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	<title>Comments on: Details on MINI&#8217;s R56 JCW Challenge Racer</title>
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		<title>By: MotoringFile &#187; Archive &#187; MINI&#8217;s New JCW Challenge Race Car</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/06/27/details-on-minis-2008-jcw-challange-race-car/comment-page-1/#comment-150136</link>
		<dc:creator>MotoringFile &#187; Archive &#187; MINI&#8217;s New JCW Challenge Race Car</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] [ Details on MINI&#8217;s 2008 JCW Challenge Race Car ] [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Gabe</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/06/27/details-on-minis-2008-jcw-challange-race-car/comment-page-1/#comment-134401</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;Now, the &quot;some time to come&quot; mentioned by Dr. Siegler could of course end as soon as the stage 2 car is released, but I fail to see how his statement supports the latter assessment. IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d say it harms it, if anythingÃ¢â‚¬Â¦&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;He&#039;s basically saying that the BHP figure won&#039;t be eclipsed until this new car comes out.&lt;/p&gt;
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  <p>Now, the &#8220;some time to come&#8221; mentioned by Dr. Siegler could of course end as soon as the stage 2 car is released, but I fail to see how his statement supports the latter assessment. IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d say it harms it, if anythingÃ¢â‚¬Â¦</p>
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<p>He&#8217;s basically saying that the BHP figure won&#8217;t be eclipsed until this new car comes out.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Eelke</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/06/27/details-on-minis-2008-jcw-challange-race-car/comment-page-1/#comment-134321</link>
		<dc:creator>Eelke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 07:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Also in the interview Dr. Segler mentioned that the JCW GP will be the highest horsepower road legal MINI (not necessarily the fastest) for some time to come.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If this is true, the following doesn&#039;t make much sense to me:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;From these two statements we can infer a couple things. First off, yes MINI is indeed working on a &quot;stage II&quot; JCW vehicle for launch later in the R56 product cycle. Something faster than the current dealer installed kit and &lt;b&gt;something with more power than the JCW GP.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Now, the &quot;some time to come&quot; mentioned by Dr. Siegler could of course end as soon as the stage 2 car is released, but I fail to see how his statement &lt;i&gt;supports&lt;/i&gt; the latter assessment. I&#039;d say it &lt;i&gt;harms&lt;/i&gt; it, if anything...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>Also in the interview Dr. Segler mentioned that the JCW GP will be the highest horsepower road legal MINI (not necessarily the fastest) for some time to come.</blockquote>

<p>If this is true, the following doesn&#8217;t make much sense to me:</p>

<blockquote>From these two statements we can infer a couple things. First off, yes MINI is indeed working on a &#8220;stage II&#8221; JCW vehicle for launch later in the R56 product cycle. Something faster than the current dealer installed kit and <b>something with more power than the JCW GP.</b></blockquote>

<p>Now, the &#8220;some time to come&#8221; mentioned by Dr. Siegler could of course end as soon as the stage 2 car is released, but I fail to see how his statement <i>supports</i> the latter assessment. I&#8217;d say it <i>harms</i> it, if anything&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Roccorocket</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/06/27/details-on-minis-2008-jcw-challange-race-car/comment-page-1/#comment-134267</link>
		<dc:creator>Roccorocket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 02:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;While the stage 2 JCW is exciting, the &quot;racer&quot; holds no interest to me. Sounds like it will be kinda gaudy looking vs. a more subtle menace of a JCW badge or two on an MCS. IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢m even &quot;iffy&quot; on ordering the current JCW aero kit&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The &quot;Racer&quot; is intended for racing not car shows or street.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>While the stage 2 JCW is exciting, the &#8220;racer&#8221; holds no interest to me. Sounds like it will be kinda gaudy looking vs. a more subtle menace of a JCW badge or two on an MCS. IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢m even &#8220;iffy&#8221; on ordering the current JCW aero kit</blockquote>

