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	<title>Comments on: MINI&#8217;s 2008 Fuel Saving Technology Not Coming to US Market</title>
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		<title>By: hardy</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/07/18/minis-2008-fuel-saving-technology-not-coming-to-us-market/comment-page-2/#comment-177572</link>
		<dc:creator>hardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think Rob you are probably right..I for one am a current mini owner but want even better economy that europeans enjoy already and would love the 2008 D with stop start and would pay for it, and mad that I cant even get half that equation. I am perplexed by people who are afraid of the stop start on this board and others.  It quite clearly states in mini press release literature for euro spec that the on/off will not engage when the engine is cold, or it is really hot outside for the A/C etc...you can also read about reviews that cite no delay in response (why do people think it will be like cranking your engine over a few times in the morning?It&#039;s not the same thing as a &quot;regular start&quot;)...and if you are THAT wary of it you can turn it off.  And its not like its some obscure option...it is STANDARD for all non US 2008 models.  I think they know what they are doing.  Currency pressure certainly, but also marketing BS at the helm.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Rob you are probably right..I for one am a current mini owner but want even better economy that europeans enjoy already and would love the 2008 D with stop start and would pay for it, and mad that I cant even get half that equation. I am perplexed by people who are afraid of the stop start on this board and others.  It quite clearly states in mini press release literature for euro spec that the on/off will not engage when the engine is cold, or it is really hot outside for the A/C etc&#8230;you can also read about reviews that cite no delay in response (why do people think it will be like cranking your engine over a few times in the morning?It&#8217;s not the same thing as a &#8220;regular start&#8221;)&#8230;and if you are THAT wary of it you can turn it off.  And its not like its some obscure option&#8230;it is STANDARD for all non US 2008 models.  I think they know what they are doing.  Currency pressure certainly, but also marketing BS at the helm.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 05:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The decision to leave these fuel saving features out of US bound MINIs must be based on economic considerations.  If the technology is good enough for the European market, then it should be good enough for any market.  I think the MINI is faced with a falling dollar that is squeezing profitabilty of its US operations and quite possibly forcing it to raise prices in the US.  Addtional features would require raising the price of the car and thus cut into sales.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am a potential first -time MINI buyer who places a very high priority on fuel efficiency for environmental reasons.  Of course, I also want the speed and fun that a MINI can offer.  I am disappointed that I will not have the opportunity to purchase a car with the latest fuel saving technology, but I can understand the reason why.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The decision to leave these fuel saving features out of US bound MINIs must be based on economic considerations.  If the technology is good enough for the European market, then it should be good enough for any market.  I think the MINI is faced with a falling dollar that is squeezing profitabilty of its US operations and quite possibly forcing it to raise prices in the US.  Addtional features would require raising the price of the car and thus cut into sales.</p>

