Comments on: BMW 0 Series to be Based on Next Generation MINI?

By: BMW

BMW — Fri, 21 May 2010 04:31:41 +0000

Hiii Couldnâ€™t we just get the 1-series hatchback?

joseph BMW

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By: Dave Pevsner

Dave Pevsner — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:35:19 +0000

it's funny that they decide to make a 0-series based off of mini parts, because i used to joke about badging my mini as a 016ci to make people more aware of all of the BMW sitting under the skin of the car, to go along with the ///M badge on my steering wheel. now i can do that without being called a poser.

and i'm all for a BMW that handles like a mini but doesn't wear a disguise. the mini's handling is awesome, and people who insist on owning "real" badged BMWs are going to love it once they try it.

By: Dr Obnxs

Dr Obnxs — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:35:20 +0000

Lavarda, they built 2 (or 4) cars total I think. That's far from a fully engineered production effort.

And as far as what car family it belongs to, that will be done by styling. Over the next 5-10 years, all the brands are going to morph. Porsche is doing a hybrid of the SUV and the Panamerica. BMW will do a lot to change what they are now into what they need to be in the future. The US is going to have car size shrink. For those that aren't into the long history of BMW, for the newbies what makes a BMW is the bragging rights and the grill/badge. Many owners don't really care what's under the sheet metal. (Last week, I was getting a new low beam bulb at an auto parts store. It's next to one of those fast in fast out allignement shops. They had a 750i and Z3 3.0 up on lifts getting serviced. Those owners obviously don't really care about things automotive, as is true for many who buy BMWs and Mercedes.)

Matt

By: lavardera

lavardera — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:21:31 +0000

The size and the cost would separate it from the 1 series. You are talking a B class vs C class size car. I’ve no idea what they will do, but using RWD would keep it firmly in the BMW family, and clearly not in the Mini family. A FWD car is just going to get everybody upset. As upset as, say, a Mini SUV maybe?

By: Chris Tuveson

Chris Tuveson — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:31:22 +0000

Although that is true (and that car was fast, very fast, despite the added weight), it was also deemed to expensive to mass produce. I suspect for fuel economy, and cost of production factors, it would make more sense for this to be FWD. That would also further separate it from the 1 series, which I think would be desirable on BMW’s part….

By: lavardera

lavardera — Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19:37:43 +0000

Interior space compromised because of the drive shaft? Not so. Gertrag built a test of concept 4wd R53 that put the drive shaft and exhaust down the existing tunnel in the Mini. For crying out loud, this is not 1969 detroit.

By: D.Ilse

D.Ilse — Sun, 11 Oct 2009 10:22:36 +0000

if MPG were the issue, we could/SHOULD have gotten the 120d or 123d models.

At the moment I am more interested in what the Mk.VI Tdi will look like,options and price than this future fluke. Plus BMW_NA is notorious for not supporting anything that's outside the Lux-O-box and performance image...and less in the current gens(e9X) of the performance image.

By: D.Ilse

D.Ilse — Sun, 11 Oct 2009 10:15:56 +0000

I still love my 95 318ti Club Sport(one of the few, 200made in Oct/Nov '95)

but this I don't know, I would rather have the Benz A/B Class here with a good diesel motor. vs a rebadged Mini made for yuppies.

By: Dr Obnxs

Dr Obnxs — Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:58:39 +0000

There's something else at play here. I think the car will come to the US (if made) and here's why. Up until now BMW has just cut the EPA a check for not making fleet mileage numbers. The EPA is saying that practice will end (we'll see if they follow through). For makers like BMW and Mercedes, that means smaller engine options, and smaller car options. (To me this is great! I would have loved to get the 1 series 5 door hatch here, and this mandate will make that more likely.)

I also think it makes good marketing sense. Get more buyers to be BMW brand loyalists at a lower price point, and grow what one sells them as thier wealth grows. Now to start into a BMW means that you have a pretty good job if you're young...

Also, FWD or RWD, I'd vote for FWD otherwise there will be little cabin space, the tunnel would be large for both the driveshaft and the exhaust. But time will tell, for now this is just vaporware.

Matt

By: Sean

Sean — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 22:25:36 +0000

Such an exercise in brand dilution brings my BMW enthusiasm to a standstill. Frankly this is what MINI is for and the distinctions are valueble. The Isetta/Project i should be a distinct product as well.

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By: Ronald Campbell

Ronald Campbell — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 11:59:18 +0000

I think we would all be more happy about this BMW if we could get the MINI One or D in the states. FWD is okay on a MINI, but not on a BMW?

By: RJ

RJ — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 01:10:56 +0000

Mk1 – ah yes…another excellent point…..you are correct….odd that the more fuel efficient MINIs aren’t available here.

By: Mk1

Mk1 — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:10:48 +0000

I like your thinking JR, but if if that was the case with BMW, we’d be able to buy the MINI One (60 mpg) in the U.S.

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By: IT WRKS

IT WRKS — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:22:03 +0000

If this would supposedly share parts with MINI there would be economies of scale met so the volume would potentially be spread across the two brands and different variants built on this platform or use of shared parts. Therefore you can keep the volume at a point where you do not flood the market but at the same time cover enough of the market to make a profit.

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