Comments on: Car and Driver Review the GP http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/10/25/car-and-driver-review-the-gp/ MotoringFile | MINI news, reviews and opinion. MINI Cooper, Cooper S, Clubman, Countryman Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:14:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: GZ http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/10/25/car-and-driver-review-the-gp/comment-page-1/#comment-58465 GZ Mon, 30 Oct 2006 22:35:37 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/25/car-and-driver-review-the-gp/#comment-58465 <p>Saw one in person today. Much cooler in person. Still needs chrome mirrors/interior chrome. Then would be VERY cool.</p> Saw one in person today. Much cooler in person. Still needs chrome mirrors/interior chrome. Then would be VERY cool.

]]> By: UBeenMiniD http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/10/25/car-and-driver-review-the-gp/comment-page-1/#comment-57766 UBeenMiniD Fri, 27 Oct 2006 20:51:27 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/25/car-and-driver-review-the-gp/#comment-57766 <p>Picking mine up tomorrow and driving it back cross country. Looking forward to it.</p> Picking mine up tomorrow and driving it back cross country. Looking forward to it.

]]> By: Mark Smith http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/10/25/car-and-driver-review-the-gp/comment-page-1/#comment-57404 Mark Smith Thu, 26 Oct 2006 02:16:58 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/25/car-and-driver-review-the-gp/#comment-57404 <p>BMW is always conservative about performance figures. Look at every vehicle they've launched in the last five years versus the press reviews. The press drives better than the manufacturer LOL!</p> BMW is always conservative about performance figures. Look at every vehicle they’ve launched in the last five years versus the press reviews. The press drives better than the manufacturer LOL!

]]> By: SBrcm http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/10/25/car-and-driver-review-the-gp/comment-page-1/#comment-57363 SBrcm Wed, 25 Oct 2006 22:02:20 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/25/car-and-driver-review-the-gp/#comment-57363 <p>The listed weight at 2609lbs. Is that a manufacturer stated weight or an actual, they checked it, weight? I recall all the talk earlier about the weight. But has anyone actually taken the GP and put it on a scale? Gabe, the next time you talk to Todd, see if someone put theirs on a scale during MTTS.</p> <p>I'd like to know the actual weight of the car, minus the driver and with fuel load listed. The reason I say is because my previous MCS weighed in at 2590lbs minus driver with a 5/8 tank of gas.</p> <p>It's still a cool car but I'm wondering what the actual weight savings is over a standard, no options MCS. Not one similiarly equipped or what they based their weight savings on.</p> The listed weight at 2609lbs. Is that a manufacturer stated weight or an actual, they checked it, weight? I recall all the talk earlier about the weight. But has anyone actually taken the GP and put it on a scale? Gabe, the next time you talk to Todd, see if someone put theirs on a scale during MTTS.

I’d like to know the actual weight of the car, minus the driver and with fuel load listed. The reason I say is because my previous MCS weighed in at 2590lbs minus driver with a 5/8 tank of gas.

It’s still a cool car but I’m wondering what the actual weight savings is over a standard, no options MCS. Not one similiarly equipped or what they based their weight savings on.

]]> By: tony T http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/10/25/car-and-driver-review-the-gp/comment-page-1/#comment-57354 tony T Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:27:27 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/25/car-and-driver-review-the-gp/#comment-57354 <p>I failed to break 6.2 with a Mini that had more power than the GP....</p> I failed to break 6.2 with a Mini that had more power than the GP….

]]> By: Josh Wardell http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/10/25/car-and-driver-review-the-gp/comment-page-1/#comment-57345 Josh Wardell Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:40:25 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/25/car-and-driver-review-the-gp/#comment-57345 <p>Ian, I was referring to the updated JCW 210 kit, not whatever may come out for the 07 minis.</p> <p>Magazines do report accurate 0-60 times, however they may spend all day launching the car and only get that best time once. Still it is much more accurate than the manufacturer's claims which vary, for example mini's own are too conservative.</p> <p>Another thing to keep in mind is they are all performed on stock tires. Many of us have upgraded to stickier rubber so the times are even more achievable.</p> Ian, I was referring to the updated JCW 210 kit, not whatever may come out for the 07 minis.

Magazines do report accurate 0-60 times, however they may spend all day launching the car and only get that best time once. Still it is much more accurate than the manufacturer’s claims which vary, for example mini’s own are too conservative.

Another thing to keep in mind is they are all performed on stock tires. Many of us have upgraded to stickier rubber so the times are even more achievable.

]]> By: Nathaniel Salzman http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/10/25/car-and-driver-review-the-gp/comment-page-1/#comment-57343 Nathaniel Salzman Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:29:37 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/25/car-and-driver-review-the-gp/#comment-57343 <p>All the accounts of the GP really make me want to do the JCW engine conversion, brakes, and suspension on my MCS over the next few years. It won't have the weight savings or the better aerodynamics, but I've got a serious JCW itch now. My bone-stock car already feels like I completely own the road, so I can only imagine how addicting the JCW must be.</p> <p>Gabe / DB, any word on the future availability of the current JCW engine kit?</p> All the accounts of the GP really make me want to do the JCW engine conversion, brakes, and suspension on my MCS over the next few years. It won’t have the weight savings or the better aerodynamics, but I’ve got a serious JCW itch now. My bone-stock car already feels like I completely own the road, so I can only imagine how addicting the JCW must be.

