When I bought my current 2005 MCS I opted (almost against my better judgement) for tire and wheel insurance. The plan was listed $500 and was good for five years and any tire and wheel I put on my car. Since my MCS came with the ultra pricey JCW 18″ (R95) wheels and runflats I figured the odds might be in my favor to recoup the investment. 18 months later I’ve done just that.
Last summer I sold my JCW wheels and bought 18″ OZ Ultraleggeras. They’ve given the steering a light yet knife edge quality to it – exactly what I was hoping for. The 18″ version of the Ultraleggeras (leggera is light in Italian) weigh in at a mere 16.9 lbs and have proven to be incredibly strong over the notoriously 3rd world like roads of Chicago. Up until last week I had hit potholes and frost heaves that I swear cracked my sunroof. We’re talking bad enough to give you temporary double vision. Yet the OZ’s had always come out unscathed. This experience seemed to back up what the fine folks at Tirerack claimed when they mentioned lower than normal damage rates for the Ultraleggeras – something I assumed at the time was just lip service.
So as I entered a particularly nasty onramp on Lake Short Drive in Chicago (you can see it here), I knew an impact was coming. I had hit it before many times, each successive time growing more confident in the OZ’s ability to take the punishment. However this particular day traffic was thick and flowing fast. I decided to take the right lane (by far the worst of the two) and get around a group of cabs while I had a chance. This would prove to be my wheel’s undoing.
I hit the buckled pavement (an irregularity there for years due to two section of road coming together) at a slight angle while steering to the left. What I didn’t realize at the time was that this delivered the brunt of the impact to one area of one wheel – the right front. I immediately recognized the impact and begin to assess the situation. There was no change in handling and at speeds of 60mph there was no obvious affects of a bent wheel. So I continued on a few miles home where I parked the car. I didn’t check the wheel because I simply forgot – a testament to the number of major potholes I’ve hit over the years (despite perfecting the art of avoiding them).
A few days passed before I took the MCS out again to make a Saturday morning run to Peet’s Coffee. The car drove fine and I didn’t think to even check the front right for damage. I parked across the street and looked back (to admire the OZs of course) as I crossed the street. To my horror there appeared to be a 30 degree angle where there shouldn’t be one in the right front wheel. I blinked and looked again. Still there. I repeated. Yeah, still there.
But my reaction was more awe than anger. The damage was so bad that it was almost beyond belief. Yet the tire was holding air perfectly. I looked closer. The rim was not only bent – it was split. And you could clearly see through where the lip separated from the rest of the wheel. I was standing in the middle of a busy street with a look of a proud father staring at a wheel bent to grotesque proportions. Thoughts on garage wall-art came to mind.
So yes, wheel and tire insurance may not be a bad idea for those who (A) own small side-wall tire/wheel set-ups and (B) live in areas where roads approach 3rd world country status. Just read the fine print carefully and make sure that any tire/wheel combination you put on the car is covered. Also feel free to negotiate – there plenty of room for you to get a better deal and the dealer to still make money.
The total bill btw was close to $600. And yes, everything was covered.
Awesome? I think that’s the right answer.
I found a pothole leaving VIR last November that made one of my R99s a little less round. Tire shop got it balanced out perfectly, but the clock’s ticking.
You’re experience with these have me eyeballing the Ultraleggeras in matte graphite for the inevitable replacement.
Are those Avon tires?
>Awesome? I think that’s the right answer.
Yeah that’s it actually. It was … Awsome?
>Are those Avon tires?
Nope. They’re <a href="http://motoringfile.com/2006/09/25/mf-review-kumho-ecsta-spt/" rel="nofollow">Kumho ESCTA SPTs</a>.
hmm. Thanks for pointing that out. I’m running 18″Superturismo’s with thin rubber and i’ve been driving around Toronto waiting for this to happen to me. I’ve been lucky the past 2 years and i could see the luck coming to an end pretty soon.
I did similar damage to my Ro_ja a while back. Still trying to get the state to pay for it…
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does it protect against asthetic stuff like curbings & debris, or just major bends & breaks?
Wow Gabe, that is pretty dang gnarly. I can’t believe that tire is still holding air. Where might one procure this insurance you speak of?
“Wheel eating frost heave” !!! – LOL!