<p>The &#8220;Racer&#8221; is intended for racing not car shows or street.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: robble</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/06/27/details-on-minis-2008-jcw-challange-race-car/comment-page-1/#comment-134262</link>
		<dc:creator>robble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 02:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; I canÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t see another Monte Carlo Rally win on the horizon.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m pretty sure that has been uttered 3 times before...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote> I canÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t see another Monte Carlo Rally win on the horizon.</blockquote>

<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure that has been uttered 3 times before&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: MINI Challenge 2008 - Page 2 - MINI2</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/06/27/details-on-minis-2008-jcw-challange-race-car/comment-page-1/#comment-134229</link>
		<dc:creator>MINI Challenge 2008 - Page 2 - MINI2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 00:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] MotoringFile Â» Archive Â» Details on MINI&#8217;s R56 JCW Challange Racer  Could be the cars mentioned in this link. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] MotoringFile Â» Archive Â» Details on MINI&#8217;s R56 JCW Challange Racer  Could be the cars mentioned in this link. [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/06/27/details-on-minis-2008-jcw-challange-race-car/comment-page-1/#comment-134156</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 21:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Gabe.  I wonder if they might be named the JCW Challenge Series MINIs if/when they are released in the US.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Gabe.  I wonder if they might be named the JCW Challenge Series MINIs if/when they are released in the US.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: saakey</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/06/27/details-on-minis-2008-jcw-challange-race-car/comment-page-1/#comment-134146</link>
		<dc:creator>saakey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 21:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Grrrrrr... All i can say is I&#039;ll thoroughly disappointed if they do not bring it to the US... I know I&#039;d buy one!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grrrrrr&#8230; All i can say is I&#8217;ll thoroughly disappointed if they do not bring it to the US&#8230; I know I&#8217;d buy one!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Greg W</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/06/27/details-on-minis-2008-jcw-challange-race-car/comment-page-1/#comment-134141</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 20:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;At US$45000 this is cheap. The New Zealand MINI Challenge cars cost around US$52500 for the 2006/07 season. 
They can&#039;t have air bags in these race cars as there is a JCW racing seat and racing steering wheel. 
They are basically S models with JCW kits on them. No further mods are allowed.
This makes the cars only competitive against themselves. As a comparison, at the Pukekohe Race Circuit, these cars were lapping slower than the fastest old Classic Mini 1380cc racing car.
If MINI wants to be competitive against other Japanese and European cars, they will have to come up with something really competitive for open and mixed class racing. I can&#039;t see another Monte Carlo Rally win on the horizon.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At US$45000 this is cheap. The New Zealand MINI Challenge cars cost around US$52500 for the 2006/07 season. 
They can&#8217;t have air bags in these race cars as there is a JCW racing seat and racing steering wheel. 
They are basically S models with JCW kits on them. No further mods are allowed.
This makes the cars only competitive against themselves. As a comparison, at the Pukekohe Race Circuit, these cars were lapping slower than the fastest old Classic Mini 1380cc racing car.
If MINI wants to be competitive against other Japanese and European cars, they will have to come up with something really competitive for open and mixed class racing. I can&#8217;t see another Monte Carlo Rally win on the horizon.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Gabe</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/06/27/details-on-minis-2008-jcw-challange-race-car/comment-page-1/#comment-134137</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 20:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Gabe: As a 2009 JCW MINI are you saying that in the US it would be available to order in the Sept.- Nov. timeframe?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Unfortunately I&#039;m not able to say anything else that isn&#039;t in the article above. Will the race car be sold in the US? I don&#039;t know. When will the street car (based on the race car) be available? I don&#039;t know. Sorry.&lt;/p&gt;
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  <p>Gabe: As a 2009 JCW MINI are you saying that in the US it would be available to order in the Sept.- Nov. timeframe?</p>
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<p>Unfortunately I&#8217;m not able to say anything else that isn&#8217;t in the article above. Will the race car be sold in the US? I don&#8217;t know. When will the street car (based on the race car) be available? I don&#8217;t know. Sorry.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/06/27/details-on-minis-2008-jcw-challange-race-car/comment-page-1/#comment-134136</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 20:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To clariy my question above I meant Sept - Nov 2008.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To clariy my question above I meant Sept &#8211; Nov 2008.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/06/27/details-on-minis-2008-jcw-challange-race-car/comment-page-1/#comment-134132</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 20:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Gabe:  As a 2009 JCW MINI are you saying that in the US it would be available to order in the Sept.- Nov. timeframe?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gabe:  As a 2009 JCW MINI are you saying that in the US it would be available to order in the Sept.- Nov. timeframe?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/06/27/details-on-minis-2008-jcw-challange-race-car/comment-page-1/#comment-134130</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 20:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yup, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cams.com.au/content.asp?PageID=Article&amp;ObjectID=891&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the Australian 2008 MINI Challenge&lt;/a&gt; has just been announced. Can&#039;t wait.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, <a href="http://www.cams.com.au/content.asp?PageID=Article&amp;ObjectID=891" rel="nofollow">the Australian 2008 MINI Challenge</a> has just been announced. Can&#8217;t wait.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Gabe</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/06/27/details-on-minis-2008-jcw-challange-race-car/comment-page-1/#comment-134114</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Do the MINI Challenge cars have airbags and such?  You say that this will be the most horse power in a street legal MINI but if it does not have all the safety bells and whistles how can it be sold in the USA as a street legal car?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It does not have any airbags and thus has no chance of ever being street legal in the US. However that doesn&#039;t mean it still can&#039;t be sold.&lt;/p&gt;
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  <p>Do the MINI Challenge cars have airbags and such?  You say that this will be the most horse power in a street legal MINI but if it does not have all the safety bells and whistles how can it be sold in the USA as a street legal car?</p>
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<p>It does not have any airbags and thus has no chance of ever being street legal in the US. However that doesn&#8217;t mean it still can&#8217;t be sold.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Chester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here is a question...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Do the MINI Challenge cars have airbags and such?  You say that this will be the most horse power in a street legal MINI but if it does not have all the safety bells and whistles how can it be sold in the USA as a street legal car?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a question&#8230;</p>

