Sections: Efficiency | MF Feature | Sales May 30th, 2007 413 Comments 
For all you US based diesel fans, here’s your chance to be heard. Everyone by now knows my interests in alternative fuel vehicles. Most of the diesel posts are mine, and I’m always leaving comments, even in the posts I make! Not to mention all of the posts I have made on my motoring blog concerning alternative fuel vehicles.
While the thought of a hybrid is exciting to me, and many of you I’m sure, what are our choices? Nothing that we can really get excited about. Not to mention the cost of replacing the batteries about 3-5 years. Not something I would really look forward to.
We also know that BMW has a diesel engine ready to come to the US in the form of the X5 in ‘08 (and possibly a diesel powered 5 series in ‘09). If they are bringing it here, it must be ready to pass smog inspection in the toughest air-quality standard states, including California.
And now MINI has that brand new diesel Cooper. Increased fuel economy (approximately 60MPG on the US cycle), cleaner burning (the cleanest burning car they make) and lots of cool technology. Plus, as much torque as an R56 MCS at 2,000 RPM makes this car look very attractive.
But there currently aren’t any plans for MINI to bring this car to North America. We can speculate on the why, but that’s not terribly productive. Instead, I say we get together and try to convince MINI to bring the diesel powered MINI to North America.
To that end, we present you, the fine Motoringfile reader, with the following questions.
You know what to do. I’ll be keeping a close eye on the spam filters to make sure all of the comments get through.
Fred May 30th, 2007 Link
I would seriously consider a diesel, or electric, or ethanol, or gerbil-powered Mini if it performed as my 07 MCS does. I am not sure why there has to be a premium attached. Is it more expensive to build a diesel? I would think less, but would not expect the price to be less.
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Pretzel Logic May 30th, 2007 Link
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murmini May 30th, 2007 Link
I would certainly buy a diesel MINI even at a premium. I would also convert it to WVO and run it on veggie oil/diesel. I just converted a VW Jetta to veggie and can not sing the praises of doing so enough!
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indimini May 30th, 2007 Link
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Ian F May 30th, 2007 Link
I currently drive a Jetta TDI wagon… so yes, I would be interested… especially if the rumored 70 mpg carries through to reality.
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vin. May 30th, 2007 Link
A diesel R55 doesn’t sound bad at all. Especially after the baby(ies?) arrive.
Making it perform like an MCS would be icing on the cake.
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JohnWR May 30th, 2007 Link
Wow! A diesel would be sweet. It would make a Clubman the perfect Mini SUV. And yes I would convert it to run on biofuel.
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J May 30th, 2007 Link
I would buy a diesel Mini immediately. I currently drive an 03 MC. My next car will most likely be a diesel. Here in the South, ethanol is not really that prevalent (no corn fields). What we do have is soybeans which can be turned into biodiesel. If I want to end my oil addiction and go with a renewal fuel, I’ll need a diesel motor. Currently, my chief contender is a diesel Rabbit, once they return to the US (09, I think). The Mini styling wins of the Rabbit hands down, but with the diesel models restricted to overseas, what choice do I have?
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Mark May 30th, 2007 Link
I would definitely buy one, and would be willing to pay a slight premium to do so.
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njpaguy May 30th, 2007 Link
In the recent past VW has imported diesel models to the US but has limited options available on those models. Who says US diesel buyers want only base models with little or no options?
WHEN you do it MINI, make sure the choices to build our MINI Ds are the same as a Cooper and/or Cooper S.
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AstroBlackS May 30th, 2007 Link
Definitely Would Buy one! Never owned a diesel but would love to!
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Ron Arnold May 30th, 2007 Link
Well, obviously I would consider a diesel; it’s a great car for the times, but if you’ve ever driven a high tech diesel, it’s an amazingly satisfying drive as well. I’d pay the premium that it takes to manufacture the engine. Diesel engines have to be built very well as they live a pretty hard life. I believe that I paid a $1300 increase for my old VW TDI. A diesel has benefits beyond frugal consumption. Especially in this country where power down low is such a fan favorite, a small turbo diesel is great. My 2000 VW Beetle diesel, despite the stunningly indifferent service experience that VW provides, was a gem. Cruising at 75-80 and getting 50 MPG is nothing to sneeze at, and I’d really love to have the MINI experience with modern diesel refinement. Yes, it’s sometimes difficult to find convenient diesel and it will be harder with the low sulphur content fuel that the MINI D will take, but it’s worth it. Make mine a “Dubman” and I’ll put the money down today. I’m already talking with my motoring advisor (Hi Lisa!) about the future eventuality of the Clubman D.
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Francis May 30th, 2007 Link
I would buy the MINI diesel just for the gas mileage alone. My current commute isn’t very long, but if I can save trips to the gas station because it’s much more efficient than my MCC, I’d want to get one for sure! Premium or otherwise.
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brian May 30th, 2007 Link
As far as replacing the batteries goes, you are incorrect. Toyota offers an 8-year 100,000 Mile warranty on the main components of the Hybrid portion of their vehicles. So there is no replacing of the batteries for what is conceivably the life of the car – considering how much better hybrids will be in 8 years I’m sure you’d trade it in for another one.
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BobbyS May 30th, 2007 Link
We have an 03 Golf TDI. Diesel fuel is currently .75 cheaper per gallon. Just got 52mpg from Nashville to Chicago at 75mph with 2 passengers and a boot full of cycling stuff. It’s a great car and it was only slightly less than $1000 more than a gas Golf. If the MINI or Clubman were that competitively priced (within $1000-$1300) and got even more MPG, you can bet we would look real hard at replacement. I think it would be another great product differentiation for the brand.
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ShawnG1313 May 30th, 2007 Link
I would seriously consider buying a MINI Diesel. This would be the Ultimate commuter car, especially here in SOCAL. Diesel is cheaper than regular here and 60+mpg would be awesome in something that isn’t hideous like the prius, not to mention a better driving experience w/ the added torque of a diesel. I would be willing to pay up to a 2k premium for a MINI D provided that it is on par technologically w/ Europe and the rest of the world.
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Natrone May 30th, 2007 Link
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MINI Fireman May 30th, 2007 Link
Yep I’d buy one, but how about a performance turbo diesel version also? Why would there have to be a premium? I’d pay one if it’s necessary to get it here though. 1K or less seems reasonable.
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nervous May 30th, 2007 Link
Based on reviews alone – yes, I’d buy one. Would pay about $1.5k more… but, educate me. I thought that the grade of diesel required is hard to find in the States. Am I wrong? Does anyone know of any websites that list locations of availability?
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mtbmini May 30th, 2007 Link
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banjoez May 30th, 2007 Link
I would buy a new MINI D in a heartbeat. 60 MPG would be amazing, no need for a hybrid, possibility of bio-diesel makes it even more attractive.
A $1500-$2000 premium would be acceptable over a Cooper. Half way between a Coop and an S.
Driving a fun car like a MINI that gets better mileage than a motorcycle sounds like an unbeatable combination.
Please bring the MINI D to the US, it would be a best seller guaranteed.
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msh441 May 30th, 2007 Link
If the diesel comes to the US in the Clubman form… I will be buying one for my wife, no question about it. She LOVES the new MINI and has a sizable commute three times a week. The fuel efficincy of the Cooper D with the functionality of the Clubman would have us saying bye-bye to the Volvo pretty quickly. She’s allready said she wants BRG/Silver, too!
I would have no problems paying somthing similar to the S for the Cooper D.
A fun AND fuel efficient, yet practical car!?! Bring me the Clubman D!!!
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andrew May 30th, 2007 Link
Yes. I would consider buying one.
Pricing should be somewhere between the Cooper and the Cooper S
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Steve See May 30th, 2007 Link
I’d consider getting one as a daily driver as I commute 60+ miles a day. A small premium of 1-2k would be fine.
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Vedubauman May 30th, 2007 Link
Sold my ‘05 MCS and bought one of the last Jetta TDI’s. I’ve been heartbroken ever since. It would be nice to have my cake and eat it to. MINI, we needed the diesel here yesterday! I have no problem paying a $1,500 premium for it. Jump on it!
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Otra May 30th, 2007 Link
Absolutely I would buy a diesel for both the mpg and the environmental concerns – also interested in the possibilities of converting to bio-diesel, as well. Would I pay a premium – yes, a comparable one, as others have stated.
Here in the USA, we are so behind the times, it’s shameful. Gas prices have to go up and we have to bite the bullet – so let’s do it MINI, and start setting the trends.
Why would it benefit me? My commute has been 100 miles a day, even with that changing, considering the enviromental and financial costs – it makes sense to sell a diesel MINI now – not “in the future”.
The fantasy of “manifest destiny” is long gone – except perhaps within our current administration – and if I were to become “The Decider” I’d do my best to bring this need to the automobile industry and make it worth their while.
MINIs are great cars, but reality is here now. Bring on the diesel and get the plans in gear for a viable hybrid sooner, rather than later – and the sales won’t lag.
Hope you’re listening MINI USA!
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badburro May 30th, 2007 Link
I would definitely consider purchasing a Cooper D. As to a premium, it should be no more than $1000.00. Although not a high mileage commuter, I have lots of hills where I drive. The increased fuel efficiency would improve my mpg from where it is at now, which is about 21 mpg. What about the ability to use biodiesel in the Cooper D? Now that would be fantastic.
Please bring the European version of the Cooper D stateside and not some dumbed down US version. If performance is not on-par or improved from the European version, sales figures may be lower than expected.
ReplyTo start with, yes I’d love to see the MINI Cooper D in the US. Now to the questions:
No – I have no interest in owning a car with a very low redline.
Pricing should (and would) be near the Cooper S level – $3k more at least.
I don’t drive enough to worry about fuel costs.
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Chris P May 30th, 2007 Link
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Jon May 30th, 2007 Link
Without hesitation I would buy the new diesel. For me this could be the perfect fit for what I use my Mini for more often than not, I would keep my Cooper S for playing on the weekends.
As for a premium for the vehicle, I would consider 1.5-2k a decent deal.
The main reason this would benifit me is that not unlike a mojority of other Mini drivers I have tunned my Cooper S into a very quick car, although somewhat at teh cost of my MPG. I end up driving quite a bit for work and would love the extra range offered by this alternative. It would allow me to make a very strong impression on several of the bussinesses I deal with that are “green”. The thing I would tell Mini is to look at it this way, the diesel is already a hit in Europe, and given the greater distances in the states they should already see how a greater efficiency car would affect the market.
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ajmrem May 30th, 2007 Link
I would pick a diesel as first choice but want the car configurable as a more upscale car – not a econo-box stripper. Performance near the MCS level would be a decision breaker plus. :)
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OttoMannS May 30th, 2007 Link
I would be interested in a “Dooper” if the price is right. I have never owned a Diesel vehicle before, but the technology behind these high tech diesel is quite intriguing.
My daily commute is only 18 miles roundtrip in relatively light traffic.
Americans still hold an adversity towards diesel cars, probably because of the garbage that was sold here 20-30 years ago. Times have changed and now more than ever, MINI has a golden business opportunity to capitalize on the Dooper and help re-establish diesels as the truly viable gas saving option in this country.
Sorry hybrid fans… Your technology is yesterday’s news and it has proven to be nothing more than a marketing gimmick of mind boggling proportions. Diesels are the wave of the future, not battery operated hybrids.
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steveo May 30th, 2007 Link
I’ve been trying to hold out for the JCW stage 2, but I would jump ship in a minute if there was a diesel option out there. ~60 mpg (US) is hard to argue with. Especially with gas prices so high.
I would pay 1500-2000 for the diesel option as it is now. However, I would love to see a diesel performance option (such as on the S).
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OttoMannS May 30th, 2007 Link
A TurboDiesel would be the icing on the cake. Premium? $1,000 over the a standard gas powered “Gooper”would be fair enough.
However, I can picture MINI dealers gouging customers and marking up new “Doopers”for at least $2.5K $3K over sticker…
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Steve May 30th, 2007 Link
Bring on the diesel Clubman. I would buy one right away. Yes, I’d pay a reasonable premium for the fuel economy and dependabilty.
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AJ May 30th, 2007 Link
I would buy one immeditely. I love my 04 MC, but I would upgrade in a minute if a hybrid or diesel came out. Really, if there’s abything BMW could do to make me hand over the keys to my beloved MINI this would be it. I have heard great comments from people with diesel V-Dubs, and I’ve seen consumer grade pumps springing up. I’m all for it.
Oh yeah, I’m planning to move to Canada, so roll it out there as well (although I see Canada getting it before the US).
Regardless, I was planning on driving my MC until it, or I, died. But if a more environmentally (and wallet) friendly MINI showed up for less than $26K USD I’d be the first one on the waiting list.
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=:¬) May 30th, 2007 Link
Yes
Why should there be a premium?
I guess the fact that it goes farther on a tank… DUH.
I’m thinking a little more thought in the question department would have been good, so that maybe a petition to BMW to suggest that the USA consumers are ready to buy it would be considered at all. Since MF is the top MINI blog and usually at the top of it’s game I find this not up to par but maybe, Don, you have more in store than what meets the eye here, I hope.
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Dan MINI 35 May 30th, 2007 Link
I have a 03 MCS and I have a deposit on a Clubman already and would switch to a diesel in a minute.
I would expect to pay a small ($1000-$1200)premium.
600+ miles to a tank of fuel is fantastic. Diesel is less than regular the moment. Cheap, fast & fun!
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Giskard May 30th, 2007 Link
1) Yes, in a heartbeat (I currently drive a 2006 MCS). 2) If performance was near MCS levels w/ almost double the fuel economy I would pay MCS prices. 3) Awesome fuel economy and great low end grunt – what’s not to like? Plus I could put a biodiesel blend in the tank and I’m sure it would be better towing a load (I do a fair amount of towing and utilize the factory roof rack on my MINI).
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Matt May 30th, 2007 Link
Yes
Hard to say, but I’d pay a fair-sized premium.
Increased fuel economy.
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Willy May 30th, 2007 Link
Yes I definitely would purchase a Mini Diesel – especially in Clubman version. I would be willing to pay 1000 to 1500 premium. I commute between 300 to 500 miles/week and the economy of a diesel would be a real plus.
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Jeff May 30th, 2007 Link
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Dustin in Ohio May 30th, 2007 Link
I recently contacted Mini USA with the following:
“I live in Ohio, I desperately desire a Mini Diesel. In fact, my next car will either be a diesel or a series hybrid with electric motor and generator range extender. As the second option unfortunately remains a dream at this point. I WILL be buying a diesel. My question is… will I be buying a Mini Diesel? Because if you offer it in the United States (Ohio specifically), I will buy one. Otherwise, I will likely end up with a VW or a Honda (in 2009). I want to buy now, but I am going to wait until a car is available that meets my desire for a clean, great fuel economy diesel (or plug in series hybrid with a internal combustion range extender). You have a great car and a great diesel engine. Please make it available to us here in the US.”
MINI USA Responded:
“Thanks for writing MINI. I appreciate that you want to motor with lower costs and less emissions!
I am sorry to say MINI Division currently has no plans to bring a diesel version of the MINI to the United States. But, we are looking into many new ideas for the future of MINI. Please stay in touch with us through MINIUSA.com for updates.”
It’s simple – A diesel will power my next vehicle. If it is the VW Jetta Sportwagen, so be it. I’d rather it be a Mini or Mini Clubman. The choice is Mini USA’s. My mind is already made up. I WANT the Mini or Mini Clubman. But getting 60mpgs in the VW Jetta Sportwagen will be an overriding concern. It is sad that Mini makes such a wonderful car and DECIDES not to sell it to us in the US. It is really a slap in the face.
But the ball is clearly in Mini’s court. If they sell it I will buy it, unless I have already bought a TDI VW.
Dustin in Ohio
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Jon May 30th, 2007 Link
I would possibly consider a diesel, but I would require a good long test drive. The massive torque is appealing, as is the incredible mileage, but I would have to see, in person, just how it sounds and smells while running. I guess I still have a bit of that negativity towards diesels, no doubt due to my older, preconceived notions about diesel cars. Clattery engines, glow plugs, nasty black plumes of exhaust smoke… I know that diesel technology has gotten rid of most, if not all of these negatives, but again, I’d have to see it for myself.
I also wouldn’t want to give up performance. Now, if this Cooper D has near MCS performance, that would truly be having your cake and eating it too.
So, I would have to reserve judgement until test driving one.
