Comments on: MINI’s Future JCW Vehicle(s)

By: Gilbert's

Gilbert's — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 22:47:40 +0000

Oh my…. I think i’ll stick with my old cooper S got 210 hp and i am happy..

By: MotoringFile » Archive » R56 JCW Engine Kit: Auto Availability

MotoringFile » Archive » R56 JCW Engine Kit: Auto Availability — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 14:15:26 +0000

[...] As with the manual version, the automatic JCW Kit will be available only as a dealer installed option. Of course we remain optimistic for something even hotter and factory based down the road. [...]

By: MotoringFile » Archive » Is This the JCW Stage II Kit?

MotoringFile » Archive » Is This the JCW Stage II Kit? — Thu, 31 May 2007 14:43:02 +0000

[...] [ JCW Future Vehicles [...]

By: Miguel

Miguel — Mon, 05 Mar 2007 05:50:41 +0000

Oops. I know some car aficianado is going to call me on it, so the 1977 BMW 2002 was indeed a typo. I don’t think they made a 1977. It was a 1976. Fjord blue and very fun, although it leaned WAY over on the corners. I had to put sway bars and decamber plates on it to keep the chrome on the door handles. The color was almost the same as my Mini.

By: Miguel

Miguel — Mon, 05 Mar 2007 05:43:25 +0000

As a long time BMW owner (‘77 2002, ‘94 325i), I have always been a fan of the M series cars, but they have been out of reach financially. I have a 2005 MCS and love it, but when you start looking at a $35000 Mini / JCW, a used BMW M3 becomes a serious alternative for me. I think that Mini needs to make a 230+ BHP version, with the suspension, brakes, and looks to match, at a decent price, or driving enthusiasts will start to look elsewhere. The new and used market has a lot of vehicles that can run with the current R53 MCS JCW if a buyer is strictly seeking performance. Going fast with a 1.6 liter engine that is economical and reliable is quite a feat, so this gets kudos above and beyond performance alone. There is however a price ceiling, and Mini needs to recognise this. I think that by offering the “stage one” kit they are making an attempt to keep impatient hot shoes interested, however it may also be a sign that they are having trouble meeting reliability goals with the new “trick” engine. I hope I’m wrong, because I have left a deposit with my dealer on a M56 JCW… whenever they actually come out…2008? I’m cautiously optimistic.

By: Gabe

Gabe — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:06:42 +0000

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By: Micah

Micah — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:35:47 +0000

Quite funny and ironic how the guys with the uninformed, nonscientific, right-leaning opinions are ranting the loudest…

By: GZ

GZ — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:18:13 +0000

I agree. However, it’s amusing how opinions are still squeezed in huh?

By: Gabe

Gabe — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:44:39 +0000

The realities of the environmental problems we face daily are pretty obvious to most. And I for one am very interested in limiting the damage we do to the earth every day. However I’d prefer if this debate raged on elsewhere in more appropriate places of the web.

By: fdavid

fdavid — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:36:45 +0000

Ok. It seems this is not the right demographic/forum for such a topic, rather than intelligent discussion its becoming quite pathetic and depressing; so let’s go back to the topic at hand Minis FUTURE VEHICLES!

By: GZ

GZ — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:33:37 +0000

I'm casting my vote for dr as MF participant of the day. The Earth's temperature fluctuates on it's own regardless of what we do. Puny mankind CANNOT affect this! This crap is all about political agendas and the rest of the world which pollutes far more than the US being jealous of our standard of life.

In the 70's the envirocommunists were whinning about global COOLING! Where are those guys now? Furthermore, there is less pollution and more trees now than 30 years ago! DO NOT BUY THIS GARBAGE! AND KEEP IT OUT OF MF! And give me 250 HP on JCW3!

By: dr

dr — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:21:17 +0000

Yeah and the truth is that COWs do more to the enviroment than modern cars….The truth is that one volcano eruption spews more crap in the air than if everyone drove Hummers….the truth is that we only have at best 200 years of climate data and from that tiny TINY amount of data scientists have extrapolated hysteria to keep their endowments and government funding rolling in to keep thier pointless jobs…

By: fdavid

fdavid — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:34:23 +0000

I am with Glen on this one actually. It would be nice to revisit this thread in 5 years and see if there are any changes in consumer perspectives about energy consumption. It would be amazing to see a 220 plus HP Mini that runs in anything other than gasoline. BTW: to care about the environment you don’t need to be a patchouli tofu eater but rather an individual with some common sense. The truth is that I bet right now that a company such as Honda will be the first one to offer a ride like this and then the rest will follow. 1972 Honda civic comes to mind.

By: R56LVR

R56LVR — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:13:41 +0000

I feel better about my R53 JCW with each passing article on the R56. And knowing that I will not be buying a new car in the next couple of years makes it some much easier to justify the head and cam that I’ve been comtemplating…

By: Ben

Ben — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:11:30 +0000

How much power does one need? How much is too much? In 2010, donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t you think global warming and fuel economy will mean more than they do even today. I hope MINI takes a step off the bandwagon of insatiable levels of horsepower.

More power does not necessarily equal decreased fuel economy or higher emissions...the current-gen Altima and Camry hybrids are plenty quick, and even non-hybrid technology (like VW's Twincharger) promises a future of quicker (but still less-environmentally intrusive) cars.

You know, of course, that the R56 is faster AND more fuel-efficient than the car it replaces, right? And besides, why bring these comments here in the first place...this is probably the only car site on the web where 230hp = "insatiable" :)

By: GZ

GZ — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:10:57 +0000

Glen. I recommend keeping a lid on the global warming(BS)rap. That's a can of worms I'm sure Gabe doesn't feel is appropriate for MF. Go watch some reruns of the Oscars for your left wing fix but don't bring it here.

Hey dr. I'm going out for a steak, wanna come? Let's take my Hummer.

By: dr

dr — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:40:14 +0000

boy you can tell the people who buy the cute cars because of marketing from those who buy cars because they are fun

No thanks Glen, I dont like tofu, go ahead and finish it off yourself

By: Glen B.

Glen B. — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:19:16 +0000

How much power does one need? How much is too much? In 2010, don’t you think global warming and fuel economy will mean more than they do even today. I hope MINI takes a step off the bandwagon of insatiable levels of horsepower.

By: James

James — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:32:07 +0000

It seems to me that the branding solution here is to hold the actual MCS JCW until the big power version comes along. Sell the "stage 1" as a kit or option for the regular car, not as a seperate model. Like the way BMW sells both M cars and M packages for lesser Bimmers, but with the added bonus of more power. 200hp plus uprated suspension in a regular MCS would be quite nice, I'm sure.

What I'd really like these JCW cars/packages to do is make the Sport Button's "on" setting as the default.

By: minimalist

minimalist — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:04:55 +0000

uk magazine autocar are speculating that Peugeot will show 210BHP 207 at Geneva show having already launched 150BHP and 175BHP versions of this car whi8ch share the turbocharged mini engine