Comments on: The New MINI (Official UK Launch Details) http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/11/01/the-new-mini-uk-launch/ MotoringFile | MINI news, reviews and opinion. MINI Cooper, Cooper S, Clubman, Countryman Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:14:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mini owner to be! soon. - MINI2 - MINI Forum http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/11/01/the-new-mini-uk-launch/comment-page-1/#comment-907419 Mini owner to be! soon. - MINI2 - MINI Forum Mon, 29 Aug 2011 20:19:47 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/31/the-new-mini-uk-launch/#comment-907419 <p>[...] Did the R50/R53 run alongside the R56 on the production line for a couple of months? From a MotoringFile article ... Quote: November 18 2006 marks the launch date of the second generation new MINI, on [...]</p> [...] Did the R50/R53 run alongside the R56 on the production line for a couple of months? From a MotoringFile article … Quote: November 18 2006 marks the launch date of the second generation new MINI, on [...]

]]> By: Gabe http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/11/01/the-new-mini-uk-launch/comment-page-1/#comment-107543 Gabe Fri, 30 Mar 2007 20:11:53 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/31/the-new-mini-uk-launch/#comment-107543 <blockquote> <p>OMG! I want a new one now…the interior is just incredible, is the 07 convertible will be available with the changes? As far as I know they weren’t going to change it until 08.</p> </blockquote> <p>The new MINI Convertible will be available in the US around February/March of 2009.</p>

OMG! I want a new one now…the interior is just incredible, is the 07 convertible will be available with the changes? As far as I know they weren’t going to change it until 08.

The new MINI Convertible will be available in the US around February/March of 2009.

]]> By: lTZMTOR http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/11/01/the-new-mini-uk-launch/comment-page-1/#comment-59476 lTZMTOR Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:02:53 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/31/the-new-mini-uk-launch/#comment-59476 <p>Dave, you hit the nail on the head but I'm just not liking some of the changes I see. Yup I loved the Porsche 356 and I hated the 901/911 when it came out but over the years it's gone through so many refinements it's a great car now. Who knew the 911 would become the greatest race car ever! I recently had a ride in a neighbors new Carrera.... WOW!</p> <p>Credentials or not it's all about personal taste in the end. The Pet Rock is an prime example of that, if you are old enough to remember that phenomenon.</p> <p>Nice to have a friendly discussion.</p> <p>Long Live Stan Freberg!</p> Dave, you hit the nail on the head but I’m just not liking some of the changes I see. Yup I loved the Porsche 356 and I hated the 901/911 when it came out but over the years it’s gone through so many refinements it’s a great car now. Who knew the 911 would become the greatest race car ever! I recently had a ride in a neighbors new Carrera…. WOW!

Credentials or not it’s all about personal taste in the end. The Pet Rock is an prime example of that, if you are old enough to remember that phenomenon.

Nice to have a friendly discussion.

Long Live Stan Freberg!

]]> By: Dave Mac Mini http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/11/01/the-new-mini-uk-launch/comment-page-1/#comment-59444 Dave Mac Mini Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:27:24 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/31/the-new-mini-uk-launch/#comment-59444 <p>Hey ITZMTOR, thanks for that information. I agree that with your credentials you should have a good eye for a good design. One thing we can all agree on is that we all like the MINI or we would not be posting to this board. It is a great car now, and my hope is that the new one will be even better. I do find that many people do not like change, and look at a restyle on any car as a negative thing, and then they get used to the new one and accept it for what it is, and all is well again. Many times I have read in magazine reviews that "we like the old model better". Human nature I guess. We are comfortable with familiar things.</p> Hey ITZMTOR, thanks for that information. I agree that with your credentials you should have a good eye for a good design. One thing we can all agree on is that we all like the MINI or we would not be posting to this board. It is a great car now, and my hope is that the new one will be even better. I do find that many people do not like change, and look at a restyle on any car as a negative thing, and then they get used to the new one and accept it for what it is, and all is well again. Many times I have read in magazine reviews that “we like the old model better”. Human nature I guess. We are comfortable with familiar things.

]]> By: DB http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/11/01/the-new-mini-uk-launch/comment-page-1/#comment-59403 DB Fri, 03 Nov 2006 19:11:12 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/31/the-new-mini-uk-launch/#comment-59403 <p>You are correct. These changes will not be available on the convertibles in the '07 model year.</p> You are correct. These changes will not be available on the convertibles in the ’07 model year.

