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		<title>By: tomm9050</title>
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		<dc:creator>tomm9050</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 21:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have the M7 USS installed and have had one incident with it worth reporting. I managed to scrap the underside of my MCS on a piece of pipe (took a wide turn into Long Beach Mini&#039;s drive, over the curb, poorly marked obsticle which they have since fixed).  It hit the USS front bar and rotated the one of the brackets 45degrees.and ripped up the front bar,  which is rather thin and hollow extruded aluminum.  The corner brackets are solid.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;M7 sent a replacement front strut bar for about $30. shipped.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the M7 USS installed and have had one incident with it worth reporting. I managed to scrap the underside of my MCS on a piece of pipe (took a wide turn into Long Beach Mini&#8217;s drive, over the curb, poorly marked obsticle which they have since fixed).  It hit the USS front bar and rotated the one of the brackets 45degrees.and ripped up the front bar,  which is rather thin and hollow extruded aluminum.  The corner brackets are solid.</p>

<p>M7 sent a replacement front strut bar for about $30. shipped.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: MotoringFile &#187; 2006 &#187; December &#187; 31</title>
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		<dc:creator>MotoringFile &#187; 2006 &#187; December &#187; 31</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 19:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] MotoringFile Reviews Auto Reviews: &#8216;06 JCW GP Longterm Reader Review: JCW GP &#8216;06 JCW Cooper S Long Term Comparison: &#8216;06 Lotus Elise Comparison: &#8216;06 Mazda MX5 Comparison: &#8216;06 UK Focus ST Comparison: &#8216;06 Civic Si  Comparison: &#8216;04 TVR T350  Comparison: &#8216;06 Nissan 350z  Comparison: &#8216;06 VW GTI w/DSG  Podcast: Cooper S Auto Podcast: BMW 325i Podcast: JCW MC Soundkit &#8216;04 JCW MINI Cooper Tuning Kit &#8216;05 MCS: One Month Review &#8216;05 MCS Auto &#8216;05 JCW S 1st Drive &#8216;05 MINI Cooper &#8216;05 MCS Conv. Long Term &#8216;05 MINI Cooper S &#8216;05 MCS Cabrio 1st Drive &#8216;04 JCW MCS First Drive &#8216;04 MC w/JCW Tuning Kit BMW M3 SMG Vs. MCS &#8216;04 MINI Cooper CVT &#8216;02 MCS 3 year Review Autocrossing the MINI Range Performance Accessories: Craven Speed Short Shifter M7 Understrut System Kumho Ecsta SPT Tires M7 Strut Tower Reinforcement JCW Alcantara Steering Wheel JCW Brake Kit Webb 15% Pulley Helix MCSa 15% Pulley H-Sport 19mm Sway Bar MCS Supersprint Exhaust Podcast: MCS SS Exhaust JCW Cold Air Intake Reader Reivew: JCW Brakes Supersprint Cooper Exhaust Remus Cooper Exhaust Promini Cooper Intake MC Remus Dual Exhaust Schroth Harness System CVT Steering Wheel Paddles Exterior Accessories: Miniature&#8217;s Receiver Hitch OEM White Tail Lights Lifestyle Accessories: MINI_Motion Watch MINI_Motion Driving Shoe Audio: MINI Digital SoundModul ICE-Link Plus iPod Adapter Official BMW/iPod adapter ICE-Link iPod Adapter  Kenwood iPod Interface Alpine iPod Interface Harman Kardon Stereo Interior Accessories: JCW Alcantara Steering Wheel JCW Leather Dash MCAW Auto Up Circuit MINI Rear Camera MINI Rear Saddle (official) MINI Rear Cargo Storage Case Official MINI Rear Saddle Bag 2004 MINI Armrest Reviewed Mymini Knee Pad MINI Bluetooth Kit MINI Video Input Aftermarket Bluetooth Integration Ian Cull Auto-up Circuit Universal Mobile Phone Holder    Offers from the Tirerack &gt; Special Offers: Save on quality tires with these manufacturer&#8217;s promotions available from The Tire Rack.  &gt; Gift ideas for $50 or more in The Tire Rack&#8217;s Automotive Gift Guide.  &gt; Shop for KUMHO tires at The Tire Rack. [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: MINI.NEWS : WhiteRoofRadio: Woofcast #105</title>
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		<dc:creator>MINI.NEWS : WhiteRoofRadio: Woofcast #105</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] WhiteRoofRadio: Woofcast #105   We re-visit Gabe&#8217;s R56 design review and give you our take on the R56. Some windscreen talk and Gabe also give us his review of the M7 Understrut System. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/10/19/mf-review-m7-understrut-system/comment-page-1/#comment-56447</link>
		<dc:creator>Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Vanwall - Thanks for the comments.  I&#039;m with you 100% about both the appreciation of a nice, quality bolt!  I also agree that it seems stainless is probably fine, as evidenced by the performance of the USS in the review, the bolts are good enough to do the job as intended, plus corrosion resistant (and a little under-chassis bling).  I think you are right, that whatever the insert in the sheet metal is, it is likely the weak link....&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Twister - Thanks, I am back at Tech these days, but looking forward to catching up with the Tar Heels sometime soon.  Just not the basketball team, go Terps (and Hokies)! Ã¯ÂÅ &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DanC - ha, thanks for the vote.  I wonder if that nomination would look out of place on my resume? Ã¯ÂÅ &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also, as an afterthought...  If this were being sold at WalMart/Target, etc. and it was a car-seat, kids toy, or some other device sold to the everyday consumer, I would feel much more adamant that the mfg. company would be obligated to completely ensure that the product was safe in all aspects of its intended application.  However, this is a product available to a small group of enthusiast owners, a small sub-set of owners of a particular car, I think it seems a well-intended solution to a specific issue.  Like I said, you have to realize if you put this on your car, it is advertised specifically to affect the structure of your car.  If it were more mass-market, I would definitely have a different stance on the issue.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;-Eric&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vanwall &#8211; Thanks for the comments.  I&#8217;m with you 100% about both the appreciation of a nice, quality bolt!  I also agree that it seems stainless is probably fine, as evidenced by the performance of the USS in the review, the bolts are good enough to do the job as intended, plus corrosion resistant (and a little under-chassis bling).  I think you are right, that whatever the insert in the sheet metal is, it is likely the weak link&#8230;.</p>

