The JCW Countryman Caught Testing

For years now we’ve talked about the JCW Countryman. And for years that talk has been fed by well placed sources and good info. But until now we’ve never even seen the most camouflaged prototype out testing. Until now. Behold, the JCW Countryman.
Thanks to the intrepid spy photographers at the Motor Authority we have our first look at the JCW Countryman. Lowered and clad with the JCW aerokit and 19″ JCW wheels this is the Countryman many of us have been waiting for. Now, let’s take a closer look at what to expect with the JCW Countryman.
Our sources have indicated for awhile that the JCW Countryman will come, from the factory, the way the R56 should have from the start. Because the factory at Magna Steyr has more option capacity, there’s more for MINI to spec the car with. So that means (as seen here) 19″ JCW R129 Double-Spoke wheels, JCW brakes, JCW aerokit and even the JCW suspension. Yes the JCW Countryman appears as if it will be well specced and sorted from the factory.
Then there’s the engine. With around 3,000 lbs to motivate we believe MINI won’t be sticking with just the 208 hp JCW engine. Based on some educational guesses and reading between the lines of what a few sources have said to us, we believe MINI will introduce a newer, higher power 1.6L JCW engine with the Countryman. What will that figure be? We don’t know but we’d guess something north of 215.
So when will this hyper-Countryman be available? With the Coupe being released in the next few months we’re guessing it will either be pushed to late this year or perhaps even early next. Our money is on Geneva and winter of 2012.
56 Comments
<p>I like the 5 star “GP” style wheels</p>
<p>Late winter 2012? Do you mean early 2012 (i.e., towards the end of the 2011/2012 winter season)?</p>
<p>Late winter.. February. </p>
<p>Gotcha, thanks Gabe! When do you expect it would be available for order or, put differently, what do you believe is realistically the earliest one could drive one of these home?</p>
<p>First half of next year. I don’t feel comfortable being any more specific
than that. Sorry!</p>
<p>Totally understand. Thanks a million. This is going to make my car buying/leasing decisions all that more difficult…. (my current lease on a GTI expires in Feb. 2012, and I can’t wait to get back into a MINI, but it has to be the ‘right’ MINI). Oy, oy, oy… Again, thanks! :)</p>
<p>This is looking good!</p>
<p>I’ll wait for the AWD (full time) JCW Coupe with 215 HP. Our Countryman is just fine the way it is as a long distance all day driver.</p>
<p>Don’t hold your breath on that</p>
<p>It sure is a good thing they are going to push the engine a bit harder. 208hp just isn’t enough to get this thing moving. But 7 more HP…. now were talking. I could totally see an engineers pencil behind this.</p>
<p>Good investigating guy’s</p>
<p>Did the bring ///Momsport in to show them how to build a sport crossover lol.</p>
<p>We go from a massively undershot R58 that gained weight and not an ounce of more power/torque to a crossover that comes with a upgraded powerplant and jcw suspension. Mark me as humored and once again unimpressed with MINI.</p>
<p>The countryman factory has a bigger option capacity as stated. We all know the mini factory isnt capable to carry jcw parts in bulk. You have to at least give them credit making at least one jcw model a complete package or else your going to hear more people complaining</p>
<p>Sad to say Tristan that I don’t think this development of the R58 was hindered by production as much as it was hindered by an endemic problem at MINI where at times I get the feeling the moto is “good enough”. Should be funny to know soon the best jcw is going to be a crossover. Guess I should not be surprised though as while I have measure of respect for MINI Management and Engineering I have been less than impressed with a lot that they have done for quite a long while.</p>
<p>unlike.</p>
<p>Yawn…</p>
<p>needs moar low</p>
<p>You spelled more wrong.</p>
<p>intentionally. it’s an innernets thing.</p>
<p>Interwebs</p>
<p>innertubes?</p>
<p>this thing is going to be freakin’ expensive. no doubt.</p>
<p>Gabe: is the coupe also going to have all the JCW options available as factory installed options, i.e., aerokit, suspension, and brakes?</p>
<p>I like the handling-oriented spec MINI is putting together for this car (if only the R56 JCW came correctly specced from a handling point of view!) but would only ask that the AWD version get some JCW love as well in the future. Â </p>
<p>Lookin’ good!</p>
<p>I test drove the current Countryman AWD. Aside from the awfully light and cheap feeling clutch and notchey transmission, (and lower center stack in the interior I didn’t really care for) it felt and rode like a Mini I could be very happy to live with that would replace 3 of my vehicles for solid 12 months of the year driving. I’d consider trading in my ’09 JCW to buy it if it came clad in JCW garb and was any good (implying that clutch and gearbox is altered). I look forward to the call from my saleswoman about it within the next year.</p>
<p>On a different note, The Mini SD came out on top of a recent Top Gear “Diesel Fun Hatch” comparo.Â
<a href="http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/chiconomics-2011?imageNo=0" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/chiconomics-2011?imageNo=0</a></p>
