Will an All-Wheel Drive MINI Ever See the Light of Day? With the recent Getrag testing of an AWD drive system for the MCS, we seem to get this questions asked every couple of weeks. And while there’s been quite a bit of excitement in some circles over the prospect recently, an All-wheel drive MINI may be further away than many of us would like to believe according to some exclusive information we’ve recently recieved.
First off there’s the issue of the MINI brand. As we all know the MINI was one of the first cars to bring front wheel drive to the masses in a way that endeared itself to both the enthusiast and the commuter. There are some within MINI that believe that an AWD MINI will run contrary to this principle.
Secondly there’s the price issue. At what point does the base price of a MINI move into a different realm entirely. While people in the US may look at the MINI as a small premium car, many in other parts of the world look at it as smart, fun, basic transportation. An AWD MINI would move the base price into uncharted territory when fully loaded.
Finally there’s the question of who would actually buy an AWD MINI? While it’s a safe bet that an option like AWD will interest the die-hard enthusiasts, what about the masses? On the face of it it, the vast majority of those buying the MINI would most likely not be interested in such an option. And even if there is strong enthusiast support, is this group large enough to justify the engineering costs to bring AWD to market?
These are all questions MINI is considering as it looks at the idea of AWD in the MINI line for the years ahead. And from what I’m hearing… we may be waiting for some time.
If you would like to see an AWD MINI in the years ahead, I urge you to let MINI know in the comment section below.
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<p>i want AWD!</p>
<p>I suppose all the same concerns were valid when deciding whether to 1) try to bring MINI back to the US; 2) build the MCS; 3) offer the JCW pacakge; 4) offer a convertible. Hey, either they’re aggressive or they can cede the AWD markets to pretty much every other automaker.</p>
<p>too bad. I was hoping to hang on to my ’02 MCS long enough for the AWD to show up. </p>
<p>While I agree the market is not huge, a percentage of MCS buyers, it certainly would have a demand.</p>
<p>BTW, I want more power when/if it shows up too. With no boog off the line. </p>
<p>GMG</p>
<p>I’d like an AWD MINI and my wife (who drives a Subaru) would love one. So there’s two sold!</p>
<p>Off-topic:</p>
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<p>BTW, I want more power when/if it shows up too. With no boog off the line.</p>
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<p>You may want to try an ’05 or ’06 in the meantime. No hesitation off the line at all.</p>
<p>AWD is the only thing that will cause me to buy another MINI. I love my 03MCS and will keep it until AWD is available</p>
<p>Having just recently sold my ’03 MCS yesterday, I am currently waiting for a ’06 MCS convertible. That said, I would have picked an AWD MCS over the convertible in a heartbeat (and over a stock MCS hardtop). So, yeah, I would love to see an AWD Mini. Add the AWD to the new Mini EXT, Clubman, Traveller, or whatever you want to call it, and I could say goodbye to my Subaru.</p>
<p>AWD drive seems very excessive to me. You could get a 325ix for probably the same money as Mini would charge.</p>
<p>A JCWorks with AWD could be a terrific rallye machine which in turn will boost image (and sales) of the “normal” Mini’s, just the way it Cosworth did with the Sierra/Escort or Citroën with the Xsara.</p>
<p>An AWD JCW Traveller is a must-have for 2009.</p>
<p>I would strongly consider an AWD MINI as my next car.</p>