]]> By: Sue http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/11/01/the-new-mini-uk-launch/comment-page-1/#comment-59398 Sue Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:33:25 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/31/the-new-mini-uk-launch/#comment-59398 <p>OMG! I want a new one now...the interior is just incredible, is the 07 convertible will be available with the changes? As far as I know they weren't going to change it until 08.</p> OMG! I want a new one now…the interior is just incredible, is the 07 convertible will be available with the changes? As far as I know they weren’t going to change it until 08.

]]> By: lTZMTOR http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/11/01/the-new-mini-uk-launch/comment-page-1/#comment-59363 lTZMTOR Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:23:06 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/31/the-new-mini-uk-launch/#comment-59363 <p>Dave, I was only commenting that as a designer I know that sometimes a first impression can be misleading and as you said 2D pics are tough to get a read on. But usually car promo shots are a best foot forward type thing.</p> <p>My thoughts did not state that anybody who thinks differently is a fool or that I was some design guru just merely my thoughts as a graphic designer. If you like what you see fabulous!</p> <p>I do have 35+ years in my profession as a graphic designer so I do feel a little more qualified to discuss "design" than the average bear but personal taste is another thing.</p> <p>My field of expertise is: logos, architectural signage/wayfinding, print and so on. Projects I worked on: Downtown Disney/wayfinding, lead designer Graumans Chinese historical rehab/Mann's Chinese 6/ interior and exterior signage ... (not the Mann's Chinese 6 marquee crap), Hyatt's Alo Plaza project/interior/exterior signage/wayfinding...... blah blah blah!</p> <p>If you click on my WWW shown here you'll see some of my work. I closed my design resource company and website last week to concentrate on other pursuits such as my MINI store and travel.</p> <p>............................................................................................................</p> <p>Gabe... Didn't mean to be argumentative just noting that when I see "Written By" thats how I take it. Maybe if it said "Transcribed By" but then I like eggs?</p> <p>As far as the other comments about MF... I should just keep my thoughts to myself... MF is a great resource, very well designed and easy to navigate unlike some sites/clubs I visit. KUDOS! I can only hope my new venture is one tenth as successful or as warmly received.</p> <p>RB</p> Dave, I was only commenting that as a designer I know that sometimes a first impression can be misleading and as you said 2D pics are tough to get a read on. But usually car promo shots are a best foot forward type thing.

My thoughts did not state that anybody who thinks differently is a fool or that I was some design guru just merely my thoughts as a graphic designer. If you like what you see fabulous!

I do have 35+ years in my profession as a graphic designer so I do feel a little more qualified to discuss “design” than the average bear but personal taste is another thing.

My field of expertise is: logos, architectural signage/wayfinding, print and so on. Projects I worked on: Downtown Disney/wayfinding, lead designer Graumans Chinese historical rehab/Mann’s Chinese 6/ interior and exterior signage … (not the Mann’s Chinese 6 marquee crap), Hyatt’s Alo Plaza project/interior/exterior signage/wayfinding…… blah blah blah!

If you click on my WWW shown here you’ll see some of my work. I closed my design resource company and website last week to concentrate on other pursuits such as my MINI store and travel.

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Gabe… Didn’t mean to be argumentative just noting that when I see “Written By” thats how I take it. Maybe if it said “Transcribed By” but then I like eggs?

As far as the other comments about MF… I should just keep my thoughts to myself… MF is a great resource, very well designed and easy to navigate unlike some sites/clubs I visit. KUDOS! I can only hope my new venture is one tenth as successful or as warmly received.

RB

]]> By: Karl http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/11/01/the-new-mini-uk-launch/comment-page-1/#comment-59309 Karl Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:40:35 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/31/the-new-mini-uk-launch/#comment-59309 <p>£16,000 for a basic Cooper S and NO air-conditioning? Are they for real? Oh, and lets not even start about the 'official' 41mpg for the S either... I think we all know it will be more like 28mpg (if you are lucky).</p> <p>Otherwise, it all sounds very good.</p> £16,000 for a basic Cooper S and NO air-conditioning? Are they for real? Oh, and lets not even start about the ‘official’ 41mpg for the S either… I think we all know it will be more like 28mpg (if you are lucky).

Otherwise, it all sounds very good.

