It’s taken a few months, but Road & Track has finally put Peter Egan’s excellent article about picking up his new MCS online. For those that aren’t familiar with Mr. Egan, his columns in R&T are generally regarded as some of the finest you’ll find in any automotive publication. Here’s an excerpt:
“Good news, Peter! Your Mini Cooper S is in, and it’s ready to go,” said the British-inflected voice over the telephone last Friday morning.
…”Great!” I said. “I’ll be over this afternoon to pick it up.”
…This distance between the dealership and our house was probably one of the reasons it took me so long to make up my mind about buying the car, even though I’d spent two years poring over Mini brochures. With the service department 90 miles away, you can pretty much cross a full day off your calendar if the “check engine” light comes on. Maybe two days.
Still my five or six Mini-owning friends scattered around the country had reported almost zero problems with their cars, so I decided to go out on a limb and get the car I really wanted, rather than one that was merely easy to buy and service.
…The Cooper S was so much fun to drive, I wondered why I’d waited so long to buy one. It was comfortable, dead flat in corners, quick as a go kart in steering and it accelerated in silken bursts of energy. The short-throw shifter clicked effortlessly from one gear to the next, and the seat, pedals and steering wheel were perfectly placed for me.
And the car had real charm and personality. I liked looking at it and, obviously, so did other people. When you parked at a gas station, other motorists getting out of their cars positively beamed at you and went out of their way to say hello, like long lost friends. Frank Stephenson had done a good job of styling the thing – he captured the cheerful friendliness of the original Mini, but also its underlying seriousness as a performance car.
As I sat at my window table, sipping the Manhattan and looking out at the car in the parking lot, it occurred to me that the Mini covered so many bases and filled so much of the performance/aesthetic territory I carry around in my own psyche, that my penchant for collecting and restoring hopelessly shot old British cars from the ’50s and ’60s might be endangered. What if the new Mini was the only car I really needed?
A terrible thought, yet strangely liberating. We’d see. Addictions die hard.
<p>Sweet :)</p>
<p>nice article. 🙂 Makes me want to go for a nice “leisurely” cruise.</p>
<p>excellent article, thanks for posting it.</p>
<p>Peter Egan is one of my favorite automotive journalists. He just scored an extra point ;)</p>
<p>beautifully written.
i dare say all of us experienced what he felt in our own little way.
no car i have owned, or not owned, could ever evoke these emotions… </p>
<p>Thanks for posting this, Gabe!</p>
<p>Yes, it is amazing to see published, the logistics that most of us MINI owners have had to endure to get their cars from distant dealerships. Perhaps that is yet another thing that bonds all of us MINI owners together somehow…</p>
<p>EVEN THOUGH MY 2002 BRG COOPER had been through two new transmissions, stranded me and put on a truck to the dealer three times, eaten an alternator, needed a new windshield, and been to the dealer on averge every three months for all kinds of, I still love it. I look at it and think it is a great little car. I love driving it, looking at it, washing it. It needs to go to the dealer again now for a squeeky shifter and they just fixed that three months ago. The dealer is close but it still takes a 1/2 day to deal with. EVEN WITH all these hassles I look at it and it makes me happy. </p>
<p>Is there such a thing as a dysfunctional car relationship?</p>
<p>MINIs make me so happy I even bought a 2004 MCS for my partner last year and have ordered a 2005 MCS with the automatic for myself to replace the Cooper. I actually get kind of sad thinking the Cooper will go away. Is there a MINIs Anonymous?</p>
<p>OK – after going to my local MINI dealership (BMW San Francisco) and drooling on the Cooper S, being exited that at 6’2″, I fit comfortably in it – way better than my Jeep Wrangler, and trying to get past the arrogance of the sales staff, I’m still considering making the purchase sometime this year.
My question: Since the sales-guy greeted me with the “There’s an additional $2K tagged on to the price”, can those of you who have bought MINIs in the Bay Area share your experiences?
I can literally walk to this dealership from my house, but I’ll be damned if I’m going to establish a relationship with people that don’t value their customers.
