We’ve got numbers. Loads and loads numbers on every aspect of the new 2007 MINI. Everything from top speed (140mph for the MCS) to battery placement (next to the engine as reported previously). For those into the technical aspects of the car, you may want to print it out and start highlighting as this will surely help win some bets in the years to come. Keep in mind that this is UK market specific so it may be slightly different from country to country.
Hmmm… there seem to be more performance related differences between the Cooper and the Cooper S outside of the obvious engine difference than there are in the current cars.
Smaller front brakes on the Cooper than the MCS.
No “sport mode” button on the Cooper (from the options PDF – might be a gimmick anyway).
Who knows what other little differences there will be…
I love that in the current cars, the Cooper has the same brakesand suspension as the MCS (if you spec it that way, at least). Too bad that doesn’t look like it is going to continue.
Will it be enough to make my next MINI an MCS? I don’t know. I enjoy having a Cooper just so people can tell me how wrong I was in my car choice. 😀
For the mileage, divide the number listed i.e. 49.6 (extra-urban) by 1.2 (conversion factor from Imperial to US gallons) to get US MPG of 41.33 MPG (extra-urban) and a combined rating of 34 MPG. Not too bad.
>I love that in the current cars, the Cooper has the same brakesand suspension as the MCS (if you spec it that way, at least).
Little known fact… the R50 MC has different pads than the R53 MCS.
>No “sport mode†button on the Cooper (from the options PDF – might be a gimmick anyway).
Early reports are that the Sport Button is very much not a gimmick. I’m told it will be especially critical for MCSa drivers looking for quicker shifts.
The compression ratios seem surprizingly high especially for the MCS. Is that a function of these being Euro specs? Or will the US version be the same.
Most amazing of all though is peak torque at 1600 rpm!
That twin scroll technology must be honed to perfection.
<blockquote>Little known fact… the R50 MC has different pads than the R53 MCS.</blockquote>
Not according to <a href="http://www.realoem.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.realoem.com/</a> for 09/2002 build cars, which is what I have. All the brake part numbers, including brake pads, are the same.
Of course, that’s for replacement pads, perhaps the ones from the factory are different?
<blockquote>0-62 in 7.1 seconds….isn’t that slower than the current MCS?</blockquote>The <a href="http://www.mini.co.uk/UK/html/model_range/mini_cooper_s/techSpec.html" rel="nofollow">2006 Spec</a> lists 7.2 seconds. I was expecting a larger improvement in the 2007 because of the low-end torque.
<blockquote>The 2006 Spec lists 7.2 seconds. I was expecting a larger improvement in the 2007 because of the low-end torque.</blockquote>
Given that 0-60 times are obtained with high-RPM launches, I wouldn’t expect the greater low-end torque to have any effect on instrumented acceleration testing. However, the car should <em>feel</em> faster due to to more available torque in day-to-day RPM ranges.
Example: My RSX-S is substantially quicker in the 0-60 run than my buddy’s A4 1.8T, but since his car has an extra 25+ lb/ft of torque at 1800 rpms, his car feels faster in “normal” driving.
>Not according to <a href="http://www.realoem.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.realoem.com/</a> for 09/2002 build cars, which is what I have. All the brake part numbers, including brake pads, are the same.
Yeah I was confused by that as well. But someone actually showed me the sentence that mentioned the pad difference in some internal MINI communication from the launch of the car.
overhang rear: 565 mm? what demensions are these stats really in? that’s 1ft 10in. if its really 56.5 mm, then we’re talking 2.2 inches. Maybe this car really has 1,750 HP – that’d be fun. thank’s Gabe for more cool data to keep us occupied and dreaming!
“I saw that on the mini uk site. But then I checked the current 0-60 times they have and its 7.2. I believe the US ones are 6.8.”
Mini USA uses the 0-60 by measure the MCS’s performance and UK uses 0-62. The different of the 2MPH could cost the 0.4sec, especially you will need to shift from 2nd to 3rd at 60MPH (stock car).
Nice MPG figures!!! Are those for real? They seem almost double to what I am getting now …
Also I see the MCS tank is 1/5 larger in capacity than the MC. Is that the case on the current gen as well?
>Nice MPG figures!!! Are those for real? They seem almost double to what I am getting now …
They will be better but remember that this is based on the Imperial gallon and not the gallon used in the US.
>0-62 in 7.1 seconds….isn’t that slower than the current MCS?
BMW is notoriously conservative with their published 0-60 times so I would expect most magazine reviews to do much better.
0-62 in 7.1 seconds….isn’t that slower than the current MCS?
