Update: The decision has been made and I’ve gone aftermarket. Better yet thanks to Tirerack’s super fast shipping to Chicago, my new wheels and tires have arrived. Big thanks to everyone who gave advice below. I hope that it is a great resource for others considering the same choice. I’ll let the world know what I got in a day or so once I get them on the MINI.
In the meantime my JCW 18″ wheels are now officially for sale. If you’re interested in a smoking deal on both the tires and rims, send me an email via the contact link above.
As I toy with the idea of selling my 18 inch JCW wheels and going aftermarket, I’ve been thinking a lot about the positives and negatives of the two choices. When I got my car, I was made an offer I couldn’t refuse that included the wheels. I love them now as I did then, but as always, I’m ready for something new and different. I won’t go into details yet as to what I’m considering (now let’s see if those who know can keep quiet) but I will say that it doesn’t stray too much from what I currently enjoy.
So I’d like to start out with a list of simple positives and negatives about OEM and aftermarket wheels. Sort of a primer for the folks who are considering either option. And once your done reading feel free to add to the list in the comment section. I don’t mean to start any wheel holy wars with this post, just something for MINI owners to use as a reference for the OEM vs Aftermarket wheel question. So please play nice 😉
OEM: Positives
– Designed to work with the car and are hub-centric.
– Designed to look good with the car.
– Generally engineered to to be tough for unforgiving roads
OEM: Negative
– Everyone else has them.
– Heavier than most aftermarket wheels (and sometimes way heavier)
– Cost can be higher than good aftermarket wheels.
Aftermarket Wheel: Positives
– Costs: many aftermarket wheels can cost substantially less than OEM.
– Weight: since aftermarket companies don’t have to design their wheels to deal with a wide range of consumers, they can designed much lighter. Lighter; faster to go and stop.
– Relatively rare depending on the style. More than you can say about many OEM wheels that are seen on a daily basis.
Aftermarket Wheel: Negatives
– Construction. Some are good (very good in fact). However there are a few sets out there that simply don’t come anywhere near the quality of an OEM wheel.
– At times not as durable as OEM wheels. Manufacturers don’t have to worry about such nasty little things like four year warranties.
– All designs aren’t created equal. Yes wheels are a personal choice. But please, choose wisely, there are some dogs out there.
– Typically not hub-centric.
So let’s hear your thoughts. I’m sure there’s an opinion or two out there. And if anyone is (cough) interested in getting a smoking deal on a set of used but technically and visually perfect 18 inch JCW wheels, shoot me an email via the contact page.
C’mon Gabe. If the Z15 Veronas are good enough for an Escalade, why aren’t they acceptable for a MINI?
Gabe, great write up. I totally agree with all your points and I am going through the same thing. I do think that there are MINI wheels you can get that are still somewhat rare…..like your current JCW wheels. Honestly, I have only seen them on one car locally (Denver). But, I am the same, and want/need something new ever once in a while.
So, I thought I would help with your search….
<a href="http://www.ronalusa.com/wheels/bear.html" rel="nofollow">Gabe’s New Wheels</a>
Happy Friday!
A personal thing….I really like an OEM look and feel that one can cheapen the look of the car if not very careful. I have holeys, so have few complaints about weight. Word to the wise: you-ification can happen by “adding”, but it can also happen by deliberately not “adding”.
Those JCW 18’s are sharp. I wonder what you have in mind that is BETTER than those.
Another thing to consider is the potential hit on the resale of the car. What you like may not be what I like.
In my opinion, there are very few aftermarket brands I would even remotely consider. If I were interested in a used car, I’d walk away from any non-factory mods.
RR
>In my opinion, there are very few aftermarket brands I would even remotely consider.
Same here. In fact there are only two or three I’d look at. And really only one when it comes to my MINI.
>If I were interested in a used car, I’d walk away from any non-factory mods.
Again I’d agree with that. That’s why the S-lites that came with the car will be on it when I go to sell it.
You did not even touch on size (15″, 16″, 17″ 18″) and the pros and cons for each size. Are you looking to stay with the 18’s or go to a 17″??
Gabe, I can understand your itch to upgrade, but the wheels you have are hardly common … and they are one of the sweetest wheels out there … not to mention they complete your full JCW package nicely.
