Comments on: MINI Releases Full JCW World Championship 50 Specifications http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/05/25/mini-releases-full-jcw-world-championship-50-specifications/ MINI Cooper news, reviews and opinion. Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:20:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Ian F http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/05/25/mini-releases-full-jcw-world-championship-50-specifications/comment-page-1/#comment-261192 Ian F Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:38:53 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/?p=9313#comment-261192 <p>Oh well... if it was closer to the GP's $31K pricing (if not the unique performance & appearance differences), I would have been seriously interested... pretty much on the color alone... but $50K+ is more than I can afford in my wildest dreams, MINI or any car...</p> <p>I suppose I can take some comfort in the fact it's unlikely the car will sold in the US anyway...</p> Oh well… if it was closer to the GP’s $31K pricing (if not the unique performance & appearance differences), I would have been seriously interested… pretty much on the color alone… but $50K+ is more than I can afford in my wildest dreams, MINI or any car…

I suppose I can take some comfort in the fact it’s unlikely the car will sold in the US anyway…

]]> By: MotoringFile » Archive » MF Week in Review http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/05/25/mini-releases-full-jcw-world-championship-50-specifications/comment-page-1/#comment-260984 MotoringFile » Archive » MF Week in Review Sun, 31 May 2009 15:29:48 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/?p=9313#comment-260984 <p>[...] MINI UK Releases Full WC50 Specs [...]</p> [...] MINI UK Releases Full WC50 Specs [...]

]]> By: JonPD http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/05/25/mini-releases-full-jcw-world-championship-50-specifications/comment-page-1/#comment-260747 JonPD Wed, 27 May 2009 21:10:09 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/?p=9313#comment-260747 <p>Agreed there Matt, at the end of the day the WC50 while being a good color is more or less just a JCW Mini. The GP will always be the GP. Just wished when they decided to bring JCW out as a sub-brand that they would have built off the GP. In a great many ways the factory car still screams kit to me although I do know the mechanical are unique. However one small advance is still that the WC50 looks different than other Mini's which is still light years beyond the JCW Mini.</p> <p>Still think Mini really blew the chance to make JCW stand for something special like the /M division does for BMW. You never get a second chance to make a first impression and what Mini gave us is a performance car that looks like every other Mini and has sub-par handling for a performance model car.</p> Agreed there Matt, at the end of the day the WC50 while being a good color is more or less just a JCW Mini. The GP will always be the GP. Just wished when they decided to bring JCW out as a sub-brand that they would have built off the GP. In a great many ways the factory car still screams kit to me although I do know the mechanical are unique. However one small advance is still that the WC50 looks different than other Mini’s which is still light years beyond the JCW Mini.

Still think Mini really blew the chance to make JCW stand for something special like the /M division does for BMW. You never get a second chance to make a first impression and what Mini gave us is a performance car that looks like every other Mini and has sub-par handling for a performance model car.

]]> By: Dr Obnxs http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/05/25/mini-releases-full-jcw-world-championship-50-specifications/comment-page-1/#comment-260737 Dr Obnxs Wed, 27 May 2009 18:59:12 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/?p=9313#comment-260737 <p>Exclusivity doesn't mean sales. Just look at how the MC40 went. Yes this will be a factory exculsive and will appeal to many who want a rare car, but it's also true that this won't appeal at all to most of those that bought the GP. That was exclusive, and had more than just bolt ons to make it unique.</p> <p>I come from the world of Mustangs, and there were several applique "limited runs" (High country special, GTCS) and while these command a slight premium, they are nowhere close to what a Shelby Mustang commands at auction.</p> <p>The GP has more of a chance of Shelby like appreciation, (It's not a slam dunk, but it's a real non-zero chance) I don't see this one as making that cut, nor the Camden or Mayfaire or the MC40 or any other "cosmetic" limited production model.</p> <p>Matt</p> Exclusivity doesn’t mean sales. Just look at how the MC40 went. Yes this will be a factory exculsive and will appeal to many who want a rare car, but it’s also true that this won’t appeal at all to most of those that bought the GP. That was exclusive, and had more than just bolt ons to make it unique.