<p>I am a potential first -time MINI buyer who places a very high priority on fuel efficiency for environmental reasons.  Of course, I also want the speed and fun that a MINI can offer.  I am disappointed that I will not have the opportunity to purchase a car with the latest fuel saving technology, but I can understand the reason why.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/07/18/minis-2008-fuel-saving-technology-not-coming-to-us-market/comment-page-2/#comment-143947</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 00:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have an &#039;03 Cooper, which I enjoy very much. But I &lt;em&gt;was&lt;/em&gt; looking forward to the &#039;08 models, maybe a Clubman, or maybe another Cooper. As a response to the disapointing news from MINI, yesterday I Test Drove a Mazda and looked at a Saturn.
IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢m a bit put out.
Fuel economy is important to me and to my country (America) thatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s one of the reasons I like the MINI - Fuel Economy!
Remember; Lets Sip.  Billboards touting; Big Cars - Gas station at next exit?
I can (sort of) understand that BMW, can&#039;t or wont, make their diesel run clean enough for US EPA standards because its either to costly or not worth the effort (too costly). But I&#039;ve yet to meet anyone who didnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t breathe the same air as I do. As the Jet Stream brings ChinaÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s pollution to AmericaÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s west coast, our pollution is taken to Europe, and so on. Think about that.
Ok I canÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t get a MINI D, but not to worry, MINIÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ll make a higher milage car. So youÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re the new MINI wont use as much petrol, and as a result make less pollution.
But theyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re not going to sell it in the US.
 Fuelish!
If MINI uses fuel saving devises in the rest of the world, then they should be used here as well.
I for one will be contacting Mini USA &amp; BMW about this and I would ask others to do the same.
Respectfully,
Bob&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an &#8217;03 Cooper, which I enjoy very much. But I <em>was</em> looking forward to the &#8217;08 models, maybe a Clubman, or maybe another Cooper. As a response to the disapointing news from MINI, yesterday I Test Drove a Mazda and looked at a Saturn.
IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢m a bit put out.
Fuel economy is important to me and to my country (America) thatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s one of the reasons I like the MINI &#8211; Fuel Economy!
Remember; Lets Sip.  Billboards touting; Big Cars &#8211; Gas station at next exit?
I can (sort of) understand that BMW, can&#8217;t or wont, make their diesel run clean enough for US EPA standards because its either to costly or not worth the effort (too costly). But I&#8217;ve yet to meet anyone who didnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t breathe the same air as I do. As the Jet Stream brings ChinaÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s pollution to AmericaÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s west coast, our pollution is taken to Europe, and so on. Think about that.
Ok I canÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t get a MINI D, but not to worry, MINIÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ll make a higher milage car. So youÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re the new MINI wont use as much petrol, and as a result make less pollution.
But theyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re not going to sell it in the US.
 Fuelish!
If MINI uses fuel saving devises in the rest of the world, then they should be used here as well.
I for one will be contacting Mini USA &amp; BMW about this and I would ask others to do the same.
Respectfully,
Bob</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Bilbo Baggins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bilbo Baggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 11:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Nigel Jul 18th, 2007 Link 
They fear mounting warranty claims and problems that may creep up from these emerging technologies.

Actually BMW might be doing the US consumer a favor by not adding these features into US spec cars.

But from the fuel saving point of view, I am also dissapointed. Lawyers and Beancounters are clearly at the helm of BMW these daysÃ¢â‚¬Â¦
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&lt;p&gt;I think that you make a very good point.  The USA is definitely over run with people looking for any excuse to try to sue someone else.  I do not blame any manufacturer for not wanting to introduce a potential warranty issue.
It is just this attitude that drives up the cost of doing business in the USA.  The manufacturers have to have their own lawyers on staff and carry millions, if not billions, of dollars in insurance to prevent law suits from bankrupting their companies.  It is a real shame that that is what it has come down to.  We all pay for these large settlements each and every day.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Rant over.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>Nigel Jul 18th, 2007 Link 
They fear mounting warranty claims and problems that may creep up from these emerging technologies.

Actually BMW might be doing the US consumer a favor by not adding these features into US spec cars.

But from the fuel saving point of view, I am also dissapointed. Lawyers and Beancounters are clearly at the helm of BMW these daysÃ¢â‚¬Â¦
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<p>I think that you make a very good point.  The USA is definitely over run with people looking for any excuse to try to sue someone else.  I do not blame any manufacturer for not wanting to introduce a potential warranty issue.
It is just this attitude that drives up the cost of doing business in the USA.  The manufacturers have to have their own lawyers on staff and carry millions, if not billions, of dollars in insurance to prevent law suits from bankrupting their companies.  It is a real shame that that is what it has come down to.  We all pay for these large settlements each and every day.</p>

<p>Rant over.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Nigel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 01:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mark my words....June/July 2008 MINIUSA will issue a press release announcing the Dooper availability for the &#039;09 model year....&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark my words&#8230;.June/July 2008 MINIUSA will issue a press release announcing the Dooper availability for the &#8217;09 model year&#8230;.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Nigel</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/07/18/minis-2008-fuel-saving-technology-not-coming-to-us-market/comment-page-1/#comment-143090</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;How come I manage to get 24-25MPG driving spiritedly in my R53  S right here in the city?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Lead Foot&quot; is really an understatement. To make only 18MPG in a 1st gen S you must have been shifting near or at redline all the time. Wow!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How come I manage to get 24-25MPG driving spiritedly in my R53  S right here in the city?</p>

