Comments on: Safety Regs Kill the JCW GP for Canada http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/ MotoringFile | MINI news, reviews and opinion. MINI Cooper, Cooper S, Clubman, Countryman Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:14:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Didier P http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-102178 Didier P Tue, 06 Mar 2007 15:02:27 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/#comment-102178 <p>Hi guys,</p> <p>here in belgium we have the GP. Whoooahhhh it's a mighty great car dudes, it runs easily 230 km/h</p> <p>See You soon Canada... Greetz from Belgium</p> Hi guys,

here in belgium we have the GP. Whoooahhhh it’s a mighty great car dudes, it runs easily 230 km/h

See You soon Canada… Greetz from Belgium

]]> By: MotoringFile » Archive » Canadian Only JCW Competition Package Makes Official Debut http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-51334 MotoringFile » Archive » Canadian Only JCW Competition Package Makes Official Debut Wed, 06 Sep 2006 16:59:15 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/#comment-51334 <p>[...] As MotoringFile exclusively reported (a couple of times over the last few months) MINI of Canada was unable to offer the JCW GP due to seemingly not wanting to spend the money on re-certifying the car to meet Canada’s low-speed crash regulations. The answer? A package chock-full of all the latest JCW accessories and go-fast parts offered on top of the standard MCS. Enter the JCW Competition Package. Here’s the official press release: [...]</p> [...] As MotoringFile exclusively reported (a couple of times over the last few months) MINI of Canada was unable to offer the JCW GP due to seemingly not wanting to spend the money on re-certifying the car to meet Canada’s low-speed crash regulations. The answer? A package chock-full of all the latest JCW accessories and go-fast parts offered on top of the standard MCS. Enter the JCW Competition Package. Here’s the official press release: [...]

]]> By: MotoringFile » Archive » MINI Canada Gets its Own Special Edition http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-36238 MotoringFile » Archive » MINI Canada Gets its Own Special Edition Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:29:58 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/#comment-36238 <p>[...] To close out the MY2006 RE33 Cooper S (and since they won’t be offering the GP), MINI Canada will be releasing a special edition of it’s own. [...]</p> [...] To close out the MY2006 RE33 Cooper S (and since they won’t be offering the GP), MINI Canada will be releasing a special edition of it’s own. [...]

]]> By: Jack07734 http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-31473 Jack07734 Wed, 08 Feb 2006 01:30:57 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/#comment-31473 <p>If any one says that the bumper is the reason then you need to take a look at this picture.</p> <p>http://www.somc.on.ca/albums/Pulley_Party/P014.jpg</p> <p>The car is a 03 Canadaian spec Cooper. If you look at the middle of the bumper US has been crossed out and CAN written in by someone at the factory. The rest of the signatures are from atendees to the first Niagara Falls/ Toronto Pulley Party.</p> <p>Cheers, Jack</p> If any one says that the bumper is the reason then you need to take a look at this picture.

http://www.somc.on.ca/albums/Pulley_Party/P014.jpg

The car is a 03 Canadaian spec Cooper. If you look at the middle of the bumper US has been crossed out and CAN written in by someone at the factory. The rest of the signatures are from atendees to the first Niagara Falls/ Toronto Pulley Party.

Cheers, Jack

]]> By: Beecher http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-31461 Beecher Tue, 07 Feb 2006 22:36:14 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/#comment-31461 <p>the new gto is not allowed in canda because of safety related issues. just on a side note.</p> <p>-Beecher</p> the new gto is not allowed in canda because of safety related issues. just on a side note.