<p>MINI’s own marketing studies have revealed that its cars are overwhelmingly bought by female customers. MINI boss Kay Segler, in an interview with Autocar, pointed out that there is nothing essentially wrong with that saying, “It’s a great problem to have, better a significant amount of female customers than no customers at all”.</p>
<p>MINI, however, is reportedly keen to attract more male customers to the brand, hence the decision to put the new Coupe, JCW Countryman and the ‘Paceman’ R61 into production. Imbued with an added dose of attitude, these new models are said to be part of a concerted effort to attract male customers more than any other existing MINI model.</p>
<p>Maybe for guys that like little more than window dressing (see the R58) lol</p>
<p>We shall have to wait and see about the R58, but here in the UK more male customers appear to be buying the R60 Countryman than female customers, and I suspect that will also be case when the R61 ‘Paceman’ is launched next year. Ultimately, as the old saying goes, ‘You pays your money and you takes your choice’.</p>
<p>You’ve just completely surrendered to troll, haven’t you…Â </p>
<p>I second that.</p>
<p>Lets see here guys, two posts both related to MINI and a common point, versus one post by Lav that is off topic and inflammatory as well, two posts by Hoover that also had nothing to do with the story or MINI. I likely qualify as a troll as I avoid MINI coolaid and don’t buy off on every decision of the brand. Thus I am more often than not inflammatory, think you guys can join me as well for the value of your input lol.</p>
<p>Nick it should be interesting once the Paceman comes into the mix. In my part of the US the split between male to female drivers seems pretty even. The performance fans are likely about 60% male 40% female. Still expect that since many tens of thousands of dollars are spent every year for people upgrading their MINI just saying that I think the R60 jcw is likely the closest to a performance model with MINI. Even Gabe seemed to be lukewarm about the R58 after he came back.</p>
<p>Whether you agree with JonPD or not in his views and comments, you can’t argue against how bizarre it is to have the biggest and heaviest MINI as a “proper” JCW as of now. Having availability to built it at the Magna Steyr factory is simply a poor excuse for not having a proper JCW so far.</p>
<p>With the “expected” upgrades that Gabe mentioned, this will be VERY expensive and anyone who is looking for a performance upgrade in a MINI will be in a bracket with many other options.</p>
<p>Point taken, in regards to the “proper” JCW.</p>
<p>Regarding disagreeing/agreeing with JonPD, in my own opinion, I don’t disagree with him on principal, it’s just that his comments seem to all go in one direction, which can be a bit much over time. To each their own, clearly the man is passionate about the direction of the brand.</p>
<p>The broken record just keeps skipping and playing the same tune over and over.  Sorry. I think I’ve gotten a little fatigued, and clearly I’m not the only one.  I’ll not comment on it again.  You just struck a nerve today.  I do appreciate people who are passionate about the brand. </p>
<p>No worries Hoover, I take nothing personal here and can understand that at times I can strike nerves. Honestly its not my intention.</p>
<p>Believe it or not there is a lot that MINI does great in my view. As an example with this car I think that MINI has finally done something that its performance community has been asking them about for a long while, a more complete jcw. While I would have loved for them to try to focus on their self proclaimed sports car (the Twins) versus the R60. Just saying that the way they are handling the Twins does not feel as special as the way they are handling the R60. Logically it does make sense as a performance R60 will likely outsell a performance R58/R59 as most people cannot get around not having four seats. My hope is that this production is MINI moving jcw back to relevance for the sporting side of the brand (imo). I am not proclaiming the R56 jcw is not a quick car but think most of us can agree that MINI have left it well shoprt where it should have been due to the lack of unique styling and lack of a performance suspension.</p>
<p>Guess to sum it up I keep hoping that jcw will be treated like a in house ///M one of these days.</p>
<p>VW had the same female dominant clientele issue to deal with for the new beetle. It is obvious that VW marketing recognized this as a plus rather than a sales detractor and intentionally incorporated feminine design cues and amenities e.g., bud vase and feminine-appropriate color schemes. The 2012 Beetle is allegedly designed to have “broader” and more masculine appeal. </p>
<p>In the case of MINI, the most effective way to correct the imbalance would be to dramatically underscore the motorsports character of the hatch with distinctive (GP-like) design nuances and incredible performance upgrades. Fundamentally, enthusiasts of both sexes will be drawn to such a package and considerably neutralize the “cutsie” nemeses driving the sales skew. </p>
<p>Is the JCW 60 running circles around the Audi logo or is that just a coincidental photo op?
