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	<title>Comments on: Initial Factory JCW Kit Details Leaked</title>
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		<title>By: Impulsive</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/01/09/initial-factory-jcw-kit-details-leaked/comment-page-2/#comment-203261</link>
		<dc:creator>Impulsive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 04:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Really was considering getting one of these until I read about the leaking water pumps and horrendously noisy start-ups in the cold ... oh well, maybe one day when BMW can build reliable, trustworthy vehicles ... until then, someone else will get my $30k.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really was considering getting one of these until I read about the leaking water pumps and horrendously noisy start-ups in the cold &#8230; oh well, maybe one day when BMW can build reliable, trustworthy vehicles &#8230; until then, someone else will get my $30k.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/01/09/initial-factory-jcw-kit-details-leaked/comment-page-2/#comment-197868</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Figured that was the case, hope everything worked out ok for you and your source. Don&#039;t think Mini should mind anyways, adds the excitement for many people looking at this car. I am sure Mini will have a lot to say about this feature when it hits the market, in my world view a little buzz isn&#039;t a bad thing.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Figured that was the case, hope everything worked out ok for you and your source. Don&#8217;t think Mini should mind anyways, adds the excitement for many people looking at this car. I am sure Mini will have a lot to say about this feature when it hits the market, in my world view a little buzz isn&#8217;t a bad thing.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Timmee</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/01/09/initial-factory-jcw-kit-details-leaked/comment-page-2/#comment-197672</link>
		<dc:creator>Timmee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Why did Timmy take the information off his site?
Did MINI bully him to remove it?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The source of the information asked me to retract the post. I do not want to cause anyone to lose their employment, nor do I want to hurt the brand in any way, or foul up communication with MINI.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I was not approached by MINI directly.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>Why did Timmy take the information off his site?
Did MINI bully him to remove it?</blockquote>

<p>The source of the information asked me to retract the post. I do not want to cause anyone to lose their employment, nor do I want to hurt the brand in any way, or foul up communication with MINI.</p>

<p>I was not approached by MINI directly.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/01/09/initial-factory-jcw-kit-details-leaked/comment-page-1/#comment-197047</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 04:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good news Mac.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The naming convention isn&#039;t to bad for the clubman but for the cooper s it reads like a misprint heh (cooper works cooper&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I totally am happy to hear that the John Cooper Words is being treated as a sub-brand, very similar way they handle the M division at BMW.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Mac seems like you have a lot of insight on this development. Thanks for sharing and I hope it doesn&#039;t cause you any issues.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I personally really wanted the car to stand out visually as a unique product. Outside of the wheels which I am betting will be available to everyone visually speaking the Factory JCW is going to just be another JCW. Believe Mini has kinda missed the mark here, no doubt it will be a fun car still.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good news Mac.</p>

<p>The naming convention isn&#8217;t to bad for the clubman but for the cooper s it reads like a misprint heh (cooper works cooper&#8221;</p>

<p>I totally am happy to hear that the John Cooper Words is being treated as a sub-brand, very similar way they handle the M division at BMW.</p>

<p>Mac seems like you have a lot of insight on this development. Thanks for sharing and I hope it doesn&#8217;t cause you any issues.</p>

<p>I personally really wanted the car to stand out visually as a unique product. Outside of the wheels which I am betting will be available to everyone visually speaking the Factory JCW is going to just be another JCW. Believe Mini has kinda missed the mark here, no doubt it will be a fun car still.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mac</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/01/09/initial-factory-jcw-kit-details-leaked/comment-page-1/#comment-197002</link>
		<dc:creator>Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 22:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;tHave to say though that &quot;john cooper works cooper s &amp; john cooper works clubman&quot; are lacking though.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;its not lacking at all. both, the r55&amp;r56 factory works  vehicles are treated as totally independent products. mini wants to underline and stress the &quot;new&quot; subbrand &quot;john cooper works&quot; more in the future...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Sure it will just get the standard badging.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;they will, but the logo has been slightly redesigned as you&#039;ll be able to see in a few weeks...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>tHave to say though that &#8220;john cooper works cooper s &amp; john cooper works clubman&#8221; are lacking though.</blockquote>