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UberFisch May 30th, 2007 Link
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Geo May 30th, 2007 Link
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TampaMCS May 30th, 2007 Link
Yes I would buy a diesel powered MINI, but only if I could option it out like the rest.
I could stand to pay $500-1000 more. Any more than that and the fuel saving vs cost comes into question.
Driving a diesel would save me about 100 a month in gas, and would probably be fun to mod.
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Tony May 30th, 2007 Link
Absolutely. It’s the version I truly want, and I’ll be in the market for a MINI soon. I test drove a diesel Jetta several years ago, and aside from the reduced power, I didn’t notice any differences in exhaust smell. So, yeah, bring it on.
Like some have said, probably $1 or 2k. Along the lines of what VW does with the diesel Jetta.
I don’t drive a lot now, so it wouldn’t help much. But when I drive, I tend to take longer trips. I could do that more often or spend less. I’d love it. If nothing else, filling up is a chore. Fewer trips to the gas station would be great. That could be achieved through a larger tank, of course, but better fuel economy makes much more sense.
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MWBmini May 30th, 2007 Link
I would love one, like others have said, maybe even a clubman D!
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ukplyot May 30th, 2007 Link
Totally. I probably won’t buy another MINI once this one is worn out since I expect by then there will be better options, mileage-wise. But a diesel would change that completely.
Some premium but not Prius-size.
Mostly looking for better economy on my long commute.
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2phun May 30th, 2007 Link
Absolutely.
I wouldn’t have any problem paying and extra $1-2,000 or so for the D.
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chakaluka May 30th, 2007 Link
Absolutely. And I would hope that, like the VW TDIs, the engine is compatible with B100 (100% Biodiesel). That’s what I would run 95% of the time (“real” diesel for ski trips.)
Zero.
See 1, above. Mileage and the B100 option. I am most interested in being able to run biodiesel – roughly the same price, huge reductions in particulate and CO2 emissions, multiple pump vendors in my city, and awesome smelling exhaust.
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Steve May 30th, 2007 Link
Sorry, not interested in buying diesel at this time
Lower performance (although more torque) Fuel is harder to find Would not want to pay a premium over the MC
Diesel prices today seem to be about 70 cents cheaper than premium in chicagoland, but were about 70 cents more expensive 6 months ago
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Hossam May 30th, 2007 Link
I would buy a diesel or any alternative fuel mini for the sake of the technology and moving away from oil-based engines. Where in principle a reasonable premium is ok, I feel that the corporate side should take care of that after a great 50 year run of success and profits.
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Greatbear May 30th, 2007 Link
1: Ya damn skippy. Diesel engines out-mileage hybrids in steady-state higway driving. Modern diesels have emissions profiles almost as good as those for gas engines, and have the potential to use renewable fuels with better returns overall. Plus, with the right performance upgrades, you can have your performance and still get incredible economy.
2: A reasonable premium. Of course, the diesel engine needs special emissions controls these days, and a good diesel engine is beefier built and subsequently costs more. No outrageous premium ‘just because they can charge it’ though.
3: I’ve been driving my diesel truck for over 18 years now. The mileage, durability and power have far outweighed the gas motor option and is still going strong. Diesel fuel can be found almost everywhere now, and biodiesel an option the fuel can reduce the impact on the environment.
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OttoMannS May 30th, 2007 Link
60 positive (Shall we say 59 and counting) responses in less than 3 hours!
MINI, I think we have a strong case for Dooper availability in the US. :)
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KKyle May 30th, 2007 Link
Along with most of the other posters… I would kill for a diesel clubman.
please… please… please… my 50-mile commute is begging you for something fun and fuel-efficient.
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GeorgeCo May 30th, 2007 Link
Absolutely, I’d buy one. I’d prefer it in a Clubman so we can replace our Volvo wagon.
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SrBlanco May 30th, 2007 Link
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Day42 May 30th, 2007 Link
Would you seriously purchase a diesel powered MINI? *If your answer is no, would $5+ a gallon change your mind? I would definitely buy a diesel MINI, no matter what the price of gas was…especially if it’s performance was close to the MCS, and after-market performance goodies were to become available.
What would you expect to pay as a premium for the
Cooper D over the standard Cooper? If the diesel would be more expensive to manufacture, I would be willing to pay a premium…kind of cutting the difference in price of the MC & MCS in half…about $1625. Too expensive and people will gravitate towards the other models.
How would driving a diesel benefit you? Obviously, the increased gas mileage would be excellent for me, and if it’s a clean burning & environmentally-friendly engine, it would benefit the earth and everyone living on it!
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eto May 30th, 2007 Link
I’d consider the Cooper D, but the price would have to be nearer the Cooper than the S. I drive few enough miles that I would only have to fill a Cooper D once a month!!
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Doug May 30th, 2007 Link
What would you expect to pay as a premium for the Cooper D over the standard Cooper?
What savings benefit is left if you’re paying a premium for the car and then a premium for the diesel fuel, which is also hard to find at gas stations? At that point, you’re dealing with the hybrid expense factor in a different way.
When they can make a diesel or a hybrid cost exactly the same, then it would be a great deal. Unrealistic, I know.
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rabeekman May 30th, 2007 Link
sign me up for one, mini and bmw need to expand their stateside engine options.
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Art May 30th, 2007 Link
1 yes 2 1-2 grand 3 I drive ~ 120 miles per day — my own financial savings as well as the environmental benefit
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Justin Montoya May 30th, 2007 Link
1- YES, as long as it’s a turbo. 2- 1-2k 3- The wave of the future, can run on all sorts of types of diesel such as various bio diesel.
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Scott C. Kennedy May 30th, 2007 Link
1) Yes, I would love a diesel Mini. 2) If the Diesel is more expensive to make then I would pay more. 3) Better mileage, better torque. Potentially lower cost in fuel.
Scott
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MiniBeast May 30th, 2007 Link
1- Yes 2- 1-2k would not be too out of line 3- It does not just benefit me. It benefit’s us all with better gas mileage and cleaner air. Why do we even have to beg to get these brought over here? I have a diesel truck for some of the very same reasons I want a diesel MINI. I have to tow a heavy load but I want the best fuel economy possible and it’s rated as cleaner than any of the current gas models on emmisions! I would love to trade our current sedan on a Diesel Clubman, but it really doesn’t sound like MINI is in the business of selling them!
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FH May 30th, 2007 Link
$1-2k.
Increased fuel efficiency, and the ability to use biodiesel.
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lavardera May 30th, 2007 Link
well, I just bought one a cooper, but next time it would be considered/
about the same as an S
ability to use bio-diesel and fryer oil makes it more appealing.
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paullees May 30th, 2007 Link
I have a 2006 MCS, I am not currently tempted by the petrol powered offerings, sure they are faster and a bit more efficient, but I am happy. However a performance diesel with that great gas mileage, particularily with the August 07 update would get me very excited. We currently are a one car family considering a second car and a Diesel Mini would come in right at the top of the consideration list. I live in San Francisco and I must admit the level of peoples excitement when I tell them about the new diesel is very high and they are always asking “but why can’t I get one here?”
Similar percentage level to the UK pricing.
Higher gas mileage, lower CO2, a happy planet!
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ejkd May 30th, 2007 Link
I will trade-in my 07 MCS immediately & get the D as long as price is reasonable.
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Radley May 30th, 2007 Link
If I couldn’t get an S i would but the D instead.
In between the standard Cooper and Cooper S
Amazing gas milage, less trips to the gas station, which means more cash in my pocket….which I like.
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ichor May 30th, 2007 Link
i would be buy one. infact i think a more fuel efficient and environmentally friendly option would be the only way to get me out of my r53 and into an r56. i would pay up to $2k premium but don’t really see why there should be one…
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Vanwall May 30th, 2007 Link
I would buy one, even at a coupla grand more, altho I don’t think thats needed, and I drive a lot – 100,000+ on my ‘02 Cooper already, so mileage would be attractive. Owned a diesel before, and it’s really not much different as a day to day car. Low redline means nothing to an old BMC ‘A’ block pilot like me – grunt in traffic is always appreciated.
BCNU, Rob in Dago
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DesignIt May 30th, 2007 Link
I would not be interested in a diesel unless MINI has created a truly low-NOx, low-particulate output, non-clattering diesel. The only emissions component that I have seen referred to is the CO2 output. The reduction in CO2 is great, but there are more pollution issues concerning diesels than just CO2. You can read more about this and the efforts being made to clean up diesels in the US here There are also health concerns regarding diesel emissions that you can see herec=dvLUK9O0E&b=36089
I applaud MINI’s efforts to create a high-mileage, low emissions car. However, I would like to know the entire story on the MINI D emissions including how the NOx and particulate output compare to the gasoline powered versions. Does anyone have access to this information, or links that could provide this info?
Thanks, John
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steveo May 30th, 2007 Link
1)Yes 2) 1-2K 3) Driving efficiency. Help the environment. Have an engine that will last. Be the coolest kid on the block :).
Please, oh please, please…. make mine a Mini turbo Diesel!!
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DesignIt May 30th, 2007 Link
Sorry, the second link in my comment above is broken. It should be be available here
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Hank May 30th, 2007 Link
I currently have 3 cars, 2006 MCS, 2005 HEMI Durango, and a 2000 VW TDI, I love to drive the bug, it is my daily commuter never getting less then 46MPG! When i bought in new in 1999 the diesel was $1,000 more. It is still going strong after 155,000 miles.
Remember that diesels are MOD friendly poping in new nozzles in about 30 min is like putting a pulley on a MCS!
My MCS gets 26-27 MPG that is 2.77 gallons of High-test 2.77 at $3.40 is $9.40 a day saving me $23.87 a week or $1,100 a year!
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Evan May 30th, 2007 Link
I would certainly buy a diesel MINI. I drove a diesel Renault last summer and the engine was amazing- smooth, not smelly, and super efficient with 44+mpg doing 80-90mph on the autoroutes plus much city driving. A diesel MINI is a no brainer. And as said before, a diesel R55 would be even better. And the sports suspension & LSD should be made available too.
The price premium should be no more than $1200.
The benefits are the torque- so great around town, along with the ecomony. Imagine spending about the same cash to fill the tank yet getting an extra 10-12mpg extending the range by about 120miles! I’ll be doing more lengthy drives and the added economy without a lack of pulling power is something I don’t think I could hold out for. The only temptation would be a 320d….or a 335d… BMW? MINI? Please?
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banjoez May 30th, 2007 Link
Can someone here with connections to MINI/BMW start an online petition for anyone interested in purchasing a MINI D in the US/Canada that could be presented to corporate? I know it might fall on deaf ears and there may be unsurmountable roadblocks (air quality restrictions in certain states, the availability of low-sulfur diesel as mentioned before) but who knows? At least it’s worth a try.
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Kurt May 30th, 2007 Link
I have a MC. It’s more than fine – fun and sporting for me, with great acceleration. So yes, if MINI made a D that delivered the same, I would buy it without hesitation. I shouldn’t be much more than an MC, though.
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zzMini May 30th, 2007 Link
Would you seriously purchase a diesel powered MINI? ABSOLUTELY! Already own a 2002 diesel VW Golf.
What would you expect to pay as a premium for the Cooper D over the standard Cooper? NONE – Diesel engines are cheaper to build – get real…
How would driving a diesel benefit you? Cheaper to run and maintain, longer drives bewtween fillups, and mostly, a small step towards less dependance on the mideast.
As to concerns over availability, Diesel is getting easier to find, and with only minor planning, we have found theit to be not an issue at all.
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PaulGraz May 30th, 2007 Link
People, the Cooper D is already available in Europe. It does NOT perform like an S – read the reviews that are out there. Driving a diesel is different. For some, the lower performance is well worth the increase in economy.
That being said,
(Heck, I’d buy an all-electric MINI if it was feasable)
ReplyWow! What an impressive array of comments. Thanks gang!
I’d buy one, especially if it were priced between the Cooper and the MCS. Preferably a Clubman. With the miles I drive (156K since March ‘03), this would save me a considerable amount of money, not to mention the other benefits (ability to use bio-diesel being one of them).
Keep those comments coming!
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James May 30th, 2007 Link
1 yes
2 on a par with what Europeans pay (or don’t). There should be a greater penalty than having to buy more gas for driving inefficient vehicles.
3 time to go greener.
I’m not sure I’d ultimately want a MINI with all that torque and nowhere to go, though.
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Brian May 30th, 2007 Link
I have an 03 MCS, not planning on selling it ever nor buy an new MCS. But if the Diesel comes to US I would buy it. Cant be too expensive compared to the Cooper since it would defeat the purpose of the extra fuel economy.
If it were up to me all cars should move to Diesel technology and reserve regular petrol engines for special applications where necessary.
The US congress is debating legislation to raise the national fuel economy from 27.5 MPG today to 34 MPG by the year 2016 (I think thats the year) and automakers are going crazy saying that they cant do it. I say BS! Just start making more engines Diesel!
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Mini2Go May 30th, 2007 Link
Yes, we’d buy a Cooper D. It would be my wife’s daily commuter and our “trip” car. I would keep my ‘05 MCS.
Would pay a smallish ($1k-$1.5K) premium if necessary.
Benefits are similar to what everyone else has said. My wife tends to keep her vehicles forever, so the durability of a diesel engine and the timeless styling of a MINI makes for a great combination that will last.
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Larry May 30th, 2007 Link
Mini, it is up to you if you want to keep me as a customer. Make mine an AWD Clubman diesel.
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Alan Smithee May 30th, 2007 Link
As a current MB E320 CDI owner considering the addition of an R56 MCS to the stable, I’d definitely consider a Mini diesel if it was available. However, like the MB, any price increase over the standard model would have to be minimal, and definitely less than the MCS.
I haven’t read through the 100 previous posts, so this may have already been mentioned…but as I understand it, the reason the X5 is the only current BMW diesel scheduled for US sale is because of the less strict emissions requirements for light trucks. None of the cars will pass, the Mini included. Unfortunately, being a brand new model, I doubt the Mini D will be re-engineered anytime soon to comply with US regs.
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heyduard May 30th, 2007 Link
yes. bring the oil burner here!!
Higher mileage is a definite plus, esp for Mini motoring meets. :D
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Jeff May 30th, 2007 Link
Absolutely I would buy a Cooper D, assuming all of the options (not realated to the engine) are kept the same as the MC and MCS.
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SB May 30th, 2007 Link
Yes, but not to replace the MCS. My wife would drive it and it would become our vacation car of choice.
The main reason, imo, to purchase a diesel is to save money. So I wouldn’t expect to pay a premium to save fuel. Something that I don’t understand about hybrids. You can get a Camry for around $20k but a hybrid Camry runs in excess of $26k. Listed at 14 mpg better in the city. It would take a lot of miles to justify the premium paid for hybrid.
Saving money obviously. As said earlier. It would not only be used for daily commuting but also vacation. My wife also keeps her cars for a while. Except this time around as nothing out there excited her so she leased a Jetta. She’ll be turning it in next year so have the diesels ready, db. So a diesel sounds more appropriate than a hybrid to someone who keeps a car a long time
Plus I’d love to get that thing on the dragon. And if the diesel ever materializes over here and we get one. I can guarantee it’ll hit the dragon shortly after break-in. :)
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Sam H. May 30th, 2007 Link
I would purchase a diesel powered Mini if my regular commute changed. Currently I fill up about once a month, and $50 bucks per fill-up every 300 or so miles puts a lump in my throat.
I would expect to pay $1-3K over a standard Cooper.
As for right now, my commuting costs center more around public transit. However, this situation could change at any time, and if so, I would seriously consider something more fuel efficient than my current R53…and currently a VW would be at the top of my list.
Looking at the true fuel range for Hybrid technology (real world results seem to be consistantly around 41 mpg for the Toyota Prius, and not @ 50-60 as claimed), I would prefer to rely on diesel technology for proven mpg results versus that of hyped hybrid technology. I am interested to see what the MPG ranges will be on the window stickers of ‘08 hybrids when the standard MPG measurement changes take effect.
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mapleleaf May 30th, 2007 Link
Currently we are a two MINI family. Mine is an 2004 MCS w/JCW and just shy of 90k miles. My wife has an 2006 MCS convertible. I don’t plan on driving my 2004 forever and am looking at a replacement for it around 2009 or 2010. I love the JCW but have changed jobs since getting it and find myself driving 35,000 to 40,000 miles per year. Not exactly what I had in mind when getting the JCW package. I want my next car to be another MINI and would definitely consider the MINI D.
As most people here have stated, I would be willing to pay between $1000-$1500 more for the D over the Cooper.