I come from the world of Mustangs, and there were several applique “limited runs” (High country special, GTCS) and while these command a slight premium, they are nowhere close to what a Shelby Mustang commands at auction.

The GP has more of a chance of Shelby like appreciation, (It’s not a slam dunk, but it’s a real non-zero chance) I don’t see this one as making that cut, nor the Camden or Mayfaire or the MC40 or any other “cosmetic” limited production model.

Matt

]]> By: Bilbo Baggins http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/05/25/mini-releases-full-jcw-world-championship-50-specifications/comment-page-1/#comment-260730 Bilbo Baggins Wed, 27 May 2009 18:25:14 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/?p=9313#comment-260730 <p>I did not see one, single, modification to improve the performance of the car. All just stuff for show, none for GO. Very disappointed.</p> <p>I always associated JCW with performance mods. It is a shame that the name has been perverted.</p> <p>It would seem as though one of the earlier posters got it right. They are just clearing out the closets and shelves of everything that hasn't sold.</p> <p>It would do more honor to the JCW name to have it a real preformance Special. Boosted power, lighter wheels, stickier tires, improved adjustable suspension better seats, better brakes. Why not something similar to a Porsche Club Sport. Just things that make it GO!</p> I did not see one, single, modification to improve the performance of the car. All just stuff for show, none for GO. Very disappointed.

I always associated JCW with performance mods. It is a shame that the name has been perverted.

It would seem as though one of the earlier posters got it right. They are just clearing out the closets and shelves of everything that hasn’t sold.

It would do more honor to the JCW name to have it a real preformance Special. Boosted power, lighter wheels, stickier tires, improved adjustable suspension better seats, better brakes. Why not something similar to a Porsche Club Sport. Just things that make it GO!

]]> By: JonPD http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/05/25/mini-releases-full-jcw-world-championship-50-specifications/comment-page-1/#comment-260718 JonPD Wed, 27 May 2009 14:21:47 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/?p=9313#comment-260718 <p>Ted whining about whining is a unique approach.</p> <p>I for one think that the very limited numbers of this car will help it sell better than the JCW Mini has by far although both cars are still somewhat of a joke due to the lack of a performance suspension in a performance car. Still much happier with this development than either of the special edition 50th cars.</p> Ted whining about whining is a unique approach.

I for one think that the very limited numbers of this car will help it sell better than the JCW Mini has by far although both cars are still somewhat of a joke due to the lack of a performance suspension in a performance car. Still much happier with this development than either of the special edition 50th cars.

]]> By: Ted http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/05/25/mini-releases-full-jcw-world-championship-50-specifications/comment-page-1/#comment-260703 Ted Wed, 27 May 2009 10:22:37 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/?p=9313#comment-260703 <p>Perhaps changing the name from Motoringfile to "Bunch of Bit-ches" would fit. Quit all the whining! Just because you won't buy this car doesn't mean it won't sell!</p> Perhaps changing the name from Motoringfile to “Bunch of Bit-ches” would fit. Quit all the whining! Just because you won’t buy this car doesn’t mean it won’t sell!

]]> By: M_POWER http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/05/25/mini-releases-full-jcw-world-championship-50-specifications/comment-page-1/#comment-260694 M_POWER Wed, 27 May 2009 07:22:22 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/?p=9313#comment-260694 <p>Gabe, any idea if those 17" challenge spokes will be available in jet black like on F1 for US market as an option/upgrade for JCW Hardtop? Later this year/early next/ever? Thanks!</p> Gabe, any idea if those 17″ challenge spokes will be available in jet black like on F1 for US market as an option/upgrade for JCW Hardtop? Later this year/early next/ever? Thanks!