Gabe / DB, any word on the future availability of the current JCW engine kit?

]]> By: FrankInMiami http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/10/25/car-and-driver-review-the-gp/comment-page-1/#comment-57336 FrankInMiami Wed, 25 Oct 2006 19:45:46 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/25/car-and-driver-review-the-gp/#comment-57336 <p>A back seat would have made this car an extremely tempting proposition.</p> A back seat would have made this car an extremely tempting proposition.

]]> By: tony T http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/10/25/car-and-driver-review-the-gp/comment-page-1/#comment-57333 tony T Wed, 25 Oct 2006 19:43:46 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/25/car-and-driver-review-the-gp/#comment-57333 <p>Sorry, i dont believe that 0-60 time. Wouldnt be less than 6.3 or 6.4.</p> Sorry, i dont believe that 0-60 time. Wouldnt be less than 6.3 or 6.4.

]]> By: Ric Stofer http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/10/25/car-and-driver-review-the-gp/comment-page-1/#comment-57287 Ric Stofer Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:02:17 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/25/car-and-driver-review-the-gp/#comment-57287 <p>"(a rear strut-tower brace now occupies that space)" I guess I'll have to send mine back, it didn't come with that.;-)</p> “(a rear strut-tower brace now occupies that space)” I guess I’ll have to send mine back, it didn’t come with that.;-)

]]> By: GZ http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/10/25/car-and-driver-review-the-gp/comment-page-1/#comment-57278 GZ Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:09:24 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/25/car-and-driver-review-the-gp/#comment-57278 <p>Josh. I never know what to believe on these stats. According to one publication a standard S did 0-60 in 6.2 so who knows about 05' JCW. Mine was easily as fast as my 03' 3.0 BMW Z-4 sport which was supposedly 0-60 in 5.7</p> <p>I'm hoping that the 07'JCW breaks 5.5 with the guesses I've read pertaining to it's potential output. Can't wait to see/drive!</p> Josh. I never know what to believe on these stats. According to one publication a standard S did 0-60 in 6.2 so who knows about 05′ JCW. Mine was easily as fast as my 03′ 3.0 BMW Z-4 sport which was supposedly 0-60 in 5.7

I’m hoping that the 07′JCW breaks 5.5 with the guesses I’ve read pertaining to it’s potential output. Can’t wait to see/drive!

]]> By: Ian C. http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/10/25/car-and-driver-review-the-gp/comment-page-1/#comment-57277 Ian C. Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:08:31 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/25/car-and-driver-review-the-gp/#comment-57277 <p>Josh - you mean the 6-second barrier? ;)</p> <p>I feel sure that <strong>when</strong> the R56 JCW upgrade is finally made available, it'll be a good match for the GP - maybe even beat it.</p> <p>But meanwhile, GP owners drive their car <strong>now</strong> - and they get the unique looks too :)</p> Josh – you mean the 6-second barrier? ;)

I feel sure that when the R56 JCW upgrade is finally made available, it’ll be a good match for the GP – maybe even beat it.

But meanwhile, GP owners drive their car now – and they get the unique looks too :)

]]> By: Josh Wardell http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/10/25/car-and-driver-review-the-gp/comment-page-1/#comment-57275 Josh Wardell Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:23:06 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/25/car-and-driver-review-the-gp/#comment-57275 <p>A nice positive review. Great to see a real number for its acceleration. C&D rated the 03 JCW 6.4/14.7. They never rated one with the updated kit. Glad to see the GP break the 5-second barrier. But I still wonder what the updated kit can do? Probably not far from the GP.</p> A nice positive review. Great to see a real number for its acceleration. C&D rated the 03 JCW 6.4/14.7. They never rated one with the updated kit. Glad to see the GP break the 5-second barrier. But I still wonder what the updated kit can do? Probably not far from the GP.

]]> By: GZ http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/10/25/car-and-driver-review-the-gp/comment-page-1/#comment-57273 GZ Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:11:38 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/25/car-and-driver-review-the-gp/#comment-57273 <p>A pair of chrome mirror covers would do wonders.</p> A pair of chrome mirror covers would do wonders.

]]> By: Gabe http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/10/25/car-and-driver-review-the-gp/comment-page-1/#comment-57270 Gabe Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:37:18 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/25/car-and-driver-review-the-gp/#comment-57270 <p>If their target was $35k - 40k, I would agree. But considering the current price I think they hit the mark rather well.</p> If their target was $35k – 40k, I would agree. But considering the current price I think they hit the mark rather well.

]]> By: Matt http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/10/25/car-and-driver-review-the-gp/comment-page-1/#comment-57269 Matt Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:33:20 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/25/car-and-driver-review-the-gp/#comment-57269 <p>I can't help but think they could have done a little more with this car. Maybe its just me.</p> I can’t help but think they could have done a little more with this car. Maybe its just me.

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