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	<title>Comments on: MINI Clubman: A Cup-holder Extravaganza</title>
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		<title>By: caly</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/05/29/mini-clubman-a-cup-holder-extravaganza/comment-page-1/#comment-126924</link>
		<dc:creator>caly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 19:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;When are there going to be more details, spyshots or official photos of the Clubman going to be launched?????&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When are there going to be more details, spyshots or official photos of the Clubman going to be launched?????</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: OttoMannS</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/05/29/mini-clubman-a-cup-holder-extravaganza/comment-page-1/#comment-126546</link>
		<dc:creator>OttoMannS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 12:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Fdavid, when you actually have kids, your mind will change fairly quickly....&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fdavid, when you actually have kids, your mind will change fairly quickly&#8230;.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Aussom</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/05/29/mini-clubman-a-cup-holder-extravaganza/comment-page-1/#comment-126450</link>
		<dc:creator>Aussom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 02:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think the additional full sized cup holders are a great idea. Has anyone tried placing cups from drive through take-away or even standard drink cans? The original front cup holders and rear side trays are too small for modern drinks, while the central rear cup holder is a bit bigger.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Add kids to the back seat and you have a potential upholstery spill/stain accident waiting to happen - plus general in-car fighting over who gets to put their drink in the rear central cup holder. Most kids want their own drink holder, so full-sized side drink holders are a good idea.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the additional full sized cup holders are a great idea. Has anyone tried placing cups from drive through take-away or even standard drink cans? The original front cup holders and rear side trays are too small for modern drinks, while the central rear cup holder is a bit bigger.</p>

<p>Add kids to the back seat and you have a potential upholstery spill/stain accident waiting to happen &#8211; plus general in-car fighting over who gets to put their drink in the rear central cup holder. Most kids want their own drink holder, so full-sized side drink holders are a good idea.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: fdavid</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/05/29/mini-clubman-a-cup-holder-extravaganza/comment-page-1/#comment-125754</link>
		<dc:creator>fdavid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 20:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Don&#039;t have kids yet, but wow what a mess!! I can only imagine all those &quot;sippi cups&quot;, old water bottles, and spills of coffee, Coke ect... Yikes!!! Thank god I am a minimalist and this is out of the question for us. **Not the kid (s) but the mess!!!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t have kids yet, but wow what a mess!! I can only imagine all those &#8220;sippi cups&#8221;, old water bottles, and spills of coffee, Coke ect&#8230; Yikes!!! Thank god I am a minimalist and this is out of the question for us. **Not the kid (s) but the mess!!!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/05/29/mini-clubman-a-cup-holder-extravaganza/comment-page-1/#comment-124781</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 20:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;5 cup-holders.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Another sign of the end-of-days.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>5 cup-holders.</p>

<p>Another sign of the end-of-days.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/05/29/mini-clubman-a-cup-holder-extravaganza/comment-page-1/#comment-124685</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 17:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good point!  Eight cupholders - gasp!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;By my count, my â€˜05 Cooper has 5 cup-holders for its four seats. 2 short ones up front, one behind the e-brake and 2 in the rear sides (although not officially billed as cup-holders, itâ€™s pretty clear that someone at MINI figured that cups could be be placed there - thereâ€™s a little notch in the side bins to hold larger cups).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;

Then donâ€™t you have 8 total, including also the big one on the downtube and two on the inside door of the glovebox? I have a cabrio and donâ€™t have the rear sides, so I only have 6 total.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point!  Eight cupholders &#8211; gasp!</p>

<blockquote> </blockquote>

<blockquote>By my count, my â€˜05 Cooper has 5 cup-holders for its four seats. 2 short ones up front, one behind the e-brake and 2 in the rear sides (although not officially billed as cup-holders, itâ€™s pretty clear that someone at MINI figured that cups could be be placed there &#8211; thereâ€™s a little notch in the side bins to hold larger cups).</blockquote>

<blockquote>

Then donâ€™t you have 8 total, including also the big one on the downtube and two on the inside door of the glovebox? I have a cabrio and donâ€™t have the rear sides, so I only have 6 total.</blockquote>