]]> By: bee1000 http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/05/25/mini-releases-full-jcw-world-championship-50-specifications/comment-page-1/#comment-260615 bee1000 Tue, 26 May 2009 17:06:59 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/?p=9313#comment-260615 <p>I don't understand why someone would spend $30,000 on a Mini, so what chance do I have of comprehending the thought process behind spending 30,000 pounds on one?!</p> I don’t understand why someone would spend $30,000 on a Mini, so what chance do I have of comprehending the thought process behind spending 30,000 pounds on one?!

]]> By: JonPD http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/05/25/mini-releases-full-jcw-world-championship-50-specifications/comment-page-1/#comment-260612 JonPD Tue, 26 May 2009 16:50:00 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/?p=9313#comment-260612 <p>For me the exclusion of the JCW Recaro's and JCW suspension while both able to be dealt with just says volumes about the mindset of Mini about the development.</p> <p>Heck even the used to be big three know you don't turn out a performance car without upgrading the suspension. I just wish Mini would go wild and make a true /M kind of a car instead of these half-measured wannabe performance cars.</p> <p>I also have to agree that this is still the best exterior look that I have seen on any R56 Mini.</p> For me the exclusion of the JCW Recaro’s and JCW suspension while both able to be dealt with just says volumes about the mindset of Mini about the development.

Heck even the used to be big three know you don’t turn out a performance car without upgrading the suspension. I just wish Mini would go wild and make a true /M kind of a car instead of these half-measured wannabe performance cars.

I also have to agree that this is still the best exterior look that I have seen on any R56 Mini.

]]> By: CraigE http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/05/25/mini-releases-full-jcw-world-championship-50-specifications/comment-page-1/#comment-260605 CraigE Tue, 26 May 2009 15:42:04 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/?p=9313#comment-260605 <p>I guess some of you don't understand exclusivity. Sure there are a lot of cars in the $50,000 range. However, with the WC50 you can be assured that you will never see another on the road. It's extremely rare to see a JCW GP and there were 2000 made. There will only be 250 WC50s.</p> <p>Sure you can paint a MINI in non metallic BRG but it will never be factory original. In a collector's car like this, being original and unmodified is worth a lot.</p> <p>Because of this, I agree that it was a huge mistake to not install the JCW suspension. If it were installed as stock, then it would be perfect and need no modification. When you are in this price range an extra $2000-3000 won't break the bank.</p> I guess some of you don’t understand exclusivity. Sure there are a lot of cars in the $50,000 range. However, with the WC50 you can be assured that you will never see another on the road. It’s extremely rare to see a JCW GP and there were 2000 made. There will only be 250 WC50s.

Sure you can paint a MINI in non metallic BRG but it will never be factory original. In a collector’s car like this, being original and unmodified is worth a lot.

Because of this, I agree that it was a huge mistake to not install the JCW suspension. If it were installed as stock, then it would be perfect and need no modification. When you are in this price range an extra $2000-3000 won’t break the bank.

]]> By: Dr Obnxs http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/05/25/mini-releases-full-jcw-world-championship-50-specifications/comment-page-1/#comment-260604 Dr Obnxs Tue, 26 May 2009 15:39:31 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/?p=9313#comment-260604 <p>Just because MINI is going to charge a premium for a limited production model doesn't mean that you can't buy an unoptioned for low dollars. If this brings in profits for the rest of the company... So be it.</p> <p>Yeah, it should have been a GP like model, but it isn't.... So can we get over it and move on?</p> <p>Matt</p> Just because MINI is going to charge a premium for a limited production model doesn’t mean that you can’t buy an unoptioned for low dollars. If this brings in profits for the rest of the company… So be it.

Yeah, it should have been a GP like model, but it isn’t…. So can we get over it and move on?

Matt

]]> By: Toni http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/05/25/mini-releases-full-jcw-world-championship-50-specifications/comment-page-1/#comment-260603 Toni Tue, 26 May 2009 15:29:17 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/?p=9313#comment-260603 <p>Two used 2007 Mini GPs going for 32900€ (#0375, driven 9000km) and 34900€ (#0909, driven 12000km) in Finland. I'm hopefully soon getting word about JCW WC50 price/availability.</p> Two used 2007 Mini GPs going for 32900€ (#0375, driven 9000km) and 34900€ (#0909, driven 12000km) in Finland. I’m hopefully soon getting word about JCW WC50 price/availability.