Thanks.</p>
<p>I think it might be that you went to a BMW dealership, and not an actual MINI dealership. Every time I go in, every person I come across is very accomodating. These are guys I could simply see myself hanging out with if I had a free afternoon!</p>
<p>That being said, I can’t wait until my wife and I get rid of our debt (this May), so I can put my order in for a 2005 MCSa! I’m really quite excited; the MA that I will be dealing with told me about this site, so that’s how I found out about it. I guess this is sort of an introduction, as well. So, hello! In any event, I can’t wait to get my Cooper S. Seems like June can’t come soon enough!</p>
<p>Ramon,</p>
<p>No Bay Area experience here… but I just wanted to say – screw ’em… shop around. If a dealership charges OVER MSRP then they don’t deserve your business. Mine charged MSRP… not great, but considering how popular the MINIs are, I was happy they didn’t jack it up further. I suggest you expand your dealership search a little wider, it’s worth the extra drive to find a more understanding dealership.</p>
<p>Doesn’t mean you can’t use that dealership for service & warranty repair, if you want to… buy anywhere, service at any MINI dealership, right?</p>
<p>Gabe, does Patrick MINI still sell and ship cars at MSRP?</p>
<p>Peter Egan is the whole reason I subscribe to R&T. It’s been fun reading his building sense of curiousity about the MINI the past year in his columns. You just knew it was coming sooner or later.</p>
<p>I bought both MINIs at MINI of Concord in the East Bay. I live in Oakland, CA. I did some research before I ordered my 2005 (due in June) from them. </p>
<p>SF MINI is very snotty and they charge a big mark ups over MSRP. I have a friend with a MCS who says their service dept is terrible. </p>
<p>MINI of Concord is great with a great staff and the best service. I know I have been there plenty (See above posting). They also have a markup of $2600 on an MCS and still a wait of three to four months. East Bay MINI in Danville sells at MSRP but have a 10-12 month wait for an MCS. A little shorter for a Cooper.</p>
<p>Long Beach MINI in Southern CA sells at MSRP and is the only one to do so but they also have 8-10 month wait for a car. </p>
<p>Sacramento MINI can get you a car in three months but again about a $2500 mark-up. </p>
<p>The two dealers in CA that sell at MSRP have long waits so it is either by out of state or pay a premium. It costs about $1000-1400 to ship one across the country. I looked into that too. Severla dealers back east sell at MSRP.</p>
<p>Last I saw, regarding Matt’s posting… Patrick MINI outside of Chicago does still sell at MSRP and does still ship out of state. My MA there was John G. Ask for him if you’d like, as I know he personally has done quite a bit of out of state delivery. Many to California too. </p>
<p>No dealership should act like they are doing you a favor to sell you a car. You are still the one doing them a favor, period. Talk to the GM of the dealership if you need to. Otherwise, call Patrick MINI in Chicagoland. 847-333-MINI I think? :o)</p>
<p>Excellent article. </p>
<p>It’s these kinds of opinions (shared by so many here on MF) that gave me the confidence to buy our Mini. We are a day away from the dealership, including a Ferry ride with a 1 hour minimum wait time to and fro. </p>
<p>As much as I have read about horror stories like Damon’s I’ve also read enough other owner-stories to feel confident that the Mini overall isn’t problematic, just certain cars — which is to be expected with any vehicle line.</p>
<p>Yes Patrick MINI sells at MSRP and will ship (for a very reasonable rate) anywhere in the US. I believe they have a 2-3 month wait on cars at the moment.</p>
<p>They are also longtime supporters of MotoringFile, which in my book, is another reason that they are worth buying from :-)</p>
<p>Mr. Egan’s “Side Glances” column has been my favorite part of Road and Track for years, since it first appeared in 1983(?).</p>
<p>I bought my MINI from Patrick MINI, paid MSRP, waited exactly 2 months, and I couldn’t be happier. Chuck Amenta was my MA and was very accommodating. </p>
<p>GSK, the number is actually (847)303-MINI (according to my keychain…lol).</p>
<p>I am picking-up our MCS from Julie Saxa at Classic Mini in Mentor, Ohio (440-26-6700) on Feb. 23. My experience with Classic has been wonderful and I am paying MSRP. I live in So. CA and would not accept paying the premiums or the wait that the dealers in this state were charging and expecting. Shipping in an enclosed truck would have cost $1200. I am picking-up because I want to drive it!</p>
<p>That’s the only way to go. I live in UT and purchased mine from MINI of St. Louis. No wait, no markup, excellent experience. I flew out and drove home, because the cost of the trip was a bit less than shipping would have been, and a million times more fun.</p>
<p>Ramon, Seems every one who owns a MINI is constantly looking for excuses to drive. I suggest you find a dealer somewhere in the states you have not had the opportunity to experience and see If they will sell at MSRP. Nearby in Nashville, Tn we have MINI of NAshville, Good folk, If interested call John Monk @ (614) 620-MINI (6464)and they charge only MSRP. Nashville’s not too far from the Tail of the Dragon and other good drives in the Smokey Mountains. Make a really memorable trip out of your new purchase, here or elsewhere.</p>
<p>Mini of the Hamptons is advertising they will deliver any of their in-stock vehicles at MSRP for $500 anywhere in the continental USA. 8 week delay for made-to-order.</p>
<p>I’ve no knowledge of them, just saw their announcement this morning and seemed appropriate to pass on here.</p>
<p>Hendricks Mini in Charlotte, NC sells at MSRP and they have MCS’s in stock..It’s also a couple hours drive from the Dragon. Also airline flights between Charlotte and the left coast are advertised under $200, alot cheaper than the markup in Calif.</p>
<p>Ramon, you can get a Mini for one of the Atlanta area Mini Dealers. Global Mini 678.569.7550. Ask for Laurie Coggins.</p>
<p>Her’s what you do…
Order your Mini from a GA dealer, schedule for pickup the weekend of Minis on the Dragon. Fly Airtran from SF to Atlanta, (99.00 one way advanced fare). Pick up the car on the Thursday before, drive up to the Dragon. Party like it’s 1999 with 500 Mini owners. Drive home to SF, (the long route).
