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	<title>Comments on: MINI Crossover Prototype Spied Undergoing Cold Weather Testing</title>
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		<title>By: fourblades</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/02/16/mini-crossover-prototype-spied-undergoing-cold-weather-testing/comment-page-2/#comment-253525</link>
		<dc:creator>fourblades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 05:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I wonder why some people are hating this car the same way some were hating the newer and chubbier version of MINI Cooper... I recommend waiting, I assume most have grown into the newer ones by now.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder why some people are hating this car the same way some were hating the newer and chubbier version of MINI Cooper&#8230; I recommend waiting, I assume most have grown into the newer ones by now.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: C4</title>
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		<dc:creator>C4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just don&#039;t see how can BMW make any sales/profit projections on this thing given the bad state of the economy. If things don&#039;t improve by the fall I would not be surprised BMW being forced to shelve it for good.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just don&#8217;t see how can BMW make any sales/profit projections on this thing given the bad state of the economy. If things don&#8217;t improve by the fall I would not be surprised BMW being forced to shelve it for good.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: SFRedMCc</title>
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		<dc:creator>SFRedMCc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 02:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just checked the Audi website (which is really clumsy to navigate); and it seems that for a &quot;base&quot; A3-Sportwagon w/ all-wheel drive it&#039;ll cost $30.5K.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just checked the Audi website (which is really clumsy to navigate); and it seems that for a &#8220;base&#8221; A3-Sportwagon w/ all-wheel drive it&#8217;ll cost $30.5K.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: bavarian racing green</title>
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		<dc:creator>bavarian racing green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;...i haven&#039;t commented here for a long time because i used to like reading things from folks who enjoy cars...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;...mostly folks just complain now...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;...personally i&#039;m excited to see it in the flesh as i foresee this as a viable stablemate to my r53, especially if it&#039;s diesel...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;...i loves me an ugly diesel...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;i haven&#8217;t commented here for a long time because i used to like reading things from folks who enjoy cars&#8230;</p>

<p>&#8230;mostly folks just complain now&#8230;</p>

<p>&#8230;personally i&#8217;m excited to see it in the flesh as i foresee this as a viable stablemate to my r53, especially if it&#8217;s diesel&#8230;</p>

<p>&#8230;i loves me an ugly diesel&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: dc11r</title>
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		<dc:creator>dc11r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;well, the thing is, if the r56 cabrio is already absurdly priced, imagine this thing.  Its going to be well into the $40K range, which by then you&#039;d be better off with either an A3 or A4 wagon, or honda element, scion xB, honda crv, acura RDX, FX35, nissan cube, etc.... I&#039;ll bet you that Mini is use MPG as their main attractor, which is fruitless bc its a car that cost significantly more than the competition... so financially, it doesnt make sense.  As a niche car, it might succeed.. but only by selling 2500 per year... but where&#039;s the money machine in that?  not to mention it is diluting the brand (and I do understand that back in the day they had a variant much like this, but times have changed).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;mini needs to abort this thing ASAP while it still can, and just focus on strengthening its core product line.  And by strengthening, I mean improve quality of materials, and better build...  perhaps even use some of that money to solve the infamous german electronic gremlins?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;just a suggestion.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, the thing is, if the r56 cabrio is already absurdly priced, imagine this thing.  Its going to be well into the $40K range, which by then you&#8217;d be better off with either an A3 or A4 wagon, or honda element, scion xB, honda crv, acura RDX, FX35, nissan cube, etc&#8230;. I&#8217;ll bet you that Mini is use MPG as their main attractor, which is fruitless bc its a car that cost significantly more than the competition&#8230; so financially, it doesnt make sense.  As a niche car, it might succeed.. but only by selling 2500 per year&#8230; but where&#8217;s the money machine in that?  not to mention it is diluting the brand (and I do understand that back in the day they had a variant much like this, but times have changed).</p>

<p>mini needs to abort this thing ASAP while it still can, and just focus on strengthening its core product line.  And by strengthening, I mean improve quality of materials, and better build&#8230;  perhaps even use some of that money to solve the infamous german electronic gremlins?</p>

