We’ve got part numbers and pricing on the new JCW Carbon Spoiler that everyone always seems to have an opinion on. It is scheduled to be released later this month in the UK and Europe (no word on the US market yet). As previously mentioned there will be four variations of the spoiler:
Black / 51 71 0 406 291
High Gloss metallic / 51 13 0 392 168
Aspen white / 51 71 0 406 292
Dark silver / 51 71 0 406 293
(also required is the adhesive glue kit / 83 19 0 406 974)
JCW Carbon Spoiler will retail for £453.66 in the UK. Hopefully we’ll have more info regarding the US market pricing and availbility soon.
You can see a wider angle shot of the spoiler here and a picture of it being tested on the Nurburgring here (the last via MINI2).
Related:
[ New JCW Options for 2006 ] MotoringFile
(Thanks to all those who sent this in)
<p>… ricey.</p>
<p>i’d rather the m7.</p>
<p>rice, rice, baby</p>
<p>Ouch… Up till now, “official” accesories have been tasteful up to some extent. No longer, apparently (IMHO).</p>
<p>(also required is the adhesive glue kit / 83 19 0 406 974) ???</p>
<p>Does this mean the whole thing’s glued on?</p>
<p>The purpose of this wing is not just for looks but actually performance. I know for a fact that JCW did test this wing, and made modifications on the wing to extract the most performance. It is funny, because either JCW comes out with wheels, which everyone says looks great, but complain about the lack of performance, saying performance should be paramount, that is why you need to go aftermarket, or people complain about the looks when it is built for performance.</p>
<p>Poor JCW. Can’t win on anything.</p>
<p>I feel this will be a long time coming to the US. We still can’t get the strut bar, which has been sitting in a warehouse in the US here for some time, waiting for documentation. Gabe, it would be great to get an “official” update on that item from you, since it was last posted on Motoringfile that it was imminently coming.</p>
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<p>Does this mean the whole thing’s glued on?</p>
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<p>I would guess it’s just like the factory spoilers…. glued and bolted down.</p>
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<p>It is funny, because either JCW comes out with wheels, which everyone says looks great, but complain about the lack of performance, saying performance should be paramount, that is why you need to go aftermarket, or people complain about the looks when it is built for performance.</p>
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<p>dgszweda – Yeah it is a bit ridiculous. All larger diameter factory wheels are going to be rather heavy compared to the aftermarket as MINI keen to make them incredibly rigid for daily use on less than perfect roads. A trade-off that benefit 99.9% of owners. Yet people complain. Can you imagine the outcry if all our wheels were getting bent up on a daily basis? </p>
<p>And now the wing comes out and people call it ricey because, well, it’s a wing. Don’t mind that it’s been tested at Nurburgring and developed in the windtunnel. If it’s a wing, it must be ricey. </p>
<p>It’s not exactly my style either but I just can’t bring myself to call it ricey.</p>
<blockquote>It’s not exactly my style either but I just can’t bring myself to call it ricey.</blockquote>
<p>I use to think it was a little over the top until I saw all the JCW cars in Europe using them on the track, and then it was starting to look really cool. It is still a little over the top for my taste on my car, but it is functional, and hey it is carbon fiber.</p>
<p>Now the aero wing from Mini I do like. I just have to save a little more money.</p>
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<p>Now the aero wing from Mini I do like. I just have to save a little more money.</p>
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<p>Actually there’s some company that sells a replica of the aero wing on eBay that is carbon fiber. I’ve had my eye on it before. They usually have a buy it now price of about $220.</p>
<p>I’m afraid this is one of those things that I’ll have to see in person before I can pass judgement on it.</p>
<p>I’m not sure I understand the color choices. Is the carbon fiber painted over, or is something else painted?</p>
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<p>Is the carbon fiber painted over, or is something else painted?</p>
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<p>What is white in the picture above is the part that is painted.</p>
<p>i like it, and dark silver you say.</p>
<p>……and if you check out the John Cooper challenge Cooper S’ they all have this wing, <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.wessexnetworks.com/jccgallery/photos/2005/55%20-%20Darren%20Needham%20Brands/SW107_002.JPG">Challenge S</a>. A little funky for me, but very functional.</p>
<p>I dig it! Like Scottinbend brought up, it’s functional – a part, derived from real-world testing and motorsports programs, that trickles down to ths public, like the <a rel="nofollow" href="http://tinyurl.com/def8w">Evo vortex generator</a> or the <a rel="nofollow" href="http://tinyurl.com/76curk">STi roof vane</a>. I probably won’t put it on <em>my</em> car, but I like the story behind it, and that it’s offered as an option…</p>
<p>Another question though – what are the little nubs mounted on the boot lid, <em>under</em> the spoiler? To plug the holes from the previous standard spoilers? Or are they “vortex generators”? Heh heh…</p>
<p>Those plastic cover plates are plugging the holes from where the bolts went for the Cooper S spoiler.</p>
<p>Define “functional”</p>
<p>Functional………</p>
<p>….it actually works as designed. Not just for the looks.</p>
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<p>Functional………</p>
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<p>….it actually works as designed. Not just for the looks.<</p>
<p>It could also be put this way.
