Comments on: EVO Comparison: JCW MCS vs Clio 197

By: MotoringFile » Archive » EVO Magazine Drives the R56 JCW (Updated)

MotoringFile » Archive » EVO Magazine Drives the R56 JCW (Updated) — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:18:50 +0000

[...] EVO Magazine Compares the R56 JCW and the Clio 197 ] [...]

By: thou

thou — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 02:07:25 +0000

Clarification is required – the four second slower lap time for Cooper S from the EVO list is an R53. EVO has not timed a non-JCW R56 MCS.

By: timmee

timmee — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 07:31:16 +0000

is the MCS JCW on test equipped with standard suspension?

By: greg

greg — Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:02:05 +0000

No SS much less a JCW suspension. Bet the tires were all season. My JCW was $40K and I love it 2x as much as my $70K CMN S. A bargain id you ask me.

By: Jon E

Jon E — Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:52:44 +0000

Perhaps the time listed for the stock MCS was the previous generation car?

By: Victor

Victor — Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:31:34 +0000

I would love to the track to understand how 20 more horses and 10 ft.lbs shaved off 4 seconds off a road track.

By: Mark (Texas)

Mark (Texas) — Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:11:57 +0000

why is it so hard to get factory-equipped Recaro seats in the USA

Not hard, MINI just has to want to do it. Because the seatbelt/airbag system Fed requirements in the U.S. are different than in the EU, it means they would need to have Recaro seats with side airbags specifically designed and manufactured for the U.S. MINIs. Currently MINI does not think it would be cost-effective to do so.

By: Jon E

Jon E — Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:02:01 +0000

It is interesting to note that the MINI's lap time is only 0.6 seconds behind the Lotus Elise S. I would have guessed that the Elise would be substantially quicker than the MINI. However, not knowing what the track looks like its hard to know which cars it favors. It would be real interesting to see a lap time for a MCS JCW with the JCW suspension package.

I sure wish MINI would offer Recaro seats like the ones pictured in the Clio 197.

By: RB

RB — Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:55:36 +0000

I’d feel smug, hell those others, Cayman etc, should be way better.

By: Jon

Jon — Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:07:56 +0000

Yeah, why is it so hard to get factory-equipped Recaro seats in the USA?

By: jas cooper

jas cooper — Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:36:25 +0000

Gotta like those seats in the Clio…

By: Motoring Advisor

Motoring Advisor — Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:58:37 +0000

Nah… I still feel smug… since the Cayman S base price is 60K, while my Works equipped R56 prices out at about 32K.

By: timmee

timmee — Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:07:14 +0000

thank you for the pdf!