Comments on: Sunday Video Fun: CTS-V at the ‘Ring http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/ MotoringFile | MINI news, reviews and opinion. MINI Cooper, Cooper S, Clubman, Countryman Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:48:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: C4 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-221571 C4 Tue, 20 May 2008 16:01:06 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/#comment-221571 <p>Was it a new CTS-V or the older 1st gen CTS-V model?</p> Was it a new CTS-V or the older 1st gen CTS-V model?

]]> By: Dr Obnxs http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-221438 Dr Obnxs Mon, 19 May 2008 21:33:31 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/#comment-221438 <p>There was a CTS-V going up the hills where I live. Surprisingly competent. No dealer plates either.</p> <p>Matt</p> There was a CTS-V going up the hills where I live. Surprisingly competent. No dealer plates either.

Matt

]]> By: C4 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-221430 C4 Mon, 19 May 2008 20:39:38 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/#comment-221430 <p>The Cadillac BTS has an eerie resemblance to the late Cadillac Cimarron of the 1980's.</p> The Cadillac BTS has an eerie resemblance to the late Cadillac Cimarron of the 1980′s.

]]> By: C4 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-221429 C4 Mon, 19 May 2008 20:35:43 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/#comment-221429 <p>I think you can get any new CTS with a manual, Jon.</p> <p>Chad, the DTS is a very comfortable car, not bad at all. But its main drawback is that it is FWD and rides on an ancient chassis. The DTS/Eldo was the 2 door coupe version.</p> <p>The XLR is a Corvette with a Cadillac body. The current STS competes directly with the BMW 5-series and Mercedes E-Class. I think all RWD Cadillac car platforms are very respectable. But the DTS is the odd duck from a bygone era.</p> <p>Cadillac sells an Europe/Arica only model called the Cadillac BTS sports sedan:</p> <p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_BLS</p> <p>It is smaller than the CTS.</p> I think you can get any new CTS with a manual, Jon.

Chad, the DTS is a very comfortable car, not bad at all. But its main drawback is that it is FWD and rides on an ancient chassis. The DTS/Eldo was the 2 door coupe version.

The XLR is a Corvette with a Cadillac body. The current STS competes directly with the BMW 5-series and Mercedes E-Class. I think all RWD Cadillac car platforms are very respectable. But the DTS is the odd duck from a bygone era.

Cadillac sells an Europe/Arica only model called the Cadillac BTS sports sedan:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_BLS

It is smaller than the CTS.

]]> By: Jon http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-221423 Jon Mon, 19 May 2008 20:03:58 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/#comment-221423 <p>I was very impressed by this car's accomplishment on the 'Ring, until I watched the video. It was actually quite boring. Yes, it broke a record, and slayed the mighty 'Ring, but it was all with barely any fanfare, excitement or work from the driver. It is too easy to drive fast, dare I say it!</p> <p>It looked as if the driver was taking a nice drive down the highway.</p> <p>Where's the manual tranny? I know that is old-school and obsolete nowadays, but this car seems to lack one major thing: driver involvement. Did he look like he was having any fun? Not to me! The engine sounds nice, but I wasn't hearing enough of it. A car with that much power should be ear-bleedingly loud when driven at 10/10ths. Because it is a Caddy, they've got insulation stuffed everywhere, so you can't hear the V8 wail.</p> <p>This proves that this car is trying to be too many things; a luxury supercar, in sedan form. It cannot pull off all those things at the same time.</p> I was very impressed by this car’s accomplishment on the ‘Ring, until I watched the video. It was actually quite boring. Yes, it broke a record, and slayed the mighty ‘Ring, but it was all with barely any fanfare, excitement or work from the driver. It is too easy to drive fast, dare I say it!

It looked as if the driver was taking a nice drive down the highway.

Where’s the manual tranny? I know that is old-school and obsolete nowadays, but this car seems to lack one major thing: driver involvement. Did he look like he was having any fun? Not to me! The engine sounds nice, but I wasn’t hearing enough of it. A car with that much power should be ear-bleedingly loud when driven at 10/10ths. Because it is a Caddy, they’ve got insulation stuffed everywhere, so you can’t hear the V8 wail.

This proves that this car is trying to be too many things; a luxury supercar, in sedan form. It cannot pull off all those things at the same time.

