Comments on: First Factory JCW MINIs Roll Off the Line? http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/ MotoringFile | MINI news, reviews and opinion. MINI Cooper, Cooper S, Clubman, Countryman Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:14:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ian F http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-216413 Ian F Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:09:36 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/#comment-216413 <p>I don't understand why everyone is in such an uproar over the pricing... the R53 JCW package is/was $6000 and didn't include a body kit or special wheels...</p> <p>One could argue the R56 package includes more than the R53 package.</p> <p>All things considered, not bad when you take into account the exchange rate...</p> I don’t understand why everyone is in such an uproar over the pricing… the R53 JCW package is/was $6000 and didn’t include a body kit or special wheels…

One could argue the R56 package includes more than the R53 package.

All things considered, not bad when you take into account the exchange rate…

]]> By: gort http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-216412 gort Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:58:16 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/#comment-216412 <p>Mules for the >50th Anniversary< edition! ;)</p> Mules for the >50th Anniversary< edition! ;)

]]> By: IRIEMAN http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-216391 IRIEMAN Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:35:18 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/#comment-216391 <p>On Apr 12th, 2008 Fussner wrote:</p> <p>"Hey Gabe, or anybody really, What is the drag coefficient on a 2007 Cooper S?"</p> <pre><code>.39 (according to cars.com anyway) </code></pre> On Apr 12th, 2008 Fussner wrote:

“Hey Gabe, or anybody really, What is the drag coefficient on a 2007 Cooper S?”

.39  (according to cars.com anyway)
]]> By: eysmahn http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-216246 eysmahn Sun, 13 Apr 2008 13:09:10 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/#comment-216246 <p>These are definately JCW cars. They have the JCW exhaust tips, painted brake calipers and the JCW side scuttles. Are they meant to be Challenge cars or they are the first factory JCW is up in the air. I just want to know, what's up with the crown spokes?</p> These are definately JCW cars. They have the JCW exhaust tips, painted brake calipers and the JCW side scuttles. Are they meant to be Challenge cars or they are the first factory JCW is up in the air. I just want to know, what’s up with the crown spokes?

]]> By: TonyUK http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-216233 TonyUK Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:47:46 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/#comment-216233 <p>Not sure if it's been mentioned, but they're missing their rear badge. JCW works cars waiting for wheels and badges (and optional aero kits) - dealer demonstrators?</p> Not sure if it’s been mentioned, but they’re missing their rear badge. JCW works cars waiting for wheels and badges (and optional aero kits) – dealer demonstrators?

]]> By: dave http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-216219 dave Sun, 13 Apr 2008 01:42:31 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/#comment-216219 <p>they might also be a fleet of factory jcw press cars, hence their all being red and identical</p> they might also be a fleet of factory jcw press cars, hence their all being red and identical

]]> By: Ryephile http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-216113 Ryephile Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:23:03 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/#comment-216113 <p>The only non-standard MCS parts I see are the exhaust tips and the red calipers. The rest [rear fogs, clear turns, Crown spokes] look like normal options. These cars are the only wheels away from looking externally like JCW factory models.</p> <p>Why are people still confused that the factory JCW model is just JCW engine & brakes and won't come with the JCW body kit or suspension. I agree it's stupid, but it doesn't change what it is.</p> The only non-standard MCS parts I see are the exhaust tips and the red calipers. The rest [rear fogs, clear turns, Crown spokes] look like normal options. These cars are the only wheels away from looking externally like JCW factory models.

Why are people still confused that the factory JCW model is just JCW engine & brakes and won’t come with the JCW body kit or suspension. I agree it’s stupid, but it doesn’t change what it is.

]]> By: Melis http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-216081 Melis Sat, 12 Apr 2008 14:36:53 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/#comment-216081 <p>Rob, That I didn't know. In the US its an option almost no one gets. Unfortunate, because I think both the MC and MCS look much better with the rear fogs.</p> Rob, That I didn’t know. In the US its an option almost no one gets. Unfortunate, because I think both the MC and MCS look much better with the rear fogs.

]]> By: Mr. Bean http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-216054 Mr. Bean Sat, 12 Apr 2008 13:03:05 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/#comment-216054 <p>Well, their jipping us on the suspension, why not the wheels too?</p> Well, their jipping us on the suspension, why not the wheels too?

]]> By: Mderijke http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-215998 Mderijke Sat, 12 Apr 2008 07:57:29 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/#comment-215998 <p>Photos were taken by Dutch member "the blue lobster" and I was with him (however my pics are not as good as his). Check www.mini-tbl.com for his pics. http://fotoalbum.mini-tbl.com/thumbnails.php?album=102</p> <p>Note that these are the only batch that were all identical and they were put aside in a special corner of the lot. The rest of the cars on the parking lot were all different models, colours, version scattered through one another.</p> <p>There's a lot of assumptions here of what this particular batch could be. I guess the true answer will only come available in time.</p> <p>Please note that the truck in the back is able to carry 3 floors of MINI's. We were hoping that it would drive by us after it was fully loaded, but that was taking a very long time (which we didn't have) :(</p> Photos were taken by Dutch member “the blue lobster” and I was with him (however my pics are not as good as his). Check http://www.mini-tbl.com for his pics. http://fotoalbum.mini-tbl.com/thumbnails.php?album=102

Note that these are the only batch that were all identical and they were put aside in a special corner of the lot. The rest of the cars on the parking lot were all different models, colours, version scattered through one another.

There’s a lot of assumptions here of what this particular batch could be. I guess the true answer will only come available in time.