<p>Yeah, I would definitely buy an AWD MINI, particularly in MCS/JCW guise :-D</p>
<blockquote> First off there’s the issue of the MINI brand. As we all know the MINI was one of the first cars to bring front wheel drive to the masses in a way that endeared itself to both the enthusiast and the commuter. There are some within MINI that believe that an AWD MINI will run contrary to this principle.</blockquote>
<p>Puh-lease. This is just ridiculous. The Mini also brought rubber cone suspension to the masses.</p>
<blockquote>An AWD MINI would move the base price into uncharted territory when fully loaded.</blockquote>
<p>Similar to the current factory-installed JCW with required packages?</p>
<blockquote>And even if there is strong enthusiast support, is this group large enough to justify the engineering costs to bring AWD to market?</blockquote>
<p>Now we’re talking.</p>
<p>AWD, without a doubt.<br />
I don’t get it, they can ugly up the interior, and switch from superchanged to turbocharged ( with the next generation) when clearly the general public dislikes the idea ( at least with the interior ) but then they care about what they think the general public feels about AWD.</p>
<p>I would love to see an AWD version available. But why couldn’t BMW offer the same lineup as now but just add AWD as an option. You would still maintain the lower spectrum of pricing, while making available the AWD option to those that want it. I don’t see it as a prudent business decision to only offer AWD MINI’s.</p>
<p>Great point! It is just like adding the JCW package to all the mini’s. And that is not a cheap option!</p>
<p>A waste of time and money. Even though Getrags test mule results were interesting and it would really be cool to have a MINI equipped as such, I don’t really think the majority of people would need it. Look at BMW (which I used to sell). The only part of the U.S. that consumes AWD 3 and 5 series vehicles is the Northeast and Canada. The Germans are baffled (and I have spoken to an NA employee from there) why we would drive a great handling rear wheel drive vehicle without a good set of snow tires? You barely see AWD BMW’s in Europe. For that simple fact the Majority of the world will be the determining factor. AWD is just not a necessity.</p>
<p>I think AWD would be great for MINI and maybe lead to a return of MINI to the world of rallying where the Cooper made such a huge impact. Don’t know about retail viability, but I’d imagine “race on Sunday, sell on Monday” applies here.</p>
<p>I’d be interested…</p>
<p>No market for this? Don’t tell Subaru that! Subarus didn’t start out with AWD.</p>
<p>I agree with WVS. </p>
<p>John Cooper was on the cutting edge when he put a engine in the back on his F1 racers.</p>
<p>He was also on the cutting edge with the Mini</p>
<p>He was also experimenting with an AWD, twin engine Mini. This was really interesting. It had a an engine in the front and in the rear. The idea was trashed after the front engine died in testing, he lost control and ended up in a tree. It almost killed him and the idea was never visited again.</p>
<p>More on this later.</p>
<p>BTW if you look up John Cooper in the Wikipedia, there is an external link to the Counter Counterfeit Commision! Hows that for marketing!</p>
<p>Though I like the idea of an AWD Mini… and possibly I would buy one… it will depend on pricing… </p>
<p>Gabe.. i have seen other forums and sites.. but kudos to Motoring File.. you got the scoop… thanks for keeping the Mini enthusiasts informed… and wanting more..</p>
<p>I can’t really see the value of AWD.</p>
<p>The MINI is already the best handling car on the road….so how much better is it going to be with AWD? At what cost? Don’t answer, because it was a rhetorical question. The reality is it probably WON’T GET MUCH BETTER. </p>
<p>It might get worse because AWD:
1. Adds weight.
2. Saps power.</p>
<p>As to it being an option…well again, how many people are going to take that option? 10%? That’s not many people considereing MINIs overall production.</p>
<p>I say bring on a Hybrid MINI instead. If they want to stick electric motors on the rear wheels, that would be be an excellent AWD compromise.</p>
<p>Maybe we should start a petition for an AWD Mini?</p>
<p>I’ve had Audis and Subarus for years because of AWD, but I couldn’t resist the new MINI when it came out. New England is very slippy in the winter. I would replace my current with AWD MINI now if there was an option.</p>
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<p>The only part of the U.S. that consumes AWD 3 and 5 series vehicles is the Northeast and Canada. The Germans are baffled (and I have spoken to an NA employee from there) why we would drive a great handling rear wheel drive vehicle without a good set of snow tires? You barely see AWD BMW’s in Europe. For that simple fact the Majority of the world will be the determining factor. AWD is just not a necessity.</p>
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<p>Mark – I couldn’t have said it better myself. Why anyone would need to add AWD to a perfectly balanced rear-wheel drive car such as a BMW (who doesn’t live in the mountains) is beyond me. </p>
<p>However with the MINI being an inherently un-balanced front driver, I can see there being added benefit.</p>
<p>The new concept + AWD = I’d buy 2!</p>
<p>I want AWD!</p>
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<li>As someone said, the MINI was always about being innovative. FWD was a new thing when the original Mini was designed, but I don’t think the MINI needs to be beholden to it ad infinitum if other reasons overrule its use.</li>
<li>Price. Well, there’s a lot of people already buying Cooper S models configured in the high 20’s. I would definitely buy one, and in fact I might not buy a next-gen MINI unless an AWD becomes available.</li>
<li>An AWD MINI would be very competitive against Audi’s AWD A3, and its improved handling characteristics would attract more performance-minded drivers, especially with the turbo engine. I think you might see quite a few Suby owners giving the MINI another look.</li>
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<p>Well, when MINI looks at the comments on this page, they know that they are looking at what the enthusiasts think. That said, I’ll offer my vote for an AWD MINI. It makes MINI sense if we’re talking about cornering ability. It also seems to me that if we ever get to modern MINI Moke, it would have to be AWD.</p>
<p>Might it be that BMW fears that a AWD MINI would infrige in 325 territory?</p>
<p>Saludos</p>
<p>Gabe, I’m curious what your experience (you also being in the midwest) with your MINI’s has been in the winter snow. FWD does well in the slush, but AWD can be even better. Not having driven a MINI in snow and ice myself I have no frame of reference. Would winter driving characteristics improve with AWD?</p>
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<p>Gabe, I’m curious what your experience (you also being in the midwest) with your MINI’s has been in the winter snow. FWD does well in the slush, but AWD can be even better. Not having driven a MINI in snow and ice myself I have no frame of reference. Would winter driving characteristics improve with AWD?</p>
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<p>Yes. Slippery conditions like snow magnify any chasis shortcomings a car may have. The MINI handles fairly well in the snow but has the typical draw-backs that all FWD cars have. Meaning that once you lose traction you also lose the ability to steer. To tell you the truth, I much prefer my rear wheel drive 3 series wagon (5-speed manual with snow tires of course) then driving the MINI in snow. With that car you have perfect balance, maximum control over both steering and acceleration and it’s only 500lbs heavier than the MINI (hard to believe I know).</p>
<p>I know it sounds crazy, but to me a rear wheel drive MINI (or an AWD with rear bias) would be my ideal car.</p>
<p>very hard call as if i would buy one or not. I’m not saying don’t make it, please do!</p>
<p>I love my AWD subaru, but it is a little disconnected from life. Granted, it’s no STi, just an old 97 OBS. However, it offers more room, more cargo space, etc. I don’t expect it to do what the mini does, i expect it to go at is average pace through any condition.</p>