Personally if I had the money I would get these:
<a href="http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/DisplayWheel.jsp?wheelMake=Breyton&wheelModel=Magic+Sport+Mini&wheelFinish=Sil+w%2FPol+Stainless+Lip" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/DisplayWheel.jsp?wheelMake=Breyton&wheelModel=Magic+Sport+Mini&wheelFinish=Sil+w%2FPol+Stainless+Lip</a>
but now I run on holies and love them!
Newbie question here… you mentioned a 4 year warranty on the OEM wheels. Was I suckered when I bout the $600 wheel and tire insurance for my new Mini? Thanks.
On the last 3 of the 4 MINIs I’ve owned I swapped out the oem wheels for aftermarket ones, but I had a couple of reasons I didn’t see mentioned. First, it was an easy way to switch to non-runflat tires, and second, I kept the oem wheels to put back on the car at resale/trade-in time so they’d be truly like-new wheels and barely used tires.
The aftermarket rims I’ve later sold or given away after the MINI they went to was gone.
keep quiet? i don’t know what your talking about… cough cough…
>You did not even touch on size (15″, 16″, 17″ 18″) and the pros and cons for each size. Are you looking to stay with the 18’s or go to a 17″??
That’s a whole other can of worms I’d didn’t want to dive into today. But yes, I’ll be staying with 18s.
>Gabe, I can understand your itch to upgrade, but the wheels you have are hardly common … and they are one of the sweetest wheels out there … not to mention they complete your full JCW package nicely.
Yes you’re right, and if I don’t sell them I’ll be completely fine with that. That said I don’t have the full JCW package. Just the brakes, wheels and intake. Everything else is OEM+ as I call it.
I’m going to have to second a couple of previous comments and then say something crazy. I love your JCW wheels, Gabe, and think they look tops on your MINI and can’t imagine what you’ve got in mind to replace them (though I’m thoroughly curious). I also would jog briskly from any used car with non-factory wheels on it, so good call on hangin’ on to the OEM. But I’ve got unique taste from much of the usual MF crowd: I actually like the S-lites. I know they’re heavy and yeah the runflats suck, but they’re the modern take on the old Mini wheel and I love that touch of heritage. I know you can get actual updated Minilite wheels, but the S-lites match the car in a great way for me.
Wheels are tricky man – trying to find that balance between looks and performance. They can give a car a lot of character, and just as easily turn it into one.
What do you think about the other two JCW wheels? The black set of 18’s could look trick on your all-black MINI and continue on with your JCW+ motif.
With the ultra low profiles of our tires, and fairly stiff suspensions, I highly recommend buying forged wheels. They will still succumb to bends from impacts, but it has to be a heck of an impact. I had SSR Competitions on my A4 that I loved (super light, easy to clean, gorgeous) and did pretty well on NJ’s pockmarked roads (they were 17’s) until I hit a 4 inch lip in an unmarked construction area on the Parkway (at about 75mph). THAT managed to twist the rim a bit, where several very heavy hits in more normal potholes had not made any impression at all.
Forged wheels are more expensive, of course, but if you live in an area with bad roads I wouldn’t consider regular cast wheels at all…unless they are so cheap it would be nothing to replace one or two a year.
Os.
What great timing. I’m about to bite the bullet on some aftermarket wheels. I’m looking at either Volk GT-N or Volk CE28N. I have a couple of concerns with these wheels. First, they will require the a hubcentric ring. How big of an issue is this? The second concern is offset. The GT-N’s are 17×7 and have a 42 offset. The CET8N are 17×7.5 and I can get either a 43 or 50 offset. Any comments of correct offsets? As a general comment, not two may people make 48-50 offset wheels like the OEM wheels. Most wheels I’ve seen are 37-45.
from <strong>Nathaniel Salzman</strong>
<blockquote>I actually like the S-lites. I know they’re heavy and yeah the runflats suck, but they’re the modern take on the old Mini wheel and I love that touch of heritage. I know you can get actual updated Minilite wheels, but the S-lites match the car in a great way for me.</blockquote>
I couldn’t agree more. The S-lite and a few other MINI wheels look much more natural and appropriate than most other wheels you find available. Now I would gladly accept a set of BBS if someone offered.
this is a nice friday morning topic.
personally i really like aftermarket wheels (yet i sport anthracite r99’s). they offer another level of personalization and if chosen wisely can really improve the look of the car. i don’t always think OEM wheels complement the car (esp. bmw)… and then there’s the cost/weight downside.
i say go for the aftermarket wheels, whatever they are. given the current state of your car, i’m sure they will be incredibly well chosen. don’t forget to post pics when it does happen.
hmm…. assuming your staying with OEM+ yet upgrading from the JCW wheels…. Do I suspect GP wheels in your near future? just kidding.
