MF Analysis: Saab’s Future with MINI Engines

This morning BMW and Saab announced that Saab will be using BMW powerplants in future front wheel drive Saab products. However thanks to various sources it’s become clear that Saab has not just signed an agreement to use BMW engines in future products but to use MINI’s current Prince range of engines in several products. We can confirm the first will be the 9-2 hatchback potentially followed by the next generation 9-3 family of vehicles.
But why would BMW give Saab the same engine range from the MINI for a car that will likely compete with it? Economies of scale would be a good reason. But we’re not so sure it’s that simple.
We know that 2013 will bring a new MINI hatch that will in turn bring an entire new MINI family of small cars. We also know that BMW is planning on using new three cylinder engines in this new range of products along with a new generation of FWD (and potentially even RWD) BMWs. So where does the Prince family of engines fit into BMW’s future plans?
We believe MINI will continue to use the Prince in the R58 Coupé, R59 Roadster and R60 Countryman (and other R60 derivatives) well into the second half of the decade. But the start of a transition to a new generation of three and four cylinder powerplants will begin in 2013 with the next generation MINI hatch and likely continue with the next generation Coupé, Roadster and Countryman line.
So what is Saab actually getting? It would seem that BMW is selling an engine on the back half of its lifecycle that won’t be in any BMW or MINI products after the 2018 model year. In short it’s a good sale for BMW. Proven technology but yesterday’s technology that is soon to be on its way out. And on Saab’s end it’s a good buy in that the Prince family of engines has a lot of life left in it. At it’s core there are few 1.6L engines that bridge the gap from efficiency to performance so well. And to develop an engine of this caliber from scratch would cost hundreds of millions of dollars. Something newly independent Saab simply doesn’t have.
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<p>So, to sum up, we have a fussy little French Prince sold by wily Germans to unsuspecting Swedes.</p>
<p>It’s a German designed, English built (with a French block) and sold to the <em>upstart</em> Swedes.</p>
<p>I’m guessing that Saab will only be getting the turbocharged engine, which makes sense for that brand. I owned a 900S with GMs V6. (Don’t judge me! I was young(er) and uninformed.) Worst ownership experience of my life. While I loved the ergonomics of that car, the electrical and mechanical gremlins were just…spooky. I think this is a smart move for Saab. I do wonder what this 9-2 will look like.</p>
<p>Car magazine published <a href="URL" rel="nofollow">an article</a> last April, and Saab’s new owner, Victor Muller said, “I don’t think a Saab 9-2 would compete with the Mini. It will be as iconic a design as the Mini though… A new Saab 9-2 would not be retro – it would be a massive mistake to make it into a retro car. But to have all the Saab DNA in it and to be a very modern Saab – that would be our wish.” The rendering in that article is said to be based on a hand-drawn sketch of Muller’s vision for that car.</p>
<p>Sorry, the link above didn’t seem to work. I hope <a href="http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-new-cars/Search-Results/Spyshots/Saabs-Mini-rivalling-9-2-scooped-by-CAR" rel="nofollow">this one</a> does.</p>
<p>Yes this makes perfect sense, the same way Mini ended up with the Tritec.</p>
<p>Its like most people with multiple background.</p>
<p>These Saabs are SOOO UGLY! Always have been. Still they make fighter planes – funny that a country that was neutral in WW2 makes fighter planes to fight who?</p>
<p>The Prince is a great engine, and if it helps SAAB get back on track, all the better. I’m excited for non-GM SAABs. BMW/MINI has made a smart move on this, continuing on making this engine range will really make it pay off in the end.</p>
<p>The Tritec was a Chrysler design built in a joint venture plant between Chrysler and BMW that didn’t pan out because of Daimler buying out Chrysler. So not very similar at all. No one bought the Tritec after the 1st gen MINI used it, and it barely saw use in Chrysler products (Neons and PT Cruisers sold outside the USA). Plus, the Tritec, while reliable, was not a very sophisticated engine.</p>
<p>On the German – French – English- Swedes line, aren’t the Swedes now actuallly the Dutch (Stryker) or is it the Chinese (or isn’t that Volvo)?</p>
<p>I believe Saab is now owned by Spyker, not Stryker.</p>
<p>Or is it the Indians? Oh no, that’s Jaguar….</p>