lavardera May 1st, 2007 Link
So will it be the Mini Cooper Clubman or will it be the Mini Clubman?
ReplyThere has been some speculation recently about what we should expect with Clubman pricing in the US. We’ve heard rumors of general pricing as far back as early last year, but until recently, hadn’t heard from some of our more reliable sources on the matter.
Based on some recent information from multiple sources, we believe US pricing of the Clubman should fall between that of the Coupe and the Convertible. Specifically we’ve heard of figures around $2000 to $2500 higher than the Cooper and Cooper S Coupes. That would mean roughly $21,000 for the MINI Cooper Clubman and $24,000 for the Cooper S version.
And speaking of Clubman models the question has been asked recently, how will MINI name this new variation? Again based on multiple sources, MINI (worldwide) will be using the same naming convention as seen on the convertible models. That means there will be no mention of the “Clubman” on the car itself, only in the literature and on the web. Like the Convertible models, the Clubman models will simply be designated by “One”, “Cooper”, “Cooper D”, “Cooper S”. This gets around the pesky problem of a really long name (i.e. “MINI Cooper S Clubman”) on the boot. On the downside it allows the “Clubman” name a little less opportunity to become widely known.
As we’ve reported previously, the R55 MINI Clubman will mirror all R56 model configurations:
Related:
[ Clubman Update & Official Sketch ] MotoringFile
So will it be the Mini Cooper Clubman or will it be the Mini Clubman?
ReplyMaybe they could call it Cooper/Cooper S w/weight&cost ;)
Not to bad of a increase cost for the car in my view. I do have to say that there needs to be some sort of badging that is Clubman specific, or else it would just lead to confusion. Should be interesting to see what type of badging they come up with.
ReplyIt should at least say Clubman on the side of the car like the Sidewalk.
Replydidn’t anybody read the actual article? was it updated recently? no mention of clubman on the actual car. which of course opens up a whole new niche for aftermarket badging (and eventually official MINI accessory badging.)
price is not too bad… if they update the questionable interior bits (centre console, radio-in-speedo) i might be convinced to part with my ‘05 mcs. there was talk of interior updates for the clubman, right?
ReplyNo branding, huh? A real stealth car. Guess I can do my own. Hmmm. Wagenmeister? RealLongCooper? S-Wagon? FastMover? Raketenwagen? Don’tLaughYourDaughter’sInHereCooper? The possibilities are endless for personal model names – if only you could buy letters in MINI font! Ah, well Countryman or Traveller’ll do righr enough for me. ;-)
BCNU, Rob in Dago
ReplyIt should at least say Clubman on the side of the car like the Sidewalk.
Yeah, that would be a good idea!
ReplyDoes anyone else besides me not like MINI’s recent model names? Sidewalk? Clubman?? These names don’t inspire much for me. They sound very wrong for the MINI image, despite any historical significance they may have. Clubman sounds like the name for a van or a large sedan. I’m still hoping that MINI will change the name at the last minute.
ReplyThat’s surprising and actually disappointing to me. I understand that it’s a variant on the Cooper, but I guess in my mind I’ve always thought of it as its own car. I was expecting MINI Clubman, and MINI Clubman S. The One isn’t referred to as the Cooper One, but rather as the MINI One, and there’s even less difference between a One and a Cooper. Why wouldn’t you just have a MINI Clubman? I guess I just want more differentiation from the Cooper and Cooper S. At the very least, seems like it ought to say Clubman on it somewhere. I like Brian’s idea about branding it Sidewalk-style. It needs something! Why go through all the trouble of arriving at the Clubman name and then not put it anywhere on the car?
ReplySo when I added the sports package and automatic transmission. I am looking at about 27k…That JCW upgrade is going to be a no go for awhile.lol
ReplyWhy not just use the letter ‘L’ like the long wheelbase BMW’s? The Cooper SL or Cooper L.
ReplyIt would be nice if they actually called it the Clubman and would be badged so. The car will look different enough from the coupe to support distinguishing it as a separate model. Seeing the badge on the rear barn door of “Clubman” and “Clubman S” would be cool.
ReplyThey use the Cooper (for Europe) to denote performance and I guess they want to keep the Clubman’s badged as such. I would go with Clubman One Clubman One D Cooper CM Cooper CMS with a side badge
OT – I would rebadge the Sidewalk to Ballpark in the USA with those sweet baseball glove leather seats maybe toss on a baseball shift nob.