“Lighter faster to go and stop.”
Well said.
“…not to mention they complete your full JCW package nicely.”
Full JCW package? Don’t believe that is the case with Gabe’s car.
If you want to stay with 18s for aesthetic reasons, I would recommend the now discontinued OZ Superleggera. Only ~17lbs, strong and with a fairly clean, purposeful design. I run the “Tuner Silver” SLs on my dechromed DS JCW and they look pretty “tight” imo.
Well, if I had to guess, I would say…
Long time readers would know, unless you changed your mind since you said what you liked a verrry long time ago. I will give a pat on the back to anyone who can find it on MF.
Man, I’m the third Chad to post today!
Anywho, I’ve got kind of a newbie question, too – are there any aftermarket wheels that are hubcentric on the MINI? Or are only the OEM wheels hubcentric?
I agree with Nathaniel and JD7 – I love the S-lites. They compliment the design of the car well, and look really sharp in white. They’re coming on my MCS (just started production today!!) and I don’t have any plans to switch them out. I would seriously consider the GP wheels, though. They’re the bees knees.
I spent a week trying to find a good after-market set for my JCW (coming in August). Don’t laugh, but sometimes those after-market wheels have hideous names and badges that just don’t fit in. I know many of you will say the quality matters, I think so, but everything I do have to combine both: the aesthetics and quality.
The only one I would go for was BBS. Then I tried to order a 18″ set with 215 tires. TireRack didn’t give any 18″ BBS option for MINI, other companies didn’t have satisfying information. I got bored and ordered JCW 18″ Doublespokes. I love those wheels and think they will look great.
For track I am thinking to get a second set of shoes/wheels and keep the run-flats and JCWs for everyday driving.
Gabe, maybe you should get a second set, since as I understand, you still like your JCWs and I like how they complete the car’s appearance.
Gabe,
I hope you are looking at the Breyton 18″‘s because those “1/8’s” is playa, p-l-a-y-a. Rollin’ on one/eights yo.
gabe- i have to agree with nathanial on this. stick with the JCW theme by replacing the original JCW wheels with the newer black ones. they’ll look unbelievable. expensive they are (like $2100 ?), but i feel that if u go with the wrong set the car might look like a typical ricer- similar to many of the civics i see here in Queens. sorry guys- didnt mean to use JCW and civic in the same post. and a real plus is that ur probably gonna never see the rims on another car. iv only seen them on one so far and that on a JCW cabrio for sale on eBay by prestige for like $40000+. black on black would look pretty sick…..
Well, I agree that your current JCW wheels are very unique and kewl. I do, however, understand where you’re coming from. You simply want something newer, and even more unique.
I feel that way about my S-Lites. Yes, they look great on a MINI, but I do think they’re pretty common, and that is why I too, have been researching aftermarket wheels.
I’m sure the ones that you’re looking at are excellent, and we all can’t wait until you tell us what they are.
>i have to agree with nathanial on this. stick with the JCW theme by replacing the original JCW wheels with the newer black ones
I’m not really a fan of black on black on black. And if I have 18s… I want to see them so I’m not really a fan of black wheels either. Actually I’ll be going the other direction. Thanks for the suggestions though!
<blockquote>Actually I’ll be going the other direction. Thanks for the suggestions though!</blockquote>
White wheels then Gabe? That could be really cool on the all-black car. Those JCW double-spoke wheels do come in silver, as I know you know. You know? No?
Ok, enough of that.
You could nab a set of JCWs or take another OEM wheel and take them to a custom shop and have them powder-coated to something unique. Or maybe chrome a set. I’d have to see that though – might not be a good look.
Sorry – other direction was a bad choice of words. Another direction would be more apt 🙂
Sorry – other direction was a bad choice of words. Another direction would be more apt 🙂
BTW I do love the new silver JCW wheels. But honestly I think I like my current ones a bit more.