Thanks for sharing. Very interesting. I do live in a third world country, Guatemala. That’s why when I picked up my 2005 MCS in Los Angeles to drive down here, I had them take off the 17″ rims and put on 16″ rims. So far it has worked out and use we have serious potholes.
If I lived in the States, I would definitely consider both your rims and the insurance!
Ouch. A friend of mine ordered a set of 19″ rims and tires from Tirerack for his MB SL500. I told him right away to get the insurance and get two extra rims(different width front and back)since the rims will be discontinued. He called me back a few months later to thank me. NYC roads FTW!!!
Oh, btw, did you check your strut tower?
What was in the $600 bill? For one wheel and one tire?
Does the plan cover the full 5 years no matter how many claims you might make?
I wonder if a viable alternative would be to keep your $500 in the bank and instead utilize the services of a wheel repair company <em>if</em> you were unlucky enough to bend a wheel? If you don’t need them, you’re ahead $500 plus interest.
There are a number of reputable wheel repair companies out there that can repair and <em>refinish </em> alloy wheels like new for under $150. I know it can sound too good to be true, but I used <a href="http://www.fixrim.com/" rel="nofollow">this company</a> when my wife curbed an alloy wheel on her Maxima.
The repaired wheel was perfect. Take a look at their before and after pictures on their site.
Again, this is only one of a number of companies that specialize in this business.
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Are these run-flat tyres? If so there is no better advert for them. If not the tubeless tyre obviously is still seating on the bead area of the rim. I can’t understand why you didn’t get wheel balance problems.
Also, did you get your wheel alignment checked? A impact of this big has surely altered the geometry a little and will soon scrub out your tyre.
>What was in the $600 bill? For one wheel and one tire?
Wheel and Tire and associated alignment.
>Does the plan cover the full 5 years no matter how many claims you might make?
Varies plan to plan but mine does.
>I wonder if a viable alternative would be to keep your $500 in the bank and instead utilize the services of a wheel repair company if you were unlucky enough to bend a wheel? If you don’t need them, you’re ahead $500 plus interest.
That would be a good <em>if</em> don’t plan to utterly destroy the wheel as I did.
>There are a number of reputable wheel repair companies out there that can repair and refinish alloy wheels like new for under $150.
However keep in mind that if you destroy a wheel as pictured above, you’re SOL. No company would (nor should) try to repair something like that.
>Are these run-flat tyres?
Nope. Just plain old Kumho ESCTA SPTs.
>I can’t understand why you didn’t get wheel balance problems.
Either can I. And I am a freak about slight imperfections in an alignment.
>Also, did you get your wheel alignment checked?
Yes.
Wow. Sounds like one heck of an impact. Have you checked your strut towers for mushrooming??
Glad the insurance worked out for you. Guess if you run 18’s it makes sense. I believe it’s a cash cow for those selling it. I have 16 inch wheels & tires with actual sidewalls. I’m gambling they will keep my rims safe.
Anyone know the handling differences on the R56 MCS, with the standard 205 runflats compared to aftermarket 215 non-runflat tires??
Can you say who is behind the insurance – my local dealership offer only covers OEM wheel/tire and I think only one incident per corner.
Experience with chicago roads gaps and construction, along with the horrible potholes just left around boston’s horrible streets, are why I downgraded to 16’s when buying my mini. I’m still glad I did, without any wheel scares since. Insurance is a great idea if you are going to have nice low-profile rims. Damage WILL happen eventually.
There must be a second layer or seal inside your rim, surely that split would have otherwise let any air out.
>There must be a second layer or seal inside your rim, surely that split would have otherwise let any air out.
Again just a normal Kumho. The lip just happened to separate at the right spot.
> Have you checked your strut towers for mushrooming??
Actually it wasn’t a huge impact. But yes – I did check. Thankfully I have the <a href="http://motoringfile.com/2006/08/02/mf-review-m7-strut-tower-reinforcement/" rel="nofollow">M7 Strut Tower Reinforcement Plates</a>.
> I have 16 inch wheels & tires with actual sidewalls. I’m gambling they will keep my rims safe.
For what it’s worth I’ve bent three 15″ and two 16″ wheels vs no 17″ and one 18″ wheel over the years.
Desert Rat Solution: Buy cheap steel wheels, and replace ’em a lot. 😉
>Desert Rat Solution: Buy cheap steel wheels, and replace ‘em a lot. 😉
Ooh I like that. flat black and wide as possible. Screw the brake cooling 🙂
Krylon Black.