<p>Twister &#8211; Thanks, I am back at Tech these days, but looking forward to catching up with the Tar Heels sometime soon.  Just not the basketball team, go Terps (and Hokies)! Ã¯ÂÅ </p>

<p>DanC &#8211; ha, thanks for the vote.  I wonder if that nomination would look out of place on my resume? Ã¯ÂÅ </p>

<p>Also, as an afterthought&#8230;  If this were being sold at WalMart/Target, etc. and it was a car-seat, kids toy, or some other device sold to the everyday consumer, I would feel much more adamant that the mfg. company would be obligated to completely ensure that the product was safe in all aspects of its intended application.  However, this is a product available to a small group of enthusiast owners, a small sub-set of owners of a particular car, I think it seems a well-intended solution to a specific issue.  Like I said, you have to realize if you put this on your car, it is advertised specifically to affect the structure of your car.  If it were more mass-market, I would definitely have a different stance on the issue.</p>

<p>-Eric</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: DanC</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/10/19/mf-review-m7-understrut-system/comment-page-1/#comment-56393</link>
		<dc:creator>DanC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nice analysis Kennedy!  Very eloquent, informative and reassuring.  You have my vote for comment of the month... if there is such a category.  ;-)
thanks&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice analysis Kennedy!  Very eloquent, informative and reassuring.  You have my vote for comment of the month&#8230; if there is such a category.  ;-)
thanks</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: TWISTER</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/10/19/mf-review-m7-understrut-system/comment-page-1/#comment-56349</link>
		<dc:creator>TWISTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Kennedy,
Thanks for your comments. Hope your doing well in Winston&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Tar Heel MINI Motoring Club&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kennedy,
Thanks for your comments. Hope your doing well in Winston</p>