<p>Will the AWD system in a mini take away tossability? Will it add unneeded weight & complexity? We all know it will add to the price….but how much? You can now easily crack 30K with either the JCW or the Drop Top, never mind both options…</p>
<p>And, while it may seem a non-issue, brand is VERY important to a company. MINI has done a killer job re-establisting themselves in this market. The addition of an AWD option would be studied just as hard from a brand positioning point as it will from a technical aspect. </p>
<p>I am not a FWD guy by ANY means. never was, never will be….until the mini. (there was almost an affair with an integra….got the miata instead). So, as you all know, the MINI has that driving feel that is intoxicating. Enough to put my turbo miata up for sale. Yeah, it’s that freaking good.</p>
<p>So, as long as you can jam AWD in there, only add 20 or so pounds and keep THAT DRIVING FEELING, by all means, DO IT!</p>
<p>Of course, what about an AWD system in that rumored Lightweight MCS?!? :)</p>
<p>Gabe, thank you for the soapbox….</p>
<p>-jac</p>
<p>Here in northern California, we don’t need AWD, though almost every consumer here has been convinced by Detroit’s marketing departments that one needs a suburban/land cruiser/hummer/etc. to get around. (And now we are in the middle east, feeding our addiction.) </p>
<p>AWD adds cost and weight and cuts fuel mileage. This isn’t the direction I want to go. I’d rather see a diesel or hybrid MINI. </p>
<p>By the way, I drive off road every day to get to my house, and FWD does fine. </p>
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<li>James</li>
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<p>AWD MINI Pick-up. Yes!</p>
<p>I would however buy a car version if it were availble.</p>
<blockquote>No market for this? Don’t tell Subaru that! Subarus didn’t start out with AWD.</blockquote>
<p>O(=^=)O Capn, you took the words right out of my mouth.</p>
<p>I have strong feelings that AWD has a broader appeal than enthusiasts. As for hiking the price too much? Toyota/Pontiac offer AWD on the Vibe/Matrix, and they are still reasonably priced.</p>
<p>The only way I will buy my next MINI is AWD/JWC with european pick up. Otherwise it is time to start looking at other brands. Porsche Carrera 4S? Please get it done MINI, so I don’t have to go that route.</p>
<p>I am from Northern California, Lake Tahoe, I need AWD 8 months out of the year, where my Volvo gets the duty, I would like to feel confident enough to take a MINI out in all weather.</p>
<p>I don’t think I would buy an AWD, I would prefer to have front wheel drive. Of course I live in TX so I don’t really need the AWD and I would rather have better gas milage than AWD.</p>
<p>MINI Wagon Concept + AWD?</p>
<p>True the wagon is to MINI’s “roots” but this is also targeted at a new market for MINI…. AWD Could be a key selling point for those “downsizing” from their SUV….</p>
<p>AWD MINI Future Owner here! /raises hand. In fact I will spend up to 40k for one.</p>
<p>Just goes to show how much MINI know about AWD and demand.</p>
<p>AWD is something that I would certainly consider, especially on the extended wheelbase model, but then again it does add weight and complexity.</p>
<p>My FWD MINI has never left me stuck in winter (although it’s low so the snowplow effect occurs…) but in terms of ultimate handling, RWD is the best. But the MINI doesn’t need it. It’s small and light enough to pivot and not plow in turns. I’m sure there are MCS owners with the LSD now who are fully happy with the power application out of bends. AWD is more for performance than snow. I was fortunate enough to learn how to drive on an E36 325i in New England winters. That car does very well in the snow and is always controllable. Plus powering out of turns is a bit easier in the dry…but then again the MINI is more tossable….</p>
<p>In the end, we have to be realistic. MINI will always be FWD, at least. BMW will always be RWD, at least. With the possibility of a 1 series derivative coming and well optioned MCSs hitting that price target, I don’t know what the marketers would do….especially once you hit 325i territory. I love my MC b/c it has so many of the characteristics that make BMWs great plus excellent cheeky personality and sublime driving manners that equal or surpass the 3 series for half the price….</p>
<p>Final word- AWD would not hurt sales.</p>
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<p>I was fortunate enough to learn how to drive on an E36 325i in New England winters.</p>
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<p>Sounds familiar. I learned how to drive on a old E30 325is in Northwen Indiana winters 😉 It’s a great way to learn car control and the finer points of chasis dynamics!</p>
