Here’s a question that we’ve seen a lot of. What will actually make it to the next generation MINI (the R56) from what we’ve seen in the recent MINI Frankfurt Concept? While we’ve already written extensively on what the R56 will look like inside and out, this subject is probably worth revisiting now that we’ve had time to digest the new MINI Frankfurt Concept a bit. We don’t necessarily have definitive answers at this point but we can at least give some pretty well educated opinions on what details we’ll most likely see in production. So let’s go through the list:
Front grille: While the shape and design may make it, the fat chrome slats will probably change slightly. One thing that will have to be added compared to the concept car is a low air intake for the inter-cooler for MINI’s equipped with the turbo version of the new engine.
The one piece bonnet and bumper: Nope. And the jury is still out on whether we’ll see a clamshell bonnet like the current car. The last we heard (this past spring) was surprisingly yes. However that may still change.
The silver accent in front of the windscreen: probably not but expect some new funky side turn signal and vent treatment. However do look for the recessed windshield wiper design to be used for 2007.
The wheels: I can’t imagine these monsters will make it. That said expect the next MINI to accommodate larger wheels and tires.
The dual hinged door and boot: hard to say about the boot but it would be surprising to see such a seemingly a costly mechanism make it to production. The door seems even less likely.
The floating seats: automakers have been showing off this proposed design for years now in concept cars yet no one has had the guts to take it into production. I’d expect MINI to be no different in this regard. Component failures like seat mounting a few years down the road would not be a pretty sight.
The dash design: Yes. Here’s an interesting one. Take away the pricey surface materials, add some trim, some cupholders, squint, and you’re looking at the interior of the next MINI. In fact you can clearly see this in the photos above. The top is of the new MINI Frankfurt Concept. The bottom is a photo leaked from an official design mock-up of the 2007 MINI. The similarities are obvious and quite telling. (you can see a non-nav version here).
Speedometer mounted LCD/Nav panel: Yes, and with that screen MINI will most likely offer the iDrive interface (as seen in the leaked prototype pic on the right). Of course this will remain purely optional as it currently is on the BMW 1 and 3 series. Why would BMW do this? From a technical standpoint the answer is simple, the electronics system in the new MINI is essentially the same as the new 1 and 3 series BMWs. And since both those cars make use of iDrive on Nav equipped cars, it’s probably easier to use that rather than engineer an entirely different solution.
Visible C-Pillar: According to sources this will be indeed make it into production. Undoubtedly this will save some production cost and allow the MINI to create some design separation by creating a “floating” roof design on some models (with black plastic) and a design similar to the concept for others.
We’ll will have more on the next generation MINI in the coming weeks and months. In the meantime, If there’s something that you feel was missed above that you’d like some answers on, feel free to ask it in the comment section below.
<p>I swear that grey dash looks like the front of a 1958 Edsel.</p>
<p>Ee-gads!!…. I guess I’m getting old, but I just don’t like the new dashboard design (either photo). </p>
<p>I was always a fan of the ‘downtubes’ on either side of the current dash. They seemed to make the interior look a bit more muscular and they are actually functional – when auto-xing or during spirited motoring anyway. The new dash concept doesn’t give you anything to brace your leg against.</p>
<p>The new dash just looks…well…too ‘buck-rodgers-ish’ for me. Too whimpy.</p>
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<p>The new dash concept doesn’t give you anything to brace your leg against.</p>
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<p>Actually on the leaked mock-up (which is likely what we’ll see) there is black bracing where the down-tubes would be. As much as I like the idea and look of the down-tubes, but 6’2″ inch frame doesn’t work to well with them. This new solution looks to give a bit more room as well as allow for bracing.</p>
<p>Also the pictured front seat belt design depends on the seat structure to be extremely strong. At least with the belts being anchored to the frame if the seat structure fails you are still kept in place by the belt. This new design depends fully on the seat structure. Almost as lame as the seat belt design of a few years back where the belt was anchored to the door frame.</p>
<p>I also see this wagon frame as having a lot of flex. </p>
<p>And do I see the I-yi-yi-Drive.</p>
<p>I think the interior looks cheap, something that you would see in a Geo Metro!</p>
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<p>I think the interior looks cheap, something that you would see in a Geo Metro!</p>
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<p>Okay, just to clarify here neither of these represent the final interior. One is a concept that is using high-dollar materials that will never see the light of day. The other is a mock-up put together with clay and plastic.</p>