<p>Tar Heel MINI Motoring Club</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Vanwall</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/10/19/mf-review-m7-understrut-system/comment-page-1/#comment-56295</link>
		<dc:creator>Vanwall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 04:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the analysis, Kennedy, it&#039;s what I was thinking generally, but you&#039;ve done an excellent job of explaining. I see on their website the bolts are stainless steel, (not my choice for anything but trim applications, though), prolly A-2 grade button-head socket caps, so the usual calcs for automotive fastener tensile strengths are out window, as far as I&#039;m concerned, (I&#039;m a big graded bolt fan for automotive uses), but the inserts in the sheet-metal are prolly the weak link, anyway. Hopefully when the moving object meets the redirecting force, it&#039;s a non factor. This is on my wish list, too, anyway - I like the idea and M7&#039;s finished product seems to be the real goods.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;         BCNU,
       Rob in Dago
&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the analysis, Kennedy, it&#8217;s what I was thinking generally, but you&#8217;ve done an excellent job of explaining. I see on their website the bolts are stainless steel, (not my choice for anything but trim applications, though), prolly A-2 grade button-head socket caps, so the usual calcs for automotive fastener tensile strengths are out window, as far as I&#8217;m concerned, (I&#8217;m a big graded bolt fan for automotive uses), but the inserts in the sheet-metal are prolly the weak link, anyway. Hopefully when the moving object meets the redirecting force, it&#8217;s a non factor. This is on my wish list, too, anyway &#8211; I like the idea and M7&#8217;s finished product seems to be the real goods.</p>