]]> By: Rob http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/05/25/mini-releases-full-jcw-world-championship-50-specifications/comment-page-1/#comment-260596 Rob Tue, 26 May 2009 13:28:57 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/?p=9313#comment-260596 <p>There are people out there willing to pay $60K for a MINI and MINI? MINI you would actually charge $55-60K for one of you cars? Shame on you! I guess MINI is completely changing there target demographic. MINI, I've been a loyal owner for the past 6 years but you just lost me! Do you have any idea what kind of competition there is in the $50K range? Look at your parent company first. Sorry for the rant.</p> There are people out there willing to pay $60K for a MINI and MINI? MINI you would actually charge $55-60K for one of you cars? Shame on you! I guess MINI is completely changing there target demographic. MINI, I’ve been a loyal owner for the past 6 years but you just lost me! Do you have any idea what kind of competition there is in the $50K range? Look at your parent company first. Sorry for the rant.

]]> By: Mark Talkington http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/05/25/mini-releases-full-jcw-world-championship-50-specifications/comment-page-1/#comment-260594 Mark Talkington Tue, 26 May 2009 13:20:27 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/?p=9313#comment-260594 <p>bears.</p> bears.

]]> By: Aitor http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/05/25/mini-releases-full-jcw-world-championship-50-specifications/comment-page-1/#comment-260588 Aitor Tue, 26 May 2009 12:33:09 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/?p=9313#comment-260588 <p>Isn't the wheels the R113 in black 18''?¿ Didn't look as 17''....</p> Isn’t the wheels the R113 in black 18”?¿ Didn’t look as 17”….

]]> By: Larry http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/05/25/mini-releases-full-jcw-world-championship-50-specifications/comment-page-1/#comment-260587 Larry Tue, 26 May 2009 12:21:25 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/?p=9313#comment-260587 <p>This car is for collectors or for people that just enjoy unique cars! And most of these kinds of people would pay whatever for this MINI....trust me, I have 6 deposits right now and each person says they will pay up to $60k for the MINI F1!</p> This car is for collectors or for people that just enjoy unique cars! And most of these kinds of people would pay whatever for this MINI….trust me, I have 6 deposits right now and each person says they will pay up to $60k for the MINI F1!

]]> By: mp http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/05/25/mini-releases-full-jcw-world-championship-50-specifications/comment-page-1/#comment-260575 mp Tue, 26 May 2009 03:04:24 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/?p=9313#comment-260575 <p>"Universal Remote Control"</p> <p>I think this is not really a car it's just a $55,000 universal remote for a TV</p> <p>Seriously what is this? What makes it universal?</p> “Universal Remote Control”

I think this is not really a car it’s just a $55,000 universal remote for a TV

Seriously what is this? What makes it universal?

]]> By: Pete http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/05/25/mini-releases-full-jcw-world-championship-50-specifications/comment-page-1/#comment-260571 Pete Tue, 26 May 2009 02:22:51 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/?p=9313#comment-260571 <p>At 40,000 Euro, which by today's calculations equates to about $55,600, MINI is stoned. There are a lot of other cars that would appeal to me if I was going to spend that kind of money. Sorry guys, you have lost the scent!</p> At 40,000 Euro, which by today’s calculations equates to about $55,600, MINI is stoned. There are a lot of other cars that would appeal to me if I was going to spend that kind of money. Sorry guys, you have lost the scent!

]]> By: MK!R53 http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/05/25/mini-releases-full-jcw-world-championship-50-specifications/comment-page-1/#comment-260570 MK!R53 Tue, 26 May 2009 01:52:32 +0000 http://www.motoringfile.com/?p=9313#comment-260570 <p>they could stick an 8-track cartridge player in it and i would still want one. This is the best looking R56 i have seen yet.</p> they could stick an 8-track cartridge player in it and i would still want one. This is the best looking R56 i have seen yet.

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