Gabe,
I will second the comment from Ian. My 2006 offer (from Knauz) only included OEM tires and rims. Since I use my Flame Spokes with snows and the Pirellis with aftermarket, the offer didn’t make any sense to purchase. Glad it worked for you as I have to continue developing my cat-like reflexes driving in Chicago.
I also got the tire hazzard insurance when I bought my MINI from MINI Center in San Antonio. About a month ago, I got a nail in th sidewall of one of my runflats. Since it was in the sidewall and couldn’t be repaired, the local Discount Tire ordered me a replacement. All $300 of it was covered under the warranty. Not quite reimbursement for the price of the policy, but 1/2-way there after only 1.5 years of driving. I’m happy enough.
Not exactly the same thing, but I bought the tire-replacement insurance when I bought new tires last year. Sure enough, last month I had an impact separation in one tire (looks like a 1″ bump on the sidewall) and Discount Tire replaced it for free as promised. The insurance was $84 for 4 tires, plus $17 to renew it for the new tire. The tire would have been about $160. Any insurance is a gamble, but that doesn’t mean it won’t pay off!
Thanks for sharing especially our ‘third” world type of roads here in chicagoland.
I hope the Olympic Committee will not found out 🙂
Impressive damage – was this the insurance from MINI that covered aftermarket wheels & tires? If so, that’s a ringing endorsement for it.
Hey Gabe, sorry for the damage. But thanks alot for the “write up” on the Ultraleggeras. I just bought them in black for my Pepper White S… I can only second the improved steering feel.
Now all I need, is to get rid of the runflats 🙂
I might consider the insurance myself…
Cheers,
Patrick
I got a 3″ nail in a tire once. I was 200+ miles from a MINI deal and in the middle of a hick town (no offense to those of you who live in hick towns) that obviously didn’t have my size tire. I wasn’t going to drive home with a 3″ nail, so they plugged it. I went to the dealer to get a new tire and they didn’t replace it under the insurance because they said, “nothing is wrong with the tire”.
Another time, I did hit a piece of road that was just cut out for repairs. It was about a 2″ drop and I hit the sharp cut edge coming out of the hole. That tire had a serious slice in it and that was replaced under the insurance.
I also had a second tire that was replace under the insurance. I’d buy it again for the next MINI (Clubman).
Gabe…I can relate. While turning across an intersection with some “spirit” (say 30mph), I encountered a 5-6″ vertical lip of concrete where two slabs had separated and shifted. Needless to say, the bang jolted the car and my low tire pressure light came on. I thought I had blown the front passenger-side tire, and I had purchased the road hazard warranty, so I headed straight to Moritz MINI (35 miles away). I was able to cruise along at 60 mph or so, keeping up with the morning commute. But when I arrived, I was shocked to see that <strong> not only were <em>both</em> my passenger-side tires blown, but <em>both rims were bent as well!</em></strong> The incident was a testament to run-flat technology (and certainly justified my purchase of the road hazard policy).
I don’t remember being offered the tire/wheel insurance when I bought my MCS last year. Though, I wish I had as I just replaced a tire for $415 due to splitting it on one of NYCs metel curbs. Do they still offer the 18 inch Ultraleggeras?
>Do they still offer the 18 inch Ultraleggeras?
<a href="http://www.jdoqocy.com/click-2050196-10399972" rel="nofollow">Yes</a>. I recommend the 42 off-set.
After 1 year of chicago roads, my mini was in bad shape. I took it in recently and so far I’m up to $4,200 in damages to the front wheels, front struts, front suspension. My insurance is gonna cover it, but I cant help but feel I should have made the ciy of Chicago pay for it.
I have 17″ on my MCS and was previously running the Pirelli run-flats (for about 2.5 years) In that time, I had 5 tires replaced ($265 each) and 2 wheels replaced ($300 each) — because of the insurance, i only payed for 1 tire, it was worn beyond the markers and the insurance would not cover it. so, insurance @ $465 versus tire/wheel replacement cost (1660 + labor & tax)… i think i got a good deal. However because of the lost time spent hustling the car back and forth for tire/wheel work, i opted to replace my Pirellis with Kumhos… not run flat, and I run the risk of be stranded since i have not spare, but they ride oh so much better, and i have more confidence when i hit the unavoidable road hazards that Dallas so prominently leaves on its streets.