When you’re haulin BOOT into a fast turn your BOOT stays down for max grip.
Remember with the Audi TT, the spoiler was standard as the autobahn required more rear grip to keep the car pointed in the intended direction.</p>
<p>I guess us cabrio owners have to wait until they come out with an <em>iron on</em> wing before this becomes an option . . . shame. Man I love being topless . . .</p>
<p>I’ll not call it ricey when I get the specs on what it actually does. JCW gives the HP and torque on their engine upgrades, says how much stopping distance improves with the brakes – how about the specs on how much downforce it provides, or even something like how much it improved the lap times on the ring. Until then, it looks way too similar to the aluminum ones that are all over US highways and probably actually decrease performance.</p>
<p>Form follows function I suppose.</p>
<p>I dunno, I think that I will get used to it after 3 years of seeing it, like most things. </p>
<p>but it still reminds me of <a rel="nofollow" href="http://spoilers4less.com/btheaptrucwi.html">this</a> or more so <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.streetbeatcustoms.com/gtwings1.html">this</a></p>
<blockquote>It’s not exactly my style either but I just can’t bring myself to call it ricey.</blockquote>
<p>Go on, Gabe. You can do it. It is a gaudy carbon fiber ornament that serves no function below track speeds. Even then, its size and mounting would not allow it to apply much downforce. </p>
<p>Here’s a real wing:</p>
<p><a href="http://gurskephotography.com/Thill/111304/115_1576.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">http://gurskephotography.com/Thill/111304/115_1576.jpg</a></p>
<p>wow thats orange! Do you think that they effect insurance rates?</p>
<p><blockquote>We still can’t get the strut bar, which has been sitting in a warehouse in the US here for some time, waiting for documentation. Gabe, it would be great to get an “official” update on that item from you</blockquote>The strut bar has been available in Europe and even Canada for many months. Just my idle speculation but such a long delay must involve some US regulatory issue. Perhaps as a structural change, MINIUSA must certify it with crash testing, and are unwilling spend the time and expense. Gabe, if you have access to any information, I think a lot of people would be interested.</p>
<p>I think: it’s very ugly …. :-(</p>
<p>If not “ricey”, how about “pricey” at $830 US at the current exchange rate.</p>
<p>Thank you Ken.</p>
<p>Out of curiosity, anyone know how much the three OEM spoilers each weigh?</p>
<p>Pardon me, but I just threw up a little.</p>
<p>I believe they’re called “spoilers” for a reason.</p>
<p>As with anything I dislike about BMW, I’ll blame Bangle for this. Why not.</p>
<blockquote>I guess us cabrio owners have to wait until they come out with an iron on wing before this becomes an option . . . shame. Man I love being topless . . .</blockquote>
<p>Heh. How about bolting one to the roll hoops! Yeah baby!</p>
<p>If everyone wants it so bad then order it from the U.K.</p>
<p>ChrisW I vote your post the best on on Motoringfile in 05.. I was LMAO..
As a Z3 owner I like to blame Bangle for ruining things too.. but the roll hoop part was priceless.</p>
<p>I want to see this in person.. The standard Cooper S wing is perfect in my book. Interesting that its coming in white.. that would be cool to see on a car with white roof.</p>
<blockquote> It is a gaudy carbon fiber ornament that serves no function below track speeds. Even then, its size and mounting would not allow it to apply much downforce.</blockquote>
<p>True, not effective until at speed. But it is effective. And it will work as mounted, not sure how you can say it wouldn’t. Just ask any of the racers in England about the effectiveness.</p>
<p>I don’t care for the looks either, but don’t say it won’t work as designed.</p>
<p>tough crowd… you guys…whatever national background… english, asian, south american, european, etc… Does it work? I assume it is like most bmw motorsports parts, meaning it works/functional, and not like other useless spoilers… I like that, care less about looks but more about function and weight.. Now we need a jcw front splitter to make enough downforce on front of the car, too.</p>
<p>I would buy it except for the price… though… Lower price to $399 and JCW could sell a boat load I think…</p>
<blockquote>Just ask any of the racers in England about the effectiveness. I don’t care for the looks either, but don’t say it won’t work as designed.</blockquote>
<p>I think the “racers in England” use this part because it is part of the JC Motorsports package, and the cars need to be “one design” per rules of the JC Challenge series. And I didn’t say that it won’t work as designed, just that it was not designed to work well.</p>
<p>Boy was Gabe ever right. You never do have anything positive to say do you nrkist.</p>
<p>The reason the wing is part of the package for the S racers is because of the higher speeds attained. The Cooper’s don’t need it. It was designed to be a functional wing, not as an add-on. I am not sure how you could even assume that it wasn’t designed to work well. How could it have been made to work better?</p>
<p>Yes, I am a swirling vortex of negativity. Ok, how about this: “What an awesome product! This should really help counteract the Mini’s tendancy to oversteer. And they really hit the sweet spot on pricing! Sign me up for two!</p>
<p>Much better…. thanks !</p>
<p>Now THAT is an amusing design!</p>
<p>Functional but proportionally too small and too expensive.</p>