]]> By: Chad http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-221421 Chad Mon, 19 May 2008 19:21:31 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/#comment-221421 <p>ETC was the ElDorado. The DTS was the DeVille. The DTS gets decent sales numbers, and for my 60 year old mother, it's an awesome car. Cheaper than the STS, more roomy than the CTS. I actually think Cadillac has a nice lineup, though I think the XLR is overpriced. And there's no incentive for them to move downmarket ala the Cimarron. CTS will be the cheapest and smallest for them for a long time.</p> ETC was the ElDorado. The DTS was the DeVille. The DTS gets decent sales numbers, and for my 60 year old mother, it’s an awesome car. Cheaper than the STS, more roomy than the CTS. I actually think Cadillac has a nice lineup, though I think the XLR is overpriced. And there’s no incentive for them to move downmarket ala the Cimarron. CTS will be the cheapest and smallest for them for a long time.

]]> By: C4 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-221417 C4 Mon, 19 May 2008 19:00:27 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/#comment-221417 <p>I am sure it does. The new CTS seems to be a fairly entertaining machine. I would have a hard time deciding between a CTS and a 3 series.</p> I am sure it does. The new CTS seems to be a fairly entertaining machine. I would have a hard time deciding between a CTS and a 3 series.

]]> By: Jack07734 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-221416 Jack07734 Mon, 19 May 2008 18:58:47 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/#comment-221416 <p>The real question is, when you turn your car on does it return the favor?</p> <p>My MINI most certanly does!!!!</p> <p>Happy Motoring, Jack</p> The real question is, when you turn your car on does it return the favor?

My MINI most certanly does!!!!

Happy Motoring, Jack

]]> By: C4 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-221396 C4 Mon, 19 May 2008 15:11:58 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/#comment-221396 <p>I think that with the soaring gas prices and upcoming fuel mileage legislation standards, we are witnessing yet another dying breed of cars: V8 sport sedans.</p> <p>Enjoy them while you can folks. Cars such as the BMW 5 series, Cadillac CTS, Mercedes E-Class, Chrysler 300/Dodge Charger HEMI and even the all new Jaguar Supercharged V8 sedan will unfortunately be a thing of the past.</p> <p>By the way, the Cadillac DTS (Previously known as ElDorado) is the last of the "Old guard" of pre "Art & Science" Cadillacs. The DTS is also the only remaining Front-wheel drive product in the lineup. I believe the DTS is also the last H-Platform GM full size FWD sedan being made. The DTS shares its underpinnings with the former Pontiac Bonneville and Buick LeSabre, both discontinued.</p> I think that with the soaring gas prices and upcoming fuel mileage legislation standards, we are witnessing yet another dying breed of cars: V8 sport sedans.

Enjoy them while you can folks. Cars such as the BMW 5 series, Cadillac CTS, Mercedes E-Class, Chrysler 300/Dodge Charger HEMI and even the all new Jaguar Supercharged V8 sedan will unfortunately be a thing of the past.

By the way, the Cadillac DTS (Previously known as ElDorado) is the last of the “Old guard” of pre “Art & Science” Cadillacs. The DTS is also the only remaining Front-wheel drive product in the lineup. I believe the DTS is also the last H-Platform GM full size FWD sedan being made. The DTS shares its underpinnings with the former Pontiac Bonneville and Buick LeSabre, both discontinued.

]]> By: Myke http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-221395 Myke Mon, 19 May 2008 14:56:05 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/#comment-221395 <p>"Why wouldn’t they run something from their Chevrolet stable? Isn’t that their performance brand? Why poach sales from their own Corvette?"</p> <p>One is a sedan. The other is a coupe. The 'Vette is faster around the track. This is saying it's the fastest SEDAN.</p> “Why wouldn’t they run something from their Chevrolet stable? Isn’t that their performance brand? Why poach sales from their own Corvette?”

One is a sedan. The other is a coupe. The ‘Vette is faster around the track. This is saying it’s the fastest SEDAN.

