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	<title>Comments on: MINI  to Sell Fiats in North America?</title>
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		<title>By: MINI to sell Alfa Romeos? - www.miniMINImini.com</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/07/08/mini-to-sell-fiats-in-north-america/comment-page-1/#comment-259011</link>
		<dc:creator>MINI to sell Alfa Romeos? - www.miniMINImini.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 08:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Jul.12, 2008 in Motoring, New Mini, On The Web  There are several reports circulating (most notably here and here) that MINI may be considering letting Fiat sell Alfa Romeo cars through the MINI dealer [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jul.12, 2008 in Motoring, New Mini, On The Web  There are several reports circulating (most notably here and here) that MINI may be considering letting Fiat sell Alfa Romeo cars through the MINI dealer [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: BimmerFile &#187; Archive &#187; Fiat&#8217;s Merger w/Chrysler &#38; How it Affects the BMW Group</title>
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		<dc:creator>BimmerFile &#187; Archive &#187; Fiat&#8217;s Merger w/Chrysler &#38; How it Affects the BMW Group</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Fiat and BMW were in talks to allow Fiat to share showroom space with MINIs in the USA thus giving Fiat a low-cost entry back into the US [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: MotoringFile &#187; Archive &#187; Fiat&#8217;s Merger w/Chrysler &#38; How it Affects MINI</title>
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		<dc:creator>MotoringFile &#187; Archive &#187; Fiat&#8217;s Merger w/Chrysler &#38; How it Affects MINI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Fiat and BMW were in talks to allow Fiat to share showroom space with MINIs in the USA thus giving Fiat a low-cost entry back into the US [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: MotoringFile &#187; Archive &#187; MotoringFile&#8217;s Best of 2008</title>
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		<dc:creator>MotoringFile &#187; Archive &#187; MotoringFile&#8217;s Best of 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Fiat to Sell Cars at MINI Dealers in the US / BMW Group &amp; Fiat Officially Sign “Memorandum of [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: MINI to Sell Alfa Romeos? - Mini MINI Mini!</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/07/08/mini-to-sell-fiats-in-north-america/comment-page-1/#comment-228051</link>
		<dc:creator>MINI to Sell Alfa Romeos? - Mini MINI Mini!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 15:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] to Sell Alfa Romeos?  By Keith Jul.12, 2008 in Features  There are several reports (here and here) circulating that MINI may be considering letting Fiat sell Alfa Romeo cars through the [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: faster, Tobias!</title>
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		<dc:creator>faster, Tobias!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 00:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@ paul - if you are paying $300 for an oil change you are really getting taken. The going rate at our dealership is $95.00, and that&#039;s up here in Canada.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ paul &#8211; if you are paying $300 for an oil change you are really getting taken. The going rate at our dealership is $95.00, and that&#8217;s up here in Canada.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Shamus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 10:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is it April 1st already? Sorry, it must be the drugs.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 07:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think it&#039;s an interesting strategic move by BMW. If you travel to South America, Asia, Europe or Africa, you&#039;ll see that a larger percentage of the vehicles on the road are small cars. For example in Brasil, the Fiat hatchbacks reign supreme along with the Ford Ka. Here in Africa, Renault, Citroen, Nissan March&#039;s, etc. are all over the place.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My guess is that the large car companies are looking at the forecast of high fuel prices for at least the next 10-20 years and are forecasting a long term shift to smaller more fuel efficient cars in the American market.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We&#039;ve seen the Toyota Yaris and the Honda Fit compete against the MINI in this market, in terms of the size of the car (not necessarily the quality of the drive) and fuel economy. The big 3 (or is it two now?) keep talking about how they&#039;re playing catch up in the fuel efficient cars department, but I think that&#039;s just their lobbying ploy; they&#039;re already producing and selling small, fuel efficient Opels and Ford Ka&#039;s and Ford Focus&#039;s overseas. All they have to do is bring them home to the U.S., tweak the designs slightly to adjust for U.S. aesthetics and introduce them as &quot;new&quot; designs.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So I think BMW&#039;s looking at this as a way to expand their marketing of the higher end luxury/performance sector of mid-budget small cars. Yes, you can buy a C30 or a 135i or a GTI. But my feeling is that BMW&#039;s looking at a future where the small car market is going to become even more congested, and the MINI will soon not be the smallest car out there (I&#039;m ignoring the Smart, obviously, as I think that will eventually fade owing to its poor quality). Hooking up with Fiat, which has a great new re-modeled small car in the 500, seems to be a great move in shoring up a strong presence in this sector of the U.S. car market.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s an interesting strategic move by BMW. If you travel to South America, Asia, Europe or Africa, you&#8217;ll see that a larger percentage of the vehicles on the road are small cars. For example in Brasil, the Fiat hatchbacks reign supreme along with the Ford Ka. Here in Africa, Renault, Citroen, Nissan March&#8217;s, etc. are all over the place.</p>

