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	<title>Comments on: Motortrend First Drive:  &#8217;08 Clubman</title>
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		<title>By: radiationman</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/11/06/motortrend-first-drive-08-clubman/comment-page-1/#comment-174836</link>
		<dc:creator>radiationman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hmm- I&#039;ve used the climate control knobs in &#039;03s and &#039;05s wearing thick gloves with no problems...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And I don&#039;t think that the rear passenger is intended to actually close the club door - That would be the job of the front passenger.  From my understanding the club door can&#039;t be closed if the front door is already closed and it would be impossible for the rear passenger to close the front door - So with that in mind, the club door would be intended to be closed by the front passenger not the rear one...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm- I&#8217;ve used the climate control knobs in &#8217;03s and &#8217;05s wearing thick gloves with no problems&#8230;</p>

<p>And I don&#8217;t think that the rear passenger is intended to actually close the club door &#8211; That would be the job of the front passenger.  From my understanding the club door can&#8217;t be closed if the front door is already closed and it would be impossible for the rear passenger to close the front door &#8211; So with that in mind, the club door would be intended to be closed by the front passenger not the rear one&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jimskater</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/11/06/motortrend-first-drive-08-clubman/comment-page-1/#comment-174830</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimskater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Over on mini2.com, and in other reviews, there have been complaints that the front passenger seat belt blocks egress to the back seat.  Funny that MT captions a photo of this with a comment re: how clever the installation is.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over on mini2.com, and in other reviews, there have been complaints that the front passenger seat belt blocks egress to the back seat.  Funny that MT captions a photo of this with a comment re: how clever the installation is.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: bluzeke</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/11/06/motortrend-first-drive-08-clubman/comment-page-1/#comment-174746</link>
		<dc:creator>bluzeke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 04:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Probably the best detailed interior view of the third door and its mechanicals I&#039;ve seen. But - the picture leaves me wondering what part of the door is a rear passenger supposed to grab in order to close it from the inside?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably the best detailed interior view of the third door and its mechanicals I&#8217;ve seen. But &#8211; the picture leaves me wondering what part of the door is a rear passenger supposed to grab in order to close it from the inside?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: robble</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/11/06/motortrend-first-drive-08-clubman/comment-page-1/#comment-174737</link>
		<dc:creator>robble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 02:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;no.  Available to drive in February although you may be able to order them (in dealership) now.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no.  Available to drive in February although you may be able to order them (in dealership) now.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: bee1000</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/11/06/motortrend-first-drive-08-clubman/comment-page-1/#comment-174725</link>
		<dc:creator>bee1000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;When is MINI USA going to add the Clubman to their configurator?! People are going to keep seeing these reviews in magazines and then find nothing about the Clubman online. I thought the Clubman was going to be available this year, no?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When is MINI USA going to add the Clubman to their configurator?! People are going to keep seeing these reviews in magazines and then find nothing about the Clubman online. I thought the Clubman was going to be available this year, no?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: rkw</title>
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		<dc:creator>rkw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 22:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;ThatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s what you get when you have to look for something to criticize. IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d like to recommend this device to the Motortrend reviewers so they can bone up on their button and knob skills:&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I thought it was a very sensible review, and a valid criticism of the controls. It&#039;s ironic that you would post a photo of a child&#039;s toy, because that&#039;s exactly what many people have said the center console looks like. I would definitely prefer large, knurled knobs as the reviewer suggested.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>ThatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s what you get when you have to look for something to criticize. IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d like to recommend this device to the Motortrend reviewers so they can bone up on their button and knob skills:</blockquote>

<p>I thought it was a very sensible review, and a valid criticism of the controls. It&#8217;s ironic that you would post a photo of a child&#8217;s toy, because that&#8217;s exactly what many people have said the center console looks like. I would definitely prefer large, knurled knobs as the reviewer suggested.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 18:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The control designs are unnatural and difficult to use. It was one of my first complaints with the R-56.
Oh, and the exterior too.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The control designs are unnatural and difficult to use. It was one of my first complaints with the R-56.
Oh, and the exterior too.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is it just me or all automotive writers thumb fingered dolts?  I&#039;ve never had any problems with MINI&#039;s momentary action signal control stalk, stereo controls or climate controls.  I don&#039;t believe I have more than the normal levels of hand-eye coordination and manual dexterity.  Of course I have used the equivalent of lavardera&#039;s toy as a child.  That might have something to do with it. ;)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me or all automotive writers thumb fingered dolts?  I&#8217;ve never had any problems with MINI&#8217;s momentary action signal control stalk, stereo controls or climate controls.  I don&#8217;t believe I have more than the normal levels of hand-eye coordination and manual dexterity.  Of course I have used the equivalent of lavardera&#8217;s toy as a child.  That might have something to do with it. ;)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Vanwall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vanwall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;lavardera - isn&#039;t that the optional upgrade already offered?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lavardera &#8211; isn&#8217;t that the optional upgrade already offered?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Victor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think the fan and heater controls are good ad grippy. Just a little thin.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the fan and heater controls are good ad grippy. Just a little thin.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: lavardera</title>
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		<dc:creator>lavardera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That&#039;s what you get when you have to look for something to criticize. I&#039;d like to recommend this device to the Motortrend reviewers so they can bone up on their button and knob skills:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.kidzgrow.com/IMAGES/KGR%20images/kgr_ALL_toys_pics/kgr_toys_9to14mth/kgr_toys_9to14mth_popupanimals.gif&quot; alt=&quot;button toy&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what you get when you have to look for something to criticize. I&#8217;d like to recommend this device to the Motortrend reviewers so they can bone up on their button and knob skills:</p>

<p><img src="http://www.kidzgrow.com/IMAGES/KGR%20images/kgr_ALL_toys_pics/kgr_toys_9to14mth/kgr_toys_9to14mth_popupanimals.gif" alt="button toy" /></p>]]></content:encoded>
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