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		<title>By: MotoringFile &#187; Archive &#187; More BMW 135i Reviews Hit the Web</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/01/18/the-1-series-question-gets-more-interesting/comment-page-2/#comment-174164</link>
		<dc:creator>MotoringFile &#187; Archive &#187; More BMW 135i Reviews Hit the Web</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 06:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MotoringFile &#187; Archive &#187; The BMW 1 Series Coupe: Let&#8217;s Hear Your Thoughts</title>
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		<dc:creator>MotoringFile &#187; Archive &#187; The BMW 1 Series Coupe: Let&#8217;s Hear Your Thoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 05:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] years now. Since the BMW 1 Series five-door hatch was released a couple years ago, we&#8217;ve asked our readers several times how a small BMW coupe would impact your MINI ownership. Well today is the [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] years now. Since the BMW 1 Series five-door hatch was released a couple years ago, we&#8217;ve asked our readers several times how a small BMW coupe would impact your MINI ownership. Well today is the [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 15:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;More on the 1 series coming to America on Car and Driver.com, including pics of the coupe:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.caranddriver.com/carnews/12445/spied-2009-bmw-1-series-coupe.html&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More on the 1 series coming to America on Car and Driver.com, including pics of the coupe:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.caranddriver.com/carnews/12445/spied-2009-bmw-1-series-coupe.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.caranddriver.com/carnews/12445/spied-2009-bmw-1-series-coupe.html</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 14:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The 1-series is definatly one of those cars that you love the look of or hate the look of. Personally i&#039;m a lover. As for comparing to the mini, it&#039;s a close call if you like the looks of both. However I urge you all to just sit in the drivers seat of a 130i M-Sport if you can. If you don&#039;t fall in love with the car straight away then you never will. But the way the seat holds you in place, the way your key slots into the dashboard before you push the start button... But press the start button and the car takes you to a whole new level as the straight six engine starts to purr.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Try it. You&#039;ll love it. It&#039;s a whole new level to owning a mini!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 1-series is definatly one of those cars that you love the look of or hate the look of. Personally i&#8217;m a lover. As for comparing to the mini, it&#8217;s a close call if you like the looks of both. However I urge you all to just sit in the drivers seat of a 130i M-Sport if you can. If you don&#8217;t fall in love with the car straight away then you never will. But the way the seat holds you in place, the way your key slots into the dashboard before you push the start button&#8230; But press the start button and the car takes you to a whole new level as the straight six engine starts to purr.</p>

<p>Try it. You&#8217;ll love it. It&#8217;s a whole new level to owning a mini!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mark H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Gabe - only a two car garage - poor you!
I sleep with one eye open as my car sleeps out on the streets of Paris where people really use there bumpers and my poor baby is under threat of theft!
Would seriously love a garage!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gabe &#8211; only a two car garage &#8211; poor you!
I sleep with one eye open as my car sleeps out on the streets of Paris where people really use there bumpers and my poor baby is under threat of theft!
Would seriously love a garage!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Gabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;For those that haven&#039;t read the about page on MF or haven&#039;t heard me wax poetically on WRR, I have a long history with BMWs.  I&#039;ve grown up with them since the late 70&#039;s. Some of my first memories as a child are sitting in the back seat of my dad&#039;s &#039;72 2002 zipping around corners on Saturday mornings.  I also have plenty fond memories of helping my dad under the hood of the old &#039;02 as well.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So as you can imagine I&#039;ve never thought of a BMW as some vain status symbol.  Since I was a kid I looked at them as well engineered machines that focused on performance and driving pleasure first and foremost.  So when I hear that people won&#039;t even think about buying a BMW it saddens me knowing that (for a few folks) the brand has been hijacked by a part of the population that simply looks at it a a status symbol.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve personally owned five BMWs over the years and currently own a fantastic 3 Series wagon (sport package w/manual!).  However, while I&#039;m a big fan of the current crop of BMWs, I&#039;ve long held out for a return to the formula of the BMW 2002.  Small, high performance, efficient, and aimed squarely at true driving enthusiasts.  Because of this, idea of a 130i or 135i is incredibly interesting to me.  In fact my first thought when I saw this car and heard it was coming to the US was - how could I not get it.  This is everything I&#039;ve pined for since I was a teenager.  Perfect balance, high output inline 6, RWD - all the ingredients are there.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But I live in an urban area with only a two car garage.  A garage I&#039;m incredibly lucky to have considering the local space constraints.  This means owning three cars is really out of the question (especially considering we only really need one).  So would I really consider selling my MINI for a 135i coupe or hatchback?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;At this point the answer is a resounding no.  For one, our 3 Series wagon will need replacing well before the MINI (one has 77k the other 15k).  And it&#039;s through that replacement that I&#039;ll likely get my fixed for the BMW 3.0L 300hp turbo inline six.  Secondly my MINI is a very personal expression at this point.  Selling it would be an incredibly hard thing to do without replacing it with another.  And as much as a 300hp 1 Series interests me, the MINI fits my lifestyle like a glove.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those that haven&#8217;t read the about page on MF or haven&#8217;t heard me wax poetically on WRR, I have a long history with BMWs.  I&#8217;ve grown up with them since the late 70&#8242;s. Some of my first memories as a child are sitting in the back seat of my dad&#8217;s &#8217;72 2002 zipping around corners on Saturday mornings.  I also have plenty fond memories of helping my dad under the hood of the old &#8217;02 as well.</p>