<blockquote>The MINI is already the best handling car on the road…</blockquote>
<p>Um… Z4MINI, aren’t you forgetting a few cars? Most especially the Lotus Elise? :)</p>
<p>Don’t get me wrong, I LOVE my MINI, and it’s an awesome handler, certainly <em>one of</em> the best, but it’s definitely not THE best handling street legal car out there.</p>
<p>I would definitely consider an AWD MINI! As an ex-Subaru owner (1999 2.5 RS – normally-aspirated version of the WRX), I definitely miss the added performance and control provided by a good AWD system.</p>
<p>And I’m surprised by all the folks who think AWD is just for bad weather… </p>
<p>Two Performance benefits from AWD:
1) Allows getting more power to the road – the high-horsepower MINIs we see aren’t limited in perfromance by horsepower – they’re limited by how well the drivetrain can make use of it. AWD really makes a difference under forward accelleration.</p>
<p>2) Handling can be drastically improved by learning to use throttle control to induce oversteer as desired, without losing the ability to revert to understeer if things get hairy in a turn. </p>
<p>One of the only things that slowed down my decision to purchase a MINI was the lack of AWD. I love my MCSc without it, but am certain it would be better with it.</p>
<p><em>Dave</em></p>
<p>….. all valid points for BMW to consider. Personally, I think they should consider setting up a MINI version of “M” and then they can run all sorts of specials through it; Lightweights, AWD …. the mind boggles!</p>
<p>The only additional thing I could even possibly imagine wanting on an MCS is AWD.. I would hope for it to greatly improve traction in normal ‘spirited’ driving conditions, and be invaluable in snow. I’d love it.</p>
<p>It’s difficult in the US for small cars to get big respect. Most people who comment on my MCS remark about the great gas milage I must be getting while they’re spending $90 to fill up a giant 4WD SUV. You could say that about a Hyundai or a Kia. Maybe they don’t see a difference-?</p>
<p>(BTW I usually respond with something like “It’s capable of great mileage, but with the way I drive it….”)</p>
<p>My point is I would soooo love to see AWD MINIs making a mark in the rally/racing world, making a name for the car in competitions, and increasing public respect for our little wonders. </p>
<p>Subaru seems to be the AWD king in the US as far as cars go, and wow are they fugly ookling…just think how much more appealing an AWD MINI would be!</p>
<p>If BMW/MINI really wants an expanded name for remarkably engineered automobiles here, adding AWD will do much more than adding 3-5 different variant models of a little car IMO.</p>
<p>As far as price point goes- my 2005 MCS is fully loaded and I still managed to buy more stuff from the dealer like Sirius, an aero kit, etc….. I would easily choose AWD over some of these extras.</p>
<p>That’s my take, and why I think MINI should consider AWD a bigger priority than “maybe in the distant future..”</p>
<p>:)</p>
<p>Add my voice to the chorus shouting “YES!” for an AWD Mini. </p>
<p>Some commenters have said that there’s no <em>need</em> for AWD, and that’s certainly true. There’s no need for JCW either, or 18″ wheels, or suspension mods, etc. The point isn’t whether there’s a need, it’s whether there is a <em>demand</em> on the part of the market. I believe there is, especially if the price point is right. It should be considerably less than a Subaru WRX STi.</p>
<p>An AWD Mini would also put Mini back in road rallies, and that can’t be bad. That’s what made the original Mini’s reputation way back when. </p>
<p>I’d buy it.</p>
<p>I’d strongly prefer an AWD option on the MINI. I hope to always have at least one AWD car, and MINI doesn’t qualify without this option.</p>
<p>Vote yes for AWD MINI!! I’ll buy.</p>
<p>AWD + MINI = happy happy joy joy.</p>
<p>Seriously, if the MINI brand was daring enough to bring the tiny car into the SUV infested U.S. then they certainly have a chance with the AWD.</p>
<p>Besides, the only way I would replace my 04 MCS is if an AWD is available. (No understeer please!)</p>
<p>I agree. I totally think an AWD MINI would be as revolutionary as evolutionary. </p>
<p>I too would be much more likely to go buy a MINI with AWD as my next car, than a MINI with FWD.</p>
<p>I live in PA where the snow is terrible. A MINI that I could live with all year is SOOOO desirable.</p>
<p>I am exchanging my ’02 MCS for an ’06 MCS just to get the LSD. The only reason I would change again would be to get AWD. I can’t see any other reason to change cars and stay with the same brand.</p>