As stated earlier, I drive 35,000-40,000 miles per year but my company pays for my fuel. While I would not benefit financially from switching to a vehicle that would double my current MPG I would still want to do it just to know I am doing my part to help cut our demand on foreign oil and reduce emissions all while driving a MINI, the only car out there I really want to own.
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Josh May 30th, 2007 Link
1a. No, I just bought an R56. However I know two people who would love a chance to get their hands on a diesel Mini. Both have (IMO) extremely long commutes, and neither want boring econo-boxes.
1b. If gas was $5/Gal. would I buy? No. I don’t drive enough to save any kind of money over what I would lose trading in the R56. If the option would have been available this spring, I probably would have gotten one though.
Nothing. I’d expect it to be the same price as the Cooper / One. They’re just bolting in a different engine, and the point of a fuel efficient car is to save money all around.
Personally, I would only save a few fuel-ups a year. My commute is short and I rarely take long trips. My friends I wrote of earlier though can see the benefits and are hoping this car coming to America.
Thanks, J
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jason May 30th, 2007 Link
Yes, I would buy one
$1000 – $1500 premium
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Beavers May 30th, 2007 Link
1) Oh Yes 2) I’ll pay up to S price for it 3) I am in my car 2 hours a day, and gas ain’t gettin’ cheaper here in DC. I want a Mini I can convert to BIODIESEL!!!
Beavers
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Robert May 30th, 2007 Link
I would love to have the diesel in the states. Especially a Clubman D. I would pay the 1-2 grand more in a heartbeat.
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HLS May 30th, 2007 Link
I would buy a MINI D in a second! I would pay a 1k-2k premium, based on the fact that you make up for it in the saved money at the pump after a few years and the resale value of a diesel is known to be higher than a gasoline engine. I have been waiting for the new VWs to come out, but a MINI D would override that choice by far. I just think anything to save $$$ at the pump and help our environment is a good thing! :)
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Evan May 30th, 2007 Link
The premium is not for the engine as much as it for the advanced and more complicated emissions equipment required for a diesel above and beyond a petrol engine. Catalytic converters are very, very expensive nowadays.
Please bring over a diesel MINI. Thank you.
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AJ May 30th, 2007 Link
on another note, a hybrid with a diesel engine instead of the typical engine they use, so you’re either electric or on diesel? I’m going to go out on a limb and say you could push the 100 MPG barrier with that
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dr maz May 30th, 2007 Link
I guess this is our de facto petition, so yeah, sign me up– I want the diesel Mini here in the usa. My next car will be diesel, it’d be great if it were a Mini– you listening BMW?
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David R May 30th, 2007 Link
YES. I have already emailed MINI and my MA that my next MINI purchase (have a 2005 MCS) will be a Cooper D, or no sale.
Cost should be commensurate with the cost of production. Since MINI will sell a huge number of D’s in Europe, I expect that to be not more than $1k-2k over the Cooper.
Fuel savings, range, resale value, low carbon emissions, TORQUE!!
Please make all the MCS options, especially LSD (to handle all that torque) available.
Ultra-low sulfur fuel is available in almost every station in California, and it is currently about $.50/gallon less than regular gasoline.
MINI – BE A LEADER ON THIS! It will pay off in the long term.
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Paul C. May 30th, 2007 Link
I might not buy one but I know my Dad would so that’s why I’m posting. I’m waiting for the AWD 260hp Mini :o)
I wouldn’t expect a “D” to be but an option or package upgrade from a basic Cooper. say $2000 more.
I find it as a necessity if gas become upwards of $5 plus dollars which I believe will happen in the next two years. I just moved to Michigan and I find it amazing that Diesel out here is so lopsided in price compared to regular gas. It’s a real save money in your pocket situation that will become more of a reality to more people then they expect.
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MBR May 30th, 2007 Link
PLEASE???
I’ll do “whatever” it takes!!
Cooper D for 2nd MINI!!!!!!
America **** YEAH!!!
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Jeff R May 30th, 2007 Link
Yes, I would buy a diesel MC in a heartbeat!
What would you expect to pay as a premium for the Cooper D over the standard Cooper? I’m not sure of the manufacturing costs of a diesel engine along with all of the necessary emissions changes, computer changes, suspension upgrades and so forth but I can’t imagine it being more than $3-5k US. Even at $5k, IMHO it would be well worth it.
How would driving a diesel benefit you? I would be able to travel a LOT more. My commute to work is less than 8 miles, round trip but I love to go up to the mountains for a weekend as often as possible and a MCD would make it more affordable for me.
BMW, we Americans are ready for this car! I personally love my R56 MCS but with premium gasoline at $3.39+ per gallon, even averaging 32mpg in mixed city/interstate driving, I can’t go as far afield as I would like to.
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bavarian racing green May 30th, 2007 Link
…i have a 06 MCS and had a 03 MC…
…if a diesel were offered via MINI in the USA i can guarantee that–>
…I would buy a Diesel Clubman (keeping the MCS!!)…
…my dad would sell his Jetta TDI and buy a regular diesel MC…
…my brother would buy a diesel Clubman (selling his Mazda 3)…
…then again we’re MINI enthusiasts with a german attitude…
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Dave Mac Mini May 30th, 2007 Link
Let’s do some math.
Assume 12K miles per year, which is about an average figure. If a Cooper could average 40 mpg, and fuel cost $3.50 per gallon, you would use 300 gallons per year at a cost of $1050.00 If the diesel averaged 60 mpg, and diesel cost $2.50 per gallon, you would use 200 gallons per year at a cost of $500.00 Your annual saving would be $550.00, so over 3 years you would save $1650.00.
If you pay less than $1650.00 premium to get the diesel, it would be financially a reasonable thing to do, assuming you would keep the car for three years. If you plan on keeping it longer, you start to make money. Of course, if you are a high mileage driver, the pay back will come sooner.
These are all estimates, for illustration purposes only. Your mileage will vary. So will fuel prices. My point is, there will likely be up to a three year pay back if you buy a diesel, and diesels are not “greener” when it comes to emissions. You will not get MCS performance, not likely even Cooper performance, it will be noisier, and in very cold climates, probably harder to start in the winter. Sure, it’s great to pay less at the pump, but if you pay more up front then you are deluding youself into thinking you are saving money. In our area, diesel fuel is about 45 cents a gallon less than regular, not even close to a dollar less, but I have seen it priced higher than regular many times in the past, so those savings are difficult to predict.
Bottom line, no oil burner for me. Hybrids are even sillier, but that’s another story for another day.
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kcollins May 30th, 2007 Link
The US market needs a boutique sporty diesel model that gets 60 mpg. I would sell my 07 Cooper S in a heartbeat for a Cooper D.
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Crusoe May 30th, 2007 Link
BUT the Mini Cooper D is too small of a car to to pass in the US. Emmissions are almost entirely and stupidly based on cargo capacity of the vehicle. So you can have your super “dirty” 10 Cyl Cummins Diesel Super Cab Truck but you can’t have a extra clean Cooper. The Clubman might just squeek by. Lastly, it’s silly MINI USA doesn’t allow where it’s allowed. Most of us had to order our car and wait months to get it anyway.
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rustysteel May 30th, 2007 Link
I’ve owned diesel VW’s in the past and always appreciated there frugalness. But living in a colder climate (Great white north) always proved to be difficult for the VW’s. Between making sure the car had the block heater plugged in at night to using special additives for the fuel, not as convenient as hoped. But the benefits of great gas mileage and durability were also there. I think a Cheap MINI (the ‘One’ sold only in Europe) would be my answer. No Frills style car with less options (wind up windows?) would be alot lighter and therefore much better on fuel and even performance. Do we really need all those options? (other than maybe A/C) For me the answer is no but that’s just me.
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Teresa May 30th, 2007 Link
Yes I would purchase a MINI D if they became available in the US. I would hope that if they cost more, it is a minimal increase. I would be buying it strictly for the increased gas mileage.
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Tim in MD May 30th, 2007 Link
Yes, yes and yes. Especially if it was available in the Clubman.
I’d say about the same as the VW gas/diesel difference…no more than $1500.
Gas mileage. Anything over 40 mpg would save a lot on my commute and my regular trips from Aberdeen Md to DC and Northern Va for work.
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matt May 30th, 2007 Link
probably not, not even with fuel at $5 a gallon. i don’t drive that much and the particulate emissions of diesel bothers me.
2nd gabe, D = S.
it’d be cheaper to run, granted, but not enough affect to make a change for me.
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LL May 30th, 2007 Link
If there is one, I would go and buy one right now. Like most people have indicated, price point should probably be beween MC and MCS Several benefits I see from Diesel:
Diesel engines are more efficient — so you get more energy from the same amout of fuel, which directly translates into savings in fuel costs. Because of the way diesel engines are built, they tend to have longer life span than their typical gasoline counter parts, which in turn means savings in maintenance costs as well as the long-term usefulness of the car itself. Diesel engines are better at adapting to alternative fuels, such as biodiesel or vegetable oil-derived fuels, so it will not be constrained (as much) by the availability of fossil-based fuel sources. Again, this goes to extend the life span/usefulness of the car. Diesel engines do not exclude the possibility of a hybrid — ever thought of diesel hybrid? Imagine the fuel efficiency of diesel engine combined with energy savings of a hybrid.
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Chuck May 30th, 2007 Link
1).I would absolutely buy one.
2).About a $1,000 more
3).Save on gas and the environment
ReplyNot even close, but the day isn’t over yet.
BTW, the comment record is 196 on the Name the Long Wheel Base MINI post from last June.
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Pete May 30th, 2007 Link
Nice work DB – thanks for posing the question to the silent majority out here -
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steveo May 30th, 2007 Link
Thought I would just point out that if the Cooper Diesel came to the US it would likely have the 13.2 Gallon fuel tank. At 60 miles per gallon, that means we could see approximately 800 miles in a single fill up!
Whoa…
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jillebean May 30th, 2007 Link
I too would SERIOUSLY consider it. I have an ‘06 MCS and wouldn’t want to loose the performance but have a 66 mile round trip commute. 60 mpg over 28 sounds good to me, plus diesel engines last forever. A $1500 premium sounds about right, that is around what VW is getting. When I went from my ‘00 Beetle to the Mini, I had actually looked at another Beetle in a Diesel but was too late. They get snatched up before they even make it to the states, it is about impossible to get one on a whim from a dealer (just sitting on a lot). My husband snatched up a Diesel Jeep Liberty before they disappeared, he loves it. A friend of ours sold a Jetta Diesel he bought used for more than he paid for it after putting another 75,000+ and three/four years on it. There is something to be said for an engine that is just breaking in at 100,000+ miles rather than breaking down.
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Guerry May 30th, 2007 Link
I have been begging Long Beach Mini to go to bat for us since I heard about the awesome MPG of the diesel. I would buy a Mini Clubman diesel in a New York minute! Please Mini/BMW, please!
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Ken B. May 30th, 2007 Link
I’d definitely buy a diesel Cooper. I have a 42 mile round trip to work and back. I bought my new ‘07 Cooper S with the great gas mileage in mind, and besides the car is just totally sexy. I’d expect to pay the same for a Cooper D as a Cooper S. Both are premium cars. The Cooper D would offer outstanding mileage and it’s sexy good looks, where as the Cooper S is still great on gas, just a blast to drive and just down right sexy.
One thing I just don’t understand is WHY???? we can’t get great gas mileage cars in the US?? There out there and the Cooper is just a blast to drive. We live in an age where global warming is a huge issue ,so WHY??? can’t we get these cars in the US????? The Cooper D would offer a near 40% reduction in CO2 emissions over my Cooper S, so again my question is WHY???? What’s wrong with our country in getting these great gas mileage cars to the US???? Seems like the oil companies have to much of grip on our nation, and our government has miss directed moral values. We can let companies like GM build gas hog Hummers that get less than 10 MPG, and more than likely put out as much as 5 times more CO2 than cars like the Cooper D, so what’s wrong with this picture in not letting the Cooper D in the US????
I can’t tell you how much I just love my Cooper S. I get 33-34 MPG just running around to work and back. I’ve had it out on the road once where I got 38.5 MPG. A Cooper D that would get 60 would be better than any Pris I’ve heard of. Several people at work have Prius’s and they don’t get the 60 they claim to get, and then you have that battery issues. Don’t get me wrong here, I’m all for cars like the Prius in helping save our environment; however, when there are cars out there like the Cooper D which will deliver the same environmently friendly CO2 emissions, plus not have the worry of all those batteries, another environmental issue, then WHY???? the Sam hell will our country not allow GREAT CARS like the Cooper D in???? God I LOVE MY MINI!!!!!! Ken…….
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PRPLITO MINI May 30th, 2007 Link
Yes, I would buy. Do you need a deposit today?
I would pay whatever premium is standard for a diesel vs gas engine.
The best benefit would be to the environment and to lowering dependence on foreign oil.
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Jim W. May 30th, 2007 Link
No- I WILL buy one! Currently we are only a one MINI family- the chance to get a new generation and a gas-sipper together is too hard to pass up.
I expect a $1000 premium would be about right, but I don’t know engine design costs. It may take away leather seats, unless I splurge.
My 06 MCS (love it) is not exactly a gas mizer. For the everyday car or the long trip car, the D would give me the thrills without the bill$. …Oh and I think the high performance SMALL engine, diesel or unleaded, is the future of autos, for the next 50 years or so.
Bring the D to the US!
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AnyMiniMineyMo May 30th, 2007 Link
In a heartbeat.
$500 – $1000
Fuel economy and the satisfation of being able to limit the thievery of the rapacious oil cartel.
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Jim W. May 30th, 2007 Link
As far as what we can do… isn’t there a government agency building around D.C. where we can stage a MINI protest? Could we at least flood their agency with some e-mails?
Thinking small…
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gruswitz May 30th, 2007 Link
1) I’d buy a Clubman D in a second. In fact, I will most likely hang onto my ‘05 MC until a Clubman D arrives in the US. 2) I’d pay $1K-2K more, but I’d agree that matching the S would make sense. 3) I normally drive my cars until they drop rather than upgrading mid-life, but for the torque, passenger room, and fuel efficiency, I’d have to upgrade.
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David R May 30th, 2007 Link
YES. My next Mini will be a Cooper D! Get it done, BMW!
Whatever the actual difference in construction cost comes to. Diesels are somewhat more expensive than the equivalent gas engine.
Fuel efficiency, range, torque, low CO2 output, longevity, resale value.
Here in N. California, ultra-low sulfur diesel is very common and now is $.50/gal lower than regular gasoline.
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Ron Arnold May 30th, 2007 Link
Hmmm, lookee what popped up this evening, an interesting single pipe Cooper in Cali…and an interesting double pipe ?
http://www.thecarconnection.com/blog/?p=633
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Bobby May 30th, 2007 Link
I own a 2002 Cooper. I would buy a diesel version tomorrow if it were available. I live in Los Angeles and the such a car is very desirable given the driving conditions in Southern California. BMW Group have lost my mindshare. They need to regain it back by offering these types of choices regarding efficiency. Yes, the consumer likes power. However, it is no longer justifiable to use as an excuse to build mediocre cars in terms of fuel efficency. Change the campaign from “We are an independent company”, We can Say No”, to something more tangible: Like Toyota- even though they do not make particularly attractive cars, they have the progressive consumer’s mind-share. When I think of Toyota, I think they are building and selling efficient cars. MINI is THE brand to capitalise on the notion of efficency (with design to boot). BMW’s cars will need to compete in this new landscape as well. At this point, BMW Group is appearing to be behind (regardless of what is around the corner or in their labs).
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MINItron May 30th, 2007 Link
YES!!!!!! Make mine a Cooper D now!!!!
I would happily pay Cooper S price for a Cooper D with R56 Cooper S torque, and performance goodies.
I had a 2000 Jetta tdi for several years. I miss the mileage, and I miss the unbelievable torque. It never ceased to amaze me how an automatic car with that small of an engine, and that little HP, and that much weight could be so snappy, and so fun to drive.
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ocho9 May 30th, 2007 Link
I have been thinking of purchasing a MINI again. My first 2002 went back lemon law. I drive a Honda Element and I was thinking of adding a second car for drives that I don’t need the space. I was thinking a car for fun and the Mini S. Since I read the post on the diesel at 60mpg. Even if it is a bit slower I would go with that. It gets pretty much twice the gas mileage of the other coopers.
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Tom May 30th, 2007 Link
Maybe.
