This is the question many of us have been asking for years now. But now with the UKL platform, that change might be upon us. We’ve had this debate on Whiteroofradio several times and I’ve recently been of the opinion that MINI ownership is increasing at a much faster pace than MINI enthusiasts are being created.
The Automotive News Europe did a deep dive into the question, interviewing industry veterans and MINI executives.
“They are definitely reaching a new audience,” said Ted Marzilli, CEO of YouGov’s BrandIndex, which measures brand and advertising strength. “The question is whether all of their customers will come along for the ride.”
Mini executives say the brand needs to change. Not only are buyers moving increasingly to SUVs as fuel prices have dropped, but German luxury models are competing with Minis too.
“I call it coming out of its teen years and becoming a young adult,” said Peter Schwarzenbauer, who is BMW’s global head of the Mini brand. “Size-wise, we had to respond to feedback from consumers and offer more practicality. Some diehard Mini fans will say we’re expanding the portfolio too much, but we’re gaining new fans.”
Mini’s image as a small car also has held it back, according to brand executives. The vehicles are actually quite roomy for their size, but this is difficult sometimes to get across to consumers, said Tom Noble, head of Mini brand communications in the US.
“A lot of people never considered Mini because they think the cars are too small,” Noble said. “We’re trying to open the brand to people who need something more functional.”
As most MF readers know, when the MINI was launched in 2002 (in the US) demand was high. Prices were nearly always at sticker and ordering a car was almost mandatory. Over the years MINI’s range grew and sales surged along with it. Automotive News points out that sales hit 58,000 in 2008 and peaked at 66,000 in 2013. And that’s when gas prices began to fall.
According to MINI’s head of Marketing Tom Noble “Fuel economy used to be the No. 2 reason people bought Minis, after sporty driving. Now it’s reason No. 12.”
The move to larger cars seems to be successful according to Peter Schwarzenbauer. The four-door Mini Cooper, which debuted in late 2014, is the brand’s hottest vehicle, with 75 percent of its buyers new to Mini, he said.
Interestingly Schwarzanbauer mentions that MINI will add a fifth vehicle, but he has hadn’t decided what it will be. The car will be something that can sell to a broad audience, he said.
Rumors have indicated that MINI is considering everything from a sedan to a high-end roadster. However given this comment it would seem that MINI is intent on producing a fifth vehicle that can find volume and won’t be another niche product like the previous generation Roadster or Coupe.
Of course marketing can help as well. According to Autonews, MINI’s Super Bowl ad got a lot of buzz.
“In January, before it ran, 2.6 percent of new-car shoppers considered Mini. As the commercial has run through March, that number has grown to 3.4 percent, according to YouGov. During the same time, the percentage of television viewers who have seen Mini’s advertising doubled to 10 percent.”
While the core of the brand will remain the two door hatch, the next generation Countryman will continue to go bigger – even larger than the just released Clubman.
“Schwarzenbauer said the car will definitely grow in size but added that the brand is hitting its limits both in terms of what kind of cars it is selling and how big they can get. ‘With the Clubman, we have about reached the maximum size for Mini,’ he said. ‘Otherwise, the name doesn’t fit.’”
That last bit will be music to the ears of many of you. While the MINI brand needs to grow to survive, that growth can’t go against its brand values. As BMW knows perhaps better than any automaker, core brand attributes are absolutely essential for selling premium products.
Source: Automotive News Europe.
<p>As much as we like to think we’re super important, let’s face it a car manufacturer can’t survive on enthusiasts alone – and if MINI could then the roadster will still be around…</p>
<p>I think MINI needs to follow BMW’s lead on this. Yes you work to keep your enthusiasts happy, but at the same time continue to look for ways to expand in the mainstream. Some of those new mainstream customers will become enthusiasts themselves – and those that don’t, well they’re still customers…</p>
<p>From a marketing standpoint I understand the corporate logic outlined in the article. The public has spoken and they want larger and more refined MINIs. I get it. The R50/53 will be our E30 M3. From a personal standpoint, especially in terms of design, I lost interest in MINI with the intro of the second gen cars and am completely turned off by the current generation. I still come here to occasionally check on news of the Rocketman.</p>
<p>Anyone who still visits the cross-section of online MINI enthusiast forums already knows the answer is clearly “no.” Schwarzanbauer’s opinion that the “fans” desires can all be met by the F56 JCW [mentioned in the Automotive News article but not here] is laughable and shows a complete lack of understanding (or disregard) of the unique co-alignment of conditions that created the original stable of diehard fans of the brand. The evolution of participation in MTTS should be a great barometer of the gradual replacement of those for whom MINI is a passion with those for whom MINI is simply transportation.</p>
<p>As a long time fan like many others on here, I would bet that a good number of the readers are owners back from 02-06. They have to make cars that sell and appeal to the masses but the fans were buying based on quirks and performance. The new interiors truly are fantastic but do they have to be? Can’t the build amazing cars with a few less touches and continue to build on the performance side instead of the luxury? If they do a JCW with DCT and AWD it would be great. To keep fans they need a small two door fast car so why not do a Rocketman in small production? They did a great job with the Checkmate and many of the other limited models (although the Goodwood was a tad over the top) so keep those going at least. Like the others have said in this post, if you can sell 5000 cars that some people are crazy about or sell 20,000 cars that masses will drive, we all know which will win.</p>
<p>BMW has admitted, privately, that it will never again allow itself to be unduly influenced by MINI fans. The feedback from fans for the concept Roadster, Coupe and Paceman was ecstatic, and yet all three models flopped spectacularly.</p>
<p>Not only that, it is well recorded that R50/53 made very little money for BMW. In 2015, however, MINI sold more cars than ever before, by a sizeable margin, and the BMW Group recorded its most profitable year in its illustrious century of manufacturing.</p>
<p>In my opinion with the exception of the roadster, which is/was beautiful, the Coupe and the Paceman were answers to questions nobody asked.</p>
<p>Two things popped out at me in this article. #1:
“Schwarzanbauer mentions that MINI will add a fifth vehicle, but he has hadn’t decided what it will be. The car will be something that can sell to a broad audience, he said.”