<p>&#8220;Lead Foot&#8221; is really an understatement. To make only 18MPG in a 1st gen S you must have been shifting near or at redline all the time. Wow!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Garrett in SF</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garrett in SF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I recently had to give up my beloved Mini Cooper S Convertible due to a back injury.  (I could no longer drive a stick ... and the sport seats were killing me.)  Anyway, I ended up leaving the Mini family to a Prius in large part due to the MPG.  In the 3 years I had my Mini, I never got more the 18 MPG in city (where I do most of my driving).  I admit, I have a lead foot, but I expected MUCH better than that.  If Mini would have had a diesel or any other MPG increasing engines available, I probably would have stayed.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently had to give up my beloved Mini Cooper S Convertible due to a back injury.  (I could no longer drive a stick &#8230; and the sport seats were killing me.)  Anyway, I ended up leaving the Mini family to a Prius in large part due to the MPG.  In the 3 years I had my Mini, I never got more the 18 MPG in city (where I do most of my driving).  I admit, I have a lead foot, but I expected MUCH better than that.  If Mini would have had a diesel or any other MPG increasing engines available, I probably would have stayed.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/07/18/minis-2008-fuel-saving-technology-not-coming-to-us-market/comment-page-1/#comment-143045</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If you could offer a diesel MINI with these advanced features and get 55+ MPG by US standards, but charged $10000 more, you wouldn&#039;t sell a lot of them.  BUT... those you did sell would make a tidy profit still, and you would get a lot of good press and PR, and you would raise the average cost of a MINI, so that someone might think &quot;Well, I might have spent $30,000 on a MINI, but at least I didn&#039;t blow $40,000 like those tree-huggers over there.&quot;  The gas mileage of the R56 is admirably imporved over the previous model, but it&#039;s not going to get the same green shopper that looks at a TDI or hybrid.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you could offer a diesel MINI with these advanced features and get 55+ MPG by US standards, but charged $10000 more, you wouldn&#8217;t sell a lot of them.  BUT&#8230; those you did sell would make a tidy profit still, and you would get a lot of good press and PR, and you would raise the average cost of a MINI, so that someone might think &#8220;Well, I might have spent $30,000 on a MINI, but at least I didn&#8217;t blow $40,000 like those tree-huggers over there.&#8221;  The gas mileage of the R56 is admirably imporved over the previous model, but it&#8217;s not going to get the same green shopper that looks at a TDI or hybrid.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: iNomis</title>
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		<dc:creator>iNomis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Are we over and under thinking what the Brake Energy Regeneration is? As Shamus said, You really just need a clutch on the alternator and then run it when your foot is off the gas and the engine is above idle or when you need to charge the battery. I&#039;m sure they used a higher output alternator matched to the new battery but it doesn&#039;t need to be that complex a system or weigh a significant amount more. That&#039;s why the gains are so slight, but it&#039;s easy to do and probabably will show up on more cars.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The upside is that with the alternator disengaged, you will actually have more power at the wheels! Perhaps that could now be part of the 30 sec boost mode?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we over and under thinking what the Brake Energy Regeneration is? As Shamus said, You really just need a clutch on the alternator and then run it when your foot is off the gas and the engine is above idle or when you need to charge the battery. I&#8217;m sure they used a higher output alternator matched to the new battery but it doesn&#8217;t need to be that complex a system or weigh a significant amount more. That&#8217;s why the gains are so slight, but it&#8217;s easy to do and probabably will show up on more cars.</p>