We shouldn’t trivialize the issues related to overcoming NOx and particulate emissions. These aren’t easy to overcome. They are the reason that we haven’t been able to buy a diesel car in MA (or CA, NY, etc) for some time, and the reason why the next generation of diesels that will appear will be high-dollar Benzes where the cost of a helluva lot of technology can be buried in the sticker – all of the filters and traps and catalysts and electronics are piled on top of the extra cost inherent in building a high compression engine. I have worked extensively with one of the big diesel truck engine manufacturers, and while it’s certainly possible to overcome the hurdles, it simply isn’t that easy or cheap. We’ve added close to $5K in cost making medium duty diesels meet the 2007 emissions standards. While the added cost would be significantly less in a passenger car (where production volumes might be much higher) it would be more than the $1500 figure that most here would see as a reasonable premium.
Yes, diesels are more efficient in terms of power production. Yes, they create less CO2 per unit of power. But they do not burn cleanly. Are the Europeans more advanced than the US because they put more emphasis on CO2 and overall fuel consumption? Yes. Are they more advanced because they have historically been more lax in regulating NOx and particulates? No.
I was skeptical of the hybrid and fuel cell solutions at first, and these solutions will likely never work for torque-heavy applications like over the road trucks. But I’ve come to appreciate what Toyota in particular has accomplished. Yes, those battery packs are expensive and heavy. But in the end they may prove to be as workable a solution as a well-designed diesel with a urea catalyst and a bunch of other environmentally necessary add-ons.
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Adam D. May 30th, 2007 Link
1)Yes, my wife would get rid of our guzzling Landrover Disco and she would buy a four wheel drive Clubman D 2) Depending upon the market and demand-2k-3k over 3) Mileage, Global warming guilt cleanser,Mini coolness (She loves my 05 Mcsc) and so do I
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David98407 May 30th, 2007 Link
Yes, I think I would buy a Mini Cooper D. I also think making that available in all body types (Clubman, Convertible and Coupe) would be good.
The fuel efficiency is critical and a step in the direction of energy independence.
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Ro May 31st, 2007 Link
If 50-60 mpg is achievable in real world driving, I would definitely buy a Cooper D. As long as it isn’t too much more expensive than a base S, I am all for it. It beats hybrid technology hands down in my eyes.
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Jim (Zyamfier) May 31st, 2007 Link
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David Lalonde May 31st, 2007 Link
Yes, I am looking to purchase a diesel powered MINI and would even consider importing a used diesel MINI from Europe.
Higher gas prices would have some influence. I already drive a hybrid, that helps, but I am commuting a lot more and spending ~$50 a week on gas in Vancouver, BC, Canada.
I do not think the diesels should be a premium over the gas versions, but I would likely be willing to pay up to $2,000 more MSRP, but I would hope the MINI D would qualify for an extra $500 rebate from the Canadian federal program for purchasing new fuel efficient vehicles.
I want to drive a diesel to reduce the amount of fuel used and to provide an engine capable of using flex-fuels (biodiesel, B5, B20, B50, B100) to further reduce my impact on emissions of green house gases and soot particles.
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M. Dillon May 31st, 2007 Link
Question#1: Yes. Yes I would. At the end of this year,I will be done with paying off,”Sade”. I’m looking either to trade her in;or,get a second MINI. The MINI D would be a PERFECT FIT for me.
Question#2: I would pay anywhere between $1500-$2500 over the entry level,base MINI Cooper. Besides,if it’s true that one can get at least 60MPG off the MINI D,I would get that money back,and more,in the form of cost savings. Plus,being a former U.S. Soldier,this would be another statement to Big Oil that,”…you’ll be getting less money from me…”
Question#3: See answer to Question#2;plus,I would be doing my part to make the environment a tad bit better.
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Shamus May 31st, 2007 Link
Count me in!!!!
I’m about to put my order in for an R56 “S” right now, but if the Diesel were offered, I’d change my order immediately!
I’d like to see it offered with more standard features, like the S for around $1000-$1500 more than the Cooper, but slightly less than the S.
I love the around-town torque and killer fuel economy, especially here in hilly San Francisco! The Diesel is perfect stop-and-go city car.
Please, please, please bring this car to California.
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Bob May 31st, 2007 Link
I would put a deposit down today to get a Mini Diesel. Sixty MPG would make a significant difference in my driving cost and help the environmental situation. With the advertised torque it would still be a fun car to drive, of course with the S suspension. BMW….do your demographics, this would be a winner.
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Dick Kershaw May 31st, 2007 Link
Yes, I would buy one. I didn’t realize there was no plan to bring them to the US.
I don’t understand why there would be a premium but I’d look for no more than #500-600.
I’d prefer an economical diesel over an electric hybrid. I see less complexity and more longevity with a Mini D.
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Thameth May 31st, 2007 Link
Even though the MINI D isn’t currently available in the US its on my list of vehicles to replace my current 05 MCS as a daily driver when it gets retired to Autox/Track/Fun driving duty.
I have hope that the MINI community will come together and prove to MINIUSA/BMW that we can sustain sales of a 60mpg MINI! I also know a few coworkers that would much rather drive a diesel than a hybrid. I currently own an MCS so paying a bit of a premium for a Cooper is no problem.
MINIUSA, SO US THE DIESEL!!!!!!
ReplyPulling my teardrop camper (DB when are you going to get one?)
As soon as I get my Clubman D ;)
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L May 31st, 2007 Link
Would you seriously purchase a diesel powered MINI?
yes i would
If your answer is no, would $5+ a gallon change your mind?
What would you expect to pay as a premium for the Cooper D over the standard Cooper?
not much more…if the standard is 20k then i would go as far as 21k
How would driving a diesel benefit you?
greatly..i drive a lot and this owuld benefit my mpg’s greatly workin in the suburbs and living in the city
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John May 31st, 2007 Link
I would buy one for sure!
$1500 premium
I don’t drive that much but love small cars & greatly enjoyed my “99″ VW Golf TDI
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Polizei May 31st, 2007 Link
I think brining over the MINI D would be a GREAT idea! People are always complaining about gas prices, so why not bring over a fun car like the MINI in a form that gets great mpg?
I’ll be sticking with my 03′ MCS…but I think a lot of people would jump on a MINI D.
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James May 31st, 2007 Link
1: ABSOLUTELY!!! And as an MA, I can assure you there is interest from the public. Even in Metropolitan New York – there is great interest.
2: I would expect people to very willing to spend $2000-$3500 upfront for the MINI D.
3: Diesel fuels not only will lower the prices we pay for filling our cars, but will also greatly appeal to those looking for an environmentally friendly alternative. MINI drivers are NOT JUST performance nuts – there are droves of people looking for a fuel efficient small premium car, and having 60+ mpg available in the MINI line up is going to seriously make it stand out from Japanese and American hybrids.
Furthermore, as the costs of Hybrid battery disposal and replacement become big news in the next year, MINI could seriously capitalize on this by offering a diesel alternative.
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ME May 31st, 2007 Link
I am trying to decide if my next car will be a VW diesel, or a Mini. I love the size, looks and driving dynamics of the Mini, but I really want a diesel car. A diesel Mini would make my decision EASY!
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Kristina May 31st, 2007 Link
I’d love a Mini D! Especially a Clubman. We’re considering a MC as one of our new cars, but if we can get 60mpg and have the torque of a diesel – yes! That car goes to the top of the list.
I’d pay $1500-2k for the diesel.
Diesel = better fuel economy, and diesel is currently cheaper than 91 where I live in Cali. Plus it seems that the technology is finally to the point where it’s a ‘green’ choice for a car. I’d rather have a lil oilburner than a ‘hybrid’ car that’s got a half-ton of toxic batteries in it.
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New York May 31st, 2007 Link
yes yes and yes I would buy one, even if I had to buy it out of State.
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ValkRaider May 31st, 2007 Link
Yes. Absolutely, in fact it is the car I am wishfully waiting for.
probably about $1k – comparable to the VW TDI premium.
Higher mileage, sexy car, and ability to use biodiesel.
I have not owned a gasoline car in just over two years, and have owned at least one diesel for over 5. I won’t buy another gasoline car, diesel’s perform too well. The torque is so satisfying. I had a 2003 VW New Beetle TDI which was fun to drive, and a 2005 Jeep Liberty CRD which tows better than some full sized trucks.
PLEASE BMW BRING THE DIESEL MINI COOPER TO THE STATES!
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Mike May 31st, 2007 Link
Yes , or more specifically H#LL YES! $1000 or so 90 mile round trip commute everyday.
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ZBS May 31st, 2007 Link
As a current owner of a Golf TDI that is over 7 years old, I am looking for another Diesel and the Mini would be a welcome addition to my garage. Bring it here!
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ValkRaider May 31st, 2007 Link
I suggest that those who want to buy a Mini Cooper D – tell Mini USA!
http://www.miniusa.com/#/contactFaq/contact
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New York May 31st, 2007 Link
yes in an instant, even if I had to buy it out of state.
1000$ over Invoice.
Safe the Environment.
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Kbike May 31st, 2007 Link
Absolutely I’d buy a Diesel Mini. My son drives an ‘84 Mercedes 300D and I’ve been sold on the technology from the day we it brought it home. Loads of torque decent gas milage and engine simplicity and longevity that’s time has come. Please bring the diesel Mini’s to the US.
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BaneTX May 31st, 2007 Link
If they announced tomorrow they were bring the Diesel mini to the states I would be calling to get on the waiting list immediately.
I however do not feel that this is a premium option and should be priced accordingly to the European and UK pricing. But having said that if it were 1000 to 1200 would about right I think.
Driving 80 miles to work each day I need the fuel savings already despite getting 33-37 from my Civic. The diesel Mini would be a saviour. We need more diesel options over here than there are and should be. So bring it on.
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Bilbo Baggins May 31st, 2007 Link
Yes, I would. I a flash. I loved my 1976 Diesel Rabbit. And it wasn’t even a turbo.
A $1000 – $1300 premium would be about right.
The ability to run Bio-diesel would be a plus.
I’ll agree with whoever it was that mentioned that the full line of Cooper/Cooper S opitions needs to be available on any D version of the MINI. Can you just imagine, a car as fun to drive as a MINI and a diesel. WOW, best of both worlds.
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ValkRaider May 31st, 2007 Link
@Tom:
We shouldn’t trivialize the issues related to overcoming NOx and particulate emissions. These aren’t easy to overcome. They are the reason that we haven’t been able to buy a diesel car in MA (or CA, NY, etc) for some time, and the reason why the next generation of diesels that will appear will be high-dollar Benzes
You apparently have not been following diesel technology much… :)
The impacts of NOx are still being debated, as newer evidence is showing that NOx is not quite the smog producer that it was once thought.
1 does not, however, mean that NOx is good – nor does it change regulations. However, since the US converted to ULSD it makes NOx filtration possible.
The current generation of diesels using particulate filters, and NOx filtration – are cleaner than many gasoline cars on the market.
The 2008 Model year VW TDI cars will be 50 state legal.
The reason that car companies don’t offer diesel options in the USA while they do abroad is not because the emissions equipment is expensive – it is because the emissions equipment is expensive AND there is a perceived lack of interest in diesel in the USA.
The car companies for some reason think that people in the USA won’t buy diesel cars so there is no reason to go through the expensive process of developing, testing, and certifying the emissions equipment for the USA regulations.
This is starting to change as more people hear about the cars in Europe getting 60mpg while our gas prices start to hit $4 a gallon.
But the government can help, by increasing fuel economy requirements – it means that more diesels will be available because they get better mileage than the gasoline equivalents. And now that the diesel engines run clean there is no reason not to have them here in the USA.
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ValkRaider May 31st, 2007 Link
Sorry about that font issue in my last comment. Apparently the “number” symbol affects the font size…
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Scott May 31st, 2007 Link
I’d absolutely purchase a Mini D! Especially a Clubman. A Clubman diesel would be at the top of my list for a new vehicle.
I’d pay $1-1.5k for the diesel.
Diesel = better fuel economy and more torque. Diesel is currently cheaper than 93 where I live. Plus I hate stopping at the gas-station to fill up. I would only have to fill up every 2-3 weeks getting 50+ mpg.
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Sam H. May 31st, 2007 Link
The reason that car companies don’t offer diesel options in the USA while they do abroad is not because the emissions equipment is expensive – it is because the emissions equipment is expensive AND there is a perceived lack of interest in diesel in the USA.
If this is the reason, then why are hybrids and their expensive technology such a hit here in the states? I personally place greater longevity/durability in diesels vs. hybrid technology, but if our options are limited, then what choices do we truly have. The way I see it, VW seems to be doing okay with Diesels in the states. Otherwise they would have discontinued them long ago, and not bothered working with the tighter restrictions for ‘08.
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dwjjtx May 31st, 2007 Link
1)yes (and getting ready to decide next purchase NOW) 2)1K or equivalent to VW TDI additional 3)better mileage, longer range, hopefully better reliability
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Dave Mac Mini May 31st, 2007 Link
1a. We already pay over $5.00 per (imperial) gallon for premium fuel here in Southern Ontario.
I would not buy one even if the cost was less.
In my opinion the increased mileage does not offset the disadvantages of noise, reduced power, smell and hard to find diesel fuel. I also drive a Smart car, which is a very high tech diesel, and for 2008 even the Smart will be only available in the US in the gasoline powered version.
Modern cars are extremely efficient compared to those of even 10 years ago, and in my opinion contribute little to “global warming”. As a meteorologist, I am not a believer in the religion of “global warming”, as I am convinced that it is not caused by human activity, but is a natural phenomenon that will reverse itself in a few years. However, it is now so politically correct to be “green” that I realize my opinions are not popular, and the Al Gore types will have their followers. I will not be among them.
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Glen B. May 31st, 2007 Link
Yes. I will buy one, definitely. I will trade my 2006 MCC in, and drive home the diesel whether hard or soft top.
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Jim I. May 31st, 2007 Link
Ya know, it took almost AAALLLLL the way down this list, before someone FINALLY put their finger on the REAL issue. It’s not Mini. It’s US Government regulations.
I wouldn’t touch a diesel with a ten foot pole and a respirator. Regardless of what Europe does, there is a link between diesel emissions and liver cancer. I personally knew I guy who died of that when I worked for the railroad.
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Ozmotear May 31st, 2007 Link
1a. No, I already want the damn thing.
$1,500 Max
I’ll be able to drive 2x longer for the same price. In a Mini no less. :D
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Richard May 31st, 2007 Link
I’m in UK and willing to pay the £1100 premium for the cooper D – but really only £1000 as come with ASCT as stnd – £100 option on stnd Cooper.
I do not understand why not available in US and how such low CO2 104-new [prev 118] is not acceptable in certain states?!?
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andrew May 31st, 2007 Link
Yep – I’m in for the mini d.
After they sell a bunch of them I don’t expect there will be much excuse for a premium but I imagine I’d probably pay more.
Biodiesel, ditch dino and eat Priuses.
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steveo May 31st, 2007 Link
Are there any plans for a Diesel performance option in the UK or otherwise?
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Coruscation May 31st, 2007 Link
Would buy one for sure.
Would pay $1500 over base Cooper, and would want sport+ suspension and sport seats, too.
Previously had a 1986 VW turbodiesel, and loved it for 260k. Also had a 2002 Cooper, and now have a Subaru STi (love it as a fun car), and as a commuter car and highway cruiser, would like the agility of the MINI combined with diesel attributes.
Disel gives me along cruising range, and economy of driving an extra 30 miles without worry.
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Patrick Tescher Jun 1st, 2007 Link
I would drive a mini diesel, especially if it was faster than my current VW.
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GrFa Jun 1st, 2007 Link
Yes I would. I would even have considered the old One D (had two Cooper Ss).
I would pay a small premium for the D, maybe $1000-1500?
Not only will a D be very economical to run, it should also last a long long time if it is as reliable as most diesels. Also, there are no hybrid batteries that need to be replaced and disposed of (which can’t be good at all for the environment, the hybrids major downfall). Also, a diesel MINI would provide a much better driving dynamic than a hybrid ever could. However, if the diesel doesn’t come stateside my next MINI would definitely be a 40mpg Cooper or Clubman.
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TraceC Jun 1st, 2007 Link
I drive an aging ‘98 TDI and would switch to a MiniD in a heartbeat.
Even if gas dropped to $2/gal I’d still prefer to drive torquey diesel.
I’d pay a slight premium, $1000 – $1500 max. I also want the option of a decontented car. No fu fu leather or power windows to break. Give me a radio and A/C.