-Beecher

]]> By: beken http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-31450 beken Tue, 07 Feb 2006 19:51:43 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/#comment-31450 <p>I am wondering if the issue is something else. The inserts for the foglamps are separate pieces (or at least different colors lending to the thought that they are pieces that might fall off under certain circumstances and require additional testing. Also, it he front bottom lip of the front end lower than the standard JCW aero front end? The height might be an issue as I've scraped bottom over a few speed bumps on my MCS. I'm not sure what all the front end requirements in Canada are but there are some significant differences mainly to do with the height where some things are mounted...like why we Canadians can't get the Mitsubishi EVO here because the intercooler is mounted too low.</p> <p>But then again, I've seen some pretty exotic cars available in Canada that look a lot lower than anything normal people can buy.</p> <p>In any case, for a car of such low volume (in Canada, maybe 5 cars?), testing for conformance would probably make the cost prohibitive.</p> <p>Too bad for us.</p> I am wondering if the issue is something else. The inserts for the foglamps are separate pieces (or at least different colors lending to the thought that they are pieces that might fall off under certain circumstances and require additional testing. Also, it he front bottom lip of the front end lower than the standard JCW aero front end? The height might be an issue as I’ve scraped bottom over a few speed bumps on my MCS. I’m not sure what all the front end requirements in Canada are but there are some significant differences mainly to do with the height where some things are mounted…like why we Canadians can’t get the Mitsubishi EVO here because the intercooler is mounted too low.

But then again, I’ve seen some pretty exotic cars available in Canada that look a lot lower than anything normal people can buy.

In any case, for a car of such low volume (in Canada, maybe 5 cars?), testing for conformance would probably make the cost prohibitive.

Too bad for us.

]]> By: Derek http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-31449 Derek Tue, 07 Feb 2006 19:38:53 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/#comment-31449 <p>uh like 5mph, what's that in Canadian?</p> uh like 5mph, what’s that in Canadian?

]]> By: GrumpyGills http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-31446 GrumpyGills Tue, 07 Feb 2006 19:30:07 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/#comment-31446 <p>Egad, didn't mean to make it big 'n bold like that... LOL!</p> Egad, didn’t mean to make it big ‘n bold like that… LOL!

]]> By: GrumpyGills http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-31445 GrumpyGills Tue, 07 Feb 2006 19:28:13 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/#comment-31445 <p>Our Canadian household says "Fine, it's ugly anyway!"</p> <p>BRG/W MCS+JCW</p> Our Canadian household says “Fine, it’s ugly anyway!”

BRG/W MCS+JCW

]]> By: RHT3 http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-31440 RHT3 Tue, 07 Feb 2006 17:33:31 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/#comment-31440 <p>Skyline GTR?!?! You lucky bast!</p> Skyline GTR?!?! You lucky bast!

]]> By: Dennis http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-31429 Dennis Tue, 07 Feb 2006 15:33:33 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/#comment-31429 <p>Well we might not be able to get a new JCW GP in Canada but we can buy a 15 year old Skyline GTR with 600hp from Japan which can't be done in the states. We have to be able to gloat about something.</p> <p>Cheers</p> Well we might not be able to get a new JCW GP in Canada but we can buy a 15 year old Skyline GTR with 600hp from Japan which can’t be done in the states. We have to be able to gloat about something.

Cheers

]]> By: Lee L http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-31427 Lee L Tue, 07 Feb 2006 13:50:22 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/#comment-31427 <p>THe whole 2.5 or 5 mph bumper thing is not for safety, but is supposed to be how much your bumper can take without damage. It is really more of an insurance thing IIRC.</p> THe whole 2.5 or 5 mph bumper thing is not for safety, but is supposed to be how much your bumper can take without damage. It is really more of an insurance thing IIRC.

]]> By: minihaha http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-31424 minihaha Tue, 07 Feb 2006 13:22:21 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/#comment-31424 <p>Not surprised by the usual Canadian "nanny state" approach to safety and all other things associated with fun. It is a shame really that manufacturers have to go through this type of spin in individual markets. Now you know why these things are so bl***y expensive.</p> Not surprised by the usual Canadian “nanny state” approach to safety and all other things associated with fun. It is a shame really that manufacturers have to go through this type of spin in individual markets. Now you know why these things are so bl***y expensive.

]]> By: CW http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-31421 CW Tue, 07 Feb 2006 11:14:16 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/#comment-31421 <p>I've always wondered why Canada couldn't permit a "specialty marque" exemption class for wacky and wonderful cars from around the world.</p> <p>Cars in that class would be given a pass from the usual federalization procedures, but there would be a tight limit on the number of copies sold (firstly to avoid dumping, secondly to mollify domestic producers) and a tariff slapped on them to offset additional costs (i.e. those to our medical system when someone wraps their Clio 182 around a maple tree). ;)</p> I’ve always wondered why Canada couldn’t permit a “specialty marque” exemption class for wacky and wonderful cars from around the world.