I’m also seeing some holes in the logic of not enough capacity for JCW options at a certain facility over another. Really, some shipping containers in the employee parking lot would be the US answer. But praise is certainly due for a complete JCW package of any sort coming from MINI. I would guess the frustration inside MINI has also been reduced a little. The media testing will be very interesting.</p>
<p>Is the JCW 60 running circles around the Audi logo or is that just a coincidental photo op?
I’m also seeing some holes in the logic of not enough capacity for JCW options at a certain facility over another. Really, some shipping containers in the employee parking lot would be the US answer. But praise is certainly due for a complete JCW package of any sort coming from MINI. I would guess the frustration inside MINI has also been reduced a little. The media testing will be very interesting.</p>
<p>Unless they put the BMW N20 in it the thing it will still be slow. No N20 no interest</p>
<p>N54!</p>
<p>+1. Â I wonder if, even with a 7 hp bump, the JCW Countryman would realistically be any quicker in a straight line than a bone-stock R56 Cooper S. Â Visually, though, I think it looks fantastic….the design really takes to the aerokit and GP-ish wheels.</p>
<p>If the N20 makes it into this car, I’ll be on the phone to my dealer within minutes.</p>
<p>I don’t see it being able to do 0-60 in less than 6.5 seconds even at 215 hp with the 1.6. I would also place an order tomorrow if it got the N20. its not that far fetched because once the engine is approved for sale in the US they can put it in any model and its already passed all EPA tests. You would definitely have 0-60 in under 6 seconds because they are quoting the Z4 in 5.6-5.8 and the 5 series in about 6 seconds with the N20. The 1.6 will be a yawner.</p>
<p>I don’t see it being able to do 0-60 in less than 6.5 seconds even at 215 hp with the 1.6. I would also place an order tomorrow if it got the N20. its not that far fetched because once the engine is approved for sale in the US they can put it in any model and its already passed all EPA tests. You would definitely have 0-60 in under 6 seconds because they are quoting the Z4 in 5.6-5.8 and the 5 series in about 6 seconds with the N20. The 1.6 will be a yawner.</p>
<p>Why can’t the JCW models set themselves apart by having larger fender flares? Since they are just plastic anyway, how expensive could it be. It would be nice visual upgrade over the lesser models.</p>
<p>Interesting question.</p>
<p>Looks good.</p>
<p>boner</p>
<p>They’ve got my money if and only if:</p>
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<p>=250hp at least and AWD</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Gabe what do you think? Doable? Or am I crazy?</p>
<p>certified nuts!  (I’ll be in the next padded room over)</p>
<p>Truthfully, from a personal perspective, I am not drawn to the vehicle and therefore have no compelling reason to comment. However, from a marketing perspective I think the JCW Countryman will grow a distinctly different audience of devotees than those attracted to the MINI hatch. Over time we (and MINI) will see where customer alliances are strongest and presumably also see appropriate refinement and improved technology. Hopefully this will include diesel power.</p>
<p>2012 Golf R. </p>
<p>Completely pointless. So you’re suggesting a Golf is akin to [i.e. in the same category as] a cute’ute? I’m beginning to understand what triggered the comments before.</p>
<p>Um, yeah. That is what I am suggesting. These cars are very similar. 5-doors, hatchback, AWD, performance-tuned suspension, tweaked turbo 4. Probably within 300lbs of each other. Golf has significantly more cargo capacity and horsepower. The JCW Countryman might have a <em>bit</em> more ground clearance and will no doubt have a lot more MSRP.</p>
<p>Don’t take my silence as implied agreement. :^p</p>
<p>i cant wait to see those 19″ JCW wheels on a R53.</p>