How would driving a diesel benefit you? I commute 160 – 200 miles a day! $$$$$
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ValkRaider Jun 1st, 2007 Link
“In my opinion the increased mileage does not offset the disadvantages of noise, reduced power, smell and hard to find diesel fuel.”
My New Beetle TDI was not noticeably noisier than the gas New Beetle we replaced. It was just a completely different sound.
Reduced power? Seriously? I find the drivability and power band of modern diesel vehicles to be significantly better than gasoline. In everything from Chevy’s Duramax truck, to the Jeep Liberty CRD, to the Volkswagen TDIs. I find that the diesel versions in my opinion outperform the gasoline versions in regular driving!
Smell? What smell? I ride a motorcycle and a bicycle and one of the worst smelling things is a gasoline powered car that has not warmed up yet. I hate being behind them in the morning. Modern clean diesel’s have no “smell” that you speak of – at least not any worse than any other car.
I have driven diesel vehicles all over the western USA, from dense urban areas like Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, and LA proper – to suburban areas like metro LA / Orange County, Albuquerque, and Phoenix – to rural areas all in between. I have never once had a hard time finding a diesel pump. Only a couple times while I was in remote areas I had to use a large “truck sized” nozzle in my VW TDI which was tricky… But that was it.
The bigger issue is since in Oregon we can’t pump our own fuel, I have to convince the attendant that our Jeep Liberty CRD really is a diesel…
:)
I think this proves my point, however, is that many people have lots of misconceptions about diesel vehicles – based on the old crappy diesels from the 70s and 80s. And thus auto manufacturers don’t want to expend the effort and costs to get the vehicles and power-trains approved for US sale when they know that the majority of people think diesels are “slow, noisy, stinky, and hard to use”.
But times are changing. However Mini seems to think that the Cooper D will not sell in the USA, they respond with a form letter saying “we have no plans to bring diesel to the USA”.
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Dave Mac Mini Jun 1st, 2007 Link
As I said, I drive a Smart diesel, one of the most technologically advanced diesel engines going. In the area I live in, a region of about a half million people, there are very few places to fuel a passenger car diesel. As far as noise, smell, and cold weather hard starting, I ralize that diesels have improved vastly in the last few years, but they are not yet ready for prime time. This is not a misconception, this is based on the ownership experience.
Diesels are popular in Europe because they generally do not travel the vast distances that we do, the fuel costs twice as much and their wages are not comparable to North Americans, so the cost of operation is very important.
I do not think that a MINI diesel will even come close to my MCS in the area of performance, and since I only keep a car for three years, there is no financial advantage for me.
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Timmy B Jun 2nd, 2007 Link
A diesel mini would be my dream car. Really! My only hesitation with purchasing a mini right now is that while it has good milage, I imagine within a few years it will be seriously outdated. The diesel mini is the mini of the future. The U.S. is ready.
$2,000-$3,000
Buying a mini marries my desire to have a fun car, while also reducing my co2 footprint. If a mini D doesnt come out, I may have to buy the boring Prius, and that wouldnt be fun at all.
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David R Jun 2nd, 2007 Link
It is interesting to note that while the Cooper D will never out-accelerate a MCS in a drag race, it will have similar around-town acceleration at low RPM.
The Cooper D looks to be much better than the Smart CDI; it has well over twice the HP and torque, and gets somewhat better mileage and lower CO2 output in the European combined tests. Plus 4 seats of course.
MCD(2008) Smart D
MPG: 60 55 CO2: 104 144
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Sarah N Jun 2nd, 2007 Link
1)Yes PLEASE bring the diesel to the USA!!! I am scheduled to replace my MINI in 2009 and have been wondering if my conscience would allow me to get another MINI with other more environment-friendly options are out there (hybrids, clean diesel). I especially would prefer the durability and bio diesel capability of the diesel engine since my commute is about 57 miles/day RT mainly freeway and the hybrids have the advantage mainly for city driving.
2)I would be willing to pay to cover the additional costs incurred by the manufacturer, but I chafe at the thought of a “premium” above and beyond that.
3) Mileage and environmental-friendliness
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pete Jun 2nd, 2007 Link
Realistically, how common can you see diesel in local gas stations? The availability of getting diesel remains my biggest concern. Does anyone have an authoritative information? Also, don’t you think the HP is a little low?
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Brent B Jun 3rd, 2007 Link
Yes I would buy a diesel mini tmrw!!
I would pay a premium especially if the mileage was better.
The best New York City Biodiesel ride I can think of. I must have one!!
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Ken Jun 3rd, 2007 Link
1) I’d take a Cooper D in a heartbeat, especially one with the economy quoted in the article. 2) depending on what actual fuel economy turns out to be for this vehicle I could see the diesel engine adding between $1500 and $3K to the price of a regular Cooper. 3) The diesel probably wouldn’t replace my 06 MCS but rather would be a great addition to it, giving me a reliable, economic car that’s more fun to drive and more efficient in the real world than a hybrid and still letting me have a Sports car to play with and work on on the weekends. The benefits in fuel economy and range would greatly help me financially and the increased durability of diesels and cheaper cost of ownerships would be big pluses too.
ReplyRealistically, how common can you see diesel in local gas stations? The availability of getting diesel remains my biggest concern.
I can’t remember the last time I went to a gas station in California or Nevada that didn’t have diesel.
Also, don’t you think the HP is a little low?
The horsepower is the same as the Cooper. If you think the horsepower for the Cooper is a little low, then I guess the answer would be yes. Otherwise, I personally get by just fine with 115, but would really love the extra torque!
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Tim Jun 3rd, 2007 Link
Yes I would buy the diesel Mini in a heartbeat. I plan to buy a 2007/2008 Mini in the fall but would MUCH prefer if that Mini were a diesel version.
What is wrong with BMW for not considering this? With fuel prices rising as much as they are in the U.S. a clean burning diesel Mini is a no-brainer.
BMW/Mini IF YOU ARE READING THIS, YOU MUST BRING THE DIESEL MINI TO THE USA. WE NEED THIS OPTION!!
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Ken B Jun 3rd, 2007 Link
When and wear can I sine on the list for one and when will it be aviable in the US Have a 1999 Jetta TDI 177,000 on itgetting 40+ mpg
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pete Jun 4th, 2007 Link
DB, I live in Seattle area and I hardly see diesel offered in local gas stations except those near highway or freeway. Also, I have a feeling that the diesel price will go up once it is in demand. So we cannot count too much on it being less expensive today although the extra miles that it would run still counts a lot.
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Per Jun 4th, 2007 Link
I’ve already owned a BMW diesel (‘85 524 TD), and I’m holding out for a diesel as my next new car. Mini-D would be perfect (a LOT more interesting than the upcoming Jetta TDI). PLEASE BRING IT OVER, BMW (or maybe a diesel 3 wagon?).
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Chad_ Jun 4th, 2007 Link
Yes, I would buy one, especially a Clubman.
I’d pay $1750 – $2000 over the Cooper, especially since I would be deciding between the D and the S. I drive vehicles into the ground, so having an engine that may last longer and require less maintainance would be a plus.
My commute doesn’t let me go over 40MPH legally, so there would be few occasions where I would miss the HP of a gasoline engine.
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California sunshine Jun 4th, 2007 Link
Yes.
If manufacturing cost increase required, yes, I’d willing to pay up to $1K premium for the Cooper D over the standard Cooper.
My near future commute in Southern California area is expected to be VERY LONG (30 miles plus)! And better mileage is better for the environment in this already polluted states. Definitely willing to do whatever to save the environment for our future generations.
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Mark Hiatt Jun 4th, 2007 Link
I would love to buy a diesel MINI. We just got our first dealer, here in Nebraska, so my MINI juices are really getting amped-up, now. I want to buy one more new car in my life, to keep forever, and this would be terrific, $3, $4, $5 gas or beyond.
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DanD Jun 5th, 2007 Link
I currently drive a Dodge with a Cummins turbo diesel. I actually use this vehicle as a truck from time to time, but would much prefer a sub-compact quality diesel for around-town trips, which is most of my driving. I would pay a $3k premium for a quality diesel car.
I make and study biodiesel. I would NOT put biodiesel in a mini that I owned. Biodiesel is easy to make – but not easy to make well. Too little regulation and industry quality controls spell too much warranty trouble for the auto industry. The efficiency gain is nice, but the real benefit of a diesel mini would he the LOW REV engine and the very wide torque curve as compared to a gasoline engine. This makes for a very enjoyable driving experience. The added safety of a virtually non-flamable (high-flash point) fuel is nice as well.
BMW USA – if you read this, I hope you bring the mini D to the USA. If you do, I will buy one.
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cj Jun 5th, 2007 Link
I would buy one Pronto, so would two family members. I would hope they keep it as close to the base cooper as possible. I think if they price it right and marketed it right it would be a big seller! I am looking for a cheap diesel that still has character and has a fun to drive factor! MINI!
If done right they wouldn’t be able to make them fast enough!
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Geoff Jun 5th, 2007 Link
Yes. I would buy a Cooper D as soon as I could get it for roughly MSRP or less.
$500 – $1200 over the standard Cooper.
Less money spent at and less visits to the gas/diesel station. Plus it will be nice to know I’m driving a more efficient vehicle.
I also contacted MINI USA telling them I’d buy the Cooper D if they offered it in the States in 2008. I got the same response from MINI USA that ‘Dustin in Ohio’ posted here earlier.
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roberto Jun 5th, 2007 Link
Yes, I would buy a diesel Mini for the low end torque and the mileage. I test drove a used 1998 VW TDI back in 2000 and was hooked on that low-end power you could only get with a detroit iron block (so I thought). But the indecision between state and VW, was hard to find one to buy since in California, without too much money for very used vehicle or a new purchase. The Clubman as diesel would allow me to use it in more places besides daily commute. As it is with greedy gas distributors, I’m waiting for the Jetta Wagon TDI to pop out here in California next year (the sooner the better), only because Honda will take too long to offer one in a smaller car in the USA. So the best of all purchases would be a Mini as diesel. I drive daily 28 miles round trip but I want to drive without thought to fuel purchase to buy a hamburger 2 hours away just so I can catapult that car up the canyon all the way to the burger stand (Paso Robles via Carmel Valley and King CIty can be a long canyon)!
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Vid++ Jun 6th, 2007 Link
I am seriously considering a Mini for my next car, if I could get the “D” I would trade in my car today!
I would rather not pay a premium for a Diesel Mini, if there was one, I would probably figure out how much time it would take to recover the premium through fuel savings.
Our family is a two car family. With Gas prices going crazy and refinery production at maximum my wife and I talk about having one Diesel Car and one Gasoline car. That way if there was ever a shortage of one type of fuel we could use the other car more.
I also like having the option of using bio-D.
I also like the fact that the Mini D gets better mileage has lower emissions that a Prius.
I also like the idea of going 600 miles on a tank of Gas.
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Josh_S Jun 6th, 2007 Link
1) Yes I would buy a MINI D, in a heart beat. I drive 1005 MINI S now, but I want my next car to be a small diesel. I love MINI, but I may have to think about an Audi or Mercedes-Benz C class if they come out with a diesel and MINI doesn’t.
2) I suspect it would be $1000, to $2000 and worth it.
3) The biggest benefit would be knowing I was driving a much more fuel efficient car and thus reducing my impact on the planet. It would also be nice to be able to thumb my noes at the Prius snobs here in Los Angeles.
To Conclude… BMW, Please give us a 50 state legal MINI!
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Josh_S Jun 7th, 2007 Link
It looks like this may be my next car if MINI doesn’t bring the D to California. Mercedes-Benz C220 Bluetec. 43 mpg in a small luxury sedan? I would rather have a MINI, but this seems like a cool alternative.
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Tom Jun 7th, 2007 Link
If they had it I would buy it. I drive an SUV and I am holding off giving it up until I can get a 15-20k diesel here in the US. The mini would win out over VW, but I can’t buy it if it’s not available! much cooler than a rabbit diesel would be, especially with regenerative braking and engine off in neutral. Sweet!
1-2 k
Fun & Efficient.
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vordo Jun 9th, 2007 Link
I just replaced my 03 MCS works with a 2006 jetta TDI. I sold my car back to the dealer and told him that I would buy a MC D on the spot, no question. I told him that it was important for him to communicate with his boss that they lost a sale. I think we should get everyone we know to go test drive a 07MCS and then say, ‘if it comes in diesel, I’ll buy it right now…’ get a few thousand people to do that and BMW would change their tune quickly.
so the answer is yes, and I would pay a premium (I just did for the jetta which was more for the car when new…)
and yes, I’d do it do I can biodiesel.
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Brian Hague Jun 9th, 2007 Link
2.The engine, and a properly matched transmission so I could cruise at 75MPH with less than 2000 RPM… I would pay up to $3,000 more.
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Brian Hague Jun 9th, 2007 Link
As I said, I drive a Smart diesel, one of the most technologically advanced diesel engines going. In the area I live in, a region of about a half million people, there are very few places to fuel a passenger car diesel. As far as noise, smell, and cold weather hard starting, I ralize that diesels have improved vastly in the last few years, but they are not yet ready for prime time. This is not a misconception, this is based on the ownership experience. Diesels are popular in Europe because they generally do not travel the vast distances that we do, the fuel costs twice as much and their wages are not comparable to North Americans, so the cost of operation is very important. I do not think that a MINI diesel will even come close to my MCS in the area of performance, and since I only keep a car for three years, there is no financial advantage for me.
Well since they only sell the car in Canada… I would hope your car wouldn’t light off immediately when you started it on a cold morning; gas or diesel.
Seriously, you drive a Smart Diesel. You are not the market for this car, you would never buy a Mini, let alone a Cooper (or a S, or a D, or a JCW).
Since you are driving a car that tops out at 65 MPH and only gets 60 MPG, does 0-60 in a piss-off-the-people-behind-you time of 25 seconds I sincerely hope that you find a “real” diesel to compare versus your neutered .8 liter POS less than half of an engine. Now I see someone in the 4,000 whopping people who actually got ripped, and are still pissed about it…
As for only keeping your cars for three years, diesels in North America have a significantly higher resale value after the first year. This would give you a couple thousand dollars in your pocket.
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HWgeek Jun 12th, 2007 Link
Yes I would buy a “D-Coop” ™ from BMW/Mini Gas it too expensive at $3 a gallon currently!
I could see $2K premium at most
Driving a commute of 100 miles round trip, gas at an average of 25mpg, thats a 100% savings.
that being said, I got lucky and got a Jetta TDI (03) last year. In great shape. And I plan to drive it until it falls apart. However I think the styling on the Mini in general is awesome and would trade in for the Mini if there was D version that was nicely appointed. I get 50mph on average, 70mph on cruise control. Very happy with those figures. Diesel is relatively easy to find if you look for it, Here in New England I never have a problem filling up. And if I am at 1/4 tank and see a station, I fill up. at 600 mile cruising range, I don’t worry about the next station. Middle of the winter it takes the glow plugs 15 sec to get “ready”, the car starts up, 10 sec to let it settle / warm up a bit. And off I go. Very quiet car, well sound deadened, just different sound. No nasty odors, no lack of performance, never any “gelling” issues. All in All, trivial bits for the savings. At 100K miles had the appropriate service done, and had one glow plug go bad. thats it. All my friends are jealous. VW can’t keep Diesels in stock. BMW here is an opportunity for marketshare!
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Daniel Kongs Jun 17th, 2007 Link
I already own a diesel and use biodiesel that I make myself. The fuel saving are incredible and the “feel good” factor is satisfying. I am currently looking for another diesel and very disappointed at the selection. Also own a Mini and would be first in line to buy diesel version. I hope gasoline costs get higher so people in US become aware. Recently returned from Europe – much better.
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John Jun 19th, 2007 Link
I would definitely buy one.
I don’t like to say I would pay a premium unless the manufacturing costs warrant but $5-700 over the standard Mini seems reasonable.
I would reduce my energy costs and get a lower environmental impact all at the same time enjoying the ride.
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Lance Jun 22nd, 2007 Link
I have been waiting for years for the diesel mini. Ever since I heard about the Europen version I have wanted it. I have emailed more than once via the Mini website asking for it. I complain to friends about it. I remind people occassionally how the U.S. does not have access to a great many cars that we should. I truly want a fuel efficient car that isn’t boring to drive, and the Mini is the ultimate. Now that teh MPG rating is 40 for the Mini I am considering getting that. But it really bothers knowing there is such a car that I can not get (the Mini One D).