]]> By: eto http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/11/01/the-new-mini-uk-launch/comment-page-1/#comment-59011 eto Thu, 02 Nov 2006 03:55:12 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/31/the-new-mini-uk-launch/#comment-59011 <p>Wow... very long read. The MINI owner traits list was interesting. I also found it interesting that the R56 was referred to as MINI Mark II early in the press release.</p> Wow… very long read. The MINI owner traits list was interesting. I also found it interesting that the R56 was referred to as MINI Mark II early in the press release.

]]> By: Gabe http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/11/01/the-new-mini-uk-launch/comment-page-1/#comment-58973 Gabe Thu, 02 Nov 2006 00:29:08 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/31/the-new-mini-uk-launch/#comment-58973 <blockquote> <p>Written by MF Staff…Not CC’d from BMW!</p> </blockquote> <p>I really don't understand how you are confused about this. Any press release we post is labeled "Official News" at the top. Then at the bottom it specifically says "Source: MINI Press".</p> <p>MF Staff is what we use when one of us posts content that is not really authored by any MF writer (press releases, links, etc). It's been like this for years.</p>

Written by MF Staff…Not CC’d from BMW!

I really don’t understand how you are confused about this. Any press release we post is labeled “Official News” at the top. Then at the bottom it specifically says “Source: MINI Press”.

MF Staff is what we use when one of us posts content that is not really authored by any MF writer (press releases, links, etc). It’s been like this for years.

]]> By: Dave Mac Mini http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/11/01/the-new-mini-uk-launch/comment-page-1/#comment-58957 Dave Mac Mini Wed, 01 Nov 2006 23:07:16 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/31/the-new-mini-uk-launch/#comment-58957 <p>ITZMTOR, what do you design? You seem to imply that your opinion should carry more weight because you are a "designer" but without knowing what you design one cannot make that assumption. Also, since virtually no one that posts here has actually seen the car, how can any of you possibly critique it? 2D photos and videos do not give a true picture of what the car really looks like. From the pictures, I like it, but I will need to see it and drive it before making up my mind about it.</p> ITZMTOR, what do you design? You seem to imply that your opinion should carry more weight because you are a “designer” but without knowing what you design one cannot make that assumption. Also, since virtually no one that posts here has actually seen the car, how can any of you possibly critique it? 2D photos and videos do not give a true picture of what the car really looks like. From the pictures, I like it, but I will need to see it and drive it before making up my mind about it.

]]> By: lTZMTOR http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/11/01/the-new-mini-uk-launch/comment-page-1/#comment-58868 lTZMTOR Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:49:13 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/31/the-new-mini-uk-launch/#comment-58868 <p>Correct me if I'm wrong but it says: Written by MF Staff...Not CC'd from BMW! Maybe a different designation is in order?</p> <p>I will CK out past articles to see if my observation is erroneous and if it is I apologize but maybe I expect more than MF is willing to give anymore.</p> <p>RB</p> Correct me if I’m wrong but it says: Written by MF Staff…Not CC’d from BMW! Maybe a different designation is in order?

I will CK out past articles to see if my observation is erroneous and if it is I apologize but maybe I expect more than MF is willing to give anymore.

RB

]]> By: Gabe http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/11/01/the-new-mini-uk-launch/comment-page-1/#comment-58861 Gabe Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:29:05 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/31/the-new-mini-uk-launch/#comment-58861 <blockquote> <p>Says Written by MF Staff…….. and a very nice write up it is… a tad Tolstoy-ish… but seems more like BMW/PR. Even some of the crappy auto mags out there do pros and cons. Not sure if a P&C was done here on MF by another as I have been here less lately. Seems that edge I liked from a few years back is gone.</p> </blockquote> <p>As with all articles categorized as "Official News", this is an official BMW press release. This is how we've been doing things for years. If you feel some sort of "edge is gone" you may want to look at the past few months worth of articles posted over the last 30 days. If you want some sort of pro and con in every single post I urge you to write it in the comments section.</p>

Says Written by MF Staff…….. and a very nice write up it is… a tad Tolstoy-ish… but seems more like BMW/PR. Even some of the crappy auto mags out there do pros and cons. Not sure if a P&C was done here on MF by another as I have been here less lately. Seems that edge I liked from a few years back is gone.