ReplySo are we still thinking there may be AWD in 08?
There were rumors in one or two auto-mags but we’ve never officially endorsed them. In fact we at MF would strongly bet against it.
ReplyBut how will we abbreviate it? The MCSC is already the convertible. They should have started the name with a different letter…
Replyi agree with many people here… i expected to see “clubman s” on the barn door… kind of sad to hear it wont be that way.
i think it is a mistake on mini’s behalf. only the mini-literate are going to know its as the clubman- it’ll be mini wagon to the laymen before you know it.
ReplyC’mon! The vert doesn’t actually say “convertible” on it, and yet everyone knows that’s what it is – why would this car be any different?
ReplyThey should put Clubman S on the barn door. That would be sweet! With the same S badge at the front side.
ReplyIt should be labeled Clubman. The badging should be Cooper and Cooper S, then Clubman and Clubman S. The convertible is just a Cooper/Cooper S without a hard top, so of course it wouldn’t be labeled. If they came out with a Clubman convertible, then it would be the same. To me, the Clubman is a completely new model and should be treated that way.
ReplyJosh, maybe they’ll do the abbreviations like this: MCCS (Mini Cooper Cllubman S)?!
ReplyJosh, maybe they’ll do the abbreviations like this: MCCS (Mini Cooper Clubman S)?!
ReplyI think I’d prefer if it didn’t say Clubman on the back. This is a definite aftermarket opportunity. I’m not usually one for appearance mods, but I’d jump right in line to get an aftermarket factory-look Clubman emblem.
ReplyI will hope to see the Clubman labeled somehow, don’t want any of my non-mini frieds mixing up the Clubman with my sweet little ride lol.
Reply“MINI Cooper S Clubman?” It is a mouth full but it makes sense. If I had my say I would leave the Cooper off of it and make Clubman a new model designation on it’s own. It should appear somewhere on the car!
ReplyThat’s surprising and actually disappointing to me. I understand that it’s a variant on the Cooper, but I guess in my mind I’ve always thought of it as its own car.
It is its own car, just like the convertible is its own car. “Cooper” shouldn’t be seen as a distinct model, but rather as a qualification of engine power and equipment level. Actually, it is a lot like “GTI” in “Volkswagen Golf GTI” (for example, Volkswagen also has a Polo GTI in Europe). This is why it makes sense to have a Mini One and a Mini Cooper which have the same basic body shape. And it also makes sense to have a convertible designated Cooper, as it does having an estate designated Cooper.
Personally, I’m glad this has been cleared up and this is the outcome, it makes the most sense to me.
ReplyWith no Clubman badging on the car, I guess a vanity plate will need to fill that void. However, with all of the future variants that have been discussed, we may eventually have 4 or 5 MINI’s simply badged as Coopers? I understand the rationale, but I think car buyers view MINI as the make and Cooper as the model. New variants are going to be seen as separate models and should be badged accordingly. Also, I think the comparison with the ‘vert is a non-starting. Most drop-top variants keep the same model name because it is obvious that is what it is (e.g., a PT Cruiser is a PT Cruiser whether hard or softtop). As others have said, Clubman should appear on the car somewhere, at a minimum, like the Sidewalk.
ReplyIm eager to find out how much the Clubman S weighs
Does this barn door make my ass look big?
ReplyVery nice to know the pricing. Is there anyway to know about the ‘Clubman’ dimension ?
ReplyStopped at a Mini dealership today and asked about the Clubman and pricing – “No information, I don’t really know much about it” was the reply. Maybe they should require the sales staff to start the day with a dose of Motoringfile!
Thanks for the update…
ReplyMy dealer contacted me today, they want me down, sometime soon, to put in a deposit for the new Clubman. We’ve been on a “list” for several months now.
WooHoo!!
Being a 3 MINI Family is just around the corner!
ReplyHTML Formatting Tips
MotoringFile also allows use of Markdown formatting in the comment section. This accomplishes the same formatting as HTML but is typically easy to use.
| _your text_ | → | your text |
| **your text** | → | your text |
| `my code` | → | my code |
| * Bulleted list * Second item | → | • Bulleted list • Second item |
| 1. Numbered list 1. Second item | → | 1. Numbered list 2. Second item |
| [link name](URL) | → | link name |
| *** | → | Horizontal ruler |
| <http://url> <email@add.com> | → | Auto-linked |
|  | → | Image |



