Jack Mosher May 24th, 2009 Link
Well, at least it’s from a reliable source! Interested to see what the real deal looks like…
Sounds like fun across the pond, wishing I could be there!!
ReplyLast week we exposed the interior image seen in Automobile.Fr as a forgery. This week we’re doing the same to the exterior photoshop image. Instead of debating the image for days upon days we thought we’d go straight to the source and ask the always candid Gert Hildebrand (director of all things design at MINI) while at MINI United. His response was straight forward and clearly sincere. The images (interior and exterior) are both fake. A simple answer from the man who would know.
Well, at least it’s from a reliable source! Interested to see what the real deal looks like…
Sounds like fun across the pond, wishing I could be there!!
ReplyI googled Gert and found this video of him talking about the 2008 MINI Cooper D Clubman:
http://www.carlist.com/blog/?p=836
He even mentions Motoringfile.com!
ReplyPerhaps it would be a good idea to double and triple check your “sources” before posting dubious photos of fakes.
Just a suggestion, don’t take it the wrong way.
ReplyActually have to disagree with you on that C4.
Rumors pertaining Mini is a good point of topic at times since it allows Mini to see the reaction to things like this. Also I think that if a majority of other news media didn’t discuss rumors pertaining to many actions of our government we would all be in a much worse place. rumors can sometimes be true or based in truth., even better the discussion about them can bring up credible points of views. imo
Reply@C4: They weren’t our sources. You may need to ready the article again, the images came from the French magazine automobile.dr and had nothing to do with our sources. They were then picked up by most of the online automotive media. Clearly it would have been out of character if we didn’t report that the images were out there. However rather simply post it and be done with it like the rest of the automotive media we leveraged our connections within MINI and went straight to the top to get an answer.
ReplyI think any development, be it real or fake, is a good thing to post. Hopefully even through reactions to these fake posts MINI can take into consideration the reaction of its community to changes considered.
ReplyYes, as well as identify who is likely to fly off the handle irrationally so they can ignore them in the future.
Reply[...] Update – it’s a fake! We’ve uncovered the truth after some further investigation. [...]
This is obviously a 1/24 model of a Mini Cooper that someone fancied up.
Notice how they are absolutely no wheel bolts or studs, or even a cover that would house such items? All we see is a nice black “hole” in the center of each wheel…interesting….
Perhaps the most telling point is the gas cap….it’s exactly the same as the Burago 1/24 die cast model I am holding up in front of me right now which I bought from wal-mart. Unless Mini specifically designed an unopenable gas tank that is fused with the body and has the same color (going against previous generations).
Most importantly, there is absolutely no size reference in any of these pictures. Some person mocked up a small 1/24 model and managed to initially fool so many people :)
ReplySay what you will about the styling, etc…. You’ve got to admit whomever is behind this has got some mad photoshop skills.
ReplySorry, but I’m still not convinced this is a fake!
This MINI designer might be a straight talking kind of guy, but never in a month of sundays would he confirm it’s a genuine image. Sure, he could ‘no comment’ or play dumb, but this wouldn’t do much to quash people’s thought’s that it could actually be the 3rd gen mini (and indeed all of the ‘i hate the 3rd gen’ malarkey that comes along with that).
Of course I’m just hypothesising here, but it just strikes me that asking someone from MINI about this on record would only ever result in one answer being given.
ReplyThis MINI designer might be a straight talking kind of guy, but never in a month of sundays would he confirm it’s a genuine image. Sure, he could ‘no comment’ or play dumb, but this wouldn’t do much to quash people’s thought’s that it could actually be the 3rd gen mini (and indeed all of the ‘i hate the 3rd gen’ malarkey that comes along with that).
This may help. He specifically put it this way… when you see the 3rd generation MINI, you’ll know this isn’t it.
Trust me on this one… this isn’t real.
ReplyGabe said he corresponded with the director of design. If he was not definite in his denial your theory might have some legs.
ReplyThe 3rd gen is still a ways off. Id think itd be more likely to get a peek at the refresh soon than a gen3 mock up. Just sayin’
ReplyBy late 2004, early 2005, we were already been flooded with pics and specs of the then prototype R56. Perhaps MINI will keep the third gen tests mules more under wraps this time around.
Lavardera: I can’t wait for your anti-3rd gen MINI rants. We shall see who is going to fly off the handle first.
Reply[...] UPDATE: Our skepticism has been rewarded as it turns out, according to the company, these are totally bogus. [...]
[...] the image above is a fake we outed last summer, but we believe it illustrates how seriously MINI may be moving the design language with this car. [...]
HTML Formatting Tips
MotoringFile also allows use of Markdown formatting in the comment section. This accomplishes the same formatting as HTML but is typically easy to use.
| _your text_ | → | your text |
| **your text** | → | your text |
| `my code` | → | my code |
| * Bulleted list * Second item | → | • Bulleted list • Second item |
| 1. Numbered list 1. Second item | → | 1. Numbered list 2. Second item |
| [link name](URL) | → | link name |
| *** | → | Horizontal ruler |
| <http://url> <email@add.com> | → | Auto-linked |
|  | → | Image |



