Three months and 2,500 miles. The Countryman has proven quite popular when it comes to what car to take every morning out of my garage. While my 2004 BMW 3 Series ZHP has that perfect, almost M car feel, the Countryman has been winning out lately as a better commuting choice. Nimble and quick enough while achieving almost 28 mpg in the city recently, it’s hard to argue with the CM as a daily driver. Where it loses out is when I factor in my new BMW 1M (in the middle above). On a sunny dry day with the 1M at my disposal, the Countryman doesn’t stand a chance of getting out of the driveway unless there’s people or things to transport.
Yet the Countryman is a different kind of MINI. One that gets driven more often for different reasons than any before.
Living with the CM day to day I can’t help but recall my previous MINIs and how much fun they were day to day. The problem (as we all know) was that they were limited when it came to cargo capacity and could be tiring with ultra quick steering and poor ride. With the R60 MINI has created a car that gives you the other end of the spectrum. As I wrote in my first drive in Austria a year and a half ago, the Countryman has 80% of the hatch’s attitude and 150% of the versatility. Is it worth the trade-off? As always that’s a decision that each prospective owner has to ask themselves. For my needs right now (and given what’s in my garage) the R60 feels like the perfect choice.
But one thing remains; if you want the ultimate MINI motoring experience, the hatch (or convertible and now the Coupe) is still the pick of the range. And I’ll go one further. I can’t imagine many cars under $50K that could persuade me from grabbing the keys to my 1M as much as a well specced JCW R56 or R58 could. There’s something undeniably fun about a traditional small MINI and the JCW turns that up (whatever it is) to 11.
Will the JCW Countryman pull that same trick? I’d be surprised if does the full 11 given the nature of the beast. But then again they do pretty well on the rally stages of the WRC already. Check back here in about a year.
<p>The car leans too much in turns to really get anywhere close to an 11. Tops out at about a 7 or so from the driving I’ve done. When there are some better anti-sway bars and the like out there to lower and increase roll stiffness, then it will be more fun to drive.</p>
<p>But the room and the number of seats are the same thing that get me into my MDX when it’s time to move a bunch of stuff.</p>
<p>But 24 city? That’s a bit depressing. Our base clubman gets 36 combined, and my modded up the wazoo 02S gets 24 city….</p>
<p>36 combined? Are you going downhill all day? 24 in the city with an all wheel drive car is pretty incredible (considering it’s stop and go and I have a heavy right foot).</p>
<p>Gabe, if 24 city for an AWD car is “incredible”, then how would you describe the fuel consumption numbers for the new Impreza? </p>
<p>The last time I drove an impreza (previous gen) around the city I saw around 20.</p>
<p>According to Subaru’s website, the Impreza gets 20 mpg city and only 27 highway on its smallest, most efficient 4-cylinder. Having recently driven the current crop of Subarus myself, 24 mpg in town in the Countryman is not only impressive on the face of it, but incredible considering how much more fun it is to drive.</p>
<p>The numbers for the new Impreza may be better than those for the CMSALL4, but not by much: 27city/36hwy, with the CVT. It only puts out 148HP and 145ft-lb and a 0-60mph in 8secs, with the manual 5-spd.</p>
<p>So… then Impreza is “just slightly better than incredible”? That works.</p>
<p>Wonder what all the fuss was about so I looked at the post again. Yeah 24 isn’t incredible. And it’s not accurate either. I’ve been getting almost 28 (27.6) recently. Sorry about that – my fault for not double checking my notes.</p>
<p>zing.</p>
<p>dayum. i think 28 city qualifies as “incredible”</p>
<p>Gabe, I’m getting 35/36 combined in my Clubman. Car is now 3 years old and over 40k miles and mpg has improved in the last year or so.</p>
<p>As a point of reference my 1M does about 18 in the city. The last long term M3 got about 14.</p>