As with all articles categorized as “Official News”, this is an official BMW press release. This is how we’ve been doing things for years. If you feel some sort of “edge is gone” you may want to look at the past few months worth of articles posted over the last 30 days. If you want some sort of pro and con in every single post I urge you to write it in the comments section.

]]> By: giacomo http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/11/01/the-new-mini-uk-launch/comment-page-1/#comment-58860 giacomo Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:24:21 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/31/the-new-mini-uk-launch/#comment-58860 <p>Took words out of my mouth ITZMTOR. I agree. Where is the true newness, the advancement of real design? Is just a restyling, and bad one at that, now is much more comprimised looking and cartoony looking. This is good? What is really better about this car design now? REALLY better?</p> Took words out of my mouth ITZMTOR. I agree. Where is the true newness, the advancement of real design? Is just a restyling, and bad one at that, now is much more comprimised looking and cartoony looking. This is good? What is really better about this car design now? REALLY better?

]]> By: 05DSMCS http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/11/01/the-new-mini-uk-launch/comment-page-1/#comment-58858 05DSMCS Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:14:12 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/31/the-new-mini-uk-launch/#comment-58858 <p>(said in Comic Book Guy voice)...longest post EVER!</p> (said in Comic Book Guy voice)…longest post EVER!

]]> By: lTZMTOR http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/11/01/the-new-mini-uk-launch/comment-page-1/#comment-58855 lTZMTOR Wed, 01 Nov 2006 15:55:18 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/31/the-new-mini-uk-launch/#comment-58855 <p>LEGGO MINI... At first I wasn't sure if I liked what I was seeing... Then as a designer I thought I'll give this a chance so I tried to find something I liked... the more I see it the more it looks like a Scion bad version of the car. Lotsa new and supposedly better stuff but it's just off. The roof is too squatty, not aggressive as noted here, the headlight position is really odd the sidelight markers and center stack are just bizarre.</p> <p>Then it came to me... itsa Leggo version of the car!</p> <p>Let's see... OLD..... 1. put in key... 2. twist key to start... NEW... 1. put in fob... 2. push button to start??????? And the difference is .............???? Another car markers system... get in car push button.</p> <p>Says Written by MF Staff........ and a very nice write up it is... a tad Tolstoy-ish... but seems more like BMW/PR. Even some of the crappy auto mags out there do pros and cons. Not sure if a P&C was done here on MF by another as I have been here less lately. Seems that edge I liked from a few years back is gone.</p> <p>Hope this isn't considered derogatory commentary.</p> LEGGO MINI… At first I wasn’t sure if I liked what I was seeing… Then as a designer I thought I’ll give this a chance so I tried to find something I liked… the more I see it the more it looks like a Scion bad version of the car. Lotsa new and supposedly better stuff but it’s just off. The roof is too squatty, not aggressive as noted here, the headlight position is really odd the sidelight markers and center stack are just bizarre.

Then it came to me… itsa Leggo version of the car!

Let’s see… OLD….. 1. put in key… 2. twist key to start… NEW… 1. put in fob… 2. push button to start??????? And the difference is ………….???? Another car markers system… get in car push button.

Says Written by MF Staff…….. and a very nice write up it is… a tad Tolstoy-ish… but seems more like BMW/PR. Even some of the crappy auto mags out there do pros and cons. Not sure if a P&C was done here on MF by another as I have been here less lately. Seems that edge I liked from a few years back is gone.

Hope this isn’t considered derogatory commentary.

]]> By: Pete http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/11/01/the-new-mini-uk-launch/comment-page-1/#comment-58846 Pete Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:19:23 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/31/the-new-mini-uk-launch/#comment-58846 <p>FYI- that UK gallon is equal to about 1.2 US gallons and those EU standards are different than our EPA's. Still, it's an improvement just the same...</p> FYI- that UK gallon is equal to about 1.2 US gallons and those EU standards are different than our EPA’s. Still, it’s an improvement just the same…

]]> By: Kurt Collins http://www.motoringfile.com/2006/11/01/the-new-mini-uk-launch/comment-page-1/#comment-58824 Kurt Collins Wed, 01 Nov 2006 11:45:52 +0000 http://motoringfile.com/2006/10/31/the-new-mini-uk-launch/#comment-58824 <p>Interesting that the MINI Cooper S now gets almost 41 MPG. :-)</p> Interesting that the MINI Cooper S now gets almost 41 MPG. :-)

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