Since interest seems to be growing for this car within some corners of the MINI community, we’re going to bring you a little weekend reading on it. We’ve got four new reviews here and if you were looking for a chink in the armor or someone perhaps talking you out of wanting a 135i, don’t read any of them.
Let’s start with Automobile Magazine:
>Get up from your computer, drive to your nearest BMW dealer, and put down a deposit on a 135i. Now. You won’t regret it. In the years to come, you’ll probably even look on this as the best purchase of your long and distinguished life, a moment that defined your personal idiom, a moment that caused the tide of your existence to turn away from meh and toward Eat Your Heart Out, John Q. Dull, I’m Awesome. In other words, when you drive out of the dealership in your sparkling new 1-series, it will be the Rip Taylor moment of your life, confetti shower and all. This car is that good.
If higher praise has never been written in a car magazine, I’ve never read it. Could it be that BMW has dealt with the weight problem effectively enough to make the 135i a true driver’s car? They’ve certainly done it with much heavier cars over the years.
[ Drive: BMW 135i ] Automobile Magazine
Now let’s take a look at what Popular Mechanics has to say:
>BMW officials told PM that the car, although smaller in every dimension than the 3-Series, is, at 3432 pounds, only about 132 pounds lighter than the 335i. Odd? Not really, because the 135i isn’t a stripped-down. entry-level car. It comes with ABS, traction control, stability control, cornering brake control, electric power rack-and-pinion steering, an electronically controlled locking differential and huge, six-piston, 13.3-in. front brakes and twin-piston, 12.75-in. rear brakes.
>Although no official U.S. pricing is available now, BMW estimates about $35,000 for the 135i and about $30,000 for the 128i when they arrive next spring
So our early pricing guesses seem to be pretty accurate. But let’s back up for a minute. 3432 pounds is a lot of weight to carry around. The official number for the 2007 Cooper S is 2668. That my friends is the 800 pound gorilla right there. Literally.
[ 2008 BMW 135i Test Drive: Slick, Not Stripped Down ] Popular Mechanics
Enough fat jokes though, lets hear what Edmund’s Inside the Line says about the 135i:
>To put it plainly, the 2009 BMW 135i is more than merely good. It raises the standard of measure for small coupes to a whole new level of excellence. It is one of the purest expressions of the BMW character since the 1971 BMW 2002 tii.

>This is not another space-efficient front-wheel-drive hatchback. Instead BMW’s classic configuration of front-mounted engine and rear-wheel drive brings an emphasis on driving to the segment of premium small cars that includes the Volkswagen R32 and Volvo C30.
>The numbers tell the story. The 2009 BMW 135i coupe gets to 100 kph (62 mph) in just 5.3 seconds and the standing kilometer (fast becoming a standard performance benchmark among Europe’s more sporting carmakers) in 24.6 seconds. To give this speed some perspective, the new 2008 BMW M3 is just 0.5 second and 1.3 seconds quicker to the same marks respectively. Even more important, this 135i coupe will rip from 50-75 mph in 4th gear in just 5.0 seconds – just 0.1 second slower than the latest M-car.
Check out the entire review here:
[ First Drive: 2009 BMW 135i ] Edmunds
Finally lets take a look at what industry pundit Paul Tan had to say about the car:
>The only problem with that is the steering doesn’t exactly let you find this line very easily. The biggest disappointment about this car is that it’s not very point-and-shoot. Perhaps if I had spent more than two hours with the car, I’d have figured it out, but whether on the road or on track, in fact, especially on track, the car never seemed to go where you wanted it to.
>On the very wet surface, the DSC kicked in at every corner, inducing us to switch to the more lenient DTC instead. In this mode, while the amount of power churning through the rear wheels often made it easy to tail-out in this weather, under-steering was in fact, the 135i’s most often seen method of at-the-limit cornering that day.
>The car overcooks its 215-section front tyres much sooner than its 245 rears and so starts to point outwards but with some added punch at the throttle, you can definitely move the car completely sideways in the wet. I’d like to just give the BMW engineers the benefit of the doubt here because of what happened next.
>When the car got into a skid, it only required a robust countersteer to regain footing. Nothing precise necessary, just apply some reverse lock and resume your previous heading.
It’s always hard to tell about true track characteristics of a car from an article like this. First off it was wet. Secondly we’re really not sure just how accomplished Mr. Tan is at the track. But it all sounds plausible. The car is set-up to under-steer until a knowledgeable driver gives it a kick in the pants and sends it into over-steer. That’s one benefit of RWD.