<p>If it weren’t for the LSD I wouldn’t be buying a new car until I had over 100,000 miles on my ’02 (currently 33,300 mi.). This is the first time that I have traded in a car with less than 120,000 mi. My last vehicle, a Ford F-150, had 170,000 mi when I traded it for my MCS.</p>
<p>The family car, a ’87 Camry wagon, had over 230,000 mi. before we traded it. Even my first 2 cars, ’65 & ’68 VW beetles had over 100,000 miles before I sold them.</p>
<p>Don’t make this my last MINI, bring us the AWD MINI! Build it, they will come.</p>
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<p>am0eba </p>
<p>I would definitely consider an AWD MINI! As an ex-Subaru owner (1999 2.5 RS – normally-aspirated version of the WRX), I definitely miss the added performance and control provided by a good AWD system.</p>
<p>One of the only things that slowed down my decision to purchase a MINI was the lack of AWD. I love my MCSc without it, but am certain it would be better with it.</p>
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<p>Boy, I can’t agree more. The MINI was the car for me. I had everything picked out, until my friend had me drive a <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.bruni.us/forum/sticoupe.jpg">WRX STi.</a> </p>
<p>I yelped when the turbo kicked in. He told me the scoop was for looks, the SOB. I hadn’t even given them a second look until then. WOW! 30k, 300 horse, AWD. That was a difficult decision! Eventually, It was the quality of construction, supercharger(power now when you need it, hint, hint), and just shear fun that won out. I still wanted to make it my second car until that ugly body styling came out. yeesh!</p>
<p>I would take an AWD MINI now!!!!!!!!!! I mention it every chance I get.</p>
<p>A hybrid MINI? The tree huggers that have posted in this thread are not your focus group. We need a car that can seriously compete and win! That is after all what John Cooper did. He practicly invented the rear mounted engine F1 racing style. Take a good car, make it better, and won. Could we take a MINI, trick it out and win a rally if it didn’t have AWD? No! Do what it takes to win. Thats what a MINI is, it is a winner! </p>
<p>Stop resting on your laurels from 64 and 67. That was 40 years ago! for crying out loud!</p>
<p>Build it and I will buy it, as will many others who opted for the WRX STi.</p>
<p>[AWD would be contrary to the typical Mini FWD].</p>
<p>“Puh-lease. This is just ridiculous. The Mini also brought rubber cone
suspension to the masses.”</p>
<p>Right, and as we all know, every small car on the market today has rubber cone suspension, just like it has a transverse mounted four cilinder engine combined with FWD… Puh-lease, as you say.</p>
<p>I can relate to the person who said that Mini is about forward thinking (erm… let’s forget about the 40-odd years prior to 2000, shall we? ;)) so AWD shouldn’t be a problem, but FWD, transverse mounted engine is a very important characteristic of the Mini and it makes sense to give some serious thought into whether it is a good idea to change that. Rubber cone suspension, on the other hand, was just a hiccup in the history of the automotive industry. It only survived until Y2K because the classic Mini survived. Contrary to transverse engine/FWD, which was just a bloody good idea, as is proven by 9 out of ten cars on the road in most parts of the world.</p>
<p>i’d buy a AWD MCS/JCW 😀
i agree with gabe, i’d even buy a RWD MCS/JCW or even an AWD with RW bias…but i love the FW MINI now…but an AWD MINI would be cool 🙂 however last time we went at it, my mate who drives a subaru 2.5 RS reckons my MINI outhandles his…debatable i know but still it was a nice compliment ;)</p>
<p>BTW, AWD Mini’s have been done before. John Cooper himself was in a serious crash once with a car that had two engines, one in the front and one in the back (which is/was the way most AWD Mini’s were done). T</p>
<p>here is also an AWD prototype setup around with a single engine, which was built by the Works rally-department. I think it’s currently fitted to a Clubman model.</p>
<p>AWD? Yes Please! I’d replace my 2004 MCS tomorrow if AWD was available.</p>
<p>An AWD might be one of the only varients that would get me to trade in my ’03 MCS. MMMmmm AWD…</p>
<p>I want AWD and will not replace my current MINI until it is avaialble!</p>
<p>MAKE IT, BMW!</p>
<p>Cooper S-drivers want 4WD!</p>
<p>I agree with these points. An AWD version would drive the cost even further. And how expensive can a MINI <em>really</em> get? They’re already pushing it, in my opinion..</p>
<p>YESSSS!