<p>My guess is that the large car companies are looking at the forecast of high fuel prices for at least the next 10-20 years and are forecasting a long term shift to smaller more fuel efficient cars in the American market.</p>

<p>We&#8217;ve seen the Toyota Yaris and the Honda Fit compete against the MINI in this market, in terms of the size of the car (not necessarily the quality of the drive) and fuel economy. The big 3 (or is it two now?) keep talking about how they&#8217;re playing catch up in the fuel efficient cars department, but I think that&#8217;s just their lobbying ploy; they&#8217;re already producing and selling small, fuel efficient Opels and Ford Ka&#8217;s and Ford Focus&#8217;s overseas. All they have to do is bring them home to the U.S., tweak the designs slightly to adjust for U.S. aesthetics and introduce them as &#8220;new&#8221; designs.</p>

<p>So I think BMW&#8217;s looking at this as a way to expand their marketing of the higher end luxury/performance sector of mid-budget small cars. Yes, you can buy a C30 or a 135i or a GTI. But my feeling is that BMW&#8217;s looking at a future where the small car market is going to become even more congested, and the MINI will soon not be the smallest car out there (I&#8217;m ignoring the Smart, obviously, as I think that will eventually fade owing to its poor quality). Hooking up with Fiat, which has a great new re-modeled small car in the 500, seems to be a great move in shoring up a strong presence in this sector of the U.S. car market.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dr Obnxs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Obnxs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 07:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Remember, Mini is capacity limited, not customer limited. Even if there is some overlap, Minis will still make thier sales numbers for at least a couple years.....&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Interesting reads none the less....&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Matt&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember, Mini is capacity limited, not customer limited. Even if there is some overlap, Minis will still make thier sales numbers for at least a couple years&#8230;..</p>

<p>Interesting reads none the less&#8230;.</p>

<p>Matt</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/07/08/mini-to-sell-fiats-in-north-america/comment-page-1/#comment-227600</link>
		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 03:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Going to a Toyota service place is like going to the proctologist? When MINI charges over $300 for an oil change, I know who it is who is getting in the rear, and it is not the Camry driver. Fortunately I think I&#039;ll be able to sit down again just in time for my Inspection II - what??&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going to a Toyota service place is like going to the proctologist? When MINI charges over $300 for an oil change, I know who it is who is getting in the rear, and it is not the Camry driver. Fortunately I think I&#8217;ll be able to sit down again just in time for my Inspection II &#8211; what??</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: scruffylooking</title>
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		<dc:creator>scruffylooking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 02:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Mozza, I&#039;d shoot your grandmother for an 8C Competizione!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Not really, but I feel your sentiment.  That is quite possibly one of the sexiest beasts on any road in the world today.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mozza, I&#8217;d shoot your grandmother for an 8C Competizione!</p>