<p>The upside is that with the alternator disengaged, you will actually have more power at the wheels! Perhaps that could now be part of the 30 sec boost mode?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Timothy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The new U.S. diesel engines are rather complex, though. A shift indicator light is comparatively simple. :-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new U.S. diesel engines are rather complex, though. A shift indicator light is comparatively simple. :-)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Does BMW not do any demographic studies? Look how the Prius is selling. Some people in the US do want to save the earth from global warming. Also we need the diesel. Look at the way a Diesel Jetta is holding its value. Maybe this is a sign that BMW does not care either. If this is their attitude, I will look elsewhere and so will a lot of other people. BMW is missing the point. Bring the diesel and the fuel saving technology to the USA. Promote it right and it will sell. Mini is the only decent small car that offers a diesel. It will sell here.
I would put down a deposit today if it was available.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does BMW not do any demographic studies? Look how the Prius is selling. Some people in the US do want to save the earth from global warming. Also we need the diesel. Look at the way a Diesel Jetta is holding its value. Maybe this is a sign that BMW does not care either. If this is their attitude, I will look elsewhere and so will a lot of other people. BMW is missing the point. Bring the diesel and the fuel saving technology to the USA. Promote it right and it will sell. Mini is the only decent small car that offers a diesel. It will sell here.
I would put down a deposit today if it was available.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dave S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;MINI/BMW, WAKE-UP!!  Just bring a turbo diesel engine option to the US market!  VW says it&#039;s going to have an all new 50 state legal turbo diesel here in the next two years...Get with the program.
I would rather deal with a new &quot;clean&quot; running turbo diesel then with all the complex problems of auto/stop, regenerative braking and a Belt-drive Alternator Starter system...all for a 10% savings in fuel.  If I wanted a Prius I would buy a Prius.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MINI/BMW, WAKE-UP!!  Just bring a turbo diesel engine option to the US market!  VW says it&#8217;s going to have an all new 50 state legal turbo diesel here in the next two years&#8230;Get with the program.
I would rather deal with a new &#8220;clean&#8221; running turbo diesel then with all the complex problems of auto/stop, regenerative braking and a Belt-drive Alternator Starter system&#8230;all for a 10% savings in fuel.  If I wanted a Prius I would buy a Prius.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: GregW</title>
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		<dc:creator>GregW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 08:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Japan is quite a large country.
Are all these extra and electronic gizmos absolutely necessary to sell more cars? 
It&#039;s all about BMW&#039;s crusade to save the planet by trying to demonstrate more fuel efficient cars.
And the reason that is because they have put their eggs in one basket with hydrogen fuel project (see 7 series). No plans for electric cars either.
Meanwhile the new M3 is a gas guzzler.
Another strategy is to add more junk onto the car instead of reducing the price.
To me MINI Cooper is about a sports car with the basic necessities. I don&#039;t really want a &quot;luxury&quot; version.
But they market the car as a &quot;premium&quot; hatchback so all the extra stuff has to be added to up-spec the car over competitiors.
Electric brakes and stop/start are a &quot;turn off&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Japan is quite a large country.
Are all these extra and electronic gizmos absolutely necessary to sell more cars? 
It&#8217;s all about BMW&#8217;s crusade to save the planet by trying to demonstrate more fuel efficient cars.
And the reason that is because they have put their eggs in one basket with hydrogen fuel project (see 7 series). No plans for electric cars either.
Meanwhile the new M3 is a gas guzzler.
Another strategy is to add more junk onto the car instead of reducing the price.
To me MINI Cooper is about a sports car with the basic necessities. I don&#8217;t really want a &#8220;luxury&#8221; version.
But they market the car as a &#8220;premium&#8221; hatchback so all the extra stuff has to be added to up-spec the car over competitiors.
Electric brakes and stop/start are a &#8220;turn off&#8221;.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Timothy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 04:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The major reason why certain Japanese employers may be offering time off to their employees is so that they can take care of home affairs in earthquake-affected areas. There should be no technical reason in the vast majority of cases for shutting down the production lines. Japanese companies treat their employees almost like family -- they are still extremely social institutions, and life employment is still quite common. If someone&#039;s relative&#039;s home collapsed, I would expect employers to be very generous in allowing time off work.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In rare cases, in every country, there&#039;s load shedding from the electric grid. The earthquake caused several nuclear plants to automatically go offline, and industrial users sometimes contract for discretionary power supply. I haven&#039;t heard that that&#039;s still going on -- I believe most of the plants are back online now -- but it is theoretically possible.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I doubt any of that will affect MINI at all, especially with the long supply route.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The major reason why certain Japanese employers may be offering time off to their employees is so that they can take care of home affairs in earthquake-affected areas. There should be no technical reason in the vast majority of cases for shutting down the production lines. Japanese companies treat their employees almost like family &#8212; they are still extremely social institutions, and life employment is still quite common. If someone&#8217;s relative&#8217;s home collapsed, I would expect employers to be very generous in allowing time off work.</p>

<p>In rare cases, in every country, there&#8217;s load shedding from the electric grid. The earthquake caused several nuclear plants to automatically go offline, and industrial users sometimes contract for discretionary power supply. I haven&#8217;t heard that that&#8217;s still going on &#8212; I believe most of the plants are back online now &#8212; but it is theoretically possible.</p>