<p>So as you can imagine I&#8217;ve never thought of a BMW as some vain status symbol.  Since I was a kid I looked at them as well engineered machines that focused on performance and driving pleasure first and foremost.  So when I hear that people won&#8217;t even think about buying a BMW it saddens me knowing that (for a few folks) the brand has been hijacked by a part of the population that simply looks at it a a status symbol.</p>

<p>I&#8217;ve personally owned five BMWs over the years and currently own a fantastic 3 Series wagon (sport package w/manual!).  However, while I&#8217;m a big fan of the current crop of BMWs, I&#8217;ve long held out for a return to the formula of the BMW 2002.  Small, high performance, efficient, and aimed squarely at true driving enthusiasts.  Because of this, idea of a 130i or 135i is incredibly interesting to me.  In fact my first thought when I saw this car and heard it was coming to the US was &#8211; how could I not get it.  This is everything I&#8217;ve pined for since I was a teenager.  Perfect balance, high output inline 6, RWD &#8211; all the ingredients are there.</p>

<p>But I live in an urban area with only a two car garage.  A garage I&#8217;m incredibly lucky to have considering the local space constraints.  This means owning three cars is really out of the question (especially considering we only really need one).  So would I really consider selling my MINI for a 135i coupe or hatchback?</p>

<p>At this point the answer is a resounding no.  For one, our 3 Series wagon will need replacing well before the MINI (one has 77k the other 15k).  And it&#8217;s through that replacement that I&#8217;ll likely get my fixed for the BMW 3.0L 300hp turbo inline six.  Secondly my MINI is a very personal expression at this point.  Selling it would be an incredibly hard thing to do without replacing it with another.  And as much as a 300hp 1 Series interests me, the MINI fits my lifestyle like a glove.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: somake</title>
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		<dc:creator>somake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 04:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;when i tried the mini (jcw 2004) i had real adrenaline sensations . and ..i bought it !!! until then , cars where just transportortation metal cans . I was riding motorcycles instead . Mini is kind of a &quot;mautorbike&quot; .
BMW 1 will never be as enthusiasmatic . I tried the 130i ; Good car real huge motor but not the same driving experience . We almost bought one ( 120d ) for my wife , and finally got her a Freelander ...
So how can you replace all that ? That&#039;s why i bougnt 2006jcw and build it as &quot;my gp&quot; .. aftermaket turbo will be next step ! Any good infos about Gabe ? 
Anyway two very different cars two markets no worry for mcs or one series . Just replace my jcw by a ... &quot;getrag&quot; 350hp beast ....or DIMyself !&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when i tried the mini (jcw 2004) i had real adrenaline sensations . and ..i bought it !!! until then , cars where just transportortation metal cans . I was riding motorcycles instead . Mini is kind of a &#8220;mautorbike&#8221; .
BMW 1 will never be as enthusiasmatic . I tried the 130i ; Good car real huge motor but not the same driving experience . We almost bought one ( 120d ) for my wife , and finally got her a Freelander &#8230;
So how can you replace all that ? That&#8217;s why i bougnt 2006jcw and build it as &#8220;my gp&#8221; .. aftermaket turbo will be next step ! Any good infos about Gabe ? 
Anyway two very different cars two markets no worry for mcs or one series . Just replace my jcw by a &#8230; &#8220;getrag&#8221; 350hp beast &#8230;.or DIMyself !</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Chrissy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chrissy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;My MINI gives me so much more than a ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œdriving experienceÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â - thereÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s the smiles every time I look at it or get in it, thereÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s the camaraderie with so many great MINI friends (for example).

I donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t see that happening for a ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œBMW pugÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â - which is the attitude the little guy is likely to get from the ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œgrown up BMWÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â owners.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I totally agree with this.  The 1 series looks like a BMW from the front (which is intended) and will appeal to those looking for performance and the BMW styling.  Personally, my mum was telling me to get a 328 instead of my MINI but you just can&#039;t compare.  The look is entirely different.  Even if it handles amazing and has all this super power with 300 hp it will still be a BMW.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Those looking for a car with culture and style not to mention a really unique group of owners, you will get a MINI and that&#039;s how it always will be.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I just asked a coworker (I work at a MINI dealership) and he said that he&#039;d take the 1 series over the MINI EXCEPT if MINI came out with an AWD.  Whatever, I love my MINI, AWD or not :).&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>My MINI gives me so much more than a ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œdriving experienceÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â &#8211; thereÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s the smiles every time I look at it or get in it, thereÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s the camaraderie with so many great MINI friends (for example).

I donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t see that happening for a ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œBMW pugÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â &#8211; which is the attitude the little guy is likely to get from the ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œgrown up BMWÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â owners.</blockquote>

<p>I totally agree with this.  The 1 series looks like a BMW from the front (which is intended) and will appeal to those looking for performance and the BMW styling.  Personally, my mum was telling me to get a 328 instead of my MINI but you just can&#8217;t compare.  The look is entirely different.  Even if it handles amazing and has all this super power with 300 hp it will still be a BMW.</p>

<p>Those looking for a car with culture and style not to mention a really unique group of owners, you will get a MINI and that&#8217;s how it always will be.</p>

<p>I just asked a coworker (I work at a MINI dealership) and he said that he&#8217;d take the 1 series over the MINI EXCEPT if MINI came out with an AWD.  Whatever, I love my MINI, AWD or not :).</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: flyga</title>
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		<dc:creator>flyga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 21:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I love my MINI&#039;s size and style, but hate FWD.
So MINI size with RWD and 300hp is reason for me to upgrade, or maybe this is what the MINI should have been all along--a 1 series! Given I track my MINI often, RWD is reason for me to change.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love my MINI&#8217;s size and style, but hate FWD.
So MINI size with RWD and 300hp is reason for me to upgrade, or maybe this is what the MINI should have been all along&#8211;a 1 series! Given I track my MINI often, RWD is reason for me to change.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve forgotten the little Audi b/c, as with the A3, if I want to buy a Golf, I&#039;d buy a Golf. Especially now that the GTI is actually more of a driver&#039;s car for a lot less.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I like cars with bespoke platforms. The MINI is only MINI&#039;s. And BMW doesn&#039;t share any platforms with anyone but itself.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We&#039;ll see if the new MINI can keep its charm. And if BMW actually brings the 1 series here.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve forgotten the little Audi b/c, as with the A3, if I want to buy a Golf, I&#8217;d buy a Golf. Especially now that the GTI is actually more of a driver&#8217;s car for a lot less.</p>

<p>I like cars with bespoke platforms. The MINI is only MINI&#8217;s. And BMW doesn&#8217;t share any platforms with anyone but itself.</p>

<p>We&#8217;ll see if the new MINI can keep its charm. And if BMW actually brings the 1 series here.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: MMMMini...</title>
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		<dc:creator>MMMMini...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;!!!ARE WE FORGETTING!!!
&lt;strong&gt;* NEW Audi A1 .... 2008 Audi A1 ....&lt;/strong&gt;**&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Don&#039;t get me wrong.  I love MINIs. LOVE UM!!! 
The BMW one series... &quot;Not so much&quot; - Borat&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Audi A 1 - ...Prehaps,
... Quattro... Bi-turbo... and hopefully MINI-ish.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Just my &quot;2 cents,&quot;... &quot;anyone have change?&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>!!!ARE WE FORGETTING!!!
<strong>* NEW Audi A1 &#8230;. 2008 Audi A1 &#8230;.</strong>**</p>

<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong.  I love MINIs. LOVE UM!!! 
The BMW one series&#8230; &#8220;Not so much&#8221; &#8211; Borat</p>