You can read the entire article here:
[ BMW 135i Coupe Test Drive Report ] Paultan.org
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[ BMW 135 tii Official Press Release ] MotoringFile
[ BMW 135i Reviews and Why We Still Want One ] MotoringFile
[ BMW 1 Series Coupe: Your Thoughts ] MotoringFile
[ NYT on the MINI vs the 1 Series ] MotoringFile
[ 1 Series Question Gets More Interesting ] MotoringFile
[ EVO’s take on the 1 Series a the US market ] MotoringFile
[ Hatchback Success in the US ] MotoringFile
[ the New BMW 1 Series and what it means for the MINI ] MotoringFile
[ Has the MINI Altered Plans for the 1 Series ] MotoringFile
Very nice car, but it’ll never get me out of my MINI (Can’t get past the weight–0-62 times look great, but I fear what track lap times may look like), but I suspect its going to appeal to a significant number of people. A 335i might get me out of my MINI (although initially there have been some significant issues with oil temperatures–it may be sorted out now) but what I’m waiting for is this, linked in one of the articles:
<a href="http://www.automobilemag.com/new_and_future_cars/0710_2007_bmw_1-series_tii_concept" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.automobilemag.com/new_and_future_cars/0710_2007_bmw_1-series_tii_concept</a>
This is the car I’ve been waiting for. If this car is built according to what was written in the link, this would get me out of my MINI. Tomorrow. It’s the only car I’ve ever seen that I’ve ever said that about. Here’s to hoping it comes to the U.S.
sorry–that link didn’t work–the car I’m talking about is the 2007 BMW 1-series tii; the link is at the bottom of the “Automobile” article.
>sorry–that link didn’t work–the car I’m talking about is the 2007 BMW 1-series tii; the link is at the bottom of the “Automobile” article.
You can also find the same information right here on MF in the link we posted above…. or here:
<a href="https://www.motoringfile.com/2007/10/24/bmw-1-series-tii-concept/" rel="nofollow">BMW 1 Series tii Concept</a>
Anyone else notice the typo in the PM article? The standing Kilmoter (or 5.8 miles) in 24 seconds… Standing start to 1km in 24 seconds, not bad. 5.4 miles in 24 seconds from a standing start? Holy Crap Batman, where do I sign up?
“cover the standing-start kilometer or 5.8-miles in 24 seconds,”
It’s going to be an interesting spring.
A Cooper S Clubman with a few options will be hitting the 128i base price. That car would need heated seats, and after a drive maybe the sport package. Prices very similar.
The weight difference is significant, however we’re speaking of a 2 foot longer, 2 cylinder, almost twice the displacement gain over a MCS.
If the 128i makes me feel like I did when I first drove an R50 in April of 2002…then the plotting will begin. That is a big challenge though. Even the R56 S hasn’t been able to induce the smiles my 04 MC does daily.
Numbers and weight aside, it’s really all about the grin factor! This is the first review I see comparing the 135i to the Cooper S:
<a href="http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2077" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2077</a>
<blockquote>cover the standing-start kilometer or 5.8-miles in 24 seconds</blockquote>
I’m not really sure where you got 5.8 miles, but one km is about .6 miles. So that means it covers slightly over half a mile in 24 seconds.
Following this one closely. While I love the MINI in many ways, its low windshield height impedes forward visibility beyond what’s acceptable to me. (From what I have read and seen the R56 is worse than the earlier model in this regard.) The Bimmer will be much better for this. I don’t want to be looking out a bunker-slit window when I am driving, I want to see sky. Unfortunately too many high performance cars are sacrificing visibility for a “sexy” hunkered-down greenhouse.
If the 135 had another door on the passenger side and AWD I’d get one in a flash.
Too bloated. Light is right:
2002tii – 2225 lbs
135i – 3432 lbs
Went on a tour today of the VDC in Oxnard, California with the LA Chapter of the BMWCCA and SCMM. They had two 1-series models on display for us, a coupe and convertible.
The cars are nice, and the size is just right, but the styling is a little plain. The car definitely needs some of the enhancements shown on the tii concept, but I’m sure it is a great driver’s car. However, My MINI still wins in my book!
Ok Gabe…when are you getting one? We all know you’ll hem and haw about buying one publicly, but my money’s on you caving in in the end! It’s just too tempting (and easier to rationalize to the wife than the MZ4 Coupe) 😉
“BMW estimates about $35,000 for the 135i and about $30,000 for the 128i” They’ll probably hit $40,000 for the 135i and about $35,000 for the 128i in 4-5 years, pricing them out of reach for a lot of folks.