While I do prefer OEM for the potential of fewer problems, I would say my primary considerations when selecting a wheel are: 1) How well do they hide brake dust (i.e. white wheels are absolute no’s). 2) How easy are they to clean. I want to spend less time time than I do on my S-Lites.
I know which they are.
2 words:
Chrome Spinners
Myself, I think it’s a tacky choice, but there was no talking Gabe out of them 😉
I also like the “S” lites. I liked them so much I bought another set from a fellow on NAM for $400 cash. They had 25 miles on them. He already had a set of aftermarket wheels before he even took possesion of his car. I put Yokahoma tires on them and I carry a one of my old wheels as spare on long trips in a Tire bag. I agree with Chad, they compliment the design of the car well.
Reading through all the posts, and Gabe’s own list of pros and cons, there’s one very important factor that has not been mentioned – and that is the ‘theft’ factor:
OEMS – Positives
– like OEM stereos, less likely to be stolen – even with the JCW wheels – by and large MINI owners are more affluent or mature, and are less likely to ‘part’ someone else’s MINI to put it on their own.
Aftermarket Wheel – Negative
– the 4×100 wheels that fit on a MINI will also fit on many other makes of cars, especially Hondas. As a former Honda owner, the last car being a 2000 Honda Civic SI with a legal Integra Type-R engine conversion, I know only too well the appeal of desirable aftermarket wheels to unscrupulous folks who think of nothing of stealing them to fit them on their own rides.
My Honda had Spoon rims on them, and they were stolen while the car was parked next to a busy gym in mid-afternoon!
In my opinion, this is an important factor to consider – aftermarket rims may make your car look better, perhaps even perform better, but you will have to balance that with the value of your peace of mind, always having to think twice about where you park your car, etc. This was something I always had to consider with my Honda (not just the wheels, but the whole car being stolen), which is not something I worry about with my MINI.
I just got back from My MINI service center with an odd noise coming from the engine and loss of performance, I was told it was coming from the Supercharger and since I had an aftermarkest pulley (Alta 15%) that it probably came from that, anyone ever hear of an aftermarket pulley harming the Supercharger?
Brad: sorry to hear about your problem. However, that sounds like an issue better handled on <a href="http://www.northamericanmotoring.com" rel="nofollow">North American Motoring</a> or <a href="http://www.mini2.com" rel="nofollow">MINI2</a> and not as an offshoot of this discussion about wheels.
First off…….you car looks great Gabe.:o)
I ditched my S Spokes for some aftermarket wheels and I found out it isn’t a win win situation.
The MAIN plus point I found was the handling with the aftermarket wheels. Since they were considerably lighter the car just felt so much more responsive. Then there were the looks, it certainly added to that.
The negative points were firstly my insurance went up. Even though the S Spokes were more expensive, the insurance companies take the view that aftermarket wheels make the car more desirable. Secondly resale, I’ve found buyers shy away from cars with aftermarket products. It seems when they’re buying second-hand, they want to purchase something that’s untouched.
Overall though I probably still would go aftermarket again. For the simple reason of wanting to add some individuality to the car.
>The negative points were firstly my insurance went up. Even though the S Spokes were more expensive, the insurance companies take the view that aftermarket wheels make the car more desirable.
Luckily US insurance companies couldn’t be bothered knowing what wheels you have on your car.
>Secondly resale, I’ve found buyers shy away from cars with aftermarket products. It seems when they’re buying second-hand, they want to purchase something that’s untouched.
I agree – that’s why I’m keeping my original S-lites and will put them back on the car when it is sold.
Gabe,
My suggestion is a set of 22″ Dubs. Then all you’ll need is a 7.5 gazillion watt sound system and a subwoofer the size of an oil drum………….
THUMPA THUMP…..THUMP…THUMP
Stylin’ :>)
Aftermarket, quality ones tho
LMB we all want to know what wheels would give you better fill-in-the-blank performance. what are they?
“hub centric” isn’t a factor in your choice. the loads are taken by the bolts. (there is/must be a clearance gap between the hub and center hole.)
Gabe,
This is a great article. I am looking at some other wheels. The biggest problem I have with some of the OEM wheels is that I don’t like the center cap on some of the wheels. I would rather see the lugs on an alloy wheel. I have R83’s but with the cap off it looks incomplete. I’m looking for wheels that have small spokes and show the lugs.