<p>Audi A 1 &#8211; &#8230;Prehaps,
&#8230; Quattro&#8230; Bi-turbo&#8230; and hopefully MINI-ish.</p>

<p>Just my &#8220;2 cents,&#8221;&#8230; &#8220;anyone have change?&#8221;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: iNomis</title>
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		<dc:creator>iNomis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 18:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was just looking at the specs of the current 130i which is a tick slower 0-62 (6.1 vs. 6.0) than this new one. What caught my eye was the 80-120 in 4th and 5th at 5.8s and 7.3s seconds. Take a look at the R56 spec sheet... 5.5s and 7.0s .  I&#039;m sure the 130i is geared for more speed and off it&#039;s torque a bit for these tests but other than off the line (where FWD kills the MINI) the R56 MCS is likely very close to the 130i in accelleration. You will need the 135i and that&#039;s another 5k. Interesting...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just looking at the specs of the current 130i which is a tick slower 0-62 (6.1 vs. 6.0) than this new one. What caught my eye was the 80-120 in 4th and 5th at 5.8s and 7.3s seconds. Take a look at the R56 spec sheet&#8230; 5.5s and 7.0s .  I&#8217;m sure the 130i is geared for more speed and off it&#8217;s torque a bit for these tests but other than off the line (where FWD kills the MINI) the R56 MCS is likely very close to the 130i in accelleration. You will need the 135i and that&#8217;s another 5k. Interesting&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: BartMack</title>
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		<dc:creator>BartMack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m excited that the 1 series is finally coming over- and I&#039;m super excited that BMW has the guts to put the I6 biturbo in it!! Somewhere back there blalor said the MINI had made him more of a driving enthusiast and thus more appreciative of BMWs as well- the very same is true for me.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I actually have an 07 335ci in production right now with the same I6 biturbo, but if the 1 series was available now I might have gotten it instead of the 3. Doesn&#039;t really impact my MINI- I&#039;m keeping that too.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m excited that the 1 series is finally coming over- and I&#8217;m super excited that BMW has the guts to put the I6 biturbo in it!! Somewhere back there blalor said the MINI had made him more of a driving enthusiast and thus more appreciative of BMWs as well- the very same is true for me.</p>