<p>I’ll be glad when more news comes out about the new model, because this is becoming a very dead horse.</p>
<p>MINI Frankfurt’s 2-spoke: lovely.</p>
<p>I hope MINI offers a light interior, at least for the next convertible.</p>
<p>The proportions are off with the tach and speedo. Too big, Too small.</p>
<p>Nothing about that interior would budge me from my ’05. Looks to me like it’s going nowhere fast.</p>
<p>George Jetson’s MINI?</p>
<p>Gabe,</p>
<p>Thanks for your thoughts and observations on what may be the next MINI. Wether I agree with anything being said or not it’s nice to have a forum for our thoughts.</p>
<p>Also, never cared for the front hinged boot, like I had on an older BMW, always found it to be a pain in the ……………..! I want the thing out of my way not the other way around. I think you had said in an earlier post that you never heard of anyone complaining about that feature on their old BMW’s…..I did.</p>
<p>Much as I like the current interior (including the downtubes), the interior of the non-nav mockup looks cleaner, less busy.</p>
<p>The interior of the Franfurt concept is obviously a piece of art, meant to evoke the past. In fact, it reminds me of nothing so much as a late 50s American car, maybe a Rambler.</p>
<p>I hope they’ll keep a three-spoke wheel as an option. (I know: this comment has the potential to start another battle in the steering-wheel wars.)</p>
<p>Downtubes stink.</p>
<p>I don’t mind the current interior, but I dislike the downtubes. It always is in the way for my right leg, and I’m a short 5-foot-6 driver. I can’t imagine how annoying it must be for someone 6 feet or taller!</p>
<p>The new dashboard gets rid of the downtubes, and I think that might be a good thing. I like the new interior. I think many people say it looks too cheap and stark, but I think if you see it in person, it would look awesome. (But then again, it reminds me of my iMac, the soft, translucent frosted white plastic look).</p>
<p>well, at least there is a hope for going back to the two spoke steering wheel.</p>
<p>Thanks – great Jon – Tell us how you really feel :-)</p>
<p>Oh, by the way – I’m 6’1″ – and as I stated up top, I love the tubes.</p>
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<p>Short, try being 5 foot 1!!! Can’t say the downtubes get in my way 🙂 Even if they did, I love the look of them.</p>
<p>The question should be….what are the DT’ getting in the way of?</p>
<p>The downtubes were one of the ralley cues that drew me to the car. Realizing they were plastic at the dealership started as real hate relationship with the buckrodgers interior. I eventually bought it kit and kaboodle. It’s funny to hear the Frankfurt’s one called buck rodgers. The door inserts and handles of the current MINI work with the downtubes to create a feeling of steel roll bar reinforcement. With their removal, the door handles will have lost their interior tie-in. Do the 07’s door retain the oval and the cross bar? But all the better, if MINI is aiming to claim more Premium Stature, the soft airy feel of the Concept is dead-on. Maybe it will produce fewer “rat-tools”.</p>
<p>RB, I’ve fielded requests to sit in my front seat because they heard it was too tight in the footwell. They’ve agreed it isn’t really, but the downtubes are sited as the complicator. It’s an illusion, IMHO. If your legs are encumbered by the downtubes, perhaps you are sitting too close to the wheel.</p>
<p>I’m 5’11” and after three years of ownership, the only times I’ve been aware of the downtubes are during an autocross and then they’re more help than hindrance.</p>
<p>That speedo looks more and more like a front load washer to me lol…. maybe we can mod it to do a load of laundry on the way to work..</p>
<p>LOL</p>
<p>Unless your bowlegged, I’m not sure how the downtubes get in the way… But I can’t see how that speedo can be easy to read…</p>
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<p>RB, I’ve fielded requests to sit in my front seat because they heard it was too tight in the footwell. They’ve agreed it isn’t really, but the downtubes are sited as the complicator. It’s an illusion, IMHO. If your legs are encumbered by the downtubes, perhaps you are sitting too close to the wheel.</p>
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<p>I must be built like a tyrannosaurus rex. I’m 5’11” and don’t really have a problem with the downtubes, except on long drives; my road trip to NC (from Indy) and back a couple of weeks ago caused me some serious pain in my right hip and knee, but stopping to stretch every couple of hours helped. Even with the cruise set, I couldn’t move my right leg enough to work out the cramps.</p>
<p>I do tend to sit closer to the wheel than strictly necessary, but, for me, it adds to the feeling of being in control. On the long trip, I did move the seat back, but it still wasn’t enough.</p>
<p>Now, as for the footwells, maybe I do have a bit of Rex in me, after all. My freaky-large size 13 stompers make shoe choice essential in that somewhat cramped area. My dress shoes for work are too wide, and I tend to catch both on the pedals. I drove a Jetta for a couple of months before the MINI and I could turn my left foot completely perpendicular between the clutch and the side with room to spare; in the MINI, I have to kind of wiggle my left foot around it.</p>
<p>Oh, and one more thing:</p>
<h1><em>WHY IS THE CONCEPT AN AUTOMATIC?!</em></h1>
<p><em>Geez</em>!</p>