<pre><code>         BCNU,
       Rob in Dago
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		<title>By: MINI Fireman</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/10/19/mf-review-m7-understrut-system/comment-page-1/#comment-56290</link>
		<dc:creator>MINI Fireman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 03:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I did the suspension mods to my MINI one at a time so I could better evaluate the effect of each change.  I felt like the USS made my car more settled, particularly during aggressive cornering when I am really throwing the car around.  All in all a nice addition.  Your review reinforces my observations.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did the suspension mods to my MINI one at a time so I could better evaluate the effect of each change.  I felt like the USS made my car more settled, particularly during aggressive cornering when I am really throwing the car around.  All in all a nice addition.  Your review reinforces my observations.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/10/19/mf-review-m7-understrut-system/comment-page-1/#comment-56282</link>
		<dc:creator>Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Was just thinking, I don&#039;t want to confuse anyone.  The USS doesn&#039;t attach to the bottom of the strut or anything, so when I say &quot;get to the wheels&quot; etc.  I only mean that the front of the USS attaches approximately at the same location as the front wheels.  I think actually just a bit further back, but I am not certain.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was just thinking, I don&#8217;t want to confuse anyone.  The USS doesn&#8217;t attach to the bottom of the strut or anything, so when I say &#8220;get to the wheels&#8221; etc.  I only mean that the front of the USS attaches approximately at the same location as the front wheels.  I think actually just a bit further back, but I am not certain.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/10/19/mf-review-m7-understrut-system/comment-page-1/#comment-56274</link>
		<dc:creator>Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Having said that, I have a few comments to the comments.  Actually, I AM a mechanical engineer who happens to work as an auto-safety engineer.  I can understand the comments about the safety concerns and I will say that really I shouldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t comment, nor should you fully take what I say as gospel.  The simple answer is (as someone else pointed out), that MINIÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s chassis engineers specifically designed the car to perform a certain way in a crash.  This is not only to have the vehicle crush in a certain manner, but also control the way it slows down as it is crushing.  For example, if it slows too suddenly, by the time your seat belts fully Ã¢â‚¬Å“catchÃ¢â‚¬Â you, youÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re traveling much faster than your car and experience a more sudden stop.  Compare this to the scenario where the vehicle begins to slow gradually at first, allowing your seatbelts time to Ã¢â‚¬Å“catchÃ¢â‚¬Â you, and you ride the rest of the crash down Ã¢â‚¬Å“more graduallyÃ¢â‚¬Â (everything is relative when youÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re talking about a serious crash) with your car.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;While almost all modifications that you make to your car fall into the category of not affecting your vehicleÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s crashworthiness, this one most certainly does fall in the category of POTENTIALLY affecting the crashworthiness.  HOWEVER, in almost every vehicle design, the car is designed to crush from the front to the back.  That may seem pretty obvious, but generally a car first crushes at the bumper, the radiator and on back, etc.  One of the many reasons for this is to protect the integrity of the occupant compartment.  Simply put, you need space to survive; you need as much space to slow your body down as gradually as possible.  The USS as I understand it, mounts from the front wheels back, and also has a stiffener about mid-point along the wheelbase.  So it shouldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t dramatically change the INITIAL response of the car in an accident.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Now, once you get to the wheels (to the USS) then yes, perhaps it could start to change things.  Regardless of whether the bolts fail or not, the brace is going to have to go somewhere as it crushes.  I not sure exactly of everywhere it attaches to the car and specifically how strong each of those connections are, but it will either A) pull or shear the bolts off, or B) crush with the car.  IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢m pretty sure those are the only two potential answers.  If it is A, then itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s likely it will not be a big player in changing things.  If it is B, then I would assume the long bars, the actual Ã¢â‚¬Å“understrut attachments,Ã¢â‚¬Â will probably buckle and bend out of the way.  If intact, then it will likely make the rest of the crash even slightly stiffer, thus a bit of a Ã¢â‚¬Å“harderÃ¢â‚¬Â ride down, but by how much, it is impossible to say.  Also, that additional rigidity would likely help to keep the occupant compartment more intact, which would potentially benefit the occupants, but again, it is impossible to say.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Ultimately, there is only one way to truly know the answer to how this will affect the MINI in a crash, but that would require resources far beyond what M7, as an aftermarket company could be expected to provide.  I think putting something such as this on your car classifies as implied consent to changing your vehicleÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s structure.  It is unavoidable that this may change some of the crash dynamics.  You can only answer for yourself how comfortable you are with thatÃ¢â‚¬Â¦ but itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s on my wish list.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having said that, I have a few comments to the comments.  Actually, I AM a mechanical engineer who happens to work as an auto-safety engineer.  I can understand the comments about the safety concerns and I will say that really I shouldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t comment, nor should you fully take what I say as gospel.  The simple answer is (as someone else pointed out), that MINIÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s chassis engineers specifically designed the car to perform a certain way in a crash.  This is not only to have the vehicle crush in a certain manner, but also control the way it slows down as it is crushing.  For example, if it slows too suddenly, by the time your seat belts fully Ã¢â‚¬Å“catchÃ¢â‚¬Â you, youÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re traveling much faster than your car and experience a more sudden stop.  Compare this to the scenario where the vehicle begins to slow gradually at first, allowing your seatbelts time to Ã¢â‚¬Å“catchÃ¢â‚¬Â you, and you ride the rest of the crash down Ã¢â‚¬Å“more graduallyÃ¢â‚¬Â (everything is relative when youÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re talking about a serious crash) with your car.</p>

<p>While almost all modifications that you make to your car fall into the category of not affecting your vehicleÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s crashworthiness, this one most certainly does fall in the category of POTENTIALLY affecting the crashworthiness.  HOWEVER, in almost every vehicle design, the car is designed to crush from the front to the back.  That may seem pretty obvious, but generally a car first crushes at the bumper, the radiator and on back, etc.  One of the many reasons for this is to protect the integrity of the occupant compartment.  Simply put, you need space to survive; you need as much space to slow your body down as gradually as possible.  The USS as I understand it, mounts from the front wheels back, and also has a stiffener about mid-point along the wheelbase.  So it shouldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t dramatically change the INITIAL response of the car in an accident.</p>