<p>I actually have an 07 335ci in production right now with the same I6 biturbo, but if the 1 series was available now I might have gotten it instead of the 3. Doesn&#8217;t really impact my MINI- I&#8217;m keeping that too.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: TOS</title>
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		<dc:creator>TOS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 14:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There&#039;s no mistake that it&#039;s a Mini when it passes you.  The rest are just a guess as to their make and model.  That&#039;s why I bought a Mini.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Mark H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I forgot to mention that when i ordered my Mini GP the salesman at the BMW garage tried to convince me that the 1 series would be a better car for me! However in the UK the salesman can only sell either Mini or BMW and not both. I politely declined and was passed over to his Mini colleague.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to mention that when i ordered my Mini GP the salesman at the BMW garage tried to convince me that the 1 series would be a better car for me! However in the UK the salesman can only sell either Mini or BMW and not both. I politely declined and was passed over to his Mini colleague.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 08:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I recently ordered a 2007 Mini. Hopefully, it&#039;ll arrive in March, as promised. But my immediate feelings upon seeing this BMW 1 (a vehicle I&#039;d forgotten about), were a pang of regret at having placed my order, followed by a thought of selling my Mini in about a year when this comes out. It looks hot, is bigger, and I&#039;m sure power won&#039;t be a problem.
That said, I haven&#039;t experienced daily ownership of a Mini, so all this could change.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently ordered a 2007 Mini. Hopefully, it&#8217;ll arrive in March, as promised. But my immediate feelings upon seeing this BMW 1 (a vehicle I&#8217;d forgotten about), were a pang of regret at having placed my order, followed by a thought of selling my Mini in about a year when this comes out. It looks hot, is bigger, and I&#8217;m sure power won&#8217;t be a problem.
That said, I haven&#8217;t experienced daily ownership of a Mini, so all this could change.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: LL</title>
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		<dc:creator>LL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 08:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As far as hatch backs are concerned -- I really don&#039;t know why it&#039;s got such a bad stigma in the U.S. I love hatch backs (but not so much the station wagons, though) -- in fact the first thing I look for in a car is the hatch back. If the car doesn&#039;t have a hatch back it would have to have something seriously great for me to even give it a second look.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as hatch backs are concerned &#8212; I really don&#8217;t know why it&#8217;s got such a bad stigma in the U.S. I love hatch backs (but not so much the station wagons, though) &#8212; in fact the first thing I look for in a car is the hatch back. If the car doesn&#8217;t have a hatch back it would have to have something seriously great for me to even give it a second look.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: LL</title>
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		<dc:creator>LL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 08:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The 1er and the MINI, IMHO, are technically in separate markets. People who are interested in the 1er would be more traditionalist-performance oriented -- meaning they want silky smooth engines with inexhaustable power (magic of inline 6 and VANOS), performance-tuned suspension and balanced weight distribution (with which BMW is legend).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I hate to use generalizations, but my impression of it is, that MINI&#039;s more for those who are more rebellious-underdog types -- meaning engines with more-than-adequate power that may be a little rough at the edges with enthusiastic handling and great looks.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In terms of price, right now, there is nothing in the BMW line up that&#039;s priced in between the 3er and the MINI. For traditionalist-performance oriented people, you&#039;d either have to pony up some serious doe for the 3er or save some by getting the MINI. So for MCS, it seems, for the moment, a good compromise -- for relatively low price, you get good (more-than-adequate) power and excellent but not awesome handling.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Now, if you are not willing to compromise, then you&#039;d be looking else where other than BMW. BMW is simply trying to capture those who are not willing to compromise.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For the MINI, this will definitely canibalize some of MINI&#039;s market share -- since BMW would have finally given them what they wanted -- traditionalist-performance oriented car with great engine and awesome handling at a price they can afford. The question then becomes how much will MINI lose? Well, that&#039;s the hard part. Personally, I think most people who bought MINIs falls into the latter category, meaning that given the choice, they still would have bought MINIs.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve seen the 1er first hand while on vacation in Asia. IMHO, its looks are o.k. -- takes some getting use to, though. Yes the 1er has a lot more power and probably handles fabulously around those sharp twisties, but it just doesn&#039;t communicate that certain &quot;the little car that can&quot; type of personality to me.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So you can guess which category I fall into.... :-)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Another factor is (probably not important in terms of MINI), that how much the 1er would cannibalize the 3er market? I think this is what BMW is more worried about -- they probably make a lot more money from the 3er than they do from the MINI -- which may be why they are coming out with the 3-door version first.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Gabe said:
Just to clear something upÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â¦ BMW chooses the dealers who sell the MINI. If dealers could chooseÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â¦&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I wonder how they choose the dealers... in California there are absolutely &lt;em&gt;NO&lt;/em&gt; MINI dealers between the greater Los Angeles and San Francisco areas. So if you live in the central valley (e.g. Bakersfield, Fresno, etc.), you&#039;d have to drive 130+ miles to the nearest dealer. in the mean time, around where I live (Irvine), there are 2 dealers within a 5 mile radius.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 1er and the MINI, IMHO, are technically in separate markets. People who are interested in the 1er would be more traditionalist-performance oriented &#8212; meaning they want silky smooth engines with inexhaustable power (magic of inline 6 and VANOS), performance-tuned suspension and balanced weight distribution (with which BMW is legend).</p>

<p>I hate to use generalizations, but my impression of it is, that MINI&#8217;s more for those who are more rebellious-underdog types &#8212; meaning engines with more-than-adequate power that may be a little rough at the edges with enthusiastic handling and great looks.</p>

<p>In terms of price, right now, there is nothing in the BMW line up that&#8217;s priced in between the 3er and the MINI. For traditionalist-performance oriented people, you&#8217;d either have to pony up some serious doe for the 3er or save some by getting the MINI. So for MCS, it seems, for the moment, a good compromise &#8212; for relatively low price, you get good (more-than-adequate) power and excellent but not awesome handling.</p>

<p>Now, if you are not willing to compromise, then you&#8217;d be looking else where other than BMW. BMW is simply trying to capture those who are not willing to compromise.</p>

<p>For the MINI, this will definitely canibalize some of MINI&#8217;s market share &#8212; since BMW would have finally given them what they wanted &#8212; traditionalist-performance oriented car with great engine and awesome handling at a price they can afford. The question then becomes how much will MINI lose? Well, that&#8217;s the hard part. Personally, I think most people who bought MINIs falls into the latter category, meaning that given the choice, they still would have bought MINIs.</p>