<p>Do the MINI Challenge cars have airbags and such?  You say that this will be the most horse power in a street legal MINI but if it does not have all the safety bells and whistles how can it be sold in the USA as a street legal car?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: pbraun</title>
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		<dc:creator>pbraun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, hmmmm, so does that mean the MINI Challenge might be a possibility in the USA and CANADA?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, hmmmm, so does that mean the MINI Challenge might be a possibility in the USA and CANADA?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: gokartride</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/06/27/details-on-minis-2008-jcw-challange-race-car/comment-page-1/#comment-134095</link>
		<dc:creator>gokartride</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 18:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Very cool for folks longing to participate in the MINI Challenge, and very cool for those who want to drive a full-race MINI!!!!  I suggest those involved in designing MINI graphics brace themselves!!!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool for folks longing to participate in the MINI Challenge, and very cool for those who want to drive a full-race MINI!!!!  I suggest those involved in designing MINI graphics brace themselves!!!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: robble</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/06/27/details-on-minis-2008-jcw-challange-race-car/comment-page-1/#comment-134054</link>
		<dc:creator>robble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nice, my 07 is on a 2 year lease.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice, my 07 is on a 2 year lease.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Nigel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;50th anniversary factory JCW MCS. That is the one to go after in &#039;09....&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>50th anniversary factory JCW MCS. That is the one to go after in &#8217;09&#8230;.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: zack</title>
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		<dc:creator>zack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;thanks gabe.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;i&#039;ll second (or third or fourth) waiting for &#039;09 per previous comments:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;-to get my hands on the high HP version&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;-and hopefully better looks than the current r56 jcw aero package (front bumper is cool, back bumper is hideous)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks gabe.</p>

<p>i&#8217;ll second (or third or fourth) waiting for &#8217;09 per previous comments:</p>

<p>-to get my hands on the high HP version</p>

<p>-and hopefully better looks than the current r56 jcw aero package (front bumper is cool, back bumper is hideous)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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