<p>Nope, I live at 1400 feet, and my wife’s work is at about 25′, and the kids schools are at about 100′ It’s up and down hills near and around Alice’s restaurant. I think that the little motor is just working too hard in this chassis, so it’s spending a lot of time at very high loads and the gas mileage really sucks. (Kind of like why a Smart car gets such crappy mileage for it’s size.)</p>
<p>Comparing it to the 1M and your older I6 isn’t really a fair shake either, yes, it’s a lot better than the number that they are putting out, but my 65 Mustang with a 5.0 EFI motor and a mild cam in it gets 22-24 MPG, and it’s over 3200 lbs. Heck, if you drove an escalade, it would seem like great mileage as well.</p>
<p>I think the Countryman needs a bigger mill that doesn’t have to work as hard to get everything up and moving. The Prince is a wonderful engine in terms of efficiency, but 1.6 L just isn’t enough to drive the Countryman S the way many will want to drive it.</p>
<p>Agreed</p>
<p>N20, perhaps?</p>
<p>It would fit.</p>
<p>Gabe, do you (or the other MF guys) know if the JCW version of the R60 will be available for the ALL4?</p>
<p>Gabe- always jealous of your garage. Even more so as you have the best E46 made and a 1M.</p>
<p>The Countryman serves a great need in the MINI community. It’ll keep people who need something bigger in the fold and attract new people. Looking at recent sales numbers, it’s doing it’s job.</p>
<p>Does it roll more and lose some of the “MINI” feeling. Yes. You can’t get bigger, add weight and not lose feel. But, it is a very MINI CUV in terms of character. The full year review will be very insightful.</p>
<p>I’d be hard pressed to drive the Countryman if I had a 1M sitting there though…. :)</p>
<p>So basically Gabe the R60 has its place. When the weather is bad and the risk of other drivers crashing into you, take the Countryman. When you want to park in Chicago with risk of having a car crash into yours or broken into, take the Countryman. My question would be what percentage of the time would you say your using the unique functionality of the Countryman that a R56 would not work for the task?</p>
<p>Basically any time I need to take more than two people somewhere or when I’m commuting. With that criteria its very useful. The R56 doesn’t do more than two in comfort.</p>
<p>Guess it comes down to how many people or items you commute with. Think a majority of all commuters seem to go solo or with one additional person. You might have a different reality but to me it seems like the a majority could be handled with a standard R56 or a Clubman as efficiently. That could change of course when the snow falls there and the AWD system might help (not that I have ever had any issue in a FWD or RWD in massive walls of snow personally). Guess it comes down to how often you load people into the back of the R60 and if that is a large enough number to make a Clubman a hassle to deal with.</p>
<p>Where I live (and ski) AWD is at least 50% about avoiding the requirement to put on chains. In the dark. In freezing rain. On the side of a major highway. </p>
<p>And when you wake up the next morning to 15″ of fresh, bust through a big berm on your driveway, navigate a few miles of semi-plowed roads with snow up to the hubs, and secure your place in line for the first chair… AWD freaking rules!</p>
<p>I have lived in multiple places where winter is the ruling force of nature. This includes and epic blizzard and 20″ of overnight snow in Denver many years ago, multitudes of trips over passes during the height of winter. All of this in FWD and RWD cars with no issues. In more recent years have been in deep snow and freezing rain with the GP and have stopped a number of times to help people off the sides of the road in AWD and 4×4 vehicles.</p>
<p>Not disputing AWD could help but there is much more to successful winter driving than part time AWD. Actually the height clearance in the R60 is likely a more helpful parameter heh.</p>
<p>You are a very wise and worldly man, JonPD. I think I speak for all of us here when I say that it is an honor to study at the feet of a master such as yourself. We all have much to learn. Please continue.</p>
<p>Good attempt at wit that.guy hah</p>
<p>What “city” do you guys live in to yield these high mpg? I live in Boston and my Cooper S gets 29 combined.</p>