<p>just a suggestion.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: GregW</title>
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		<dc:creator>GregW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Spot the difference...
http://images.google.co.nz/imgres?imgurl=http://www.top4wd.com/includes/images/Toyota_Rav4/1997ToyotaRav4.jpg&amp;imgrefurl=http://www.top4wd.com/1997ToyotaRav4.html&amp;usg=__mViJfMpD9ZcdngdcbgvBQUu-clc=&amp;h=270&amp;w=500&amp;sz=34&amp;hl=en&amp;start=11&amp;tbnid=-HmYV7b0rVJ6iM:&amp;tbnh=70&amp;tbnw=130&amp;prev=/images%3Fq%3DToyota%2BRAV4%2B4%2Bdoor%2Bmodel%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot the difference&#8230;
<a href="http://images.google.co.nz/imgres?imgurl=http://www.top4wd.com/includes/images/Toyota_Rav4/1997ToyotaRav4.jpg&#038;imgrefurl=http://www.top4wd.com/1997ToyotaRav4.html&#038;usg=__mViJfMpD9ZcdngdcbgvBQUu-clc=&#038;h=270&#038;w=500&#038;sz=34&#038;hl=en&#038;start=11&#038;tbnid=-HmYV7b0rVJ6iM:&#038;tbnh=70&#038;tbnw=130&#038;prev=/images%3Fq%3DToyota%2BRAV4%2B4%2Bdoor%2Bmodel%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG" rel="nofollow">http://images.google.co.nz/imgres?imgurl=http://www.top4wd.com/includes/images/Toyota_Rav4/1997ToyotaRav4.jpg&#038;imgrefurl=http://www.top4wd.com/1997ToyotaRav4.html&#038;usg=__mViJfMpD9ZcdngdcbgvBQUu-clc=&#038;h=270&#038;w=500&#038;sz=34&#038;hl=en&#038;start=11&#038;tbnid=-HmYV7b0rVJ6iM:&#038;tbnh=70&#038;tbnw=130&#038;prev=/images%3Fq%3DToyota%2BRAV4%2B4%2Bdoor%2Bmodel%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: GregW</title>
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		<dc:creator>GregW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You beat me to it - I thought this was a Toyota RAV4!
Is the rear boot area designed by Chris Bangle? - it seems to have his &quot;duvet cover bump&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You beat me to it &#8211; I thought this was a Toyota RAV4!
Is the rear boot area designed by Chris Bangle? &#8211; it seems to have his &#8220;duvet cover bump&#8221;.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: rs</title>
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		<dc:creator>rs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 21:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That thing had better do some wonderful stuff. Our next family mover will be smaller (coming from a Grand Cherokee), like the clubman. Enough to haul a family of 4 and our bags bags. Long gone are the days of excess.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If I wanted a RAV4 I would have bought a RAV4. I&#039;m sure it will be less expensive. The MINI Cooper/Clubman is a niche, that thing doesn&#039;t look like it fits in one. Again, it better do some wonderful stuff.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That thing had better do some wonderful stuff. Our next family mover will be smaller (coming from a Grand Cherokee), like the clubman. Enough to haul a family of 4 and our bags bags. Long gone are the days of excess.</p>

<p>If I wanted a RAV4 I would have bought a RAV4. I&#8217;m sure it will be less expensive. The MINI Cooper/Clubman is a niche, that thing doesn&#8217;t look like it fits in one. Again, it better do some wonderful stuff.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: SFRedMCc</title>
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		<dc:creator>SFRedMCc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 21:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Even though there are no other cars shown next to it, in these photos it appears the Crossman actually isn&#039;t going to be as big as the overblown concept/prototype they were showing.  It looks like they just added the 2.5&quot; to the Clubman&#039;s wheelbase so they would have enough room for 4 doors.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That swirly camouflage sure does a good job of hiding all the details, and the double rear doors seem to be a fake-out, since the rear window has only one wiper.  Looks like those funny vertical tail lights weren&#039;t included for final production.  I think the scariest looking thing are those monster headlights that have morphed from frog eyes to lizard eyes. Looks like that &quot;skull cap&quot; roof design was left in, and I think that is also a big mistake.
All-in-all, it still looks like it&#039;s going to be the &quot;smallest SAV&quot; on the market, so by today&#039;s standards, I guess you could call it the MINI-UTE.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though there are no other cars shown next to it, in these photos it appears the Crossman actually isn&#8217;t going to be as big as the overblown concept/prototype they were showing.  It looks like they just added the 2.5&#8243; to the Clubman&#8217;s wheelbase so they would have enough room for 4 doors.</p>