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Ron Jun 25th, 2007 Link
If BMW doesn’t void the warranty with ASTM certified quality biodiesel, then I’d definitely purchase a diesel Mini!!! I almost purchased a new Mini when they came out, but bought a VW diesel Golf instead only so I could use biodiesel (btw, the electrical engineering on V-dubs suck)!
They should also consider offering a second set of 24-inch reverse doors aka “suicide” doors on the newly designed Mini. That would make it a 5 door with the hatch and also my dream car. I’ll even let them take my idea without paying me… yep, I’m that generous. Although if they want to hire me to consult on coolness, I’ll consider.
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Dan Jun 28th, 2007 Link
I heard about this car from a guy who just got back from Europe. I would absolutely buy this – and I would pay at least a 1000 premium now – and that number only goes up as the price of gas goes up. I currently drive a 1979 240D that gets 28mpg (240Ds rule) – I would think that the car companies could double that number (and bring the car to the states) in a lighter car with over 25 years to work on it . . . we’re not asking for the world here.
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Duane Jun 29th, 2007 Link
1) The only vehicle I would buy is diesel or hybrid and I have been waiting for a diesel Mini for years – yes, read ‘years’ as most people know how Europe tromps the U.S. in diesel use and technology. 2) I never understood the ‘diesel premium’ as diesel engine/drivetrains are actually less expense to build than gas. The problem is that we are charged more because of the fact that far fewer diesels are sold and thus a ‘premium’ is charged to balance the break-even equation for the manufacturer. Like someone else said, if the U.S. offered premium features for diesel vehicles like they do for all other vehicles, instead of the trend for base models, perhaps far greater numbers of drivers would choose the diesel — but yes, I would pay the premium because I WANT ONE! 3) Better mpg; diesel is a better fuel for environment; diesel costs less; BIODIESEL!!!!!; low end torque; BIO/VEGGIE DIESEL.
Please, sell me one today.
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James Jul 1st, 2007 Link
I want something other than a gas powered vehicle with clean diesel. If it comes in the Mini, fine, but the new Jetta Sportwagon for 2008 may be the best solution for the middle class.
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david Jul 2nd, 2007 Link
I would certainly consider a mini diesel and am looking for a small diesel hatchback in the next few years. A 1-2K premium over the standard cooper would certainly be in the price range.
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Tim Jul 3rd, 2007 Link
YES I would most certainly buy a diesel Mini. Yes I’ll pay a slight premium. I want one for the 2008 model year. Please BMW export to the U.S.A.
It is a no brainer decision. Sporty performance plus fuel efficiency and the availability of diesel fuel at most pumps. What more is there to think about? Of course consumers in the U.S.A want this!
Make it happen for 2008 and hurry!
Now if we can just get the hybrid tax credit extended for diesel powered cars also!!
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shannon Jul 6th, 2007 Link
Yes, yes, a thousand times yes, I’d by a diesel Mini in a heartbeat.
I’d pay a premium — ~$1-2,000. Ideally if it was based on actual increased production cost, but realizing that’s a bit utopian … would still pay a premium just to get the diesel ball rolling in the US.
A fun little car to drive … great mileage … the ability to run on biofuels … what more could you ask for?
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Cedric Jul 6th, 2007 Link
Yes I would be interested in a Mini Cooper D, as long as it is available with the improvements such as auto stop/start and regenerative breaking. However I would be even more interested a fully electric or plug-in hybrid Mini Cooper. My next car will be electric. If Mini doesn’t offer one, I will buy it from another car manufacturer.
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Lori Jul 11th, 2007 Link
I would buy the MINI D in a second! I can’t believe they don’t offer it here in the U.S. where people whine about gas prices and they have been the lowest in the world? I am buying the 2007 MINI spring of next year, it would make me happy to purchase the MINI D!
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Steve Jul 11th, 2007 Link
My wife and I would buy the MINI D without a second thought! She has a commute that would help us in gas bills each month. And besides Diesel is the way to go!
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Bob Pierce Jul 12th, 2007 Link
I have just called the Mini dealer and asked “When is the Mini diesel getting to the USA?” I can’t believe how the European makers are dragging their heels on this issue. In California, where I live, we are close to $4 a gallon for premium now, and that is self-serve, while diesel is about a dollar less. We drive long distances. We NEED economy and environmentally sensitive cars and we are the biggest car market in the USA. What’s not to like? Do they highly-pay executives to make command decisions of this nature. If the diesel meets California’s strict requirements, bring it over here and watch it take off. In my town every third car is a Prius at the present time. A Mini would be so much more fun to drive and easier to park. This is a no-brainer.
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Bradley Jul 12th, 2007 Link
the mini cooper D? man. that will be the best thing that comes to America. Since America is based on oil and these “pigs” don’t really want to do anything to help our planet. We could!! We could drive the most cleanest burning fuel car. not to mention biodiesel. Save us a lot of money and trips to the gas station. higher MPG. oh and not to mention, CLEANER AIR!!!
PLEASE LET THE MINI COOPER D COME TO AMERICA!!
p.s. I’m a 16 year old who drives a mini cooper. I’m really big on gas by the way.
ReplyDo they highly-pay executives to make command decisions of this nature. If the diesel meets California’s strict requirements, bring it over here and watch it take off.
Therein lies the problem. Currently, the MINI Cooper D DOES NOT meet California’s emissions requirements for NOx, only for CO2 emissions.
As much as you can be upset with MINI and BMW about this for not developing the technology to make the car 50 state legal, you have to also be mad at the law makers in the 9 states that are messing things up. They want all passenger automobiles to meet the same strict standards, but only take tailpipe emissions into account, not the fact that the MINI Cooper D actually has less CO2 emissions than a Prius and gets better mileage. Unbelievable, I know.
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Diesel desperado Jul 16th, 2007 Link
I Love diesels in my opinion are advanced, clean (they have less co2 emissions tha gasoline counter parts) and durable. If we use diesel we could reduced our oild addiction 30-40% plus we can use biodiesel (used vegetable oil, soy beans etc) I currently own a Passat TDI and MB E320 CDI
yes
1k-1.5k
I do a long commute I will save a lot of money
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Bill Sans Jul 18th, 2007 Link
Yes, I’d buy a Mini D in a heartbeat. I think that pricing it inbetween the base and the S would make sense. The mileage would make my day, and having good torque would be icing on the cake. If the power could be brought up a little, that would be even better.
Personally, I’d be using Biodiesel 20 in the winter and full Biodiesel 100 in the summer. Hey, it works, and why not. Diesel is available for passenger cars here in Iowa, so finding the proper diesel wouldn’t be a problem, I believe. BRING THE MINI D HERE, to the USA
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Jesse Fisher Jul 20th, 2007 Link
Please bring the MINI D to the US! I would DEFINITELY buy one, and would certainly pay extra for it.
The only other real diesel option currently is VW, and I’m not convinced of their reliability.
Bring it! We’re ready for it! The whole world saw the success of the “hype-brids.” We need a PRACTICAL option, and the Cooper-D is it!
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Phil C Jul 24th, 2007 Link
The general population could not afford this or any new car, therefore it would not cut the oil usage enough to be a good solution to our many problems. Oh sure some of us could, but those few are the exception the majority needs its cash to eat, to put a roof over their heads, not to mention medical priorities. What is needed is a law that outlaws the large high fuel sucking vehicles for the general public, period.
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NNYLG Aug 11th, 2007 Link
Yes. Am looking to get out of my mercedes lease, want to get into a small, diesel-powered vehicle.
Not familiar with pricing, it can’t cost that much more, can it?!
By eliminating petro fuels from my diet, thereby benefiting my city, state, nation and planet.
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Duane Aug 14th, 2007 Link
1) Yes, not only would I consider the Mini-D it is the ONLY new car I would consider (I currently have a 2003 MCS).
2) I don’t believe the premium should be charged. The reason they do is the economics of volume but the reality in the U.S. is this (I believe): less diesels are sold because of the premium, which is added to offset the lower volume, not the slightly higher cost of the engine, if any. Charging a price close to the gasoline version would encourage purchases. Oh, ok, yes I would pay the premium because I WANT ONE NOW! (For most light trucks the premium is about 12%, I think this is highway robbery so I feel anything over 5% is taking advantage of the conscious consumer.)
3) Benefit – cleaner environment; lower operating costs; longer life expectancy of engine; happier person.
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Axel Hernandez Aug 16th, 2007 Link
Having a 02 MCS with approx 220 BHP and about 2 grand invested and 90k on it. DEFENITELY yes, I always said we need them over here in Puerto Rico and the USA, I am currently talking to AutoGermana to buy the clubman diesel in the Dominican Republic and cross it over in the ferry. I would pay the premium though, what is there to do anyway. Specially now that I will be working away from my home about 90 miles away and I will be traveling a wholelot. Hell yeah I WANT ONE, BMW/MINI cut the BS and have it shipped to U.S. buyers
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Scott Aug 27th, 2007 Link
I’ve owned a Jetta TDI for three years and am certain that I won’t buy another Gas powered vehicle again. I am from Manitoba Canada, and the demand for Diesel powered vehicles is throught the roof. Like I’ve seen in the above posts, I think that a 1K$ premium would be acceptable. And I find Diesel to be convenient, more safe, and easier on the environment at 60mpg. I’d buy the wife one in a geartbeat if they appeared in NA (including Canada).
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David Sep 3rd, 2007 Link
Yes, I would by a Mini D, as long as the noise and vibration level was reasonable. I had a diesel Rabbit years ago…
I may get an S in the next few months, but if the D’s show up I’ll get that instead. Somehow there are 3 biodiesel vendors within 5 minutes of our house.
ReplyYes, I would by a Mini D, as long as the noise and vibration level was reasonable. I had a diesel Rabbit years ago…
I know what you are talking about. The MINI D has no more noise or vibration than the MC. Actually, at speed and while accelerating it sounds fantastic!
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Jake Sep 14th, 2007 Link
Yes! I want one! I’m shocked that no high-efficiency Mini is offered in the States…
Yes, but it’s worth it! Even at a few $k (tax breaks and HOV lane access).
See above.
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Tom M Sep 19th, 2007 Link
I would trade today if one was available. 3k-ish. I have a long commute and I like the idea of buying fewer petroleum products generally
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Dan Sep 19th, 2007 Link
I own a Beetle TDI currently and would seriously consider purchasing a diesel MINI. I would be willing to pay a premium, for sure, but it should be on par with what VW charges for it’s diesel, with a slight increase for BMW engineering.
Really the only additional benefit, since I already drive a diesel, is lower fuel costs because the MINI is lighter than the VW and also because the engine might be more efficient.
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Jon Sep 19th, 2007 Link
Still one of the most laughable things ever, California and the other nine each have a massive population of monster SUV’s pumping out huge volume of pollutants. Maybe if the governor of California and many other prominent public officials and politicians would give up their 10mpg battle wagons maybe their rules would actually hold some moral grounds.
I would buy a Mini diesel on the spot if it was offered. I am already looking at alternatives since its not being offered since my commute can cover 80+ miles a day. The new Mini comes closer to some of my needs but the diesel is spot on what I desire and need.
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Bob Greer Sep 20th, 2007 Link
When will the USA get serious about reducing energy consumption? Diesel engines are and always have been lower energy consumers than gas. Why do most trucks use diesel – to save energy and reduce costs. We need a serious program in this country to convert to diesel. This is a much better alternative than hybrid engines that burn ethanol made from corn and other food products, which will eventually drive up food costs. Moreover, refining oil into diesel fuel is a much lower cost process. Conversion to diesel over a period of time has the potential to reduce energy consumed by automobiles by 40 to 50 percent. The politicians in Washington need to get off their hindends and do something worthwhile for a change.
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Mark Sep 20th, 2007 Link
Yes I would buy a MINI D. I went from owning a 2002 Cooper S, to a 2005 Cooper S, to a 2006 Cooper with the JCW Sound Kit. I love getting a realistic 30+ miles to the gallon. The Diesel engines have tremendous torque at very low RPM’s. When most people think of diesel powered cars they think smelly and slow. I don’t believe that is the issue with the MINI Diesel. If it shows up here I will buy one. I would pay a small premium, but noting unrealistic (isn’t that up to the dealer anyway?) Bring it on!
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Canhow120 Sep 23rd, 2007 Link
I would like to add that if the Mini D were available in the US, I would certainly purchase one. I love the mini I currently have and the thought of a diesel model in my driveway is a real possibility.
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Pat Sep 26th, 2007 Link
If they brought the MINI Cooper D into the USA I would buy one in a flash! I switched to Diesel power in my pickup in 1998 and just purchased a new Cummins Turbo Diesel. Never go back to gas truck again! Particulate filters is all they need. I believe they will be here in a few years… gasoline is not going to get any cheaper!
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Chris Sep 27th, 2007 Link
I have been waiting for a diesel for a year as I thought they were suppose to be out this coming year. Wrong. I am wanting the 60 mpg., whether it is a toyota, VW, mini, honda, or ford diesel. Lets get them here. What are we waiting for. A Riot. Everybody stops buying gas cars through the end of the year!!!!
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Mike Sep 30th, 2007 Link
I would buy a MINI D in a heartbeat. We had a Cooper S, my wife loved the car, but the MPG was rather poor for a small car. We ended up with a Toyota Corolla that gets 38-42MPG. I would trade that car immediately for a MINI D. They are one of the most fun cars I have ever driven. Come on BMW, get with it!!!
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mary Oct 1st, 2007 Link
YES! I will buy the 2008 mini cooper D if it is sold in the US. In fact I would buy one this weekend if it were available. I’m not sure about the premium issue – probably no more than 2k – but if the gas mileage difference were 10-20mpg above, it would definitely be worth it. Bring them here – I hate that all the small, fuel efficient vehicles are sold in Europe and not the US.
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David Grosso Oct 9th, 2007 Link
I would purchase a Mini D right away in the US! And would be willing to pay extra to do so.
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Dave B Oct 17th, 2007 Link
Yes, I would buy the Mini D if available in the US. Just back from Italy where I drove a Ford Focus c-max CDI for a week. It was so efficient I hardly noticed the $4+ per gallon fuel costs. Came back all bound and determined to buy a diesel and park the Tahoe. Still looking.
Would pay the extra $2k or so for an oil burner.
Biggest benefits to me would be lower overall fuel costs and longer engine life/fewer repairs.
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Alden Miller Oct 17th, 2007 Link
Yes, I would love a MINI Diesel!
I paid about $5k more to get a diesel in my truck so I would expect to pay $3k to $4k more for one in a MINI.
If it got 60 mpg that would be easy to justify!
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Jerry Oct 23rd, 2007 Link
I will buy a MINI diesel the very day they became available in the US, no matter what gas prices are. I’d pay a premium, probably up to $4k; the higher MPG and the fact that diesel engines tend to last longer would be worth it I think. I have a long commute, so the gas mileage would make a big difference. Plus the option of using bio-diesel is appealing.
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Jack Oct 29th, 2007 Link
I have a diesel Jeep and a diesel truck, so yes I’d buy a diesel Mini as long as cost per mile is less than my gas Prius.
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Mike Shafer Nov 3rd, 2007 Link
There is a petition online already:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/minid/
ReplyMike – this post was up long before the petition. Thats why there’s no mention above.
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Big Jim Nov 7th, 2007 Link
I’ll order a Mini Cooper Diesel today if it were available. I’m seriously looking at bringing one down from Canada if it is not going to be available in the US.
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tom Nov 10th, 2007 Link
I have CASH IN HAND to buy a Diesel Mini Cooper! I love the feeling of torque from driving a diesel- I am totally addicted to diesels- And a Diesel Mini is my fantasy car!
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Philip Nov 11th, 2007 Link
yes! yes! yes! I want one! how can I get one?? who do we write, complain to, or mass mail?
philip jackson, ms.
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Rob Nov 11th, 2007 Link
For sure put me on the list.
1000-1500 premium for a diesel would be fair I suppose.
It would cut my commuting costs in half.
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Jason Nov 13th, 2007 Link
I want one!!!!How do we get them, who do we write, can we buy in canada?????
How can the US not see the difference betweeen emissions based on one gallon of diesel vs. unleaded?!?! And the difference in miles traveled per emissions released???
Diesel mini’s make me drool…
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bob Nov 15th, 2007 Link
I WANT ONE!!!!!
I have called mini here in seattle as well as in boston… and they CLAIM that there is NO interest for such a car here…
MORE LIES!!!!!!!!!
