Comments on: MINI/Mercedes Partnership Rumor Quashed

By: Bill Lawrence

Bill Lawrence — Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:49:36 +0000

Good,

I hate Mercedes

Their cars are overpriced and unreliable, yet the company who makes them is too arrogant to admit it.

After the screwing they did to Chrysler, thank God BMW is not going to work with them.

By: Vanwall

Vanwall — Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:31:05 +0000

Was that a little bit of a non-denial denial there at the end? The specific question was regarding the ‘A’ series, not all of the models. Hmmm.

By: gmini

gmini — Mon, 09 Jul 2007 13:32:31 +0000

The agreement would hae produced a doomed four-wheeled tritec indeed. Good thing the rumour was quashed. I lost valuable sleep.

I look forward to more "squishy" hearsy. ;)

By: GregW

GregW — Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:12:56 +0000

Thank goodness that idea has been quashed. BMW will be making more profit on new MINI than BMW/Rover made on old Mini if in fact it made anything at all. Yet the old car was made for 42 years. The BMW MINI is a quote “Premium small car” unlike old classic Mini which was designed and made for the masses as an affordable car for everyone.

By: Timothy

Timothy — Mon, 09 Jul 2007 09:53:42 +0000

Remember that BMW struck its Tritec partnership with Chrysler just before arch-rival Daimler-Benz bought out Chrysler. The Tritec was a good partnership for BMW (MINI), as it turned out. If Chrysler pre-acquisition was a good partner, is Chrysler post-spinoff a good partner again in some future project?

One significant problem BMW faces with the MINI right now is that most of the car is tied to the U.K. pound. Both the car itself and the engine are assembled in the U.K. That's unfortunate economically, because in just 5 years the pound has gone from under 1.6 to the dollar to just over 2, more than 25% up. Same thing only more against the yen: from just over 180 yen per pound to now over 248. Those are the two big export markets for MINI. For reference comparison, the base price of the 2002 MINI Cooper, including destination charge, was US$16,850. For the 2007 MINI Cooper it's US$18,700. That's only an 11% increase in price in 5 years, so MINI is getting many fewer U.K. pounds from every sale in the U.S. And it's a double impact because the 2002 had a Brazilian engine (the Tritec) rather than a U.K.-assembled engine. I realize MINI is trying to make up for the currency difference in other ways, especially by hiking the price of options and encouraging customers (somewhat successfully) to buy more options. Also, supposedly MINI has reduced its build costs somewhat (in U.K. pounds terms). But I'd guess that these effects are not full adjustment, and there's simple inflation to worry about, too.

I don't want to sound like MINI marketing, but for a U.K.-built car the MINI is quite the U.S. dollar deal right now.

Is there a role to play for Chrysler in helping to solve this currency problem?

By: M. Dillon

M. Dillon — Mon, 09 Jul 2007 09:23:01 +0000

First and foremost,let me just state simply,"thank God!"

Second,for the record,I'm still for BMW hooking up with FIAT(in regards to the MINI/FIAT 500.

Finally,let me just state again,"thank God!"

By: msh441

msh441 — Mon, 09 Jul 2007 08:39:23 +0000

Well that’s that. Can’t say it was a huge suprise, though. I could have swallowed the purchase of Volvo, or some cooperation with that company to share tech and build small engines and components (as hinted a while back)… but Mecedes just seemed like too much of a stretch. Particularly after BMW seemed to make such an effort to sever the Chrysler Tritec connection. Rumors and speculation does keep life interesting, though.