<p>That swirly camouflage sure does a good job of hiding all the details, and the double rear doors seem to be a fake-out, since the rear window has only one wiper.  Looks like those funny vertical tail lights weren&#8217;t included for final production.  I think the scariest looking thing are those monster headlights that have morphed from frog eyes to lizard eyes. Looks like that &#8220;skull cap&#8221; roof design was left in, and I think that is also a big mistake.
All-in-all, it still looks like it&#8217;s going to be the &#8220;smallest SAV&#8221; on the market, so by today&#8217;s standards, I guess you could call it the MINI-UTE.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: MINIme</title>
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		<dc:creator>MINIme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I volunteer to remove JonPD&#039;s badges from his GP, for free. As long as you don&#039;t mind my crude methods...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;MINI, like every other car manufacturer is looking to sustain itself.  This requires reinventing the wheel (pun intended) sometimes.  They cannot possibly cater to enthusiasts of an antiquated concept as a means of survival.  At least, not for the long haul.  My interest in a new MINI was sparked by my interest in the classic Mini, but they are distinctly different in so many ways.  I really enjoyed the ownership experience of my R53 and I do plan to acquire a classic Mini someday, as well as an R60.  I just don&#039;t get all the closed-minded, overzealous defenders of the &quot;genuine article&quot; known as the new MINI when it, in fact, started as nothing more than a look-back  attempt at capitalizing on the original Mini concept and ended up as a much larger, albeit premium compact.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I volunteer to remove JonPD&#8217;s badges from his GP, for free. As long as you don&#8217;t mind my crude methods&#8230;</p>

<p>MINI, like every other car manufacturer is looking to sustain itself.  This requires reinventing the wheel (pun intended) sometimes.  They cannot possibly cater to enthusiasts of an antiquated concept as a means of survival.  At least, not for the long haul.  My interest in a new MINI was sparked by my interest in the classic Mini, but they are distinctly different in so many ways.  I really enjoyed the ownership experience of my R53 and I do plan to acquire a classic Mini someday, as well as an R60.  I just don&#8217;t get all the closed-minded, overzealous defenders of the &#8220;genuine article&#8221; known as the new MINI when it, in fact, started as nothing more than a look-back  attempt at capitalizing on the original Mini concept and ended up as a much larger, albeit premium compact.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Im a noob to this Motoringfile and I&#039;m already sick of C4.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is a test mule, far from production and far from its final look.  No need to write it off yet.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This R60 could be a huge blunder for MINI, or..like some others here have stated, could be a great way to reach new demographics.  Its a good time to go for it, right now it seems that people love EVERYTHING MINI.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im a noob to this Motoringfile and I&#8217;m already sick of C4.</p>

<p>This is a test mule, far from production and far from its final look.  No need to write it off yet.</p>

<p>This R60 could be a huge blunder for MINI, or..like some others here have stated, could be a great way to reach new demographics.  Its a good time to go for it, right now it seems that people love EVERYTHING MINI.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: CraigE</title>
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		<dc:creator>CraigE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;you guys remember the 2-door rav4? remember that it didnt sell well during a booming economy?

wellâ€¦ apparently Mini product planners forgot about it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Well the R60 is pretty clearly a 4 door.  I don&#039;t see the connection.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>you guys remember the 2-door rav4? remember that it didnt sell well during a booming economy?