Cars in that class would be given a pass from the usual federalization procedures, but there would be a tight limit on the number of copies sold (firstly to avoid dumping, secondly to mollify domestic producers) and a tariff slapped on them to offset additional costs (i.e. those to our medical system when someone wraps their Clio 182 around a maple tree). ;)

]]> By: Quickbrick http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-31420 Quickbrick Tue, 07 Feb 2006 09:42:20 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/#comment-31420 <p>We Australian Mini fans are in the same boat as the Canadians! I was told by a Mini dealer here in Australia (in November last year)that we were not going to see any GPs in Aus. Mini Australia was trying to secure 25 cars for the Australian market, but once the accountants crunched the figures, the cost of testing the GP for Australian compliance was prohibitive. I guess spreading those costs over 25 cars would mean that the Australian issue of the GP would have cost over $US60k each.</p> <p>I wasn't planning on buying one, but was looking forward to maybe seeing one on the roads. I guess our loss just means more cars for the US market.</p> We Australian Mini fans are in the same boat as the Canadians! I was told by a Mini dealer here in Australia (in November last year)that we were not going to see any GPs in Aus. Mini Australia was trying to secure 25 cars for the Australian market, but once the accountants crunched the figures, the cost of testing the GP for Australian compliance was prohibitive. I guess spreading those costs over 25 cars would mean that the Australian issue of the GP would have cost over $US60k each.

I wasn’t planning on buying one, but was looking forward to maybe seeing one on the roads. I guess our loss just means more cars for the US market.

]]> By: Grendel http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-31416 Grendel Tue, 07 Feb 2006 06:39:54 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/#comment-31416 <p><strong>Does that mean more cars for North America (read U.S.) or does it mean more cars for the rest of the world (including U.S.)?</strong></p> <p>Those poor Canadiens - the vultures are circling already ;)</p> Does that mean more cars for North America (read U.S.) or does it mean more cars for the rest of the world (including U.S.)?

Those poor Canadiens – the vultures are circling already ;)

]]> By: Badburro http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-31411 Badburro Tue, 07 Feb 2006 05:05:37 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/#comment-31411 <p>Does that mean more cars for North America (read U.S.) or does it mean more cars for the rest of the world (including U.S.)?</p> Does that mean more cars for North America (read U.S.) or does it mean more cars for the rest of the world (including U.S.)?

]]> By: Jeffro http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-31409 Jeffro Tue, 07 Feb 2006 04:18:40 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/#comment-31409 <p>The US bumper standard, while at one time was 5 mph,is now just 2.5mph. You hear of the 5 mph standard because several automakers still maintain that level. The Canadian standard maintains 5mph (8KPH). This is the probable difference. It has nothing to do with safety, but rather repairability (insurance cost).</p> <p>cheers, jeffro</p> The US bumper standard, while at one time was 5 mph,is now just 2.5mph. You hear of the 5 mph standard because several automakers still maintain that level. The Canadian standard maintains 5mph (8KPH). This is the probable difference. It has nothing to do with safety, but rather repairability (insurance cost).

cheers, jeffro

]]> By: David http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-31402 David Tue, 07 Feb 2006 02:50:19 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/#comment-31402 <p>I've heard 'The Insurance Industry' can influence the suitability of a vehicle for sale when the cost of repair for a given class of accident is considered too great by 'Insurance Industry' standards. When this happens the reasons are usually cited as safety or crash related. I suggest the JCW GP model could have suffered some such fate because the cost to replace the (limited production) aprons contributed to an unacceptable total cost to repair.</p> I’ve heard ‘The Insurance Industry’ can influence the suitability of a vehicle for sale when the cost of repair for a given class of accident is considered too great by ‘Insurance Industry’ standards. When this happens the reasons are usually cited as safety or crash related. I suggest the JCW GP model could have suffered some such fate because the cost to replace the (limited production) aprons contributed to an unacceptable total cost to repair.

]]> By: Gabe http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-31398 Gabe Tue, 07 Feb 2006 00:45:13 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/02/06/safety-regs-kill-the-jcw-gp-for-canada/#comment-31398 <p>You can seriously expect me to spell correctly <em>during</em> the day?</p> You can seriously expect me to spell correctly during the day?

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