Is there any kind of similar pdf or the like out there for the 2006 Mini that we can compare with? Thanks.
Hmmm… there seem to be more performance related differences between the Cooper and the Cooper S outside of the obvious engine difference than there are in the current cars.
Smaller front brakes on the Cooper than the MCS.
No “sport mode” button on the Cooper (from the options PDF – might be a gimmick anyway).
Who knows what other little differences there will be…
I love that in the current cars, the Cooper has the same brakesand suspension as the MCS (if you spec it that way, at least). Too bad that doesn’t look like it is going to continue.
Will it be enough to make my next MINI an MCS? I don’t know. I enjoy having a Cooper just so people can tell me how wrong I was in my car choice. 😀
For the mileage, divide the number listed i.e. 49.6 (extra-urban) by 1.2 (conversion factor from Imperial to US gallons) to get US MPG of 41.33 MPG (extra-urban) and a combined rating of 34 MPG. Not too bad.
One more question I don’t know if it has been covered but, will the new engine require premium fuel?
Oops – answered my own question by reading under fuel type – 91-98.
>I love that in the current cars, the Cooper has the same brakesand suspension as the MCS (if you spec it that way, at least).
Little known fact… the R50 MC has different pads than the R53 MCS.
>No “sport mode†button on the Cooper (from the options PDF – might be a gimmick anyway).
Early reports are that the Sport Button is very much not a gimmick. I’m told it will be especially critical for MCSa drivers looking for quicker shifts.
The compression ratios seem surprizingly high especially for the MCS. Is that a function of these being Euro specs? Or will the US version be the same.
Most amazing of all though is peak torque at 1600 rpm!
That twin scroll technology must be honed to perfection.
… “strictly for internal use only” … 😉
“Gearbox Fluid Replacement Capacity — Permanent Filling”
What the heck do they mean by that?
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The compression ratios seem surprizingly high especially for the MCS
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<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_direct_injection" rel="nofollow">Direct injection</a> allows higher compression with out pre-ignition problems so compression ratios can be higher.
Wait a sec – RON 91 is approximately pump octane 87 in the USA, right? Would be great if new S can hum on good old regular.
<blockquote>Little known fact… the R50 MC has different pads than the R53 MCS.</blockquote>
Not according to <a href="http://www.realoem.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.realoem.com/</a> for 09/2002 build cars, which is what I have. All the brake part numbers, including brake pads, are the same.
Of course, that’s for replacement pads, perhaps the ones from the factory are different?
<blockquote>0-62 in 7.1 seconds….isn’t that slower than the current MCS?</blockquote>The <a href="http://www.mini.co.uk/UK/html/model_range/mini_cooper_s/techSpec.html" rel="nofollow">2006 Spec</a> lists 7.2 seconds. I was expecting a larger improvement in the 2007 because of the low-end torque.
<blockquote>The 2006 Spec lists 7.2 seconds. I was expecting a larger improvement in the 2007 because of the low-end torque.</blockquote>
Given that 0-60 times are obtained with high-RPM launches, I wouldn’t expect the greater low-end torque to have any effect on instrumented acceleration testing. However, the car should <em>feel</em> faster due to to more available torque in day-to-day RPM ranges.
Example: My RSX-S is substantially quicker in the 0-60 run than my buddy’s A4 1.8T, but since his car has an extra 25+ lb/ft of torque at 1800 rpms, his car feels faster in “normal” driving.
>Not according to <a href="http://www.realoem.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.realoem.com/</a> for 09/2002 build cars, which is what I have. All the brake part numbers, including brake pads, are the same.
Yeah I was confused by that as well. But someone actually showed me the sentence that mentioned the pad difference in some internal MINI communication from the launch of the car.
<blockquote>0-62 in 7.1 seconds….isn’t that slower than the current MCS?</blockquote>
I saw that on the mini uk site. But then I checked the current 0-60 times they have and its 7.2. I believe the US ones are 6.8.
overhang rear: 565 mm? what demensions are these stats really in? that’s 1ft 10in. if its really 56.5 mm, then we’re talking 2.2 inches. Maybe this car really has 1,750 HP – that’d be fun. thank’s Gabe for more cool data to keep us occupied and dreaming!
Little Rock MINI
“I saw that on the mini uk site. But then I checked the current 0-60 times they have and its 7.2. I believe the US ones are 6.8.”
Mini USA uses the 0-60 by measure the MCS’s performance and UK uses 0-62. The different of the 2MPH could cost the 0.4sec, especially you will need to shift from 2nd to 3rd at 60MPH (stock car).
does the 5 interior light color option come stock in the cooper?