<p>I doubt any of that will affect MINI at all, especially with the long supply route.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Shamus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 04:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nathaniel,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I completely agree with your stand on &#039;elegant simplicity&#039;.  The argument for, or against, this technology seems to fall along the lines of those who have worked on their own cars, and those who haven&#039;t.  Fitting squarely within the first group, I can attest to the reliability issues that plague highly-cycled parts.  Non-mechanics don&#039;t seem to realize that everything that moves has a lifespan not rated in years, months or days, but in cycles.  Cycle a part often enough and it will eventually fail, no matter how well designed.  The funny thing is, it&#039;s usually the smallest possible thing that fails, a spring, switch, or valve that shuts everthing down.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;All I need is for my car to refuse to start while I&#039;m stopped at a traffic light and I&#039;ll be in big trouble!  Prius lovers out there only need press the accelerator and the electric motor will continue to drive the car without the gas engine.  This technology is going in the right direction, but I don&#039;t believe it&#039;s the final answer.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;ps.  I don&#039;t think the regenerative braking is the same as a full electric car&#039;s in-wheel system pulled from the drive motors.  It&#039;s more likely a single generator, driven off of the transmission, post-engine, pre-wheels.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathaniel,</p>

<p>I completely agree with your stand on &#8216;elegant simplicity&#8217;.  The argument for, or against, this technology seems to fall along the lines of those who have worked on their own cars, and those who haven&#8217;t.  Fitting squarely within the first group, I can attest to the reliability issues that plague highly-cycled parts.  Non-mechanics don&#8217;t seem to realize that everything that moves has a lifespan not rated in years, months or days, but in cycles.  Cycle a part often enough and it will eventually fail, no matter how well designed.  The funny thing is, it&#8217;s usually the smallest possible thing that fails, a spring, switch, or valve that shuts everthing down.</p>

<p>All I need is for my car to refuse to start while I&#8217;m stopped at a traffic light and I&#8217;ll be in big trouble!  Prius lovers out there only need press the accelerator and the electric motor will continue to drive the car without the gas engine.  This technology is going in the right direction, but I don&#8217;t believe it&#8217;s the final answer.</p>

<p>ps.  I don&#8217;t think the regenerative braking is the same as a full electric car&#8217;s in-wheel system pulled from the drive motors.  It&#8217;s more likely a single generator, driven off of the transmission, post-engine, pre-wheels.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: SB</title>
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		<dc:creator>SB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 04:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I thought I read that the BMW 1 series was also going to offer this in 08.  If that is right then does that mean it will be dropped for it as well?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Dennisr53</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennisr53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 22:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Timothysan for the info...according to other websites....Toyota, Subaru, Mazda, among others are stopping their factory lines for a few days...just to accommodate the supplies-shortfall...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Am dreaming about the all new WRX-STi new design...hopefully its not as bad as the 08 WRX...thats why I am still deciding on whether to get the R56 or to keep my R53...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In the Meantime...Happy Motoring...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Timothysan for the info&#8230;according to other websites&#8230;.Toyota, Subaru, Mazda, among others are stopping their factory lines for a few days&#8230;just to accommodate the supplies-shortfall&#8230;</p>

<p>Am dreaming about the all new WRX-STi new design&#8230;hopefully its not as bad as the 08 WRX&#8230;thats why I am still deciding on whether to get the R56 or to keep my R53&#8230;</p>

<p>In the Meantime&#8230;Happy Motoring&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel Salzman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathaniel Salzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 22:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...it doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t affect performance, then why not have it included on the MINI? The fuel effecient features certainly isnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t going to change the looks, and I daresay that itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s not going to affect the handling either.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The extra unsprung weight of recuperative breaking system might actually make a handling difference - like putting the S-lites back on for those who really seem to care about that. ;-)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You never get something for nothing. I think if you&#039;re looking for ÃƒÂ¼ber fuel economy, a MINI even with 1-2% efficiency from this kind of technology isn&#039;t going to get you there. This doesn&#039;t irritate me nearly as much as not being able to get a Cooper D in the states. That&#039;s a car that would actually be on my radar if I were looking for huge MPG numbers - and I think a practical candidate for this kind of extra technology. But since the MCD isn&#039;t available here, not getting these extra bits isn&#039;t much of a loss or really much of a surprise.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>&#8230;it doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t affect performance, then why not have it included on the MINI? The fuel effecient features certainly isnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t going to change the looks, and I daresay that itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s not going to affect the handling either.</blockquote>

