Comments on: Auto Sport Tests the JCW at the ‘Ring

By: DUDE!

DUDE! — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:04:18 +0000

Wo ist Hans Stuck? Slap that man in the seat, give it the JCW suspension and who knows what could happen!

By: Peter

Peter — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:41:35 +0000

@carlos sorry to hear no one at your dealer could explain the difference. we are able (and glad) to thoroughly explain the differences!!

great article...makes me proud to own a 2009 JCW (DS/Black) - alta intake on the way, need to do suspension.

PS: i have the sport suspension - time to take it to the 'ring!

By: Hobbe

Hobbe — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:23:37 +0000

Stock R53, first version(163PS), did 8:55 in a very similar test back in the days.

By: Carlos Rangel

Carlos Rangel — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:42:45 +0000

I have a JCW 2009 and I really donÂ´t know, and @ the dealer nobody could clarify me the difference i would have with the JCW sport suspension…I already bought the strut brace…and I love the handling

By: WxSquid

WxSquid — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:46:11 +0000

As one of the many that sent this in, I got hooked on the Supertest from when the new M3 hit the streets. They try to be as close to similar (driver- and course-wise) on the tests (weather is an excluded factor, as they test all year – if your car tests on a day with damp spots, sorry – but they note that in the test write up).

The basic rules are stock, and stock only – if you, the average joe, can tick the check box (in Germany, I believe), then they will use it. Ergo, no dealer (ie: JCW suspenstion) add-ons are allowed. Also, factory-ordered rubber.

By: WxSquid

WxSquid — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:44:55 +0000

As one of the many that sent this in, I got hooked on the Supertest from when the new M3 hit the streets. They try to be as close to similar on the tests (weather is an excluded factor, as they test all year – if your car tests on a day with damp spots, sorry – but they note that in the test write up).

By: that.guy

that.guy — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:01:29 +0000

VW R32: 8:49

Weak sauce.

By: Gabe

Gabe — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:46:47 +0000

@greg: No I meant above in our article. It was mentioned briefly. BTW I believe SS comes standard on the JCW in Germany.

By: Jason Williams

Jason Williams — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:21:18 +0000

Anybody know what the GP did round the ring?

By: greg

greg — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:13:33 +0000

@Gabe. As previously stated I barely read english much less german. Surprised to hear it had SS as they usually don’t bother. This is very impressive indeed.

By: JonPD

JonPD — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:44:51 +0000

Decent article, missing a little meat but still a fun read.

Now just imagine if Mini would have put a decent suspension (JCW) on the car by default. Still good results. Still a nice lap at 8:35

By: Axel Griesinger

Axel Griesinger — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:34:29 +0000

@gabe: yes the sport suspension. but this is the standard sport suspension from any cooper s in germany. so the testcar (tested july 2008) was not fitted with a JCW suspension. in fact the setup from the r56 (suspension and DSC) is much better then from the r53. i tested it on the ring in 2007 with the 192hp version. in comparsion to my r52 jcw fitted with KW version 2 and non-RFT i really had to fight to drive as fast as the r56 fitted with the JCW kit.

By: Gabe

Gabe — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:03:57 +0000

@greg: As stated in the article it ad the sport suspension.

By: Kevin Bleicher

Kevin Bleicher — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:58:54 +0000

Use Google translate ;-)

http://translate.google.com/translate_t?hl=en#

Well, on second thought, maybe not. It’s pretty funny though…

By: nickminir56

nickminir56 — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:58:44 +0000

In theory JCW has already beaten Z4 and Exige: JCW uses factory Conti SportContact 3 summer tire(normal road tire), where Exige use semi-slick Yokohama (or club-sport tire). Semi-slick tire alone can save A LOT more than 3 seconds.

By: greg

greg — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:24:24 +0000

Anyone out there who can sprechen zi deutch please give us the reader’s digest version. This is very cool!

By: eager2own

eager2own — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:12:16 +0000

Wow — that close to the Z4 and Exige?!! That is great news.

By: greg

greg — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:07:40 +0000

Now THIS is the kind of thread I like. The JCW basically tied the Exige??? I have yet to read the article but the question we always have to ask in JCW articles is what suspension set up? Since this usually is not addressed we are left wondering “what if”.