<p>roger that, blalor. I was so psyched to see the shifter enclosed in a true circle. Then i observed in another photo days later the lack of a clutch pedal. What Gives??? I really think that concept was just way over the top in the way of it’s “premium” ornamentation.</p>
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<p>Now, as for the footwells, maybe I do have a bit of Rex in me, after all. My freaky-large size 13 stompers make shoe choice essential in that somewhat cramped area. My dress shoes for work are too wide, and I tend to catch both on the pedals.</p>
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<p>Amen to that. My 13s also have some serious issues in the footwell.</p>
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<p>Oh, and one more thing: WHY IS THE CONCEPT AN AUTOMATIC?! Geez!</p>
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<p>Probably because they couldn’t find the clutch mechanism to stick in there the night before the debut.</p>
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<p>Unless your bowlegged, I’m not sure how the downtubes get in the way… </p>
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<p>Um…. yeah…. no bowlegs.</p>
<p>Regarding the interior…thoughts on Mini going with less plastic in the production models? The concept seems to use premium materials, yet the thought is they won’t make it to production! Argh!</p>
<p>I vote for carbon fiber, real metal, and cloth/carpet for the major surfaces. :)</p>
<p>real metal in the interior? </p>
<p>Paging Ralph Nader… :roll:</p>
<p>Gabe, have any Idea how much an iDrive would cost?</p>
<p>Hey Mark (Ohio)</p>
<p>any relation to JimOhio?</p>
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<p>Gabe, have any Idea how much an iDrive would cost?</p>
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<p>Probably very similar to the current pricing for the Nav.</p>
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<li>The floating seats would help improve interior space efficiency, so hopefully MINI can take a fresh look there.</li>
<li>The seat-mounted seatbelts should improve backseat access in the two doors. I think I’ve seen a few production cars do that, so there’s precedent.</li>
<li>The current and concept interiors are too…feminine. (Sorry, couldn’t come up with a better word.) I agree that pulling the downtubes would head in the wrong direction, so perhaps MINI can compensate elsewhere. Perhaps MINI could take its cue from an aircraft interior where the “stack” has lots more right angles.</li>
<li>I can’t quite make out the shifter legend, but could MINI move R over to the right of 6th?</li>
<li>What, no center armrest? :-)</li>
<li>Are we going to lose some headlight effectiveness?</li>
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<p>So would that be currently in place of, or in addition to Nav? (iDrive)</p>
<p>Whoa…….GMIMI & blalor………. It’s not me who was complaining about the Down Tubes. My retort was for another persons comment. I think they are cool. Besides they are a good place to brace yourself for hard cornering.</p>
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<p>So would that be currently in place of, or in addition to Nav? (iDrive)</p>
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<p>No – iDrive is the interface in which you access the Nav and other electronic goodies.</p>
<p>I wonder if those seats make production will they be electric?</p>
<p>From a previous post:
“but I dislike the downtubes. It always is in the way for my right leg, and I’m a short 5-foot-6 driver. I can’t imagine how annoying it must be for someone 6 feet or taller!”</p>
<p>If the down tubes are a problem, try moving your seat further aft. Your sitting too far forward!</p>
<p>it sucks. I mean i love the 06 model and i will be gettin 06 before it changes into stupid its really disapointing</p>
<p>I am 6’7 and I also would like to see some power seats offered. Makes it easier to get the perfect fit if you have infinite adjustments.</p>
<p>And my size 17’s have a big problem in the footwell also….I have to hit the gas with my toes, but I’m used to it now.</p>
<p>Hi,
Just want to say that as long as there are several variants of fascia, then I think there will be something for everyone!! I think design works best when there are simple lines and not too much going on (Less is More!!) And it is a bold design statement which is always good to see something new.
Anyhow further too that it is nice too see the front split line on the clam-shell bonnet has gone to the lower grille as that was something that really bugged me from exterior looks from the front!! One suggestion to the guys at BMW, please do not use too many electrical features as it will detract from the original MINI experience and ruin this image, but please somewhere safe to stow my iPod would be great without it clunking around at my feet! Also I hope the power unit, can be improved this time, Cooper S is a lot of fun though, just needs more power and torque!!
Also scrap the diesel and auto versions, it is not in true spirit. Aahh……feel better now I got that all off my chest, just some feedback anyhow!</p>
<p>See ya guys – happy driving!!</p>
Why Change a good thing like the current Mini? I just don’t like the new look at all. I’m glad I have a 2004 Mini because I would never buy a 2007 that looks like this one.
is it an automatic or standard???? it looks like a standard shifter, but theres no clutch!