wellâ€¦ apparently Mini product planners forgot about it.</blockquote>

<p>Well the R60 is pretty clearly a 4 door.  I don&#8217;t see the connection.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Aussom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aussom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I second the idea of an AWD drivetrain for the Clubman, however being in a right-hand drive (RHD) market will only consider buying a Clubman if they change the suicide door to the left hand side for the RHD market. Having the suicide door behind the driver&#039;s door in the RHD market was the main deciding factor for me not buying a Clubman, as access to the back seats is dangerous and restricted. If the Crossover gets around this issue at a reasonable price and has more streamlined lines like the Clubman (including possible pop-out or vertically lowering rear window), I may consider buying one.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second the idea of an AWD drivetrain for the Clubman, however being in a right-hand drive (RHD) market will only consider buying a Clubman if they change the suicide door to the left hand side for the RHD market. Having the suicide door behind the driver&#8217;s door in the RHD market was the main deciding factor for me not buying a Clubman, as access to the back seats is dangerous and restricted. If the Crossover gets around this issue at a reasonable price and has more streamlined lines like the Clubman (including possible pop-out or vertically lowering rear window), I may consider buying one.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Capt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Capt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Final product will probably differ, but I agree an above reply, both in the prototype and in these shots, my mind sees: porsche cayenne&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Frankenstien&#039;s workshop? They stuck Clubman door handles on tailgate, but are much lower than a Club, looks like a poor head fake on the rear door overall (faux barn doors, 2 handles, but a single wiper...)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Not crazy about the shape in this or the prototype, but would like to see a 4 door/AWD MINI on the market that is tasteful.  Our 1 Clubman household is w/2 kids + 2 dogs and everyone fits thanks to the extended boot.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;However, we are in New England and a R60 would definintely be appreciated over the long winters and easier loading/unloading of kids.  My overall preference would be to have a traditional MINI for commuting and the R60 for family time if they can hit the right note on the design.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I believe Subaru was the only major car maker to increase US sales in &#039;08... AWD mini SUVs/Wagons are clearly in demand.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Final product will probably differ, but I agree an above reply, both in the prototype and in these shots, my mind sees: porsche cayenne</p>

<p>Frankenstien&#8217;s workshop? They stuck Clubman door handles on tailgate, but are much lower than a Club, looks like a poor head fake on the rear door overall (faux barn doors, 2 handles, but a single wiper&#8230;)</p>

<p>Not crazy about the shape in this or the prototype, but would like to see a 4 door/AWD MINI on the market that is tasteful.  Our 1 Clubman household is w/2 kids + 2 dogs and everyone fits thanks to the extended boot.</p>

<p>However, we are in New England and a R60 would definintely be appreciated over the long winters and easier loading/unloading of kids.  My overall preference would be to have a traditional MINI for commuting and the R60 for family time if they can hit the right note on the design.</p>

<p>I believe Subaru was the only major car maker to increase US sales in &#8217;08&#8230; AWD mini SUVs/Wagons are clearly in demand.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: dc11r</title>
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		<dc:creator>dc11r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 01:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;you guys remember the 2-door rav4?  remember that it didnt sell well during a booming economy?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;well... apparently Mini product planners forgot about it.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you guys remember the 2-door rav4?  remember that it didnt sell well during a booming economy?</p>

<p>well&#8230; apparently Mini product planners forgot about it.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 01:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I will wait to see the final product. MINI has clearly made a &quot;go&quot; call on this, so...I only hope that they&#039;ll put out a product that is marketable. I am NOT a fan of the Clubman, and to be honest, I&#039;d probably like the R60 more than a Clubman (I like full functionality and the suicide door and barn doors feels like a half-finished copout to me). I thought it had previously been reported that MINI was not going to put barn doors on the R60 and was reverting to the hatchback or going with a side hinged rear gate design. I really hope that they stick with that plan. Having said that, I am disappointed that MINI seems to be moving away from the original concept (from way back in the day) and from what made the R50 re-conceptualization so successful. It&#039;s fine to evolve the brand, just seems to me that they are making bad design decisions and developing cars that have fewer of the design elements that made the modern MINI a MINI.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;C4 - 50 comments, over 25% of them are from you. Great to read your opinion, but...you&#039;re kinda crying wolf here.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will wait to see the final product. MINI has clearly made a &#8220;go&#8221; call on this, so&#8230;I only hope that they&#8217;ll put out a product that is marketable. I am NOT a fan of the Clubman, and to be honest, I&#8217;d probably like the R60 more than a Clubman (I like full functionality and the suicide door and barn doors feels like a half-finished copout to me). I thought it had previously been reported that MINI was not going to put barn doors on the R60 and was reverting to the hatchback or going with a side hinged rear gate design. I really hope that they stick with that plan. Having said that, I am disappointed that MINI seems to be moving away from the original concept (from way back in the day) and from what made the R50 re-conceptualization so successful. It&#8217;s fine to evolve the brand, just seems to me that they are making bad design decisions and developing cars that have fewer of the design elements that made the modern MINI a MINI.</p>