]]> By: Chad http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-221394 Chad Mon, 19 May 2008 14:44:51 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/#comment-221394 <p>Don't forget, this is the CTS-V, specifically designed and marketed to be a performance vehicle. If you want a cushy soft Cadillac, they still sell the DTS, which is a nice car, just completely different market than these V series Caddys. I think it's great that GM is giving those with plenty of money a nice choice for performance cars. I'm curious how this will sell overseas, too.</p> Don’t forget, this is the CTS-V, specifically designed and marketed to be a performance vehicle. If you want a cushy soft Cadillac, they still sell the DTS, which is a nice car, just completely different market than these V series Caddys. I think it’s great that GM is giving those with plenty of money a nice choice for performance cars. I’m curious how this will sell overseas, too.

]]> By: dotBob http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-221389 dotBob Mon, 19 May 2008 13:24:34 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/#comment-221389 <p>1) Fastest production <em>sedan</em>. 2) The engine is the same as in one of the 'Vettes (Z06 or ZR1, can't remember at the moment).</p> <p>.bob</p> 1) Fastest production sedan. 2) The engine is the same as in one of the ‘Vettes (Z06 or ZR1, can’t remember at the moment).

.bob

]]> By: Dr Obnxs http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-221359 Dr Obnxs Mon, 19 May 2008 04:24:21 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/#comment-221359 <p>Say what you want about cadillac, I don't think adding steering and performance to the brand is off the marque at all. All those that like the "floater" caddies are getting pretty long in the tooth, and those new buyers that they want to attract are used to the offerings from BMW, Mercedes, Lexus and Infinity. Gotta have a car that steers to play in that pond.</p> <p>Matt</p> Say what you want about cadillac, I don’t think adding steering and performance to the brand is off the marque at all. All those that like the “floater” caddies are getting pretty long in the tooth, and those new buyers that they want to attract are used to the offerings from BMW, Mercedes, Lexus and Infinity. Gotta have a car that steers to play in that pond.

Matt

]]> By: TomB http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-221354 TomB Mon, 19 May 2008 03:36:27 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/#comment-221354 <p>Does anyone know the fastest lap time for a production MINI?</p> Does anyone know the fastest lap time for a production MINI?

]]> By: Pete http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-221351 Pete Mon, 19 May 2008 02:41:42 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/#comment-221351 <p>First they did it with the new turbo Cobalt and now the new CTS! Gotta' give them credit-they are now-finally-onto something good!</p> First they did it with the new turbo Cobalt and now the new CTS! Gotta’ give them credit-they are now-finally-onto something good!

]]> By: Victor http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-221346 Victor Mon, 19 May 2008 01:15:59 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/#comment-221346 <p>The most impressive part is the automatic gear box</p> The most impressive part is the automatic gear box

]]> By: DB http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-221340 DB Mon, 19 May 2008 00:31:55 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/#comment-221340 <p>You can find a list of 'fastest' cars over at <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordschleife_fastest_lap_times" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia</a>.</p> <p>It's even pretty up-to-date.</p> You can find a list of ‘fastest’ cars over at Wikipedia.

It’s even pretty up-to-date.

]]> By: Chris W http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-221330 Chris W Sun, 18 May 2008 23:10:59 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/#comment-221330 <p>According to AutoWeek, the Corvette Z06 is still faster at 7:56 compared to the Caddy's 7:59.32 Still very impressive! By the way, AutoWeek also points out that the Nissan GT-R conquers the ring at 7:29 (about 30 seconds faster than the Vette).</p> According to AutoWeek, the Corvette Z06 is still faster at 7:56 compared to the Caddy’s 7:59.32 Still very impressive! By the way, AutoWeek also points out that the Nissan GT-R conquers the ring at 7:29 (about 30 seconds faster than the Vette).

]]> By: C4 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-221317 C4 Sun, 18 May 2008 20:38:11 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/#comment-221317 <p>Some people hate Detroit no matter what.</p> <p>Kudos for Cadillac. Finally a car than has put the boys over at Germany in full notice.</p> Some people hate Detroit no matter what.

Kudos for Cadillac. Finally a car than has put the boys over at Germany in full notice.

]]> By: Krut http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-221314 Krut Sun, 18 May 2008 20:01:57 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/05/18/sunday-video-fun/#comment-221314 <p>I think it's a fantastic testimony to American engineering and we should all be proud that we're able to still exceed benchmarks with the best! If I had a gazillion dollars, this car would be in my stable!</p> I think it’s a fantastic testimony to American engineering and we should all be proud that we’re able to still exceed benchmarks with the best! If I had a gazillion dollars, this car would be in my stable!

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