– Clearly by the tone, the Rocketman/Mini Minor concept is off the table.</p>
<p>2:</p>
<p>“we have about reached the maximum size for Mini,’ he said. ‘Otherwise, the name doesn’t fit.'”
– Really? Making that statement now? That ship has sailed!</p>
<p>Mini was never intended to be a Toyota or a Ford. It was intended to be different. Defy normal. To be a nitch car. And maybe the customer base was small. But that didn’t stop it surviving half a century, even living past the end of its parent company (a few times) and going on to be the legendary Car of the Century.</p>
<p>Growing up from teen to adult? That’s utterly absurd.</p>
<p>From an enthusiast perspective, MINI has lost their way. I owned an R53 for 12 years and loved it. Last year I traded it for a 2015 JCW Hardtop with manual transmission. I just sold the JCW. I liked it, but didn’t love it. Even the MINI from the current lineup most aimed at the enthusiast didn’t measure up – too many unnecessary gimmicks and distractions – too many things that irritated me.</p>
<p>It’s possible to build a range of cars on one platform that cater to the basic needs of some buyers for an economical and practical car and extend that same platform in a way that meets the very different needs of the enthusiast, for example the Focus – ST – RS and Golf – GTI -R.</p>
<p>If MINI ever focuses on providing enthusiasts with what they want, I could be back. In the meantime, my new Golf R with manual transmission is what the JCW should have been.</p>
<p>I’ve been wondering for a while if the number of comments posted on MotoringFile (and site visits) would begin to fall as the traditional enthusiast starts to feel less connected with the direction of the modern MINI.</p>
<p>I still check this site from time to time for hopes of catching an update on a Rocketman or Superlegerra. But I fear the chances of either of those coming to fruition is now zero.</p>
<p>Can’t blame the parent company for taking the brand in this direction. Will be interesting to see where it’s at in 2020 … and I’ll continue to keep an eye on how the models (and their uptake) unfolds.</p>
<p>I guess they really need the Clubman to be a hit</p>
<p>I bought a 2015 Mini Cooper S Coupé last May—probably one of the last ones produced before they stopped making them. I love this car, and weep for its demise, but it’s probably the last Mini I will buy. The coupe is my second Mini after a great 2008 Mini Coupe hardtop, btw. For me, BMW’s decision to kill the center speedo was representative of the wrong kind of corporate mentality that we see affecting Mini’s sale performance, and unfortunately, I already know I won’t get another Mini without the iconic center speedo.</p>
<p>That’s just me, though. The main problem, however, is that BMW doesn’t know when to listen to enthusiasts (Paceman), but also that you can’t listen to customers sometimes. Their desperate drive to compete against SUVs is case in point.</p>
<p>Right now, because of that ill-considered chase, there actually isn’t very much differentiation between any of the models, even when comparing the Coupe to the Countryman, while it adds complexity to the buying decision and dramatically increases production costs while spreading development resources thin. Why? Because for the price of a Countryman, you can get a much roomier car for much less than performs just as well or better. Countryman just can’t compete with crossovers if BMW is going after the SUV market.</p>
<p>Instead, we get vehicles that try to be larger, but are not actually much larger because the designs are constained by the need to be “mini,” thus, putting them at a disadvantage that is diametrically opposed to kind of customer BMW is going after. Those consumers go elsewhere at the end of the day. My take is that BMW needs to focus on the fundamentals—performance, efficiency, and value—rather than producing Mini models based on customers surveys.</p>
<p>Five models is too many for Mini. I finds it’s ridiculous that BMW thinks Mini can support that many models in the first place! At most, Mini should have three highly differentiated models to choose from, and make sure each of those models are best in class. Can anyone say any of the current models are best in class, when considering performance, fuel efficiency, price, and technology?</p>
<p>Case in point, my stick shift 1996 Acura Integra LS delivered 142 hp and better MPG than the current Minis. That’s kind of sad. We can thank BMW for better build quality, but declining sales woes are symptoms of the fact that BMW only understands Mini at a superficial level because Mini has barely budged on the performance and even regressed on the MPG front.</p>
<p>I’ve dreamed of Mini producing a base hardtop that can do 0-to-60 in about 6 while delivering 50 average MPG. Plus having a Mini Connected system that actually gets software updates to keep up with technology.</p>
<p>That would be an insanely fun car to drive, and would be insanely popular and create new fans who then promote Mini to their friends and family. Maybe it’s asking for too much, but again, the point is that BMW hasn’t delivered despite what they might believe in their marketing literature.</p>
<p>So that, my friends, is where we’re at. BMW seems content with putting merely average technology and performance into whatever design their committee approves, and then wondering where the customers are. It’s only a matter of time before WW sales follow the same path as U.S. sales because Mini is, sadly, lost in the woods looking for its soul.</p>