MAKE IT, BMW!</p>
<p>I´ll buy the first awd-mini!</p>
<p>FWD is what keeps me away from a Mini.</p>
<p>I only leased my current ’05 Cooper because I wanted to hold out for the new model, since some people hinted at an AWD variant. An AWD MCS would be a force to be recconed with.</p>
<p>I will add that the new Turbo engine should be fun to upgrade.</p>
<p>But its going to need AWD to put serious power down.</p>
<p>And I’ll take a sequential gear box while we’re dreaming. :-)</p>
<p>And a widebody. ;-)</p>
<p>AWD with All wheel steering and JCW. Turn on a pin head and sprint across ice.</p>
<p>AWD Speedster. Roll cage.</p>
<p>Offer AWD across the range, including the new pullman version! I’ll buy one.</p>
<p>I’m all for AWD and diesel in the Pullman/Traveller/Countryman (for less money than a 325ix).</p>
<p>hey z4mini. 10%better.</p>
<p>If SUVs have proved anything, its that people don’t buy what they need, they buy what fulfills their self image.</p>
<p>AWD is sexier, portraying power, performance, and safety. And its not about getting existing customers to pay extra for a feature they may not even want, its about getting people already living AWD lifestyles to get a mini AWD instead. If the new design shaves enough weight so the finished car gets the same or better mileage, its a home run. </p>
<p>Lexus and Subaru live by racing-in-mud commercials. Imagine the PR if Mini beat both of them in an actual race.</p>
<p>I live in the Mountains above Los Angeles, at 5,000 feet, where it snows…..and would buy a Mini AWD in a heartbeat if they made one. Then I could get rid of my Peice-o-Junk AWD Honda Element.
Please make me one!!!
pleeeeeese!!</p>
Why do u think Element AWD is piece of junk…I am thinking of buying one? Thanks….
I want AWD on mini
AWD mini…if the engine kept up with the extra weight and it had a john cooper workz…id get it…definetly
i’m a canadian and with our winter i will be great car with an awd transmission . i’m sure there will be a lot of people like me , my position right now is i want a smaller car that run below the 11L/100km but with a awd . if the awd will be able to buy i will sell my subaru wrx to buy one , my be that mini awd will take some part of people who by subaru for the awd !!!!
cannot wait to order mine…was thinking of going with a used evo IX but i think i’ll wait for the mini AWD…we have two mini copper s models already and love them both…one already has 156,ooo miles on it
<p>I own an 06 mcs. with a few after market addons I love my mini but hate that its front wheel drive. mostly because of the traction lost at every stop light. my mini has 10k miles on it and the front tires are completely baled. an awd system would give me the grip I need. and I believe no matter the weight it adds it would be soooo worth it. I would like to at least see the availabilaty of an aftermarket add on awd if not too pricy id buy one. just imajin 400hp awd mcs no wheel spin. you could market it as a safty option and im shure people that buy other awd cars like the suzuki what ever its called would rather a mini awd. I have been actually considering it myself just for the awd option but would hate to get rid of my mini for some cheap suzuki. but I know the suzuki awd with some performance parts would be fun. may be if everyone traded their mini for an awd suzuki they would concider making an awd mini. naaaa that car just not the same thing. MINI should work with suzuki they already have the cheapest awd car on the market. at least in the U.S. maybe M7 can make an after market bolt on awd??? WELL IF ANYONE IS LISTENING I WANT ONE. 2009 MINI cooper s rally sport awd turbo with 250 plus hp hmm that do sound good. just think you in your mini going 80 mph on a dirt road around a corner not going streight. please MINI PPAPAPPAALEASE make an awd.</p>