Enjoy and repeat as needed.</p>
<p>Heck there is a guy flying in from Australia for the Dragon.</p>
<p>Regarding MSRP dealers in Bay Area:</p>
<p>I am in LA area, so I cannot help with Norcal, but if you don’t mind driving a bit, South Bay MINI in Torrance is a great dealer.</p>
<ul>
<li>Nice people</li>
<li>MSRP dealer</li>
<li>Two month waiting list. I ordered in January and have a March production date.</li>
</ul>
<p>Can’t say enough nice things about Freddie (sales) and Jennifer (mgr). Always nice and happy to talk with you (even when calling in your third order change…).</p>
<p>Lester</p>
<p>I think Peter Egan needs to join us on our <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chicagominiclub.com/2005/02/14/spring_drive_to_millies_march_20th.html">Spring Drive to Millie’s</a> in Delavan Wisconsin this March. Open invitation!!</p>
<p>Ramon,</p>
<p>Check out East Bay MINI in Pleasanton. They are excellent. They will always charge exactly MSRP, and are super friendly. I loved buying from them. The only problem with East Bay MINI is the wait times, 3-5 months for Cooper, 8-12 months for a Cooper S, and I don’t know what the convertible wait times are, I’m guessing about a year.</p>
<p>After reading his story I think a trip to La Fonda in Baja Ca. is in order this very weekend.</p>
<p>+++RB</p>
<p>Ramon & Jesse,
AndroMCS has it right. Buy at Classic MINI for an unbelievable sales experience. I just ordered my fourth MINI from Julie @ Classic. I also sent you an email. </p>
<p>Peter Egan got it right. It’s all in the delivery…and the ride home.</p>
<p>I don’t want to boast, but all three dealers around Montreal have all models in stock, even MCSC’s, and discounts are available on certain models!… I don’t know what the rules are to bring one in the U.S., but Canadian regs are usually stricter than U.S. ones… The exchange on the $ is not as good as it was last year, but it might be worth investigating… See MINI.ca for pricing.
Ben</p>
<p>So Ramon, Inquiring minds want to know. Whatcha gonna do?</p>
<p>First – I want to thank everyone for offering me so many solutions!
After reading all the replies, I realized that buying a MINI adds an additional bonus – being in the company of alot of people who care about their “neighbor”, wherever he or she may be, so I thank you all.</p>
<p>I’m leaving soon on a long overdue trip to visit my wonderful father, in San Juan, Puerto Rico, then I’m going to make the tough decision of selecting an out of state MINI dealer. I’ll even consider Canada!
The people in Vancouver are very friendly – something that San Franciscans need to work on, but that another matter entirely.</p>
<p>I’m going to continue visiting dealer websites, and monitor reviews on their operations.
Again – thanks to all for your constructive input.</p>
<p>I forgot to mention – the MINI dealer in Vancouver has a nice showroom in Yaletown.</p>
<p>Ramon,
Before you buy from a Canadian dealer, be forewarned that to register a car in CA, it has to be smog legal; and the stickers on the car must so indicate, or CA DMV will not register it. MINIs imported to the USA are “50 States Cars” which means BMW/MINI certifies that they meet all 50 states smog requirements, including CA.</p>
<p>The folks in Vancouver and at other Canadian dealers might be very nice, but they’re not imported by MINIUSA, and therefore (although technically they’re as “clean” as US cars), CA won’t accept them for registration unless you’re a citizen of Canada immigrating to the USA. At best you may have to pay a $300 fee; at worst, they won’t register it in CA. Buyer Beware.</p>
<p>Charlie</p>
<p>Sorry to divert us back to the original topic of this thread…</p>
<p>So this guy is an automotive journalist who lives in (snowy) Wisconsin, but ordered an MCS just a few months before the LSD was available? Hmmm…</p>