<p>Now, once you get to the wheels (to the USS) then yes, perhaps it could start to change things.  Regardless of whether the bolts fail or not, the brace is going to have to go somewhere as it crushes.  I not sure exactly of everywhere it attaches to the car and specifically how strong each of those connections are, but it will either A) pull or shear the bolts off, or B) crush with the car.  IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢m pretty sure those are the only two potential answers.  If it is A, then itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s likely it will not be a big player in changing things.  If it is B, then I would assume the long bars, the actual Ã¢â‚¬Å“understrut attachments,Ã¢â‚¬Â will probably buckle and bend out of the way.  If intact, then it will likely make the rest of the crash even slightly stiffer, thus a bit of a Ã¢â‚¬Å“harderÃ¢â‚¬Â ride down, but by how much, it is impossible to say.  Also, that additional rigidity would likely help to keep the occupant compartment more intact, which would potentially benefit the occupants, but again, it is impossible to say.</p>

<p>Ultimately, there is only one way to truly know the answer to how this will affect the MINI in a crash, but that would require resources far beyond what M7, as an aftermarket company could be expected to provide.  I think putting something such as this on your car classifies as implied consent to changing your vehicleÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s structure.  It is unavoidable that this may change some of the crash dynamics.  You can only answer for yourself how comfortable you are with thatÃ¢â‚¬Â¦ but itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s on my wish list.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/10/19/mf-review-m7-understrut-system/comment-page-1/#comment-56273</link>
		<dc:creator>Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nice review Gabe.  I have had my eye on the USS for a while too, no matter how stiff and great the MINI is, I have always thought that you can never go wrong with stifferÃ¢â‚¬Â¦  I know thereÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s a joke in there somewhere, but that wasnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t what I was going for.  IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢m sure one will be in my future, once I get caught up with the rest of the mods wish list.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice review Gabe.  I have had my eye on the USS for a while too, no matter how stiff and great the MINI is, I have always thought that you can never go wrong with stifferÃ¢â‚¬Â¦  I know thereÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s a joke in there somewhere, but that wasnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t what I was going for.  IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢m sure one will be in my future, once I get caught up with the rest of the mods wish list.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: rkw</title>
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		<dc:creator>rkw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Earl Harris Oct 19th, 2006 Link

Has anyone tried it on a convertible Mini? I had a Mini S convertible and sold it because it had to much flex if this would fix most of the flex I would buy another one because I love the car. Thanks&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;See my comment &lt;a href=&quot;http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/19/mf-review-m7-understrut-system/#comment-56210&quot;&gt;above&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>Earl Harris Oct 19th, 2006 Link

Has anyone tried it on a convertible Mini? I had a Mini S convertible and sold it because it had to much flex if this would fix most of the flex I would buy another one because I love the car. Thanks</blockquote>

<p>See my comment <a href="http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/19/mf-review-m7-understrut-system/#comment-56210">above</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: alpinamike</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/10/19/mf-review-m7-understrut-system/comment-page-1/#comment-56258</link>
		<dc:creator>alpinamike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I need the one for my R52. Hey M7 want to throw me a free one...lol
Then I can test it before and after.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need the one for my R52. Hey M7 want to throw me a free one&#8230;lol
Then I can test it before and after.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: csdmmnt</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/10/19/mf-review-m7-understrut-system/comment-page-1/#comment-56255</link>
		<dc:creator>csdmmnt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oiy! ...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Was the atmospheric pressure at the time of each run the same?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Was the decernable percipitation and humidity during each run the same?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;... good lord guys.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nice review, thanks for the information it covers the basic knowledge one would want to gain I think. For the race nut they&#039;d already know or would seek their own further investigation for the finer facts.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oiy! &#8230;</p>

<p>Was the atmospheric pressure at the time of each run the same?</p>

<p>Was the decernable percipitation and humidity during each run the same?</p>

<p>&#8230; good lord guys.</p>

<p>Nice review, thanks for the information it covers the basic knowledge one would want to gain I think. For the race nut they&#8217;d already know or would seek their own further investigation for the finer facts.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Earl Harris</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/10/19/mf-review-m7-understrut-system/comment-page-1/#comment-56253</link>
		<dc:creator>Earl Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Has anyone tried it on a convertible Mini? I had a Mini S convertible and sold it because it had to much flex if this would fix most of the flex I would buy another one because I love the car. Thanks&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Vanwall</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/10/19/mf-review-m7-understrut-system/comment-page-1/#comment-56233</link>
		<dc:creator>Vanwall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This seems more like a track oriented mod, but a street MINI would undoubtedly benefit - I like the idea, and the product seems to live up to the promise. Stress transfers would hopefully be minimal for the life of car.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not so sure anyone should be throwing around opinions best left to structural engineers regarding the crash-worthiness, or not, of any product - just about any performance mod changes the dynamics of a car, so adding anything is your responsibilty, regardless.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;             BCNU,
          Rob in Dago
&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems more like a track oriented mod, but a street MINI would undoubtedly benefit &#8211; I like the idea, and the product seems to live up to the promise. Stress transfers would hopefully be minimal for the life of car.</p>