<p>The extra unsprung weight of recuperative breaking system might actually make a handling difference &#8211; like putting the S-lites back on for those who really seem to care about that. ;-)</p>

<p>You never get something for nothing. I think if you&#8217;re looking for ÃƒÂ¼ber fuel economy, a MINI even with 1-2% efficiency from this kind of technology isn&#8217;t going to get you there. This doesn&#8217;t irritate me nearly as much as not being able to get a Cooper D in the states. That&#8217;s a car that would actually be on my radar if I were looking for huge MPG numbers &#8211; and I think a practical candidate for this kind of extra technology. But since the MCD isn&#8217;t available here, not getting these extra bits isn&#8217;t much of a loss or really much of a surprise.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Timothy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 22:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;SayÃ¢â‚¬Â¦is the quake that happened in Japan that affected the auto parts supplier plant gonna affect the Mini Cooper production?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;No. Here in Japan, the quake mainly affected Niigata prefecture, and even there the real earthquake damage was to older homes rather than industrial facilities. (The nuclear power plant is the notable exception. A fire broke out, and TEPCO wasn&#039;t prepared.) Automobile-related manufacturing in Japan is centered around Nagoya, far from the earthquake&#039;s epicenter. Also, because Japan is so far from the Oxford plant, there&#039;s considerable inventory nearer the factory and also possibly enroute. That long supply distance gives both manufacturers some flexibility in any parts shortage situation.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In Tokyo we got a couple shakes (slightly larger in the morning on Monday, an aftershock in the afternoon) but no damage. I think Nagoya was about the same or less. The most interesting part (to me, anyway) is that earthquakes actually last many, many seconds. It&#039;s not just one shake but more like pond ripples which keep going for a while.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We were actually very lucky. The last earthquake of this magnitude in the same area killed over 90 people.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>SayÃ¢â‚¬Â¦is the quake that happened in Japan that affected the auto parts supplier plant gonna affect the Mini Cooper production?</i></p>

<p>No. Here in Japan, the quake mainly affected Niigata prefecture, and even there the real earthquake damage was to older homes rather than industrial facilities. (The nuclear power plant is the notable exception. A fire broke out, and TEPCO wasn&#8217;t prepared.) Automobile-related manufacturing in Japan is centered around Nagoya, far from the earthquake&#8217;s epicenter. Also, because Japan is so far from the Oxford plant, there&#8217;s considerable inventory nearer the factory and also possibly enroute. That long supply distance gives both manufacturers some flexibility in any parts shortage situation.</p>

<p>In Tokyo we got a couple shakes (slightly larger in the morning on Monday, an aftershock in the afternoon) but no damage. I think Nagoya was about the same or less. The most interesting part (to me, anyway) is that earthquakes actually last many, many seconds. It&#8217;s not just one shake but more like pond ripples which keep going for a while.</p>

<p>We were actually very lucky. The last earthquake of this magnitude in the same area killed over 90 people.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dennisr53</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennisr53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 22:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is it true that the resale value of a hybrid goes down rapidly when the hybrid car/suv reaches 10 or 15 years old....due to the expensive requirement of changing the whole battery pack at that age?....I do know the recycleable batteries &quot;doesnt&quot; have much impact on the environment...etc...also...it eats up much space&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I remembered my neighbors saying that the &quot;new&quot; hybrid technology car they had was having a tiny bit of trouble starting during the cold winters during their intro...but I know its all resolved....hopefully...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;and I do know that the hybrid technology described above does not truly apply to the Fuel saving technology that Mini CarCo offers in the UK etc...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;smiling...Happy Motoring...!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it true that the resale value of a hybrid goes down rapidly when the hybrid car/suv reaches 10 or 15 years old&#8230;.due to the expensive requirement of changing the whole battery pack at that age?&#8230;.I do know the recycleable batteries &#8220;doesnt&#8221; have much impact on the environment&#8230;etc&#8230;also&#8230;it eats up much space</p>

<p>I remembered my neighbors saying that the &#8220;new&#8221; hybrid technology car they had was having a tiny bit of trouble starting during the cold winters during their intro&#8230;but I know its all resolved&#8230;.hopefully&#8230;</p>

<p>and I do know that the hybrid technology described above does not truly apply to the Fuel saving technology that Mini CarCo offers in the UK etc&#8230;</p>

<p>smiling&#8230;Happy Motoring&#8230;!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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