<p>its not lacking at all. both, the r55&amp;r56 factory works  vehicles are treated as totally independent products. mini wants to underline and stress the &#8220;new&#8221; subbrand &#8220;john cooper works&#8221; more in the future&#8230;</p>

<blockquote>Sure it will just get the standard badging.</blockquote>

<p>they will, but the logo has been slightly redesigned as you&#8217;ll be able to see in a few weeks&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/01/09/initial-factory-jcw-kit-details-leaked/comment-page-1/#comment-196975</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Looking forward to this development, still rather wishing Mini would have developed it further along with a unique aero kit, upgraded seating. Can understand why they choose the path they did for both finical and sales reasons. Have to say though that &quot;john cooper works cooper s &amp; john cooper works clubman&quot; are lacking though. Sure it will just get the standard badging.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Believe a all out sports development would sell well. Seems a tad sad that even before Mini brings out the factory kit many after market vendors are already trumping them in many ways. Don&#039;t get me wrong though,s till think this will be a nice car just not the autobahn burner I was hoping for.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking forward to this development, still rather wishing Mini would have developed it further along with a unique aero kit, upgraded seating. Can understand why they choose the path they did for both finical and sales reasons. Have to say though that &#8220;john cooper works cooper s &amp; john cooper works clubman&#8221; are lacking though. Sure it will just get the standard badging.</p>

<p>Believe a all out sports development would sell well. Seems a tad sad that even before Mini brings out the factory kit many after market vendors are already trumping them in many ways. Don&#8217;t get me wrong though,s till think this will be a nice car just not the autobahn burner I was hoping for.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mac</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/01/09/initial-factory-jcw-kit-details-leaked/comment-page-1/#comment-196909</link>
		<dc:creator>Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I am sure there is still a lot of information to come out on the factory car.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;nope, basically everything is said! its just that some engineparts have been improved to cope with higher torque figures and higher temperatures - thats about it.
further the car wont have a limited slip or dsc as standard. these will be options. the factory works will have dtc (digital traction control) as a standard. the official names of the factory workskit will be: john cooper works cooper s &amp; john cooper works clubman.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>I am sure there is still a lot of information to come out on the factory car.</blockquote>

<p>nope, basically everything is said! its just that some engineparts have been improved to cope with higher torque figures and higher temperatures &#8211; thats about it.
further the car wont have a limited slip or dsc as standard. these will be options. the factory works will have dtc (digital traction control) as a standard. the official names of the factory workskit will be: john cooper works cooper s &amp; john cooper works clubman.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Gabe</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/01/09/initial-factory-jcw-kit-details-leaked/comment-page-1/#comment-196826</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 04:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Is there any hope for those of us looking at a Clubman? If so, any idea when we can expect details on a factory Clubman JCW??&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Your answer: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/11/19/the-jcw-factory-clubman/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Will MINI Make a JCW Factory Clubman?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>
  <p>Is there any hope for those of us looking at a Clubman? If so, any idea when we can expect details on a factory Clubman JCW??</p>
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<p>Your answer: <a href="http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/11/19/the-jcw-factory-clubman/" rel="nofollow">Will MINI Make a JCW Factory Clubman?</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/01/09/initial-factory-jcw-kit-details-leaked/comment-page-1/#comment-196825</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 04:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Actually I am betting this is going to be offered at the same time as the Coupe. As for details I would say just to keep an eye open for any factory jcw info as its going to be the same for the coupe and the clubman.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I am betting this is going to be offered at the same time as the Coupe. As for details I would say just to keep an eye open for any factory jcw info as its going to be the same for the coupe and the clubman.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Drill</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/01/09/initial-factory-jcw-kit-details-leaked/comment-page-1/#comment-196803</link>
		<dc:creator>Drill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 01:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is there any hope for those of us looking at a Clubman? If so, any idea when we can expect details on a factory Clubman JCW??&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any hope for those of us looking at a Clubman? If so, any idea when we can expect details on a factory Clubman JCW??</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/01/09/initial-factory-jcw-kit-details-leaked/comment-page-1/#comment-196789</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The way I look at it Mac is BMW/Mini can try but even MI5  and the CIA can&#039;t seem to stop information from getting out. Think Mini has no hope, plus I think that BMW/Mini releases a lot of info to sources to get community feedback.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am sure there is still a lot of information to come out on the factory car. I am quite sure Gabe still has a lot of juicy details for us.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way I look at it Mac is BMW/Mini can try but even MI5  and the CIA can&#8217;t seem to stop information from getting out. Think Mini has no hope, plus I think that BMW/Mini releases a lot of info to sources to get community feedback.</p>