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		<title>By: rkw</title>
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		<dc:creator>rkw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 16:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;By my count, my â€˜05 Cooper has 5 cup-holders for its four seats. 2 short ones up front, one behind the e-brake and 2 in the rear sides (although not officially billed as cup-holders, itâ€™s pretty clear that someone at MINI figured that cups could be be placed there - thereâ€™s a little notch in the side bins to hold larger cups).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Then don&#039;t you have 8 total, including also the big one on the downtube and two on the inside door of the glovebox? I have a cabrio and don&#039;t have the rear sides, so I only have 6 total.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>By my count, my â€˜05 Cooper has 5 cup-holders for its four seats. 2 short ones up front, one behind the e-brake and 2 in the rear sides (although not officially billed as cup-holders, itâ€™s pretty clear that someone at MINI figured that cups could be be placed there &#8211; thereâ€™s a little notch in the side bins to hold larger cups).</blockquote>

<p>Then don&#8217;t you have 8 total, including also the big one on the downtube and two on the inside door of the glovebox? I have a cabrio and don&#8217;t have the rear sides, so I only have 6 total.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: cletus</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/05/29/mini-clubman-a-cup-holder-extravaganza/comment-page-1/#comment-124584</link>
		<dc:creator>cletus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 12:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;How quickly y&#039;all have forgotten that the &#039;02 and &#039;03 MINIs were severely taken to task in a JD Power owner satisfaction survey, all because of the dearth of useful cupholders!  In response, MINI sent us all a stainless steel travel mug of the correct height, and with a reduced diameter at the bottom to fit beneath the toggle switch panel, seated in the existing miniature recesses ahead of the shifter that were intended to do double duty as spare change receptacles.  After being bloodied for cupholder paucity once, I can understand how they&#039;re unwilling to let it happen again!  ;-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How quickly y&#8217;all have forgotten that the &#8216;02 and &#8216;03 MINIs were severely taken to task in a JD Power owner satisfaction survey, all because of the dearth of useful cupholders!  In response, MINI sent us all a stainless steel travel mug of the correct height, and with a reduced diameter at the bottom to fit beneath the toggle switch panel, seated in the existing miniature recesses ahead of the shifter that were intended to do double duty as spare change receptacles.  After being bloodied for cupholder paucity once, I can understand how they&#8217;re unwilling to let it happen again!  ;-)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/05/29/mini-clubman-a-cup-holder-extravaganza/comment-page-1/#comment-124563</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 11:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
The obesity rate in the United States among adults is 30.6% (2002). In the U.K. it is 23.0% (2004).

Still wonder why the U.S. Clubman will only have two seats in back?
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&lt;p&gt;not to mention the suicide door on the passenger side to get the &quot;US Adults&quot; into the back.  LOL
3 cupholder, 5 cupholders, who cares?  I still can&#039;t wait for my clubman in Feb!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;BTW,
I found that a 1/2 Keg of beer lays down in the boot&#039;s well and fits very nicely.  Now to figure out a way to keep the well cold and icy.  ;-)&lt;/p&gt;
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The obesity rate in the United States among adults is 30.6% (2002). In the U.K. it is 23.0% (2004).

Still wonder why the U.S. Clubman will only have two seats in back?
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<p>not to mention the suicide door on the passenger side to get the &#8220;US Adults&#8221; into the back.  LOL
3 cupholder, 5 cupholders, who cares?  I still can&#8217;t wait for my clubman in Feb!</p>

<p>BTW,
I found that a 1/2 Keg of beer lays down in the boot&#8217;s well and fits very nicely.  Now to figure out a way to keep the well cold and icy.  ;-)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Timothy</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/05/29/mini-clubman-a-cup-holder-extravaganza/comment-page-1/#comment-124551</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 10:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The obesity rate in the United States among adults is 30.6% (2002). In the U.K. it is 23.0% (2004).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Still wonder why the U.S. Clubman will only have two seats in back?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The obesity rate in the United States among adults is 30.6% (2002). In the U.K. it is 23.0% (2004).</p>

<p>Still wonder why the U.S. Clubman will only have two seats in back?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/05/29/mini-clubman-a-cup-holder-extravaganza/comment-page-1/#comment-124360</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 20:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;ok - this is starting to sound like that ridiculous Saturn commercial where they compare their plastic car to the metal Landrover... and it all boils down to cupholders!!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;seriously. how can you judge a car by its CUPHOLDERS!?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok &#8211; this is starting to sound like that ridiculous Saturn commercial where they compare their plastic car to the metal Landrover&#8230; and it all boils down to cupholders!!</p>