<p>C4 &#8211; 50 comments, over 25% of them are from you. Great to read your opinion, but&#8230;you&#8217;re kinda crying wolf here.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: JonPD</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/02/16/mini-crossover-prototype-spied-undergoing-cold-weather-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-252748</link>
		<dc:creator>JonPD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 00:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Fred likely your other comment is in moderation, it happens to me from time to time due to character uses that could be spam so is held until a moderator can confirm.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Evan, I am not bashing anyone for saying this interests them. My personal unhappiness lays with some of the people at Mini that are willing to trash everything Sir Alec stood for and throwing the historical precedence into the garbage bin. While there are some things on the concept R60 I think are not bad designs, I choke thinking that Mini really needs a SUV. Also with the 1 series SUV there is likely to be so much overlap on the price point alone that a huge number that would consider a Mini SUV will go for the tiny bit larger 1 series that will be a few thousand more.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred likely your other comment is in moderation, it happens to me from time to time due to character uses that could be spam so is held until a moderator can confirm.</p>

<p>Evan, I am not bashing anyone for saying this interests them. My personal unhappiness lays with some of the people at Mini that are willing to trash everything Sir Alec stood for and throwing the historical precedence into the garbage bin. While there are some things on the concept R60 I think are not bad designs, I choke thinking that Mini really needs a SUV. Also with the 1 series SUV there is likely to be so much overlap on the price point alone that a huge number that would consider a Mini SUV will go for the tiny bit larger 1 series that will be a few thousand more.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/02/16/mini-crossover-prototype-spied-undergoing-cold-weather-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-252747</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 00:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Duplicate comment detected; it looks as though you&#039;ve already said that!&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Interesting, then, that my comment does not show-up online.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Okay, I will say something more exciting:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Oh, yeah? Well, so&#039;s your old man! You little girl!&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Duplicate comment detected; it looks as though you&#8217;ve already said that!&#8221;</p>

<p>Interesting, then, that my comment does not show-up online.</p>

<p>Okay, I will say something more exciting:</p>

<p>&#8220;Oh, yeah? Well, so&#8217;s your old man! You little girl!&#8221;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: robble</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/02/16/mini-crossover-prototype-spied-undergoing-cold-weather-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-252743</link>
		<dc:creator>robble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;. I have purchased thousands of dollars worth of products and services&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(with mini)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;hasn&#039;t everyone who had bought a MINI? We are all experts by that measure.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>. I have purchased thousands of dollars worth of products and services</blockquote>

<p>(with mini)</p>

<p>hasn&#8217;t everyone who had bought a MINI? We are all experts by that measure.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
		<link>http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/02/16/mini-crossover-prototype-spied-undergoing-cold-weather-testing/comment-page-1/#comment-252741</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I actually like it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There, I said it. I&#039;d have it next to my &#039;04 R50 Cooper. It&#039;s four inches longer than a Clubman, which is still wicked short. And it&#039;s a little taller, with four easy to use doors. It&#039;ll be more practical than the hatch and a 128i. Even if the price will bump a well equipped 1er. My next car purchase will need to account for a dog and child, pushing the limit of MINI Cooper.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not sorry that I like it. A diesel version w/AWD may be the ticket. Or an S version w/sports suspension.... BRG, black roof, 18&quot; wheels.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If it&#039;s a fall debut at Frankfurt, will it be in the USA around March 2010?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Although, I still love the Clubman. Especially now that I could get the JCW Stage I kit for it. Show me the 2010 update and I&#039;ll tell you my decision...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually like it.</p>

<p>There, I said it. I&#8217;d have it next to my &#8217;04 R50 Cooper. It&#8217;s four inches longer than a Clubman, which is still wicked short. And it&#8217;s a little taller, with four easy to use doors. It&#8217;ll be more practical than the hatch and a 128i. Even if the price will bump a well equipped 1er. My next car purchase will need to account for a dog and child, pushing the limit of MINI Cooper.</p>

<p>I&#8217;m not sorry that I like it. A diesel version w/AWD may be the ticket. Or an S version w/sports suspension&#8230;. BRG, black roof, 18&#8243; wheels.</p>

<p>If it&#8217;s a fall debut at Frankfurt, will it be in the USA around March 2010?</p>

<p>Although, I still love the Clubman. Especially now that I could get the JCW Stage I kit for it. Show me the 2010 update and I&#8217;ll tell you my decision&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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