<p>I am sure there is still a lot of information to come out on the factory car. I am quite sure Gabe still has a lot of juicy details for us.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: MiniMark</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/01/09/initial-factory-jcw-kit-details-leaked/comment-page-1/#comment-196772</link>
		<dc:creator>MiniMark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Why is Motoringfile withholdong information about the R56 Factory JCW from us?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Huh? The original post with all the information is still there in it&#039;s entiresty as far as I can see.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>Why is Motoringfile withholdong information about the R56 Factory JCW from us?</blockquote>

<p>Huh? The original post with all the information is still there in it&#8217;s entiresty as far as I can see.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mac</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/01/09/initial-factory-jcw-kit-details-leaked/comment-page-1/#comment-196728</link>
		<dc:creator>Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I would bet the reason the info was pulled was of a similar request to the MINI2.co.za site.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;who knows...maybe there were just &quot;tactical&quot; reasons to finally be able post something &quot;new&quot; on MF with regards t o the factory works!?
its a fact, that people at mini are getting final warnings when caught at forwarding sensible information to any press, webmaster etc...and this is happening right now and at times, this has to take into consideration!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;just my 2cents&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>I would bet the reason the info was pulled was of a similar request to the MINI2.co.za site.</blockquote>

<p>who knows&#8230;maybe there were just &#8220;tactical&#8221; reasons to finally be able post something &#8220;new&#8221; on MF with regards t o the factory works!?
its a fact, that people at mini are getting final warnings when caught at forwarding sensible information to any press, webmaster etc&#8230;and this is happening right now and at times, this has to take into consideration!</p>

<p>just my 2cents</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well Izzy I am sure Motoringfile has more info on many Mini things. Seems Gabe gets quite a bit of info officially, unofficially and somewhere in between the two. I would say whoever shared the info with him has requested that they sit on it for a while. I would bet the reason the info was pulled was of a similar request to the MINI2.co.za site.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Izzy I am sure Motoringfile has more info on many Mini things. Seems Gabe gets quite a bit of info officially, unofficially and somewhere in between the two. I would say whoever shared the info with him has requested that they sit on it for a while. I would bet the reason the info was pulled was of a similar request to the MINI2.co.za site.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: eager2own</title>
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		<dc:creator>eager2own</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;^ Not according to the information above, which is a good thing for those that want to spend the extra dough elsewhere.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^ Not according to the information above, which is a good thing for those that want to spend the extra dough elsewhere.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: IZZY</title>
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		<dc:creator>IZZY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Will this car come with the JCW Aero Kit as standard?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will this car come with the JCW Aero Kit as standard?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: IZZY</title>
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		<dc:creator>IZZY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why did Timmy take the information off his site?
Did MINI bully him to remove it?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Why is Motoringfile withholdong information about the R56 Factory JCW from us?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why did Timmy take the information off his site?
Did MINI bully him to remove it?</p>

<p>Why is Motoringfile withholdong information about the R56 Factory JCW from us?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Regrettably, the content originally posted at MINI2.co.za had to be retracted.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;how come i knew this would happen.....&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>Regrettably, the content originally posted at MINI2.co.za had to be retracted.</blockquote>

<p>how come i knew this would happen&#8230;..</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Very nice Mac, looking forward to checking them out. All I can say is &quot;come on March&quot; lol&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice Mac, looking forward to checking them out. All I can say is &#8220;come on March&#8221; lol</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Timmee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timmee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Regrettably, the content originally posted at MINI2.co.za had to be retracted.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regrettably, the content originally posted at MINI2.co.za had to be retracted.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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