In your initial comment, you stated that there were only a couple of wheels that were inferior. Would you care to elaborate. I don’t want to make mistakes.
Gabe, delta spokes!! you know you want ’em! 😀
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flyboy2160 Jun 23rd, 2006 Link
“hub centric†isn’t a factor in your choice. the loads are taken by the bolts. (there is/must be a clearance gap between the hub and center hole.)
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My understanding is if the wheel is hub-centric (like OEM wheels), the hub carries weight, which is good. To just have 4 small cross sectional areas of the lugs carry the weight instead?
Needless to say, folks have been running fine with wheels with wider hub centers. It would be interesting to see the amount of stress put on the lug bolts.
There’s nothing that says you have to keep the wheel maker’s name on the center cap. I had custom center caps made with the Sin City MINI Club’s “DevilMINI” logo on them, and I think they look fantastic. Db & Todd (and a couple of hundred other MINIacs) saw them at AMVIV.
I still have my OEM V-Spokes in my shed in case I ever need to sell the car for some reason.
<blockquote>Same here. In fact there are only two or three I’d look at. And really only one when it comes to my MINI.
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So Gabe, Clue us in, Which two or three???
Sorry I don’t want to give it quite away yet. However I will give you this little <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/bridger/173387382/in/pool-motoringfile/" rel="nofollow">hint</a>.
Okay, that’s not really a hint 😉
hahaha … so you actually purchased them already AND recieved them …
for some reason I am on the edge of my seat … what can possibly be better than the jcw’s?
i would go with breytons, BBS, or HRE’s…..
I’m an OEM kind of guy when it comes to cars. Dunno why – I just like a factory look. Love my 17″ Bullets. Though I did go for some graphite 15″ Konig Rewinds for winter (after getting burned on eBay on some OEM 16″ 5-stars claimed to be “take offs” but arriving in a condition anything but…). 🙂
If I were to go with an aftermarket rim I would make sure that it is from a well known manufacturer. I have been considering the idea aftermarket rims to you-ify my Mini. The ones I would really like to get is the Hartge Union Jack Rims with the tire pressure control sensors.
Hartge has been around for a long time building performance parts for BMWs and Minis and they are also an automobile manufacturer by the KBA (German Government Motor Vehicle Authority).
<a href="http://www.hartge.de/html/body_miniuk.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.hartge.de/html/body_miniuk.html</a>
Shown at the bottom and on the more photos link.
I got the R105s in black and love them, even if they’re more expensive and heavier than certain aftermarkets. I previously had R85 S-lites in white and they just made the car look too much like a toy (not to mention they were hard to keep clean).
Gabe, I’d recommend you get black wheels with a polished lip — reminds me of 911s. But since you’re not a black on black on black man, I would suggest R105s in silver.
Alright Gabe… when do we get to see those rims!!
What are the odds they’re black… 🙂
As a person who had aftermarket antera rims before mine and your jcw rims …… Ihave only seen 1 other mini in my neck of the woods with JCW rims and that is 3 yrs afterwards and that is a demo car.
Bonz
PS. as an after thought ….. the old JCW rims have got to be the easiest rims to clean !!!
That looks like a shipment that I received from EdgeRacing.com a little earlier this year . . .
I went with 15″ understated aftermarket wheels from my rather sharp 17″ 5-stars. Performance and tire prices make a big deal, and while the car doesn’t look “better,” it sure looks meaner.
cheers
>Alright Gabe… when do we get to see those rims!!
Come over for Tuesday’s garage night and you can see them for yourself 😉
Nice write up, I did not know about the hub centric stuff.
Some have mentioned the GP rims… That’s the only part of the GP I dislike. But I’ll see them in person in August and maybe that would change my mind.
<blockquote>As I toy with the idea of selling my 18 inch JCW wheels and going aftermarket, </blockquote> ?????????
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/bridger/173387382/in/pool-motoringfile/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.flickr.com/photos/bridger/173387382/in/pool-motoringfile/</a>
Seems you already have them so what’s to debate?
>Seems you already have them so what’s to debate?
Obviously the toying is now over 😉 Check out the update on the top of the page.