<p>I&#8217;ve seen the 1er first hand while on vacation in Asia. IMHO, its looks are o.k. &#8212; takes some getting use to, though. Yes the 1er has a lot more power and probably handles fabulously around those sharp twisties, but it just doesn&#8217;t communicate that certain &#8220;the little car that can&#8221; type of personality to me.</p>

<p>So you can guess which category I fall into&#8230;. :-)</p>

<p>Another factor is (probably not important in terms of MINI), that how much the 1er would cannibalize the 3er market? I think this is what BMW is more worried about &#8212; they probably make a lot more money from the 3er than they do from the MINI &#8212; which may be why they are coming out with the 3-door version first.</p>

<blockquote>Gabe said:
Just to clear something upÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â¦ BMW chooses the dealers who sell the MINI. If dealers could chooseÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â¦</blockquote>

<p>I wonder how they choose the dealers&#8230; in California there are absolutely <em>NO</em> MINI dealers between the greater Los Angeles and San Francisco areas. So if you live in the central valley (e.g. Bakersfield, Fresno, etc.), you&#8217;d have to drive 130+ miles to the nearest dealer. in the mean time, around where I live (Irvine), there are 2 dealers within a 5 mile radius.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: M. Dillon</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Dillon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 08:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;...lucky,for me,I don&#039;t fall in the slot of,&quot;A MINI person&quot;;or,&quot;A BMW person&quot;,for that matter.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;...however,I do fall under the slot of,&quot;I just want a damn&#039; good,quality car,that sips fuel;and doesn&#039;t send me to the poor house,person&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;...with this in mind,my MC is paid off;and more than likely,I will trick out,&quot;Sade&quot;,to my taste(using MINI products,of course),then garage it somewhere. Therefore,I will be getting another car sometime around late 2007/2008.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;...since I have a MINI...that 1-Series coupe/hatchback,would be a nice,&quot;Sister&quot;,for,&quot;Sade&quot;. Thank you,as usual,Gabe,for the great story.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;lucky,for me,I don&#8217;t fall in the slot of,&#8221;A MINI person&#8221;;or,&#8221;A BMW person&#8221;,for that matter.</p>

<p>&#8230;however,I do fall under the slot of,&#8221;I just want a damn&#8217; good,quality car,that sips fuel;and doesn&#8217;t send me to the poor house,person&#8221;.</p>

<p>&#8230;with this in mind,my MC is paid off;and more than likely,I will trick out,&#8221;Sade&#8221;,to my taste(using MINI products,of course),then garage it somewhere. Therefore,I will be getting another car sometime around late 2007/2008.</p>

<p>&#8230;since I have a MINI&#8230;that 1-Series coupe/hatchback,would be a nice,&#8221;Sister&#8221;,for,&#8221;Sade&#8221;. Thank you,as usual,Gabe,for the great story.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mark Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 07:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m sorry but wherever the 1 Series starts won&#039;t cause it to compete with the Cooper S. Think for one second. To get the raw performance quotient that you can get (using the R53 as an example) in a JCW Tuned S would still be less than if you attempted to do the same thing in a One Series. Also think about the potential aggressiveness of the R56 Cooper S JCW (possibly 220 to 250 H.P. rumored) that will still cost less than a one series as aggressively as you could equip it. You most likely could take the extra dollars spent to equip that 135i and buy more JCW accessories. Sorry but the One will not affect MINI but it may certainly complement it. We may not even see the hatch in the states as I&#039;ve read interviews with various BMW higher ups saying that the U.S. would favor a sedan and Convertible version of this model like the three series. Remeber how popular the 318ti was back in the 90&#039;s? Nuff said!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry but wherever the 1 Series starts won&#8217;t cause it to compete with the Cooper S. Think for one second. To get the raw performance quotient that you can get (using the R53 as an example) in a JCW Tuned S would still be less than if you attempted to do the same thing in a One Series. Also think about the potential aggressiveness of the R56 Cooper S JCW (possibly 220 to 250 H.P. rumored) that will still cost less than a one series as aggressively as you could equip it. You most likely could take the extra dollars spent to equip that 135i and buy more JCW accessories. Sorry but the One will not affect MINI but it may certainly complement it. We may not even see the hatch in the states as I&#8217;ve read interviews with various BMW higher ups saying that the U.S. would favor a sedan and Convertible version of this model like the three series. Remeber how popular the 318ti was back in the 90&#8242;s? Nuff said!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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