I drive an 11 year old passat that gets 50 mpg on bio.
i am sick of car companies and the lies they spout out.
i wish gas WOULD be $10 a gallon!
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Linda Nov 15th, 2007 Link
Yes, I would certainly buy a Cooper D! I would pay a premimum. I have a 100 mile RT daily commute. I drive a TDI Jetta and love the diesel fuel efficiency and engine power. This car will last forever. Bring the Cooper here to the states!
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Steve Cooper Nov 18th, 2007 Link
I would definitely pay $3000 for a diesel Mini option. I have owned diesel cars and pickup trucks since 1980 and enjoyed the generally reduced maintenance, increased torque, and greater fuel economy. As diesel market share increases it should become a no-cost engine option.
The biggest problem is when maintenance is necessary it is nearly impossible to find affordable quality mechanics. They all seem to migrate to the large truck shops that won’t service the smaller engines. With BMW’s influence they may be able to remedy this shortfall.
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koby Nov 19th, 2007 Link
1) yes 2) $5K 3) benefits: biodiesel, fuel efficiency, engine reliability
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koby Nov 19th, 2007 Link
1) yes 2) $4K-$5K premium for diesel (to be realistic about it) 3) benefits: biodiesel, fuel efficiency, engine reliability
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iza Nov 20th, 2007 Link
ABSOLUTELY. BRING IT TO NORTH AMERICA. Mini coopers are my favorite cars, but I only would buy diesel cars to convert them to run on VO or WVO. So this would be amazing if they were sold in the US and I would immediately plan to purchase one if they were available, hopefully if they were under $30,000.
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Kate Nov 21st, 2007 Link
Yes! Yes! I’d buy one in a minute– I’m agonizing over the idea of purchasing a new Mini, since it’s not available yet in diesel.
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Joe Cali Nov 21st, 2007 Link
Yes for all the reasons that every one has said yes for, including one that has not been mentioned. I lived through 2 gas shortages here in NY and not one effected Diesel. You passed the lines and got what you needed. You just had to have a big sign saying DIESEL, or you would be killed. The last thing that the goverment will rationed will be diesel. The country could not run without diesel. With my VW Rabbit I got in line with the 18 wheel big rigs. So you get a fun car to drive, fast enough, less maintance. Less expensive fuel. You will most likely be one of the only cars on the road in case of a shortage. In this day and age anything can happen, so you also get peace of mind. No spark plugs, etc. Oh and did I say, that Diesel engines will out last the life span of any gas engine. Joe Cali – Next Generation – USA I wrote the book on putting 914 / Type IV engines in the Classic Air Cooled VW bugs.
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Bob N Nov 22nd, 2007 Link
I’d love one — great miles, great performance. I’d have it in my driveway tomorrow!
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Lee Nov 23rd, 2007 Link
I own two diesel VWs. I have test driven two mini coopers in the last three weeks since seeing them at the Miami Auto show. What is stopping me you ask? No diesel. And, mini has no plans to import one to the U.S. To bad cause I really like the Mini.
My VWs avg 33 and 40 MPG and the min would be 50 -60? I’d have bought it already!
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Donnie James Nov 26th, 2007 Link
I have contacted mini several times at mini worldwide site, requesting help on importing a mini diesel.They of course said the us dealers did not have equipment necessary to service the car. I also checked with auto importers about the possibility of getting one.I was told the costs of doing this would be astronomical. This sucks that we cannot buy the car we want in this country especially when it is one of the most fuel efficient in the world.
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Debbie Nov 28th, 2007 Link
1.Yes- I’ve been waiting for it to happen and will run my jetta until it dies completely or Mini does its import. 2. Ford Trucks have it as about a 3500 dollar premium. The equivalent sounds fair to me, but realistically I’d pay up to 4500 more. 3. Mileage, environmental karma points… Diesel here in seattle is about $4/gallon, but we get kickbacks for biodiesel use at tax time.
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Chris Dec 4th, 2007 Link
I would love a diesel Mini. I would also like a third seat belt in the back. I have three young kids and it would be nice to haul everyone at once if need be. Please release this over here!
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Joel Davila Dec 14th, 2007 Link
I am switching to diesel in 2008, no questions asked! I currently drive a 6 cyl. Toyota Tacoma I need to pull my small fishing boat and a Honda CRV to get around town efficiently. For 2008, it seems, I’ll restricted to go after a Jetta TDI or an increadibly unaffordable Mercedes 320 Diesel. As far as the boat, the only option out there seems to be a very expensive Jeep Grand Cherokee diesel at a 35k plus price tag. Lets get real! We need more of these European diesel options and, for starters, the Mini D is a must. Now, who is it we all need to talk to? Whose behind is it we need to kiss?
Bring me the Mini D now! Where do I sign?
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Mark Dec 14th, 2007 Link
Yes, I would seriously purchase a diesel powered MINI. We switched to diesel with a VW TD, TDI and never went back.
I would expect a $1-2k premium over the standard Cooper S. Sadly, the resale value will probably be higher for used Mini Diesels (good for new car buyers, but not always for used car buyers). My VW Jetta TDI with 100hp and a very nice DSG transmission cost $32,000 CAD – I’d rather buy used next time.
The diesel torque is much more enjoyable around town. Significant fuel economy improvements over the gassy Cooper S.. we’re talking 2x driving distance per tank if the diesel only gets 44mpg. 50+ US MPG would be fantastic if possible. Turbo diesels are also often very tunable with just an engine computer remap. I went from 100hp to 150hp (and 230ft-lbs torque) in my VW Jetta TDI with just a computer chip upgrade!
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Nick Dec 14th, 2007 Link
Waiting, waiting and waiting to get a diesel. have a 2003 golf tdi and a 2000 jetta tdi. love them but MC would be nice to replace with. would pay a premium just to save money in the long run
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Thomas Beck Dec 14th, 2007 Link
I would buy a mini cooper diesel as quickly as I could. I have driven small 1.6 L turbodiesels in Europe and I have driven the gas mini cooper here and I can’t think of a nicer combo. I am holding off buying a gas version praying for the diesel to come.
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Greg Voss Dec 27th, 2007 Link
I’m looking at diesels now. I have old cars and I want a new alternative fuel vehicle. I want something small and reliable that is designed to last a long time. That’s diesel to me. And in the Mini Cooper is a great combination!
Besides this blog, how do we as the purchasing public get BMW to try it out. Are we forced to go to Canada or Mexico? Do they sell the Mini D in those countries?
Keep up the fight.
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Nona Babcock Dec 29th, 2007 Link
Yes! Yes! and Yes, I would purchase a diesel Mini. I currently own a 2005 VW diesel Passat (avg. about 36 mpg), and have owned several VW diesels over the years. Last summer on a cross-country 6000 mile trip we avg. 39.9 mpg. Bring the Mini to the US. Bet you couldn’t keep them in stock.
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Dave Dec 30th, 2007 Link
First: The UK gallon (imperial)is 160 oz. vs our 128. Therefore, UK estimates of 60+ mpg translate to 80% of that, or about 50 mpg (US)…Still prety damn good. A diesel, due to extremely high compression ratios, is necessarily has more robust construction. Unless you’re GM in the 1980’s. Therefore the premium. But you get what you pay for in spades in long life and durability.
I ABSOLUTELY would buy a mini diesel and pay a premium of up to a few (2 or so) thousand USD. ALso, a toyota hybrid may have an eight year warranty on batteries, but nonetheless WILL need battery replacement, and therefore the resale value suffer significantly….not true with diesel. In addition, a truly “green” approach using bidiesel is much less polluting than disposing of these batteries….where?… If you think styrofoam containers are bad, try throwing away a few hundred pounds of nickel metal hydride or even lithium ion batteries in your local landfill.
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Bill Jan 3rd, 2008 Link
I can say without a doubt that I will buy a mini diesel the second they come out. Small, fuel efficient, and well, I just love the looks. What’s not to love. And while the gas versions get pretty good mileage, it still doesn’t compete with the smaller hybrids. So at $100/barrel, I’m now shopping for something efficient. If I heard they’d be out next year, I’d wait. If I don’t hear anything by late spring and get a hybrid and then hear later, I have to admit I’d trade. After all, I don’t want to change those batteries either. So Mini, you’re in luck with this driver. But please hurry.
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b hall Jan 7th, 2008 Link
If I could get a diesel clubman into the US (I would convert to biodiesel), I would buy a fleet of 11 for our company the moment they were here. What is taking so long?
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Zach Jan 10th, 2008 Link
I would definitely buy a diesel mini. I wanted a mini more than a Jetta, but I bought a Jetta TDI specifically because it’s a diesel.
I would expect about the same premium as any other diesel. I paid an extra $3-4k for my car, IIRC.
The increased distance I can travel between tanks has already saved me a couple times when I didn’t stop to fuel up. The ability to run biodiesel (even though I can’t normally get it) has given me good feelings about my ability to continue driving once the mid-east blows up.
I’ve had my current TDI for 2 years now. I expect to have it for at least 2 more. I’d love to be considering a diesel powered mini to replace it.
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James Jan 12th, 2008 Link
YES I would buy a diesel. Period. I also want that auto-off at idle.
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BenD Jan 15th, 2008 Link
My VW Jetta TDI has 260,000k. I’m just waiting for the One D or Clubman D to come to Canada. It’s my next car if BMW gets their act together.
I would expect to pay about $3k more than their standard engine.
I drive great distances on the highway often. Even though diesel prices are more expensive the fuel savings are staggering for me at the end of the year.
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ChrisH Jan 23rd, 2008 Link
YES! YES! YES!
I would definitely like to see numbers on real road testing, first. If the MINI D gets the mileage that it’s boasting, I definitely would pay up to a $3K-4K premium to get the D in my driveway!
I currently have a 100 mile round trip commute and I think that fact alone speaks for itself! I don’t want to purchase a hybrid…yet… mainly because I believe battery technology hasn’t reached it’s peak.
Of course we really can’t do anything about the petrol lobbyists vying for congress to keep regs exactly like they are… So good luck to MINI on getting these little fuel savers across the border!
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Mike Moore Jan 23rd, 2008 Link
MotoringFile: I currently own a MINI, and I love the car. But I’m one of those tree-hugging liberals. I want to reduce my carbon footprint. For me, a MINI diesel (capable of running on biodiesel) is today’s best alternative. How can I buy one in the USA?
Mike Moore
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Darin Qualls Jan 31st, 2008 Link
Great looking car and the idea of getting 60 mpg excites me. Lets bring it to the USA.
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Jason Feb 4th, 2008 Link
I’m a 2002 Cooper S owner, and I’m looking to replace it in a year or so. I was hoping to find a more fuel efficient model, and was considering a TDI Rabbit (GTI was previous car), but they aren’t out yet. If Mini had a Diesel in the states, it would be my hands down choice. Skip the screwy batteries, and just get a Diesel, esp as the US is converting to low sulphur diesel. American’s are going to get over the aversion to diesel, eventually. They’re just slow learners.
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R. Freas Feb 5th, 2008 Link
I hope the message gets through to the Marketing and Sales Team at Mini to bring the new model of Diesel, the Cooper D, to the United States. We are the second largest market for them after the UK and many of us are very interested in fuel economy.
I’ve followed Mini’s development of their diesel line and have been waiting patiently to purchase one. Glad they’ve added improvements with the Brake Energy Regeneration, Auto Start-Stop Function, etc. If they don’t bring in the Cooper D, then I’ll be purchasing one of the new TDIs from VW when they arrive. I prefer the Mini, but may be forced to buy another brand. My next car will get over 50 mph or I’m hanging on to the 40mph gallon car that I already own.
Let’s hope the Mini marketing gurus come to their senses and reconsiders their decision.
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Jennie Feb 5th, 2008 Link
The Mini Cooper D (diesel) is about $2,000 more than teh Mini Cooper (gasoline) in teh U.K., where it is made (it is also about $2,000 less than the Mini Cooper S). I would be quite willing to pay a similar premium to get a diesel Mini here in the US. Unfortunately, not only does Mini have no plans to bring that model here, they also have no plans to export it to Canada or Mexico (no solution there). While the price of diesel does fluctuate significantly in this country, it averages only slightly more than gasoline per gallon. Per mile (based on Mini D mileage claims) it would save fuel $$. However, the real reason for purchasing it would be the combination of significantly lower carbon (and associated pollutant) emissions per mile, good safety ratings (I have a small child), and great looks (not to mention nostalgia of my youth in England where the majority of the population drove Minis).
ReplyThere is a chance that Canada will get the MINI D, but probably not a very big one.
And, it’s not the C02 that’s the problem with the -D, since it has about the lowest out of any car, it’s the NOx that’s the problem, especially in California and 8 other states.
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Kasey Feb 7th, 2008 Link
I would purchase a Diesel Mini in a heartbeat.
I would be willing to pay abt $4000 more for the diesel option
I drive approx 30K miles per year. A diesel would almost double miles per gallon fuel economy over my current VW Beetle (gas approx 30 or so miles per gallon)
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mh Feb 18th, 2008 Link
I would trade in my beloved BMW M3 for DIESEL Mini Cooper Clubman today. The first automaker that can deliver my a diesel or diesel-hybrid car that can take me to work and haul my family gets my money. I would pay as much as $5k premium.
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mh Feb 18th, 2008 Link
I would trade in my beloved BMW M3 for a DIESEL Mini Cooper Clubman today. The first automaker that can deliver me a diesel or diesel-hybrid car that can take me to work and haul my family gets my money. I would pay as much as $5k premium.
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Mark Tyson Feb 18th, 2008 Link
I’d buy one today if it were availalbe. I think 1-2k premium would be acceptible.
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David S. Feb 19th, 2008 Link
I would buy a diesel microcar in a heartbeat! If the Smart Diesel were over here, I’d have one. But they won’t import them. Even the 60 mpg unleaded Smartcars when they make it over here only get 40 mpg or so… no better than an old Subaru Justy! I don’t know how they detuned them, but it’s a crime. This is an opportunity for Mini to truly lead, in a market that is ripe for change. If they push green and fuel economy, and partner with BP to start supplying biodiesel, they could make a real difference. If they keep selling on power and performance, it’s the same old schtick in a different wrapper.
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Karl H. Feb 21st, 2008 Link
I would buy a diesel mini today if offered. Have already contacted BMW/Mini in two cities to see if they were selling or planning to sell in U.S. I commute 50 miles a day and the gas savings and carbon emissions appeal to me.
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Chris Knuff Feb 22nd, 2008 Link
1) Yes I would definately be interested
2) I would be willing to pay $1000-15000 extra
3)I like them because they offer better gas mileage (ease the reliance on Middleastern oil), more torque, larger wallet.
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Andrew Kovacs Feb 27th, 2008 Link
I would expect a diesel to cost more than a gasoline model but calling it a premium makes it sound like some kind of frill. I drive about 45,000 miles a year so I usually purchase 2 or 3 year old cars with low miles. I would purchase a new car with a diesel option that got 40 to 50 mpg at the first oportunity. All auto manfactures want to play it safe. A very large door of opporutnity is open to the first mfg to really have a look at this market. Fuel costs are up and going higher. Horse power is not the most important issue with what engine would I like in my ride.
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K-Ren B Mar 1st, 2008 Link
I would buy the Mini D in a hearbeat if it came to the U.S.! Bring it, bring it!
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Matthew Kolb Mar 2nd, 2008 Link
I am currently waiting for the 09 Rabbit TDI 2-door, but what I really want is a MINI!! Although the fuel millage is still great with the S, it can’t compete to diesel. I’m not even going to go into the benefits both economically and environmentally. I recently test drove a Rabbit and am unimpressed by the handling, coming from a Mazda Protege, which has the same exact go-cart handling as a Mini.
No need. I wanted a diesel ever since gas was $1.26 a gallon when I first started driving, just couldn’t afford one.
I would expect to pay $1400-$2000 premium is not a bad upgrade. You have to remember diesel engines require more $ to mfg.
You would save at very least $900 a year (for a round avg number comparing my current 2002 Mazda Progege to a TDI), which would pay for the upgrade in 2 years, not to mention the benifits of using bio-diesel, torque, etc. The reliability is unmatched, especially in VW, Audi, and BMW diesels. Think about it this wasy as for depreciation… A 98 VW Jetta (gasoline) would sell as a $2000 beater, while a 98 TDI would sell for around $7600. (quoted from a poster on a TDI comment)
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Jack Riddle Mar 6th, 2008 Link
Why not bring to light the reason we here in the US can’t have cleaner burning diesels while all of the rest of the world can? Is it called “Civil Suit”?