I’d be more interested in your tire choice as my Dunlop RF’s are getting to that point of departure and I may go with a non RF tire but still be low profile.
Looking forward to seeing the new wheels.
With all the upgrade/customization itch’s you’re going through lately, do you think you’ll eventually pull the trigger on the full JCW engine upgrade?
Or perhaps after you have the MCS JCW for a week you’ll decide then?
Just did some digging through the 18’s at Tire Rack. I’m guessing they’re O.Z.’s, probably the Ultraleggeras or silver Superturismos.
So we know they’re from TireRack, and Gabe has previously indicated a preference for 18″. Of the available wheels, I would guess either Ultraleggera or SSR GT7. Funny thing is, all of the 18″ offerings at TireRack are significantly less expensive than the JCW.
Or maybe Gabe will surprise us with 15″ wheels.
>With all the upgrade/customization itch’s you’re going through lately, do you think you’ll eventually pull the trigger on the full JCW engine upgrade?
No chance of that at this point. The 15% (review coming next week) has taken care of any itch for the JCW kit.
<blockquote>Come over for Tuesday’s garage night and you can see them for yourself ;-)</blockquote>
hmmm.. tempting, tempting. I should’ve rung your doorbell since we rolled past your place today after the CMMC run since we were going up to the Ravines… I’ll try to stop by Tues!
I vote he went for the portly but stylish OZ Superturismo, as weight is clearly not an issue for Gabe.
I am baffled at all of the comments I see here, and frankly all over the Mini boards, about how aftermarket modifications are bad because they hurt resale value. Is it just me or does this particular sentiment get posted WAY TOO OFTEN!?!! It appears (often more than once) in virtually every post on every board that has anything to do with any after market modification…
So, to those of you who feel compelled to state this again and again each time you read a post about a modification, stop and think for a minute…ENOUGH ALREADY! We heard you the first 600,000 times…
There, now that I got that off my chest here are all the reasons I think this particular point of view is not just redundant, but also wrong:)
First off given the likelyhood that today’s Mini will be a very sought after collector car 20-30 years from now, why sell your Mini at all? I read something by a professional in the field who compared the Mini to the now insanely valuable Hemi Cuda in terms of where if fits in the overall car market of it’s time…e.g. very popular, sold well but in small #s, most will be driven into the ground…etc…)
The only valid reason I can think of to sell your Mini is for a new Mini. And don’t let your significant other tell you there is no more room, I can get four cars in my three car garage because the Mini fits in sideways…I’m happy to post instructions if necessary:)
However, assuming you have to sell your Mini due to some catastrophic circumstances why wouldn’t you just put the original parts back on, if indeed they made the car easier to sell? Duh? No worries…End of story…
However, stop and think about this…these are MINI’s we are talking about here people! “You-ification” is part of the brand and anyone looking for a Mini, used or otherwise, may not only appreciate this but this is probably at least part of the reason why they are looking for a used Mini and not a used Toyota Camry.
With any other car mods probably do make it more difficult to sell but with a Mini I think this concern is way overblown, and more importantly, totally and completely lacking originality as the content of a post to one of the many web forums on Minis…
nuff said…
T
All JCW CR/W MCS, and I wanted a white 17″ rim which didn’t have boat anchor weight, so OEM S-lites were out. Looked at the OZ Superleggeras, but ended up w/ some Team Dynamics Pro Racing Ones w/ Michelin Pilot Exalto PE 2 shoes. 34 lbs a corner, I like the spoked look, and the weight is about impossible to beat. Still in the break-in stage, so jury’s out on wear and tear, but they feel very nimble.
<blockquote>I won’t go into details yet as to what I’m considering (now let’s see if those who know can keep quiet)</blockquote>
(Places duct tape over mouth)
<blockquote>nuff said…
T
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More than nuff.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/bridger/175097084/in/pool-motoringfile/" rel="nofollow">A night shot of the new wheels…</a>
What, no one suggested 13″ gold Daytons? Whatever you get, make sure it is strong enough to handle the impact once you go from “3 wheel motion” back to normal.
nrkist Jun 26th, 2006 Link
nuff said…
T
More than nuff.
Fair nuff…:)
<p>if you still have your 18 inch wheels for sale send me an email please @ <a href="mailto:busabullet@bak.rr.com">busabullet@bak.rr.com</a>.</p>