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		<title>By: Wallace</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/07/21/the-history-of-the-modern-jcw-tuning-kits/comment-page-1/#comment-264389</link>
		<dc:creator>Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I hope this site is still active, because I have just the question for you guys.  I am looking to purchase a used 2005 R53 in the US.  The photos show an engine cover with the JCW engine cover and tag that says JCW tuning kit #xxx, and there are JCW emblems everywhere including the brake calipers.  When I checked the VIn with the local MINI dealer, however, they told me the VIN did not correspond to a JCW vehicle, just an R53.  How is this possible?  Please reply to my email if possible.  Thanks so much,&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope this site is still active, because I have just the question for you guys.  I am looking to purchase a used 2005 R53 in the US.  The photos show an engine cover with the JCW engine cover and tag that says JCW tuning kit #xxx, and there are JCW emblems everywhere including the brake calipers.  When I checked the VIn with the local MINI dealer, however, they told me the VIN did not correspond to a JCW vehicle, just an R53.  How is this possible?  Please reply to my email if possible.  Thanks so much,</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: mini cooper tuning</title>
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		<dc:creator>mini cooper tuning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Believe it or not, I have never driven a 2005+ JCW R53 S JCW has always been a point of interest with me.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Believe it or not, I have never driven a 2005+ JCW R53 S JCW has always been a point of interest with me.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Brian:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;At the time (circa 2003), the dealership where I sold MINI charged $5,400 to install the kit.  I live in OH, and it is important to note that prices vary greatly from coast to coast.  If you&#039;d like a more current price, simply pick a dealer from miniusa.com, call the service/parts dept. and pose as a 2003 MCS owner who wants to install one.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian:</p>

<p>At the time (circa 2003), the dealership where I sold MINI charged $5,400 to install the kit.  I live in OH, and it is important to note that prices vary greatly from coast to coast.  If you&#8217;d like a more current price, simply pick a dealer from miniusa.com, call the service/parts dept. and pose as a 2003 MCS owner who wants to install one.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 08:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just bought a used 2003 Mini Cooper S from a Mazda Dealership in Oregon.  I was surprised to find a complete JCW tune kit installed.  There was no mention of this in the advertising.  How much would it have cost to put this in.  Thanks&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just bought a used 2003 Mini Cooper S from a Mazda Dealership in Oregon.  I was surprised to find a complete JCW tune kit installed.  There was no mention of this in the advertising.  How much would it have cost to put this in.  Thanks</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 04:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;2003-04 John Cooper Works 126 hp Tuning Kit for MINI Cooper&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;UK sales: ?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Technical Specification&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;* Machined cylinder head
* &quot;Cat-back&quot; sport exhaust system
* Improved-flow air filter
* Cover injection tube
* Modified engine control unit
* Engine cover finished in silver, including a John Cooper Works emblem
* John Cooper Works rear and side vent badges
* John Cooper Works certificate of authenticity
&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Performance data&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;* 126 hp
* 155 Nm peak torque at 4,750 rpm
* 126 mph top speed
* 0-62 mph in 8.9 seconds
&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>2003-04 John Cooper Works 126 hp Tuning Kit for MINI Cooper</strong></p>

<p>UK sales: ?</p>

<p>Technical Specification</p>

<pre><code>* Machined cylinder head
* "Cat-back" sport exhaust system
* Improved-flow air filter
* Cover injection tube
* Modified engine control unit
* Engine cover finished in silver, including a John Cooper Works emblem
* John Cooper Works rear and side vent badges
* John Cooper Works certificate of authenticity
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<p>Performance data</p>

<pre><code>* 126 hp
* 155 Nm peak torque at 4,750 rpm
* 126 mph top speed
* 0-62 mph in 8.9 seconds
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		<title>By: C4</title>
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		<dc:creator>C4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I remember driving a dealer installed 200HP JCW R53 S back in the summer of 2003 and that car put a huge grin in my face. To me that car felt &quot;right&quot; like any other factory R53 should have felt and driven (This was before the 2005 &quot;Facelift&quot;) from the get go. To me the bone stock pre-2005 R53 S felt a little lethargic from the get go and the original JCW kit addressed some of the annoying acceleration issues the stock Cooper S of the time had.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Believe it or not, I have never driven a 2005+ JCW R53 S, dealer or factory but I just can&#039;t even begin to imagine how sweet those cars must be in comparison to the original pre-2005 200HP JCW cars.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I still think 1st gen R53 JCW cars (Including the GP of course) will be very sought after vehicles in years to come and the factory versions will command premium prices in the used car market.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember driving a dealer installed 200HP JCW R53 S back in the summer of 2003 and that car put a huge grin in my face. To me that car felt &#8220;right&#8221; like any other factory R53 should have felt and driven (This was before the 2005 &#8220;Facelift&#8221;) from the get go. To me the bone stock pre-2005 R53 S felt a little lethargic from the get go and the original JCW kit addressed some of the annoying acceleration issues the stock Cooper S of the time had.</p>

