc:creator>GMINI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 05:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[opinion]&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;big mistake ^&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;[/opinion] ;=)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[opinion]</p>

<p>big mistake ^</p>

<p>[/opinion] ;=)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/09/07/english_leather_seats_changed_for_us_market/comment-page-1/#comment-24665</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 05:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;ive looked at the picture again and the leather on these seats really appear to be grey. if you look at the lever below, that plastic is black... that leather is not. hmmmmm....&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ive looked at the picture again and the leather on these seats really appear to be grey. if you look at the lever below, that plastic is black&#8230; that leather is not. hmmmmm&#8230;.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mark Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/09/07/english_leather_seats_changed_for_us_market/comment-page-1/#comment-24664</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 01:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Solar Red is only available on the Hardtop &#039;06 Cooper and not the S.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solar Red is only available on the Hardtop &#8217;06 Cooper and not the S.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Z4MINI</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/09/07/english_leather_seats_changed_for_us_market/comment-page-1/#comment-24663</link>
		<dc:creator>Z4MINI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 22:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nice! Very nice!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice! Very nice!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/09/07/english_leather_seats_changed_for_us_market/comment-page-1/#comment-24662</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 22:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Gabe - thanks ... that&#039;s what I get for always spec&#039;ing an MCS in the configurator :-) They&#039;re really not kidding with this million different options thing ...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gabe &#8211; thanks &#8230; that&#8217;s what I get for always spec&#8217;ing an MCS in the configurator :-) They&#8217;re really not kidding with this million different options thing &#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Gabe</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/09/07/english_leather_seats_changed_for_us_market/comment-page-1/#comment-24661</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 22:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Paul - do a search for solar red in the search bar at the top right.  You&#039;ll find out more than you ever wanted to know about the color!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul &#8211; do a search for solar red in the search bar at the top right.  You&#8217;ll find out more than you ever wanted to know about the color!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/09/07/english_leather_seats_changed_for_us_market/comment-page-1/#comment-24660</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 22:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Solar Red&quot; ?? Where&#039;s that an option, I only see Chilli Red in the configurator ... SR looks much nicer ... kind of classy!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Solar Red&#8221; ?? Where&#8217;s that an option, I only see Chilli Red in the configurator &#8230; SR looks much nicer &#8230; kind of classy!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: David Bunting</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/09/07/english_leather_seats_changed_for_us_market/comment-page-1/#comment-24659</link>
		<dc:creator>David Bunting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 21:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[speculation]&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I would imagine that they have one style of sensor to determine occupant weight, and that sensor works most accurately when you have even pressure across the sensor.  Thus, the smooth/flat bottom of the cushion would be better for the sensor than the rippled bottom of the Euro spec seats, which may cause inaccurate readings when used in conjunction with the sensor due to the less uniform pressure distribution.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;[/speculation]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[speculation]</p>

<p>I would imagine that they have one style of sensor to determine occupant weight, and that sensor works most accurately when you have even pressure across the sensor.  Thus, the smooth/flat bottom of the cushion would be better for the sensor than the rippled bottom of the Euro spec seats, which may cause inaccurate readings when used in conjunction with the sensor due to the less uniform pressure distribution.</p>

<p>[/speculation]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: xplode</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/09/07/english_leather_seats_changed_for_us_market/comment-page-1/#comment-24658</link>
		<dc:creator>xplode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 21:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;can someone explain -why- it had to be changed? i understand it had something to do with airbag sensors, but why the bottom cushion, and what&#039;s inherently better in using flat panels for the seat bottoms? i don&#039;t get it...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can someone explain -why- it had to be changed? i understand it had something to do with airbag sensors, but why the bottom cushion, and what&#8217;s inherently better in using flat panels for the seat bottoms? i don&#8217;t get it&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: mataku</title>
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		<dc:creator>mataku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;they still look awesome to me.  I really like the classic look of things and it is one of the things that got me into the mini in the first place.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;i do agree though, more classic looking parts should be offered, it would really make the car unique in this day and age.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they still look awesome to me.  I really like the classic look of things and it is one of the things that got me into the mini in the first place.  </p>

<p>i do agree though, more classic looking parts should be offered, it would really make the car unique in this day and age.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 18:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m disappointed they will not be an options for convertibles.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m disappointed they will not be an options for convertibles.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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