<p>Not really, but I feel your sentiment.  That is quite possibly one of the sexiest beasts on any road in the world today.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mr. Bean</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/07/08/mini-to-sell-fiats-in-north-america/comment-page-1/#comment-227589</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Bean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 02:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Cool. I can now buy an Alfa GT!!! Oh wait... and a 500!!!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool. I can now buy an Alfa GT!!! Oh wait&#8230; and a 500!!!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mozza</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/07/08/mini-to-sell-fiats-in-north-america/comment-page-1/#comment-227587</link>
		<dc:creator>Mozza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 01:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d literally shoot my own grandmother for an 8C Competizione in Competizione Red. I really really hope this is true, Alfa Romeo&#039;s are what styling and driving should be about and I&#039;d be first in line for one when it comes time for a bigger car.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d literally shoot my own grandmother for an 8C Competizione in Competizione Red. I really really hope this is true, Alfa Romeo&#8217;s are what styling and driving should be about and I&#8217;d be first in line for one when it comes time for a bigger car.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: MaxMCS</title>
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		<dc:creator>MaxMCS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 01:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Am I the only one that thinks Fiat is being lazy for not just opening a Fiat delaership over here instead of leeching into BMW? I understand everything that BMW/MINI is trying to accomplish here, but at the same time, it&#039;s just extremely weird for me to see a 500 and an MCS next to one another, kind of takes away some of the MINI-ness of it all.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d like to state for the record that I&#039;m a huge fan of the 500, I think it rocks.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only one that thinks Fiat is being lazy for not just opening a Fiat delaership over here instead of leeching into BMW? I understand everything that BMW/MINI is trying to accomplish here, but at the same time, it&#8217;s just extremely weird for me to see a 500 and an MCS next to one another, kind of takes away some of the MINI-ness of it all.</p>

<p>I&#8217;d like to state for the record that I&#8217;m a huge fan of the 500, I think it rocks.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Think this would be great to have BMW handling the US sales for them.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: s.m8o</title>
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		<dc:creator>s.m8o</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Fiat 500 looks &quot;fun&quot;, and 6&quot; smaller than the MINI.  But like Top Gear said when test driving it, the MINI drives brilliantly... implied not so for the Fiat, then later describing the excessive lean as &quot;adding to the charm&quot; of it.  ...lol.  Maybe I&#039;d consider a Fiat 500 S, JCW... 
;^p&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fiat 500 looks &#8220;fun&#8221;, and 6&#8243; smaller than the MINI.  But like Top Gear said when test driving it, the MINI drives brilliantly&#8230; implied not so for the Fiat, then later describing the excessive lean as &#8220;adding to the charm&#8221; of it.  &#8230;lol.  Maybe I&#8217;d consider a Fiat 500 S, JCW&#8230; 
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		<title>By: RB</title>
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		<dc:creator>RB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Gimme a brake! They don&#039;t have enuff MINI dealerships as it is and can&#039;t, except for a few like MOP, service the cars properly now.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My wife and I would like to move to California&#039;s central coast. I would have to drive 2-3 hours to a dealer in the San Jose area or... unless a MINI dealership ever came to Santa Barbara&#039;s BMW dealership, drive back down to one in LA area.... 2-3 hours.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Now why would Frank want to go backwards???&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gimme a brake! They don&#8217;t have enuff MINI dealerships as it is and can&#8217;t, except for a few like MOP, service the cars properly now.</p>

<p>My wife and I would like to move to California&#8217;s central coast. I would have to drive 2-3 hours to a dealer in the San Jose area or&#8230; unless a MINI dealership ever came to Santa Barbara&#8217;s BMW dealership, drive back down to one in LA area&#8230;. 2-3 hours.</p>

<p>Now why would Frank want to go backwards???</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Seth L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There is a lot of product overlap in those lines.  Maybe their planning on cherry picking some of the larger cars?  But then that would compete with BMW on price?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Maybe the MPV&#039;s then?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a lot of product overlap in those lines.  Maybe their planning on cherry picking some of the larger cars?  But then that would compete with BMW on price?</p>

<p>Maybe the MPV&#8217;s then?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ulrich</title>
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		<dc:creator>ulrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I guess no Alfa MiTo for us since it would compete with the Mini.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess no Alfa MiTo for us since it would compete with the Mini.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i don&#039;t car how they do it, i just want my alfa romeo here&lt;/p&gt;
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