<p>I&#8217;m not so sure anyone should be throwing around opinions best left to structural engineers regarding the crash-worthiness, or not, of any product &#8211; just about any performance mod changes the dynamics of a car, so adding anything is your responsibilty, regardless.</p>

<pre><code>             BCNU,
          Rob in Dago
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		<title>By: Gabe</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/10/19/mf-review-m7-understrut-system/comment-page-1/#comment-56221</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;How do you mean more composed? More predictable? I guess I canÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t believe this until I test the difference first hand. I can understand why some people would feel a difference. They spent the $350 for a couple pieces of aluminum, of coarse they are going to want to feel something.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;That&#039;s understandable because I didn&#039;t really believe it would be noticeably beneficial for a coupe until I tested first-hand.  Again I was really surprised at the difference.  It&#039;s not huge but it&#039;s undoubtedly there and it&#039;s unquestionably an improvement.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m sure anyone who spends the money on anything will want to believe it works.  However in this case we were given a unit to review so I can assure you that was not a factor in this review.  It&#039;s all about the product and whether it does what it claims to do.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>
  <p>How do you mean more composed? More predictable? I guess I canÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t believe this until I test the difference first hand. I can understand why some people would feel a difference. They spent the $350 for a couple pieces of aluminum, of coarse they are going to want to feel something.</p>
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<p>That&#8217;s understandable because I didn&#8217;t really believe it would be noticeably beneficial for a coupe until I tested first-hand.  Again I was really surprised at the difference.  It&#8217;s not huge but it&#8217;s undoubtedly there and it&#8217;s unquestionably an improvement.</p>

<p>I&#8217;m sure anyone who spends the money on anything will want to believe it works.  However in this case we were given a unit to review so I can assure you that was not a factor in this review.  It&#8217;s all about the product and whether it does what it claims to do.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: rkw</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/10/19/mf-review-m7-understrut-system/comment-page-1/#comment-56220</link>
		<dc:creator>rkw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Berthil, the M7 USS and OMP lower frame brace cannnot be fitted together at the same time. Unless you meant an OMP upper strut brace.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Berthil, the M7 USS and OMP lower frame brace cannnot be fitted together at the same time. Unless you meant an OMP upper strut brace.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: BrianBlack</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/10/19/mf-review-m7-understrut-system/comment-page-1/#comment-56217</link>
		<dc:creator>BrianBlack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;How do you mean more composed?  More predictable?  I guess I can&#039;t believe this until I test the difference first hand.  I can understand why some people would feel a difference.  They spent the $350 for a couple pieces of aluminum, of coarse they are going to want to feel something.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am not trying to discredit anyone who has one, but just ask the question could it be mental?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;-Brian&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you mean more composed?  More predictable?  I guess I can&#8217;t believe this until I test the difference first hand.  I can understand why some people would feel a difference.  They spent the $350 for a couple pieces of aluminum, of coarse they are going to want to feel something.</p>

<p>I am not trying to discredit anyone who has one, but just ask the question could it be mental?</p>

<p>-Brian</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Berthil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Berthil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you rkw for that info, maybe the difference is less on a hatchback but probably the M7 USS will do good work together with the OMP. 10 lbs is not too bad, I&#039;ll get the aluminium GP rear trailing arms, saves 15 lbs :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you rkw for that info, maybe the difference is less on a hatchback but probably the M7 USS will do good work together with the OMP. 10 lbs is not too bad, I&#8217;ll get the aluminium GP rear trailing arms, saves 15 lbs :)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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