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Teagan Blackburn and Brent Baker Mar 21st, 2008 Link
My husband wants a diesel mini very badly. He is the CEO of a small biodiesel company and talks about the mini all the time. Please help him get one!
Thanks!
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david Mar 22nd, 2008 Link
I am waiting for a small diesel hatchback car and likely will be a rabbit diesel (assuming they are imported) but a mini diesel would be nice as well if available. Whoever brings the small diesels over will get my business and those car companies that don’t will lose a selling opportunity for a probable long time as I will be keeping this car for 8-10 years.
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john Mar 24th, 2008 Link
I have a 2007 Mercedes M-class diesel and it’s the best car I ever owned. For a big vehicle it gets 30 on the highway. I also want a mini. I would like to have a diesel but diesel fuel cost more than premium gas in the USA. This I have never been able to figure out. Diesel always use to be cheaper than gas but not now. Guess they dont want bio-diesel cars in this country.
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paul Mar 24th, 2008 Link
Yes I would buy this car! I would pay a few thousand more, I would hope not more than say the jump from the Cooper to the S version. I drive 100 miles a day and would love to get this kind of mileage. I have an 2002 S now.
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SPiRO Mar 25th, 2008 Link
ABSOLUTELY I would buy a Cooper D, and a Clubman D even more so.
I would pay whatever premium fees necessary.
It would benefit me because the company I am helping build in New York City is the first BIODIESEL MANUFACTURING COMPANY of it’s kind here in NYC, recycling waste cooking oil from restaurants into premium grade biodiesel fuel. Whether it voids the warranty or not, I would run this car on bio, 100% through the warmer months. I know at least a dozen people that would also buy the Cooper D or Clubman D.
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Anthony Mar 28th, 2008 Link
I would love to buy a diesel, especially a diesel that looks great, lots of room, good performance, and great fuel mileage. It’s a darned shame that US manufacturers cant come up with something. It’s also a darned shame that California (The land of Nuts & Fruits) can keep the rest of us normal people from having a car like the Cooper. A little dirty diesel sure beats a lot of stinking catalitic converted gas!
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Rob Rosales Mar 28th, 2008 Link
I would definitely buy one if the offer it in the extended version coming out. I will not buy a mini if they don’t offer it in the diesel. I currently drive a beetle tdi running biodiesel and I will not replace it with a non diesel vehicle.
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Felicia Mar 31st, 2008 Link
I won’t buy until its a Diesel. so it will be a VW Tiguan or Honda or Subar all of which are bringing Diesel
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ryan p Mar 31st, 2008 Link
very interested in a MCD. why are so many euro car companies holding back on diesels?
ReplyBe sure to check this post for more info as to the why we don’t get the D in the US
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Tony S Apr 11th, 2008 Link
Would purchase one in a heartbeat. Even considering shipping one here from Europe. I now drive a 2003 Cooper that I love, but want an alternative fuel source vehicle in a bad way and would consider going to a VW.
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tom Apr 16th, 2008 Link
I had golf and jetta’s, 85/86’s for 15yrs and now a 85 merc300D.
I’d by a mini, lupo, polo etc. with out a second thought…I’d buy two…….
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Scott Apr 22nd, 2008 Link
yes I would seriously consider purchasing a diesel mini,and pay a reasonable premium,just for the benefit of the mileage alone.
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Kevin E. Apr 26th, 2008 Link
Would you seriously purchase a diesel powered MINI? Yes What would you expect to pay as a premium for the Cooper D over the standard Cooper? $1500 – 2000+ How would driving a diesel benefit you? I would be able to consume less fuel and have a better engine than a gasoline powered one.
When I bought my 2005 Mini Cooper S I had no idea there was also a Deisel version. If this was available in the US I would have jumped on it. Please bring this to the US so I can sell mine current Cooper and get a Cooper D
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Jessica SD Apr 26th, 2008 Link
I would love for a mini diesel to be available and would pay up to $28K for a new one. I think they would be very popular here in southern california, what’s the hold up? at 60mpg your only other option would be a motorcycle or scooter.
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Ben Apr 26th, 2008 Link
without question I would by that car, I have always loved Minis and I don’t deal with anything but diesels. If it was on the market I would buy one as soon as it came in yes diesel is more expensive than gas at the moment but compared to the milage you would get in the same car that runs on gas, your overall price is the same+ if there is a turbo in it, and some modifications you can still perform just as well as a gas mini
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Marty Apr 30th, 2008 Link
Would you seriously purchase a diesel powered MINI? YES! If your answer is no, would $5+ a gallon change your mind? Yes! What would you expect to pay as a premium for the Cooper D over the standard Cooper? Yes! How would driving a diesel benefit you? I drive no less the 80miles a day, with gas on the rise, and an mpg of 65 mpg on the Mini D. It would be worth it.
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George May 5th, 2008 Link
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jennie May 6th, 2008 Link
Heck yes! Mini Diesel is my dream car. At least until Tesla Motors finally comes out with an electric sedan.
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Axel Hernandez May 11th, 2008 Link
I spoke to the Mini Advisor here in Puerto Rico and he has assured me the mini diesel will be available in 09 in the clubman model only and I WANT ONE!!!!
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Axel Hernandez May 11th, 2008 Link
Would you seriously purchase a diesel powered MINI? YES I would If your answer is no, would $5+ a gallon change your mind? I am going to buy it anyway What would you expect to pay as a premium for the Cooper D over the standard Cooper? Premium should not be more than what they pay in Europe, guys dont be STUPID to fall for this trap of MARKET VALUE!!! How would driving a diesel benefit you? A whole lot it would lower my cost consumption
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Ywchung May 13th, 2008 Link
Yes for all questions. Considering that I’m already eying the VW diesels, I would love to be distracted by a Mini D and buy that instead!
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Ardena May 15th, 2008 Link
1.YES! I’ve been looking towards a diesel for converting to biodiesel.
I don’t believe that there should be a premium attached to puchasing a diesel. That’s ridiculous. If they can’t gouge us at the pumps they want to gouge us otherwise.
Seriously wanting to convert to biodiesel and to lower my carbon footprint on this planet, AND SAVE MONEY AT THE GAS PUMP!
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Cristina May 16th, 2008 Link
I hope MINI will bring this to the US for a reasonable price. A premium is fine to cover extra manufacturing and R&D costs.
Anything that can beat the Prius AND be stylish is fine with me!
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jeff May 19th, 2008 Link
I have wanted the new MINI since it first came out, but I have been holding out for the diesel. I desperately want this car! It needs to happen immediately. This is supposed to be the greatest country in the world, that will not be possible until we have our MINI D! Rise up people! Demand what we deserve! MINI D! MINI D!
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sarah May 21st, 2008 Link
Hi all. I live in the UK and I have the mini cooper D and yes it is an awesome little beast. It handles beautifully and the fuel economy is great. I regularly achieve 78+ mpg on a ‘run’ and usually 60+ mpg around town.
If you get a chance to get them in the states, you won’t be disappointed
sarah
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How May 21st, 2008 Link
I would buy a Clubman Diesel in a heartbeat. Our family is looking to expand in the next couple of years. I’ve wanted a mini since 2004 (when they were overpriced thanks to scarcity) but ended up with a PT Cruiser that only gets 23MPG for me on average.
$1000-$2000 premium is OK.
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Terry May 22nd, 2008 Link
Yes I would definitely purchase a Mini diesel. $1500 is a reasonable premium considering an average driver driving 15k miles per year would use 250 gallons diesel(@60mpg)vs 428 gallons unleaded(@35mpg). Even in California where diesel is more expensive than unleaded I figure you will save over $500/year. The savings is greater if you do a lot of freeway driving and keep your speed under 65mph(where diesels are most efficient). The ultimate car would be a diesel hybrid that gets great fuel economy in the city and freeway. I wonder how long we’ll have to wait for that!
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Shortbus Jun 4th, 2008 Link
I would go to the dealership tomorrow if they decided to bring this over here, especially in the Clubman. $1000-$1500 seems a reasonable premium. Benefits would be less environmental impact, ability to run biodiesel/WVO and thus less dependence on foreign oil.
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Thomas Knapp Sr. Jun 6th, 2008 Link
I would be dropping off my down payment today if they would bring the diesel to the US. I read about the regenerative glass battery they are working on and have loved the Mini since it came over. I only have room for two horses in the barn and my current ride is an 06 STI US spec. I need and want that high milage sidekick. A MiniD would be the best I could imagine. It would get my eyes off that hybrid Toy.
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Rick Jun 8th, 2008 Link
I want a ‘D’ mini bad but lets not encourage Mini to charge a ‘premium’ price for it. They will figure that on their own.
If gas goes up and the mini ‘D’ is at a premium price, those 2 combinations might not make it worth it.
What is the price in USD for a mini ‘D’ in Germany or wherever they currently are sold>?
Rick in Oregon/USA
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j Zea Jun 10th, 2008 Link
I am considering changing my leased Pathfinder for a MINI COOPER S late in summer ‘08. But if the Mini Cooper D would be available, I would go for it immediatelly!
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Lance M Jun 12th, 2008 Link
Shoot, I’ve been honestly thinking about trying to build one myself. I’m betting the one they have put together would be a little more refined than the one I’d fabricate, so please Mr. Mini Cooper, please save me from my own stupidity and make one of those dudes available in the US. If the product would have had weak sales 8 months ago, that’s certainly changed with $4/gal. Sign me up. As for a premiun price tag, I imagine the fluffed up price would make for 100+% profit, but hey, I’d fork it over for an economical, fun to drive sex-a-machine. Where do I sign?
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Carrie Jun 14th, 2008 Link
I would totally buy a mini diesel – I’ve been looking at Mini’s for a few years..just can’t seem to give up my jeep wrangler just yet, but the gas prices are pushing me in that direction (but I don’t have payments on it.. so makes it easier).
I just talked to my MINI dealer in MA this month – he told me that there WILL be a MINI COOPER DIESEL in 2 years in the USA… sooo.. I might hold out for that.
I want one now though… not 2 years from now!!!
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Dave Jun 26th, 2008 Link
I’ve driven diesels (VW) for the last 25 years and consider myself kind of a diesel biggot. I just bought a mini (it arrived last week) and am really enjoying it but if Mini came out with a diesel tomorrow I would “trade up” tomorrow.
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Edwyn Jun 30th, 2008 Link
I aim to buy a Mini Clubman diesel with manual trans. the moment they’re imported.
As for premium price, I’ve always understood that a diesel engine costs more because the motors were built heavier i.e. more mass/more steel/more cost.
I once owned a Mercedes 240D with 4 speed manual and I came to love everything about the performance of a diesel. I’ve always wanted another diesel but all the cars that have diesel motors up to now have been so expensive that it was a rich man’s game. Hopefully BMW will make the new Mini diesel affordable.
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Thomas Knapp Sr. Jul 1st, 2008 Link
I would buy a deisel Mini right away but they better hurry. I will have decided and purchased another car to drive when my STI is resting. They better hurry because the next gen Prius and many others are enroute and looking good. First come first in my garage (before Christmas 2008). Tom Knapp
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Ray Jul 1st, 2008 Link
I’m ready to leaave deposit now. I am going to buy diesel and would be willing to pay for import.
Would expect to pay for diesel upgrde and am willing to do so.
Diesel engine is far superior to gas engine in both efficency and longevity, and will be ny next purchase because I refuse to by another gas engine car.
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Jon Jul 1st, 2008 Link
I have a 1998 SLK230 that get 30MPG Hwy. And has been the best car for none repair I have ever owned and I’ve owned over 25 cars. But for 60Plus MPG I could see taking the jump. I still can’t get why I can get 30 HWY and a car the size of a shoe boxes gets only 33 and everyone thinks they are getting great milage. I think if you put a little thought into it you could come up with a interesting story. But a car that get 60 plus will be the one that sinks all the other car models.
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DJ Jul 7th, 2008 Link
If the diesel were offered in the US I would buy one in a heartbeat. I would convert it to SVO. Lets get this car over here.
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Mike Jul 9th, 2008 Link
I’ve been driving a version of the VW TDI (Jetta Sedan in 98′ and an 05′ Jetta Wagon TDI now) since 1998 and have searched periodically for news of a Mini D coming to the US. I even queried Volvo as to when, or if, they would import their excellent diesel engines as an option. The shortened response from Volvo was “we don’t plan on it”.
The KBB value of my used Jetta Wagon TDI is valued a stunning 27% premium over the Jetta Wagon gas counterpart, so the moderate premium paid when new is well worth the price considering this significant increase in percieved re-sale value.
Since diesel fuel in the US is quickly becoming standardized with the European fuel, there shouldn’t be any mechanical or EPA difficulties for automakers to overcome, to import more of their Diesel powered vehicles into the US market.
As the sulphur content in US diesel fuel WAS excessive for use in the more refined European engines, that mechanical blockade seems to be rapidly lifting.
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Jayne Jul 9th, 2008 Link
I’m desparately trying to get the mini cooper D and I’m very frustrated that it’s not available in the US. I would be ready to order one now. Keep me posted. I’m in the market for a new car and can’t wait much longer.
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Mark P Jul 25th, 2008 Link
I’ve been driving VW diesels since the 80s and would definitely consider getting a MiniD. Style, performance AND economy = an unbeatable combination. Get’em here!
MAP
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dan Jul 25th, 2008 Link
Why is it that Europe gets all the diesel choices and us Americans dont? We got the ultra-low sulfur fuel now. Take any diesel car & put a particulate filter on the exhaust and it’s good. As for California, use urea injection if you have to for NOX emissions. Living in Michigan, i have not to worry abou that. Id take a Mini Diesel & a VW Jetta and run them on biodiesel & GTL fuel.
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Eldo Nixon Aug 2nd, 2008 Link
I would submit my deposit to buy a clubman diesel today. Even if diesel is more expensive thant gas.
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Joe the Lion Aug 12th, 2008 Link
You bet your boots I’d seriously consider a diesel mini! Yes, I’d pay a reasonable premium for one, maybe 1-1.5 thousand $ extra. And even if diesel/petrol became less expensive I’d do so to simply USE LESS. I consider it my patriotic duty to use as little fossil fuel as possible because most – almost all – of the money we spend on oil leaves the United States. That doesn’t do much good for the U.S. economy. Also, let’s face it, there’s only so much petrol to go around and more countries, like China and India, are developing into heavy users. Hopefully they won’t copy the consumption habits of developed countries (doubt it). But if so, what the hell, let China pay for building Dubai for a change!
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dieselnuter Sep 6th, 2008 Link
I would definetly buy one as long as the premium over the gas Cooper is less than $2,000.00;
I am nuts about diesesl and currently have a 1999 Dodge Ram with the Cummins engine (28 mpg on the highway) and a 1980 Mercedes 300SD in mint shape that gets over 35 mgp on the highway.
I think they should call the Mini diesel “Cooper S D”, meaning a cooper S with a diesel engine.
Good work you guys!
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Fred Sep 9th, 2008 Link
I would buy a Mini Cooper D as long as the diesel premium was reasonable and could be recouped within 60,0000 miles. Always been a fan of diesel even before turbocharging and direct injection made them popular. Paying less at the pump & doing something better for the environment whats not to love.
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Cooper Sep 16th, 2008 Link
I would buy a MINI D right now…wil probably delay purchase of a gas powered one until the D comes to the US…or maybe import one from UK for a “true” Cooper feel.
Should diesel cost more?
Diesel mileage is better for the environment…and is could be suited for biodiesl.
Please make it so…
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David Moore Sep 17th, 2008 Link
I would absolutely jump on the waiting list for the cooper D to replace my 2005 Mini.
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Michael Sep 17th, 2008 Link
Yes, I would love to buy one. I personal built a VW Diesel power Suzuki Samurai just to get better mileage in something that I actually wanted to drive (not an silly looking egg shaped shybrid car). If Cooper built if for me you can bet I would get one and I know many others out here in the US that would love to own a fun, performance built coupe with a diesel motor. So when are we getting it already?
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mikey5 Oct 26th, 2008 Link
I,m fairly excited with the MINI D as for all the same reason previously posted BUT Subaru allwheel drive diesel being released, also very good M.P.G. will be a serious concideration maybe U.S. 2010
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Desi B. Nov 29th, 2008 Link
Would you seriously purchase a diesel powered MINI? If your answer is no, would $5+ a gallon change your mind? What would you expect to pay as a premium for the Cooper D over the standard Cooper? How would driving a diesel benefit you?