<p>Believe it or not, I have never driven a 2005+ JCW R53 S, dealer or factory but I just can&#8217;t even begin to imagine how sweet those cars must be in comparison to the original pre-2005 200HP JCW cars.</p>

<p>I still think 1st gen R53 JCW cars (Including the GP of course) will be very sought after vehicles in years to come and the factory versions will command premium prices in the used car market.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: nuvolari</title>
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		<dc:creator>nuvolari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The 210 PS and Upgrade kits were announced in October 2004.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My bad on the date, thanks.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>The 210 PS and Upgrade kits were announced in October 2004.</blockquote>

<p>My bad on the date, thanks.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: nuvolari</title>
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		<dc:creator>nuvolari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Nuvolari. I never heard of a â€œrestrictive crimpâ€ in the JCW cabrio exhaust. Any idea how it can be â€œuncrimptedâ€?&lt;/blockquote

I don&#039;t believe it can be, if you have a cabrio.  If you have a coupe, it probably could be through some creative torch work.  My preference is a pre-cabrio dealer-installed JCW exhaust with the front resonator section replaced with a straight pipe (MyMini offers a nice piece). With that you achieve a true &quot;rorty&quot; exhaust note. :)&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>Nuvolari. I never heard of a â€œrestrictive crimpâ€ in the JCW cabrio exhaust. Any idea how it can be â€œuncrimptedâ€?&lt;/blockquote

I don&#8217;t believe it can be, if you have a cabrio.  If you have a coupe, it probably could be through some creative torch work.  My preference is a pre-cabrio dealer-installed JCW exhaust with the front resonator section replaced with a straight pipe (MyMini offers a nice piece). With that you achieve a true &#8220;rorty&#8221; exhaust note. :)</blockquote>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nice to see this all laid out, good work Gabe.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;JCW has always been a point of interest with me.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Though I have to say this story pretty much has me wondering about Mini&#039;s future.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.motorauthority.com/cars/bmw/new-fiat-platform-could-be-use-for-bigger-mini-model/#more-6566&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;A larger Mini platform by 2015&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Looks like the ever growing size of the Mini is still underway.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to see this all laid out, good work Gabe.</p>

<p>JCW has always been a point of interest with me.</p>

<p>Though I have to say this story pretty much has me wondering about Mini&#8217;s future.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.motorauthority.com/cars/bmw/new-fiat-platform-could-be-use-for-bigger-mini-model/#more-6566" rel="nofollow">http://www.motorauthority.com/cars/bmw/new-fiat-platform-could-be-use-for-bigger-mini-model/#more-6566</a></p>

<p>&#8220;A larger Mini platform by 2015&#8243;</p>

<p>Looks like the ever growing size of the Mini is still underway.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: MINIAC</title>
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		<dc:creator>MINIAC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The torque listed for the 200 PS kit should be:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;240 Nm peak torque at 4,000 rpm&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The torque listed for the 200 PS kit should be:</p>

<ul>
<li>240 Nm peak torque at 4,000 rpm</li>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Greg,
It can&#039;t and still fit under the cabrio.  The crimp is there to allow the exhaust pipe to fit next to a cabrio-only body-stiffening brace.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;JCW Coupes, even the GP came with the crimp--even though it wasn&#039;t needed to fit--because MINI didn&#039;t want to offer two separate JCW exhausts.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You can have a muffler ship remove the crimp and weld in another section of exhaust pipe.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,
It can&#8217;t and still fit under the cabrio.  The crimp is there to allow the exhaust pipe to fit next to a cabrio-only body-stiffening brace.</p>