<p>seriously. how can you judge a car by its CUPHOLDERS!?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/05/29/mini-clubman-a-cup-holder-extravaganza/comment-page-1/#comment-124345</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 19:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Never knew cup-holders could be contentious, a few extra molded plastic cup-holders really donâ€™t make me any fonder of the Clubman lol. In 5 years of owning the new Mini my wife and myself have never used more than the center rear cup-holder. Guess if you have &quot;extra&#039;s&quot; in the backseat though it could prove useful.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never knew cup-holders could be contentious, a few extra molded plastic cup-holders really donâ€™t make me any fonder of the Clubman lol. In 5 years of owning the new Mini my wife and myself have never used more than the center rear cup-holder. Guess if you have &#8220;extra&#8217;s&#8221; in the backseat though it could prove useful.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: john m</title>
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		<dc:creator>john m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 19:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;WOW 5 CUP HOLDER WILL WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW 5 CUP HOLDER WILL WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/05/29/mini-clubman-a-cup-holder-extravaganza/comment-page-1/#comment-124334</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 18:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Not sure what the fuss is.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;By my count, my &#039;05 Cooper has 5 cup-holders for its four seats.  2 short ones up front, one behind the e-brake and 2 in the rear sides (although not officially billed as cup-holders, it&#039;s pretty clear that someone at MINI figured that cups could be be placed there -- there&#039;s a little notch in the side bins to hold larger cups).&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure what the fuss is.</p>

<p>By my count, my &#8216;05 Cooper has 5 cup-holders for its four seats.  2 short ones up front, one behind the e-brake and 2 in the rear sides (although not officially billed as cup-holders, it&#8217;s pretty clear that someone at MINI figured that cups could be be placed there &#8212; there&#8217;s a little notch in the side bins to hold larger cups).</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: OttoMannS</title>
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		<dc:creator>OttoMannS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 17:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Korby, I would think having a 3rd passenger in the back seat of the Clubman will be quite a squeeze. However, it is difficult to judge MINI&#039;s decision to offer full 5 seating in the Euro Clubman and not in the US spec model.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Equally puzzling, I might add, MINI&#039;s decision to have placed the rear door on the &quot;street&quot; side of right hand drive models. Evidently, not a problem for us left drive handers, but this has created some controversy in the UK and other RHD markets.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Overall, I like the car and should give MINI a nice sales boost come next year.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Korby, I would think having a 3rd passenger in the back seat of the Clubman will be quite a squeeze. However, it is difficult to judge MINI&#8217;s decision to offer full 5 seating in the Euro Clubman and not in the US spec model.</p>

<p>Equally puzzling, I might add, MINI&#8217;s decision to have placed the rear door on the &#8220;street&#8221; side of right hand drive models. Evidently, not a problem for us left drive handers, but this has created some controversy in the UK and other RHD markets.</p>

<p>Overall, I like the car and should give MINI a nice sales boost come next year.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: OttoMannS</title>
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		<dc:creator>OttoMannS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 17:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You&#039;ll be surprised how those extra cupholders come in handy, especially on road trips. I don&#039;t drink big gulps, in fact, I just drink water and like to keep myself hydrated at all times.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Last I heard, cupholders only add 10HP, but make your closet sports car a little less sporty.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ll be surprised how those extra cupholders come in handy, especially on road trips. I don&#8217;t drink big gulps, in fact, I just drink water and like to keep myself hydrated at all times.</p>

<p>Last I heard, cupholders only add 10HP, but make your closet sports car a little less sporty.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Korby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Korby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 17:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why dont we get 3rd. seat in back ,my wife would want one if it  had this.Is the  Clubman wider?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why dont we get 3rd. seat in back ,my wife would want one if it  had this.Is the  Clubman wider?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: rkw</title>
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		<dc:creator>rkw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 17:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What do you call a car with more cup-holders than seat-belts?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But the 1st gen MINI (US spec) already has two more cup-holders than seat-belts, if you include the ones in the glovebox door.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>What do you call a car with more cup-holders than seat-belts?</blockquote>

<p>But the 1st gen MINI (US spec) already has two more cup-holders than seat-belts, if you include the ones in the glovebox door.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Aurel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aurel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 16:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;yey .. more circular things in the interior!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;but really, I am liking the idea of the Clubman more and more.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yey .. more circular things in the interior!</p>

<p>but really, I am liking the idea of the Clubman more and more.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: vin.</title>
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		<dc:creator>vin.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 15:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My first car, a 1992 Pontiac Grand Am SE (don&#039;t laugh--okay, go ahead and laugh) had a possible 8 cupholders for a car that could seat up to 5 people (four comfortably.)  Kind of shows you GM&#039;s priorities back in the early &#039;90s.&lt;/p&gt;
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