Please note that the truck in the back is able to carry 3 floors of MINI’s. We were hoping that it would drive by us after it was fully loaded, but that was taking a very long time (which we didn’t have) :(

]]> By: Rob Livesey http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-215991 Rob Livesey Sat, 12 Apr 2008 07:14:15 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/#comment-215991 <p>Melis. Rear fog lights have been a requirement for all vehicles here in the UK since 1980 so this would not necessarily suggest that they are JCW Challenge cars and not the first factory JCW cars. It is not an option.</p> Melis. Rear fog lights have been a requirement for all vehicles here in the UK since 1980 so this would not necessarily suggest that they are JCW Challenge cars and not the first factory JCW cars. It is not an option.

]]> By: Fussner http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-215989 Fussner Sat, 12 Apr 2008 06:37:11 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/#comment-215989 <p>Hey Gabe, or anybody really,</p> <p>What is the drag coefficient on a 2007 Cooper S?</p> Hey Gabe, or anybody really,

What is the drag coefficient on a 2007 Cooper S?

]]> By: Melis http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-215973 Melis Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:17:52 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/#comment-215973 <p>The four reasons I can think of that these would be JCW Challenge cars and not the first factory JCW cars:</p> <ol> <li>They're ALL the Challenge Chili Red w/ White Roof & Mirrors (Yes, you can order this combo on any car, I know...but c'mon 9 of them?!)</li> <li>None have JCW emblems on the boot (Yes, they could stick that on at any time, I know)</li> <li>All have the whiteout turning signals and rear fogs (Mine does too! And I rarely see whiteout signals), as seen on all the JCW Challenge cars (Albeit with the special diffuser rear bumper, but still.)</li> <li>The JCW brakes were seen being tested on a car with the same wheels (rumored to be the smallest wheels that can handle the larger 2 pot calipers), and its much easier to remove a set of wheels, than fit these cars with Challenge wheels w/ street tires for transport, only to remove them to fit race tires. (Plus its really bad to for tires mount and remove them unless you're replacing them)</li> </ol> <p>Those are just my observations. Now, if I'm right, can I have one? Please!</p> The four reasons I can think of that these would be JCW Challenge cars and not the first factory JCW cars:

  1. They’re ALL the Challenge Chili Red w/ White Roof & Mirrors (Yes, you can order this combo on any car, I know…but c’mon 9 of them?!)
  2. None have JCW emblems on the boot (Yes, they could stick that on at any time, I know)
  3. All have the whiteout turning signals and rear fogs (Mine does too! And I rarely see whiteout signals), as seen on all the JCW Challenge cars (Albeit with the special diffuser rear bumper, but still.)
  4. The JCW brakes were seen being tested on a car with the same wheels (rumored to be the smallest wheels that can handle the larger 2 pot calipers), and its much easier to remove a set of wheels, than fit these cars with Challenge wheels w/ street tires for transport, only to remove them to fit race tires. (Plus its really bad to for tires mount and remove them unless you’re replacing them)

Those are just my observations. Now, if I’m right, can I have one? Please!

]]> By: robble http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-215966 robble Sat, 12 Apr 2008 03:45:12 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/#comment-215966 <p>yup, there will be special rims on the jcw, but no aerokit.</p> yup, there will be special rims on the jcw, but no aerokit.

]]> By: Jon http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-215941 Jon Sat, 12 Apr 2008 02:03:29 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/#comment-215941 <p>The wheels look like they are there just as a placeholder to let them transport the cars for modification. Still betting these are the next batch of racers.</p> The wheels look like they are there just as a placeholder to let them transport the cars for modification. Still betting these are the next batch of racers.

]]> By: Jimskater http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-215938 Jimskater Sat, 12 Apr 2008 01:59:14 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/#comment-215938 <p>Those would be another of the options fitted to all the press cars.</p> Those would be another of the options fitted to all the press cars.

]]> By: lavardera http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-215913 lavardera Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:53:54 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/#comment-215913 <p>Crown spokes? I thought the factory JCW came with the nice spoked wheels that looked like the racers?</p> Crown spokes? I thought the factory JCW came with the nice spoked wheels that looked like the racers?

]]> By: Mozza http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-215906 Mozza Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:20:27 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/#comment-215906 <p>Any news on when we can expect the JCW on a configurator near all of us? :-)</p> Any news on when we can expect the JCW on a configurator near all of us? :-)

]]> By: John http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-215861 John Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:21:21 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/#comment-215861 <p>Bean, That Bean edition would be awesome. I don't have the technology to photoshop one. Maybe someone else does.</p> Bean, That Bean edition would be awesome. I don’t have the technology to photoshop one. Maybe someone else does.

]]> By: Mr. Bean http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-215859 Mr. Bean Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:17:45 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/11/first-factory-jcw-minis-roll-off-the-line/#comment-215859 <p>Sorry for all my posts in a row, but I keep thinking of questions. Yeah, I'm with you eliot r. I agree 100%. Anyway, Are these Factory JCWs gonna be the predesessor to the 2006 GP? Next, I noticed the white taillamps. I like those way better than the orange. Who's with me? Next, off topic, but looking at my screen name who's up for a 2009 Mini Cooper Bean edition to celebrate the 20th anniversary of Bean? It could be lime green with a black hood. Could someone photo shop and post one here?</p> <p>Thanks, Bean (Mr.)</p> Sorry for all my posts in a row, but I keep thinking of questions. Yeah, I’m with you eliot r. I agree 100%. Anyway, Are these Factory JCWs gonna be the predesessor to the 2006 GP? Next, I noticed the white taillamps. I like those way better than the orange. Who’s with me? Next, off topic, but looking at my screen name who’s up for a 2009 Mini Cooper Bean edition to celebrate the 20th anniversary of Bean? It could be lime green with a black hood. Could someone photo shop and post one here?

Thanks, Bean (Mr.)

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