I had an MCS in the US. Moved back to the UK last year and got a BMW 120i because it was on the lot and they were in the middle of the MINI model change. It is a decent car with plenty of poke, but I can’t wait to get rid of it. It has no soul.
I don’t think they’ll price the 135i that high–that’s 3 series territory.
And although I agree that the weight of the 135 is too high, it’s not really fair to compare it to a 2002 tii; a better comparison will be the 2002 tii to the 2010 (or whatever year we see it) tii.
The present 1 series tii will still come in hefty to the 2002, but they can find a way to get the car under 3000 lbs (hopefully even more than this), what you’ve got is IMHO an unbeatable car from the standpoint of affordibility, everyday driving, and track performance.
This car, if done properly, will be an absolute beast on the track, yet still offer a reasonable day to day driving experience. Its what I’ve been waiting for–a smaller, rear wheel drive roughly 300HP, 300ft/lb torque, nicely styled car with great brakes and a performance suspension. I’d like to see lsd on it, but we’ll see.
If the tii come to fruition, about the only other that would seriously tempt me is a 250hp/275 ft/lb torque MINI. I’d love to stick with a MINI from an aesthetics standpoint, but the performance of the tii has the potential to be absolutely insane.
Saw 3 in person this weekend at the VDC here in California. Kinda chubby in person but liked it. The “Boat Line Arch” as they seem to be calling the beltline of the car is kinda interesting. The interior is no big deal, back seat area small.
They also had the cabriolet. with roof half way up.
>I don’t think they’ll price the 135i that high–that’s 3 series territory.
According to people in the know who I’ve talked to, it’ll be right around 30k for the 128i and 35k for the 135i. Meaning that optioning a 135i up the way I want it would cost about 40k.
>Ok Gabe…when are you getting one? We all know you’ll hem and haw about buying one publicly, but my money’s on you caving in in the end! It’s just too tempting (and easier to rationalize to the wife than the MZ4 Coupe) 😉
And that last number I threw out there will slam the door on me getting one. <em>If</em> I wanted a new car (and I really love my MCS so I don’t) it would probably be something with the S54 engine in it – the one in the E46 M3 or the current Z4 M Coupe. While the 135i twin turbo is great, it’s characteristics all about casual power which I really don’t think suit my personality. The S54 engine has stepless VANOS and variable valve timing with a host of other race bred technologies. The sound at full go is worth the money alone.
And back to why I don’t want to sell my <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/bridger/1368518133/in/set-72157600238374207/" rel="nofollow"> JCW MCS</a>. I love it. It continues to amazing me every day as much as it did on the track this summer. It gets great MPG, has more power than I can use 99% of the time and out handles any of my previous MINIs.
And beyond that the next car I personally buy will most likely be to replace my 3 Series wagon. <em>That’s</em> the car that may have some sort of 3.0L twin turbo or even an M badge on it.
Now that doesn’t mean I don’t <em>want</em> a 135i. I’ve been waiting for a small BMW Coupe for more years than I can remember.
So…. who wants to buy me a 135i? I’m keeping the MINI and can’t afford both 😛
BMW should call this the 3 series, the current 3 the 5, and on up the ladder to counter size inflation. Sure, we’d end up with a 9 series luxo-barge, but it would be the fastest way to get a new 8 series!
While there’s a lot to like here. I’m not sold. Like all new BMWs, it needs a diet.
Matt
To AN – yes they make a 5 door Hatchback but the BMW USA doesn’t take this model – why not?
Like the old song goes – “with the goog, goog, gooly eyes”.
Yikes! Its alive!
Any does the 135i only have dual tips on the one side…the 335i has twin dual pipes….I vote for twin duals…..I want to know it is a 135 even if i debadge it.
There is a rumor, supported by sales numbers, that we in the US don’t buy wagons. We buy SUVs or Minivans. So we don’t get lots of the wagons that are sold in Europe.
Now, Newdl, why debadge if you have to have a visual clue as to what the car does? I don’t understand. If you want to know it’s a 135 that you’d debaged, just remember what you took the badges off of!
Personally, I prefer the sleeper look. I like things that perform, not things that look like they perform!
But that’s just me….
Matt
What is it with the US not getting the hatch ?!
I spent the last weeks here in Germany and see lots of the 1 series driving around and the hatch really looks great (IMO).
Plus the one shown on these pictures is for me just to close to a 3 series.
Which brings me to the last nagging point … diesel, anyone? The 120d would really be a nice little car !
btw. just got passed yesterday by a 745 Diesel 🙂
Not for me, but impressive. Did they make any other colors than “burnt orange”?