<p>JCW Coupes, even the GP came with the crimp&#8211;even though it wasn&#8217;t needed to fit&#8211;because MINI didn&#8217;t want to offer two separate JCW exhausts.</p>

<p>You can have a muffler ship remove the crimp and weld in another section of exhaust pipe.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nuvolari. I never heard of a &quot;restrictive crimp&quot; in the JCW cabrio exhaust. Any idea how it can be &quot;uncrimpted&quot;?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nuvolari. I never heard of a &#8220;restrictive crimp&#8221; in the JCW cabrio exhaust. Any idea how it can be &#8220;uncrimpted&#8221;?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: MINIAC</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/07/21/the-history-of-the-modern-jcw-tuning-kits/comment-page-1/#comment-228977</link>
		<dc:creator>MINIAC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The 200 PS kit was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mini2.com/forum/1713209-post5.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;announced in April 2003&lt;/a&gt; but the kits didn&#039;t reach US dealers until June.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The 210 PS and Upgrade kits were &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mini2.com/forum/1713251-post11.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;announced in October 2004&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 200 PS kit was <a href="http://www.mini2.com/forum/1713209-post5.html" rel="nofollow">announced in April 2003</a> but the kits didn&#8217;t reach US dealers until June.</p>

<p>The 210 PS and Upgrade kits were <a href="http://www.mini2.com/forum/1713251-post11.html" rel="nofollow">announced in October 2004</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: nuvolari</title>
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		<dc:creator>nuvolari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Edge, maybe we should start a Mini site. These hacks obviously don&#039;t know what they&#039;re doing. :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edge, maybe we should start a Mini site. These hacks obviously don&#8217;t know what they&#8217;re doing. :)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Edge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I concur with nuvolari above.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also, the list is missing one small but still very significant kit:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=RC33&amp;mospid=48014&amp;btnr=11_3548&amp;hg=11&amp;fg=95&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The JCW Tuning Kit for the MINI Cooper&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(Note: This was for the R50 Cooper, not the Cooper S... and it pre-dates the JCW Tuning Kit for the R53.  It&#039;s also distinctly different than the JCW Sound Kit for the MINI Cooper that was listed above)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I concur with nuvolari above.</p>

<p>Also, the list is missing one small but still very significant kit:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=RC33&amp;mospid=48014&amp;btnr=11_3548&amp;hg=11&amp;fg=95" rel="nofollow">The JCW Tuning Kit for the MINI Cooper</a></p>

<p>(Note: This was for the R50 Cooper, not the Cooper S&#8230; and it pre-dates the JCW Tuning Kit for the R53.  It&#8217;s also distinctly different than the JCW Sound Kit for the MINI Cooper that was listed above)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: nuvolari</title>
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		<dc:creator>nuvolari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hmmm.  So, this seems incorrect to me.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;From what I know, the original 03-04 dealer-installed kit did NOT include an upgraded air filter or larger injectors.  Just an new SC (with then upgraded rotors), ported cylinder head, plugs, exhaust and ECU update.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The kit was enhanced in 7/04 (US) to include the air intake and larger injectors, along with a new tune to take advantage of these.  That is where the 10hp difference came from.  This upgrade to 7/04 specs was available to purchasers of the v1 kit at a surprisingly reasonable price from the dealer.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This later kit became the factory option available for 05-06, with the exception of the exhaust being welded in place at the factory and including a restrictive crimp so that it would be compatible with the Cabrio&#039;s rear end.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm.  So, this seems incorrect to me.</p>

<p>From what I know, the original 03-04 dealer-installed kit did NOT include an upgraded air filter or larger injectors.  Just an new SC (with then upgraded rotors), ported cylinder head, plugs, exhaust and ECU update.</p>

<p>The kit was enhanced in 7/04 (US) to include the air intake and larger injectors, along with a new tune to take advantage of these.  That is where the 10hp difference came from.  This upgrade to 7/04 specs was available to purchasers of the v1 kit at a surprisingly reasonable price from the dealer.</p>

<p>This later kit became the factory option available for 05-06, with the exception of the exhaust being welded in place at the factory and including a restrictive crimp so that it would be compatible with the Cabrio&#8217;s rear end.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Drill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great info Gabe, thanks!
When do you suppose we can update the info above to include the Stage 1 Clubman kit?? :-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great info Gabe, thanks!
When do you suppose we can update the info above to include the Stage 1 Clubman kit?? :-)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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